Was Alex Jones actually right about anything?

a day ago by Anonymous_Leaker to c/nostupidquestions

Rentlar 125 points a day ago

There's a cabal of rich people, some of them potentially pedophiles who are pulling the strings in society... except many of them are his friends and benefactors, and he's been awfully quiet since the Epstein files got partially released...

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Lost_My_Mind 35 points a day ago

I mean....yeah....but also the Sandy Hook victims won their lawsuit, and from my understanding he doesn't have a show anymore. He had to give InfoWars over to The Onion.

So, yeah. You haven't heard from him in a while because he has no platform.

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BucketBong 10 points a day ago

I hope he's doing what he did the last time he got taken off air, and just starts wandering the streets screaming about conspiracy theories like the homeless nutjob he was always supposed to be.

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gravitas_deficiency 5 points 21 hours ago

Last I was aware, The Onion’s takeover is (frustratingly) still tied up in court

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SirDankbud 16 points 17 hours ago

Not anymore! They're launching July 2nd, its all over youtube.

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gravitas_deficiency 6 points 17 hours ago

Oh hell yeah :D

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PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S 86 points a day ago

Broken clock is right twice a day, but there's a reason we don't use them to tell time shrug-outta-hecks

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Anonymous_Leaker 12 points a day ago

A side note, analogue clocks are still in schools, lol.

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NotSteve_ 17 points a day ago

I mean, they're used everywhere still and aren't exactly a dated form of timekeeping or anything even if digital clocks are preferred on computers

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Anonymous_Leaker -14 points a day ago

The newer generation might not know how to read them.

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Herr_S_aus_H 19 points a day ago

Could it be, that they are in school to learn stuff?

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neidu3 2 points 16 hours ago

I'm forcing my kids to learn it. Both digital and analog clocks have use cases, but the truth is that analog clocks are simply faster to parse.

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MidsizedSedan 1 point a day ago

On an interesting clock note. Yes, analogue clocks are in school, but at home, kids are surrounded by digital clocks on their screens.

So we are getting kids who can easily reach a digital clock, but are struggling with basics "short hand means hour"

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Grail 1 point 20 hours ago

Long hand means hour divided by 5. Cut the kids some slack, analog cocks are confusing. They gotta learn their five times tables before they can consistently read clocks. I remember when I was old enough to understand the concept, but a little bit too young to do multiples of five in My head.

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harmbugler 1 point 16 hours ago

Barely any of them can use a sundial either.

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Peppycito 2 points a day ago

I've been saying this a lot recently, but a calculator can sometimes be a clock.

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Asidonhopo 44 points a day ago

His infamous statement "chemicals in the water that turn the freaking frogs gay" may have been a corruption of the discovery that sewage runoff was feminizing fish because of the estradiol in urine from women on birth control, and other endocrine disrupting chemicals newly found in rivers from human sources.

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CyberTaco 24 points a day ago

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Grail 9 points 20 hours ago path: 0 24374313 24377680, hotness: undefined, score: 9, children: 0
Shindo66 1 point 2 hours ago

Yeah, I've had some friends in aquaculture and it's a huge deal and has been for a long time. The bleaching of paper causes it too. He just went on a rant and said it all wrong.

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Larry 43 points a day ago

He said he was "kind of retarded" once, so partially true.

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adespoton 25 points a day ago

Yes; I believe he said at one point that there’s a sucker born every minute.

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TheReanuKeeves 25 points a day ago

He was kinda sorta in a way right about the frogs turning gay

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bamboo 7 points a day ago

Wasn't his thing with the frogs turning gay that the government was putting something in the water turning frogs and people gay? Maybe I don't have a complete understanding of his hypothesis but how was he right about this?

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Mostly_Gristle 6 points a day ago

The real thing was that at one point there was so much plastic pollution in certain parts of the environment that some of the endocrine disrupting chemicals in it, like BPA (which mimics estrogen) and certain pthalates, were leaching into to water in large enough concentrations to make noticeable changes in the bodies and sex organs of animals that are extra sensitive to those things, like frogs and other amphibians. Mutations in male frogs where they displayed female traits, etc. It's a big part of the reason that 15 or 20 years ago everyone started switching to metal water bottles, and the plastic ones all advertise that they're BPA-free now. Alex Jones took that and spun it up into some grand conspiracy about the government intentionally putting chemicals in your water to feminize you and make you docile so, I dunno, you won't put up a fight when they come to round you up and put you in FEMA camps or whatever, I guess. At least that's the basic gist as I remember it. I never really paid an enormous amount of attention to Jones, so I might not be 100% on the details.

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EpeeGnome 5 points a day ago

Yeah, it wasn't secret government chemicals like he thought, but regular old pollutants. I can't recall if it was medication from insufficiently treated sewage, or industrial runoff, or what, but there really was a case of stray chemicals making some wild frogs gay. So he was a little bit right about gay frogs. He just was, as usual, astoundingly wrong about those chemicals being a secret government plot to turn people gay.

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bamboo 2 points a day ago

Ok that makes sense. Still it sounds like he was regurgitating the findings of a study of frog behavior in polluted environments, and then creating a conspiracy theory around it. How was anything he added correct information on top of the preexisting evidence?

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EpeeGnome 9 points a day ago

No, nothing he added was correct, he just technically wasn't 100% wrong in what he said on the topic. This is only notable in that he usually is 100% wrong.

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Notyou 5 points a day ago

I was thinking this too.

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HopeOfTheGunblade 4 points a day ago

Yeah, but he turned a real problem of hormone mimicking chemicals in the food chain into a meme. Honestly would have been better if he missed that one.

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Kolanaki 16 points a day ago

He probably got his name right.

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KubrickFR 5 points a day ago

Almost, probably a bit too complicated: Alexander Emerick Jones, source Wikipedia

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SaveTheTuaHawk 16 points 17 hours ago

Frogs are fabulous around me.

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dhork 15 points a day ago

If Alex Jones told me it was sunny out I would bring my umbrella.

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Lost_My_Mind 2 points a day ago

..........wait. Did you just solve the conspiracy of the umbrella man? It was just a guy who refused to believe the weather reporter in Dallas?

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GuerillaGorillas 2 points a day ago

That’s actually the original use of an umbrella funnily enough.

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Anonymous_Leaker -2 points a day ago

To be fair, a weather man can fuck up all the time.

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Nytefyre 15 points a day ago

No he wasn't. He's a fucking shit-stirring asshole who believed for the longest time until the courts had to twist his arm about it to be convinced, that actual children did not die during a shooting massacre. He deserves to have his platform shut down and given to a satire company, he deserves to be drained of all of his financial resources.

And before anyone says "his voice is being silenced! what about his first amendment rights?!". All that his voice and platform has done, is just damage and warp the minds of anyone who so much gave him honest attention. Just so that they too, could be walking mouthpieces for him. I mean that's partially why we're dealing with this war now over misinformation, it is partly because of this prick.

If there's anyone whose voice I wouldn't cry about being silenced forever, its this clown. If Alex Jones has actually proven anything at all, is to how gullible and devoid of intelligence people are to have faithfully followed everything he's said and done while spinning it all like as if he's satire. Too bad this 'satire' was something people actually believed in and still believe in.

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Iconoclast 3 points 18 hours ago

No he wasn’t.

Bohemian Grove turned out to be very much a real thing.

You don't need to like or agree with him, but twisting the reality isn't helpful. The question wasn't what you think of him. That's a subjective question. Whether he was right about anything is an objective one.

Nobody here is defending anything he has said or done so I have no clue where that rambling is coming from.

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BucketBong 12 points a day ago

He was right about Bohemian Grove, infact the reason we know what we do about that is because of him sneaking in to film it.

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loweffortname 10 points a day ago path: 0 24373254 24375463, hotness: undefined, score: 10, children: 0
unemployedclaquer 4 points a day ago

Jon Ronson and Knowledge Fight are excellent sources on the Alex Jones visit to Bohemian Grove. Ronson was there with Jones.

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Mostly_Gristle 5 points a day ago

It's kind of hilarious hearing Jones' story about "sneaking" into Bohemian Grove told from the point of view of the other people who went there with him. It's such a great insight into how absolutely contrived all his content is.

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unemployedclaquer 2 points a day ago

Ronson's story of how easy it was to get in, while Jones was manufacturing a narrative. But hey that was way way pre-AI

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GorGor 4 points a day ago

right about what exactly? that they are satanists? nope.

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BucketBong 4 points a day ago

That a group of presidents, businessmen and ultra rich people from around the world get together for a secret summer camp in the woods where they worship an owl.

The satanist shit came after he went fully nuts.This was back when he still had working brain cells.

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GorGor 2 points 16 hours ago

None of that is new. There has been reporting on it for decades before Alex Jones. All he did that is unique is record a video. He then went on to proclaim everything as satanic, kinda like the gay frogs, he gets a small sliver of truth and creates an abscess of bullshit around it.

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WanderWisley 10 points 19 hours ago

Most conspiracy theories get very close to the truth until they make a hard right turn into “I made it the fuck up” village.

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homes 7 points a day ago

No

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TheReturnOfPEB 4 points a day ago path: 0 24373516, hotness: undefined, score: 4, children: 0
neidu3 4 points 16 hours ago

There was one episode of Knowledge Fight where they hilighted one single prediction that was 100% accurate, but it was all in a sea of his usual BS that is way off. I don't remember what it was, though.

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Hegar 4 points a day ago

People will sit through 10 minutes of ads between 30 seconds of screaming. I didn't think they would but 🤷

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DanceMomsSavedMe 4 points 17 hours ago

He did go undercover in the 90s or early 2000s (its been awhile) and record part of the Bohemian Grove stuff.

I thought that was pretty cool. Sadly never did anything like that again though.

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dbtng 1 point 3 hours ago

Sure.
It took somebody else editing and producing, but he definitely had something to say at least once.
This is a clip from an odd movie about death. and life. 25 years ago.
It's an Alex Jones rant. And it's full of beautiful truth.
Surprise!

Alex Jones in Richard Linklater's "Waking Life" (2001)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VERGx6VjIKA

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Shindo66 0 points 2 hours ago

Well, I mean, 9/11 was an inside job...

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Nickelalloy 0 points 21 hours ago

Fun that you ask!

There is a very well done coverage on one of his topics regarding "Gay frogs" made by OkiWiredStories

Link to the short documentary:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i5uSbp0YDhc

Also an interview with the scientist from the documentary

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eUpRIyHp_Po

It was a long time since I saw it but in short:

Alex jones claimed there was chemicals in the water that altered and affected humans to be more gay/lesbian, it even turned the frogs gay.

Turns out there was man working for a pesticide company resesrching the effect it had on amphibius animals, one thing was the gender of frogs.

He found it had negative effect but the compandy would try to stop him when he found this, the docunentary shows how sygenta tried to stop him and the way corruption works on local and higher corporate levels.

I recomend watching as it is so well and gives you a insigt in the way corruption and corporate leverage works.

So i bet Alex Jones was onto somethign here, but in the end Alex Jones are paid by shady companies.

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Slashme 3 points 18 hours ago

Endocrine disruptors are an important topic in environmental biology. They certainly have effects on wildlife, but Jones clearly didn't understand it very well. There's a pretty good overview on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endocrine_disruptor

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