I mean....yeah....but also the Sandy Hook victims won their lawsuit, and from my understanding he doesn't have a show anymore. He had to give InfoWars over to The Onion.
So, yeah. You haven't heard from him in a while because he has no platform.
Was Alex Jones actually right about anything?
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I mean....yeah....but also the Sandy Hook victims won their lawsuit, and from my understanding he doesn't have a show anymore. He had to give InfoWars over to The Onion.
So, yeah. You haven't heard from him in a while because he has no platform.
I hope he's doing what he did the last time he got taken off air, and just starts wandering the streets screaming about conspiracy theories like the homeless nutjob he was always supposed to be.
Last I was aware, The Onion’s takeover is (frustratingly) still tied up in court
Not anymore! They're launching July 2nd, its all over youtube.
Oh hell yeah :D
Broken clock is right twice a day, but there's a reason we don't use them to tell time 
A side note, analogue clocks are still in schools, lol.
The newer generation might not know how to read them.
Could it be, that they are in school to learn stuff?
On an interesting clock note. Yes, analogue clocks are in school, but at home, kids are surrounded by digital clocks on their screens.
So we are getting kids who can easily reach a digital clock, but are struggling with basics "short hand means hour"
Long hand means hour divided by 5. Cut the kids some slack, analog cocks are confusing. They gotta learn their five times tables before they can consistently read clocks. I remember when I was old enough to understand the concept, but a little bit too young to do multiples of five in My head.
Barely any of them can use a sundial either.
His infamous statement "chemicals in the water that turn the freaking frogs gay" may have been a corruption of the discovery that sewage runoff was feminizing fish because of the estradiol in urine from women on birth control, and other endocrine disrupting chemicals newly found in rivers from human sources.
Also, Atrazine (a pesticide that contaminates water sources) turns the friggin frogs trans.
He was kinda sorta in a way right about the frogs turning gay
Wasn't his thing with the frogs turning gay that the government was putting something in the water turning frogs and people gay? Maybe I don't have a complete understanding of his hypothesis but how was he right about this?
The real thing was that at one point there was so much plastic pollution in certain parts of the environment that some of the endocrine disrupting chemicals in it, like BPA (which mimics estrogen) and certain pthalates, were leaching into to water in large enough concentrations to make noticeable changes in the bodies and sex organs of animals that are extra sensitive to those things, like frogs and other amphibians. Mutations in male frogs where they displayed female traits, etc. It's a big part of the reason that 15 or 20 years ago everyone started switching to metal water bottles, and the plastic ones all advertise that they're BPA-free now. Alex Jones took that and spun it up into some grand conspiracy about the government intentionally putting chemicals in your water to feminize you and make you docile so, I dunno, you won't put up a fight when they come to round you up and put you in FEMA camps or whatever, I guess. At least that's the basic gist as I remember it. I never really paid an enormous amount of attention to Jones, so I might not be 100% on the details.
Yeah, it wasn't secret government chemicals like he thought, but regular old pollutants. I can't recall if it was medication from insufficiently treated sewage, or industrial runoff, or what, but there really was a case of stray chemicals making some wild frogs gay. So he was a little bit right about gay frogs. He just was, as usual, astoundingly wrong about those chemicals being a secret government plot to turn people gay.
Ok that makes sense. Still it sounds like he was regurgitating the findings of a study of frog behavior in polluted environments, and then creating a conspiracy theory around it. How was anything he added correct information on top of the preexisting evidence?
Yeah, but he turned a real problem of hormone mimicking chemicals in the food chain into a meme. Honestly would have been better if he missed that one.
Frogs are fabulous around me.
..........wait. Did you just solve the conspiracy of the umbrella man? It was just a guy who refused to believe the weather reporter in Dallas?
That’s actually the original use of an umbrella funnily enough.
To be fair, a weather man can fuck up all the time.
No he wasn't. He's a fucking shit-stirring asshole who believed for the longest time until the courts had to twist his arm about it to be convinced, that actual children did not die during a shooting massacre. He deserves to have his platform shut down and given to a satire company, he deserves to be drained of all of his financial resources.
And before anyone says "his voice is being silenced! what about his first amendment rights?!". All that his voice and platform has done, is just damage and warp the minds of anyone who so much gave him honest attention. Just so that they too, could be walking mouthpieces for him. I mean that's partially why we're dealing with this war now over misinformation, it is partly because of this prick.
If there's anyone whose voice I wouldn't cry about being silenced forever, its this clown. If Alex Jones has actually proven anything at all, is to how gullible and devoid of intelligence people are to have faithfully followed everything he's said and done while spinning it all like as if he's satire. Too bad this 'satire' was something people actually believed in and still believe in.
No he wasn’t.
Bohemian Grove turned out to be very much a real thing.
You don't need to like or agree with him, but twisting the reality isn't helpful. The question wasn't what you think of him. That's a subjective question. Whether he was right about anything is an objective one.
Nobody here is defending anything he has said or done so I have no clue where that rambling is coming from.
He was right about Bohemian Grove, infact the reason we know what we do about that is because of him sneaking in to film it.
People had snuck into Bohemian Grove for decades before Alex's stunt:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemian_Grove
The "unauthorized entry" section stretches back to 1980.
Alex Jones is a conman.
Jon Ronson and Knowledge Fight are excellent sources on the Alex Jones visit to Bohemian Grove. Ronson was there with Jones.
It's kind of hilarious hearing Jones' story about "sneaking" into Bohemian Grove told from the point of view of the other people who went there with him. It's such a great insight into how absolutely contrived all his content is.
Ronson's story of how easy it was to get in, while Jones was manufacturing a narrative. But hey that was way way pre-AI
That a group of presidents, businessmen and ultra rich people from around the world get together for a secret summer camp in the woods where they worship an owl.
The satanist shit came after he went fully nuts.This was back when he still had working brain cells.
None of that is new. There has been reporting on it for decades before Alex Jones. All he did that is unique is record a video. He then went on to proclaim everything as satanic, kinda like the gay frogs, he gets a small sliver of truth and creates an abscess of bullshit around it.
Most conspiracy theories get very close to the truth until they make a hard right turn into “I made it the fuck up” village.
someone below had it before me
He did go undercover in the 90s or early 2000s (its been awhile) and record part of the Bohemian Grove stuff.
I thought that was pretty cool. Sadly never did anything like that again though.
Sure.
It took somebody else editing and producing, but he definitely had something to say at least once.
This is a clip from an odd movie about death. and life. 25 years ago.
It's an Alex Jones rant. And it's full of beautiful truth.
Surprise!
Alex Jones in Richard Linklater's "Waking Life" (2001)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VERGx6VjIKA
Fun that you ask!
There is a very well done coverage on one of his topics regarding "Gay frogs" made by OkiWiredStories
Link to the short documentary:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i5uSbp0YDhc
Also an interview with the scientist from the documentary
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eUpRIyHp_Po
It was a long time since I saw it but in short:
Alex jones claimed there was chemicals in the water that altered and affected humans to be more gay/lesbian, it even turned the frogs gay.
Turns out there was man working for a pesticide company resesrching the effect it had on amphibius animals, one thing was the gender of frogs.
He found it had negative effect but the compandy would try to stop him when he found this, the docunentary shows how sygenta tried to stop him and the way corruption works on local and higher corporate levels.
I recomend watching as it is so well and gives you a insigt in the way corruption and corporate leverage works.
So i bet Alex Jones was onto somethign here, but in the end Alex Jones are paid by shady companies.
Endocrine disruptors are an important topic in environmental biology. They certainly have effects on wildlife, but Jones clearly didn't understand it very well. There's a pretty good overview on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endocrine_disruptor
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There's a cabal of rich people, some of them potentially pedophiles who are pulling the strings in society... except many of them are his friends and benefactors, and he's been awfully quiet since the Epstein files got partially released...
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