Poll Names Trump as Worst American in History, Republicans Say He’s Greatest

3 months ago by sanitation to c/politics

Americans are split sharply over where Donald Trump ranks in U.S. history, a new poll shows.
JeeBaiChow 127 points 3 months ago

Cmon guys, dont diminish his personal accomplishments. Hes easily one of the worst humans in history.

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bedwyr 46 points 3 months ago

By character he is the worst perhaps. His lack of ability is his only redeeming quality.

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anomnom 2 points 3 months ago

The question is: top 10, top 5, or top 3?

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JeeBaiChow 10 points 3 months ago

Dunno. Was there ever any record of stalin raping and killing kids, hitler selling fake phones to the nazis or mousellini arresting an olympic athlete for allegedly cutting a 350' swath of liner from a pool? Did saddam ever get caught on tape saying 'grab em by the pussy' in arabic?

I think not!

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wonderingwanderer 1 point 3 months ago

Who was the guy who had John the Baptist decapitated because he made a promise to his own niece while she gave him a lap dance?

I'm not saying that's as bad as trump, but it kinda ranks up there

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TrickDacy 55 points 3 months ago

If you think trump is the greatest American then you probably belong in either prison or a psych ward.

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Cosmonauticus 26 points 3 months ago

Don't forget good old fashioned stupidity

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Buffalox 21 points 3 months ago

We have a saying here in Denmark that roughly translates to: Dumber than allowed by the police.
By that logic they do indeed belong in prison for their stupidity. Except in USA the police is part of the problem too.

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anomnom 14 points 3 months ago

The police here are dumber than allowed by any other police in the world.

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SPRUNTnsfw 5 points 3 months ago

By design.

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SalamiDommie -1 points 3 months ago

Have you seen police in the middle east? India? How police in African countries? North Korea? Columbia? Venezuela?

Want me to keep going? Chinese police are cool until you criticize them or the party

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JailElonMusk 48 points 3 months ago

Imagine being Trump and seeing this.

It'd be so hard for him not to share the only poll where he's beating Obama.

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nosuchanon 45 points 3 months ago

Cult members believe dear leader is the best! More news at 8!

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FoxtrotDeltaTango 4 points 3 months ago

This unfortunately, truth nuke

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minty 43 points 3 months ago

He is america manifest. Many see him as ugly, but many also see him as their man, because he is like them. Plain speaking, insaitable greed, and bigoted

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o0evillusion0o 15 points 3 months ago

Don't forget pedophile. We all know that he and all his supporters are either pedophiles or support pedophilia. As indicated in the TRUMP-EPSTEIN FILES (TM)

Edit: typo

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anon_8675309 10 points 3 months ago

Don’t forget blame-shifters

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sportsjorts 8 points 3 months ago

That living anus can barely put a sentence together.

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jason 3 points 3 months ago

Perpetual victims

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cmbabul 3 points 3 months ago

He’s literally the opposite of Steve Rogers

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luthis 41 points 3 months ago

Ah yes, but you see, I've recently discovered that all Republicans are most likely cunts, so we shouldn't take their opinion too seriously

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Mantzy81 18 points 3 months ago

Cunts are actually useful.

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Frozengyro 13 points 3 months ago

Yes, and I'm quite fond of them

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RampantParanoia2365 4 points 3 months ago

No, they're right cunts. Right cunts are a whole nother thing.

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SalamiDommie -2 points 3 months ago

Explain? I am not opposed to right cunts as there are no wrong cunts in my view. But you might be a Rightphobe.

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SalamiDommie 0 points 3 months ago

I love cunts. Soft. Warm. Slippery. And the best part - they make babies.

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IamtheMorgz 3 points 3 months ago

They're not cunts. They lack the depth and warmth.

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crystalmerchant 34 points 3 months ago

24 hour cable news, and repealing the fairness doctrine, led us directly to this

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turtlesareneat 16 points 3 months ago

Well, and the overarching Southern Strategy that took wild advantage of those two things.

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CharlesDarwin 33 points 3 months ago

Historians will likely rank him as the worst.

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Radical_Socialist_t00t 19 points 3 months ago

Assuming mankind survives the environmental murder

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Rubanski 2 points 3 months ago

A lot of people won't, but that's a sacrifice he's willing to make

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DragonAce 25 points 3 months ago

What the fuck is wrong with these republicans who still think hes the greatest president ever? Are they just purely racism and hatred and see him as their mascot? Are they so stupid and uninformed that they drink the koolaid and believe everything that comes out of Fox News and Trumps mouth? I have never understood what people see in that piece of shit. I have hated since back in the day when he did his stupid ass cameo in Home Alone 2. He has always been a sleazy fucking rat bastard that turns everything he touches to shit. I can't believe that so many people bought the bullshit persona they made up for him on the Apprentice...

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VinegarChunks 15 points 3 months ago

Above all, they enjoy getting people like you angry.

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Snowies 13 points 3 months ago

They’re annoyed that people experience empathy and curiosity.

They don’t.

They just want to be ignorant bigots without challenge or second thought.

They’re tired of living with people who are genuinely BETTER HUMAN BEINGS than them.

It makes them feel weak and stupid and pathetic.

Don’t hide. Be loud. Remind them. Don’t let them get a moment of respite from the crushing weight of ideas that come from people who actually give a shit.

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Leviathan 6 points 3 months ago

What a pathetic existence.

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TehWorld 6 points 3 months ago

That’s pretty spot on.

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pelespirit 5 points 3 months ago

I started it when Jordon Klepper starts to speak. He gives a really good idea of what he things they're thinking and why. He's a great source since he's been interviewing them since the beginning. (37:21) https://youtu.be/oLoXaZoeCoE?t=2241

The rest of it is great too, but this deals with your question directly.

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TheCriticalMember 2 points 3 months ago

For sure. He was a joke long before he ever got into politics. Only now he's not funny anymore. What I can't figure out is whether they genuinely believe he's a good president, or the trolling level has gotten so good that we can't even tell. Makes no material difference, but just thinking about it goves me a headache.

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jtrek 2 points 3 months ago

Humans are social creatures. Facts don't matter. Emotions and social belonging matter. So people who are just immersed in trump-stuff are going to think it's all normal and good, and reject contrary facts from the out group.

This is part of why right wing media is so dangerous. It feeds the in-group solidarity

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guyoverthere123 15 points 3 months ago

I disagree. Those that voted for him are the worst Americans in history.

Voting for a paedophile says more about the voter than it does about the paedophile.

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mrdown 11 points 3 months ago

Trump cultists going to act like typical cultists

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melsaskca 7 points 3 months ago

Benedick Arnold.

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Gammelfisch 7 points 3 months ago

The Government of Putin will continue to support their pedo, felon, rapist and draft dodging sack of shit. However, the Old Guard Democrats allowed this shit to continue and they are just as responsible for the ongoing disaster.

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SalamiDommie 5 points 3 months ago

In other news - Water is wet.

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pingveno 5 points 3 months ago

In 10 to 18 years, I bet Trump gets memory holed by the Republican Party, much like George W. Bush. They will move on, and they will try to pretend that Trump and MAGA had never existed.

The core of MAGA is Trump, and no one has been able to really duplicate it. And Trump is an old man who is already slowing down. There is no succession plan. I think the movement dies with him, maybe with his presidency. And then they pretend they never supported him.

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SethTaylor 4 points 3 months ago

Interesting... I didn't think anyone thought of Albert Einstein as American. I'm aware of what his situation was, but I didn't expect to see him on this list.

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Sam_Bass 4 points 3 months ago

repugs are every bit as rancidly nasty as their "dear leader"

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Faithless 4 points 3 months ago

Your mistake is thinking he is a president.

He’s a failed businessman, pedophile, turned traitor, turned conman, turned fascist dictator.

The US is not a democracy anymore, Americans should stop pretending it is and start thinking about their new lives

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quick_snail 4 points 3 months ago

He's bad, but I'm pretty sure Jackson's genocide murdered more people, no?

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T00l_shed 18 points 3 months ago

Ill be interested to know the headcount from DOGE

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AbidanYre 15 points 3 months ago

Have we all forgotten his handling of COVID?

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T00l_shed 3 points 3 months ago

Nope, not at all

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SalamiDommie -1 points 3 months ago

Nope. Not tolerate g anything like that again.

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quick_snail 2 points 3 months ago

Good point.

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suigenerix 14 points 3 months ago

Historians estimate that Jackson caused the death of 10,000 to 15,000 native Americans.

It's projected that Trump's defunding of USAID will kill around 14 million by 2030. 4.5 million of those will be children under the age of 5 (See Lancet study.) Throw in his health care roll backs, social services withdrawals, suicides from tariffs, etc. and that figure goes a lot higher.

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RampantParanoia2365 11 points 3 months ago

Did you forget about when willfully allowed COVID to spiral into a pandemic, which is probably still killing people? Way way more.

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SalamiDommie -8 points 3 months ago

The respirators killed more people than the Rona. Rona isn't out there killing many people. I am amazed anyone would still be pushing that narrative.

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Railing5132 3 points 3 months ago

This is goddamned bullshit and you're despicable to suggest it. The SHORTAGE of respirators definitely cost lives, particularly as hospitals became overwhelmed. And if you think that was "fake", fuck you. Fuck you straight to hell. Some of us lived it.

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SalamiDommie -4 points 3 months ago

And some of us were in the hospital for over a month wondering if we were going to make it out.

I am only alive because my doctor said to not put me on a resp. So f you too.

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RampantParanoia2365 2 points 3 months ago

I...fucking what? Did you just claim devices that assist breathing killed people?

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SalamiDommie -1 points 3 months ago

No I certainly did not. Taking them off of them and putting them on them at a time they didn't need to did

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bedifferent 1 point 3 months ago

@SalamiDommie @RampantParanoia2365 What in the universe is your source for this?

There's little in my profile but there's less in Salami's. Looks botty to me, folks. Sounds it, too.

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Itdidnttrickledown 3 points 3 months ago

Its easier for them to say that lie than admit they made a mistake voting for him.

Similar to the quote attributed to Mark Twain.

"It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled."

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betanumerus 2 points 3 months ago
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CoolSouthpaw 1 point 3 months ago

If this isn't proof that modern day Republicans are part a cult, I don't know what is. I mean, at the very least, Lincoln (stopped slavery), Teddy (inspiring teddy bears), and Reagan (powering the US economy) were better presidents than Trump (killing people during COVID).

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tacoplease 1 point 3 months ago

Republicans also don't properly wash their asses cause touching themselves there is gay.

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VirtuePacket 1 point 3 months ago

He's competing with Buchanan for worst president ever. That even being a conversation should be embarrassing.

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AngryCommieKender 11 points 3 months ago

Buchanan barely makes the top 10 worst list. Jackson and Wilson did far more damage to the country directly. Heck most of Buchanan's presidency was just cleaning up the infighting of Jackson's cabinet. Top 5 worst? Three way tie between Jackson, Wilson, and Trump for first. Polk and either Nixon or Reagan round out the top 5.

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RampantParanoia2365 4 points 3 months ago

Trump has killed far more than Jackson. Don't forget COVID is literally his fault for removing early prevention people, trashing protocol, and then ignoring it for as long as possible.

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AngryCommieKender 1 point 3 months ago

True, but Jackson also paid off the national debt, causing the longest and deepest (by percentage of the economy, not by sheer dollar value) depression in the entire history of the country. I'm not limiting damage to just fatalities/casualties.

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CharlesDarwin 2 points 3 months ago

Ronnie Raygun has to rank in the top 5 for sure. Most criminal administration in history (objectively) up until that point.

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AngryCommieKender 1 point 3 months ago

Nixon and Raygun are tied for me. Nixon was pretty damn criminal as well.

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HrabiaVulpes 1 point 3 months ago

Shouldn't he be like "average american" considering he represents americans internationally?

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Valthorn -13 points 3 months ago

Either way, he is the most american American in history. He is the essence of your wretched country. You may strive to be something better, but this is who you are.

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WhoIzDisIz 22 points 3 months ago

Not really any different than so many other countries taken over by bullies. Humans suck everywhere - it's just a matter of when in history (or future history) you chose to look that you catch some being worse than others at that moment. Jump to another time, and the game of musical chairs will have the bullies sitting somewhere else, but still doing the same shit.

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TrickDacy 16 points 3 months ago

Thanks for the pointless generalized hatred. Really helps us get better, being hated by assholes on the Internet.

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whoisearth 10 points 3 months ago

Please note this is not directed at you personally as I'm sure you are a good person on an individual level.

Speaking as a Canadian I, and many of us, are absolutely fed up of your bullshit because regardless of if you personally voted for that shithead and every other shithead around him like Lutnick or Hoefstra this is who the country wants representing them.

This is also not new behaviour. We have known for decades we are attached to a big brother we love dearly but also happens to run a meth lab in their house and beats their wife.

You need help. Honest to God you need help. Yet all your country can do is punch down and wail about the rest of the world not bending over when you tell it to.

We tried helping you get better. We continue to try because we love you. But Jesus Christ get your shit together.

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bunkyprewster 4 points 3 months ago

Thank you for still caring

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whoisearth 1 point 3 months ago

How could we not care? You're our brother after all. But it hurts a lot so much that yes we are making distance now. Not because we stopped caring, but it hurts us as well.

Regardless of what people think about Carney or Pollievre the numbers show average Canadians are not going to America anymore and average Canadians want to distance ourselves from America.

Americans writ large are not aware of the generational damage being wrecked on their nation. This will take decades if not centuries to heal at best and may never return to what it once was.

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TrickDacy 1 point 3 months ago

You cannot both generalize all of this and also not direct it at members of the group. America is fucked, and telling the people most aware and most upset by it that they're fucked isn't helping. Oh you didn't direct it at me? Do you want me to force magats to read this comment? I'll never understand the point in this kind of conversation. The effect is literally nothing but rubbing it in while being self righteous.

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SalamiDommie -2 points 3 months ago

Where isn't fucked?

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SalamiDommie -4 points 3 months ago

I used to see value in Canadian Moralism. Now I just see it self righteous high horsing. Their claim to political fame, Pierre Trudeau, has had every remaining thread of dignity shredded by his son.

Canadians have decided it is sufficient to make their single standpoint "well at least we're not Americans". And submitted themselves to being easily manipulated media puppets who no longer know their "big brother" because they believe everything their manipulative parents tell about him.

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theherk 8 points 3 months ago

It really sucks because there are some core ideas that are really nice, completely overshadowed by the country’s terrible behavior. The things we were led to believe about ourselves in school would make for a genuinely good society. The secularism, multiculturalism, access to opportunity, many freedoms beyond reproach, etc. Our leaders have for centuries now talked about these and still mostly failed to deliver.

Well that’s on all of us, but given the outsized influence of the rich, I’m happy to shirk much of our responsibility onto them.

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TrickDacy 7 points 3 months ago

I’m happy to shirk much of our responsibility onto them.

I don't think you had a choice in the matter of oligarchs already having a million times more power than we could ever dream of having.

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SalamiDommie -2 points 3 months ago

That is how they become oligarchs.

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TrickDacy 1 point 3 months ago

We just all need to stop thinking money has value or something.

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SalamiDommie -2 points 3 months ago

Failed to deliver? As opposed to whom else?

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bedwyr 3 points 3 months ago

Ha, you are going to fall too. You aren't special, this is a worldwide fascist coup.

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WhoIzDisIz 6 points 3 months ago

Never said differently. Like you said, we aren't any more special than anybody else.

There is a chance we'll make it through this better than we were, however. Progressives have been on a roll since Mamdani won NYC mayor late last year. Hopefully that continues until there are enough in place to displace the establishment politicians and make REAL changes that work for everybody.

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bedwyr -3 points 3 months ago

I like your enthusiasm. But without white populists we are doomed to fail.

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BarneyPiccolo 3 points 3 months ago

Progressive white populists like Graham Platner are emerging.

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lithiumground -15 points 3 months ago

Good to see a great president like Trump in USA!

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lithiumground -17 points 3 months ago

Good to see have a good president in USA like Trump. Thank you president ! 👌😅

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UndercoverNormie -37 points 3 months ago

I voted for the slob 3 times. He officially crossed the line this time. About 40 times. Fuck this guy, man. So much for "no more wars"... and quite literally every single other thing he promised. I'm used to that with presidents, but dang, man. He REALLY fumbled every ball, and he's having them launched at him.

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paranoia 21 points 3 months ago

How were you this stupid? Have you only recently learned to read?

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YeahToast 9 points 3 months ago

Well, I think it's normally worth welcoming someone who has changed their view, not calling them stupid.

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paranoia 15 points 3 months ago

Why has he changed his view? Is it because he doesn't like the policy or character of the man, or is it because fuel prices went up?

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UndercoverNormie -13 points 3 months ago

And he's also making ridiculous assumptions. The fact I already stated one reason why my opinion changed and he didn't even read it is telling. You're a dick, dude. How is your personality any better than Trump's? Lmao

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UndercoverNormie -24 points 3 months ago

They're downvoting you now, too. See, this is the problem. You just can't win with 'em.

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PhoenixDog 11 points 3 months ago

You voted for Trump. Three times.

We're not looking for apologies. It's way too late for that. We're all in this shit stain world because of you.

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jabeez 5 points 3 months ago

You've helped cause untold harm and even death to millions of people by voting, three times you admit, for a clearly fascist conman pedophile. You now say, well whoops I guess, and expect "them" to welcome you with open arms? Nah, fuck every single last one of you fascist fucks, going to take some serious accountability measures before any of you are welcomed back into the what little remains of the civil society you helped torch.

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UndercoverNormie -26 points 3 months ago

Because I wanted serious change. And to a point, I got it. Unfortunately, we became Israel's warmongering lapdog and either got promises 25% fulfilled, or forgotten about entirely. Why are you insulting me?

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paranoia 21 points 3 months ago

I just don't understand how any person could vote for him more than once. It wasn't a secret that he is totally incompetent, spiteful and extremely stupid after just a couple days of him being in charge the first time. His first term was a clown show where he continuously fired his staff. If you somehow think he's going too far only now, then frankly it says a lot about you and your lack of sense, empathy and political literacy.

His values have constantly shown that he is sexist, racist, greedy, slovenly and generally hateful. If you have voted for him three times, frankly, you probably are those things as well.

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SalamiDommie -7 points 3 months ago

I kind of wish I would have voted for him once. I've had 3 chances...

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UndercoverNormie -26 points 3 months ago

Because I am not a Democrat, nor a leftist in any way. I do not stand for their ridiculous shit the same way I do not stand for what Trump is now doing. Believe it or not, people can have different views from you. The fact you don't understand that says a lot more about your intelligence than my own. Relax, bud.

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DisasterTransport 18 points 3 months ago
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SalamiDommie -10 points 3 months ago

Well thankfully we have you here to be the moral one amongst us. With a little bit of luck we might be so fortunate to grow up and be just like you.

Thank you for gracing us with your presence.

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UndercoverNormie -20 points 3 months ago

I'm sure glad I'm not rabid and angry like you guys are. Jesus Christ. Maybe this site was a mistake.

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100_kg_90_de_belin 16 points 3 months ago

Trump's political platform being that of a racist, rapist, homophobic uncle from the 1950s was fine, though

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SalamiDommie -9 points 3 months ago

His political platform is more that of a late 80s early 90s Dem. Far less the ist-phobe German National Socialist you claim.

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FistingEnthusiast 15 points 3 months ago

Fuck you for being a part of this shitty problem

Don't breed.

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PlaidBaron 11 points 3 months ago

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PhoenixDog 10 points 3 months ago

Fuck you. The world is a worse place because of fucking morons like you.

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Gammelfisch 5 points 3 months ago

Zero sympathy, you voted for the massive shitshow.

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T00l_shed 4 points 3 months ago

He's been fumbling balls since before he was elected in 2016, what made you think he would be a good potus? Why was his string of failures in 2016 not enough for you to not vote for him 2 more times?

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PlaidBaron 4 points 3 months ago

Man admits he voted for Trump three times on a platform filled with left-leaning views and then is surpised he gets taken for task.

If this isnt a troll, boy you walked into this one. Then again, you fell for a conman three times in a row.

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mcv 2 points 3 months ago

Can you explain what made you vote for him 3 times? Because that's something I honestly don't understand.

The first time I can understand. It was already known how corrupt he was, but most of the media ignored it and I can understand how you didn't know. But surely after his first term, it must have been pretty clear what a terrible person he was? How corrupt he was?

Many members of his own cabinet, people who believed and supported him, spoke out against him. Mattis, McMaster, Tillerson, Pence, Bolton, Kelly and tons of others pointed out his incompetence, his corruption and his extremism.

I can forgive voting for him once, because you didn't know. But 3 times!? How does that happen?

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islandcoda42 1 point 3 months ago
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PhoenixDog 1 point 3 months ago
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Faithless 0 points 3 months ago

Geest that you have seen the light.

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SalamiDommie -3 points 3 months ago

I have had this thought the last few years. I have had 3 chances to vote for Trump. What would it have been like to vote for him once? I mean,once would have had to have felt good right?

But I've missed my chances. Wonder who we will get to vote for next

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