The faster you burn them the sooner you knock off for the day.
eager_eagle 25 points 3 months ago
the faster you burn them the sooner you burnout
WhoIzDisIz 16 points 3 months ago
"knock off for the day?" Not until you've trained your replacement (LLM)! Then you can take all the time you like, income-free
fuckwit_mcbumcrumble 4 points 3 months ago
They don’t even have to do that. Just don’t pack them in like sardines.
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homes 103 points 3 months ago
in this one picture, I see generations of so many individual great ideas coalescing into one fantastically bad idea (and stupidly comical consequence) that is so... bizarre that I can both simultaneously understand why nobody really saw it coming, and am in low-key disbelief that this is even real...
SparroHawc 30 points 3 months ago
I mean, that's a steno mask, and anyone who's had issues with hand pain but wants to communicate via text has probably wished for something resembling this. The problem is that they're obnoxiously expensive. (And they look ridiculous, but that's its own issue.)
When I'm in public, I wish people had these. I neither need nor want to listen to your phone conversations.
Axolotl_cpp 2 points 3 months ago
Their price is so dumb, that thing shouldn't cost that much
Just like those accessibility tools that let you use control the mouse pointer using only your mouth etc etc, they have stupid prices when some aren't even that complex
SparroHawc 1 point 3 months ago
They're a niche product that has a very solid use case (court transcripts). They require far less training than a stenotype, but because they're so niche, the people who do make them can more-or-less charge what they want. If we're being less skeptical, the low demand means the manufacturers can't take advantage of the efficiencies of scale, so the price remains high.
lIlIlIlIlIlIl 7 points 3 months ago
of course it’s not, because every laptop and airpod has noise cancelling input isolation
But as far as rage bait goes, top tier
lIlIlIlIlIlIl 5 points 3 months ago
Thanks, edited for meaning
SaharaMaleikuhm 94 points 3 months ago
I just cannot tell if this is satire or not
Jankatarch 82 points 3 months ago
Techbros will have workers do anything but work from home.
BuboScandiacus 30 points 3 months ago
Or have single-person offices instead of an open space
ShaggySnacks 3 points 3 months ago
You will love the Open Space Farm.
draco_aeneus 7 points 3 months ago
Speaking is faster than typing, I guess?
VinegarChunks 4 points 3 months ago
Older people such as myself tend to hate voice-to-text I think because it was so awful in the past. And if you screwed up with it in the past it was a less understandable excuse that “I was using voice-to-text.” And because we were all forced in some way to learn to type well.
Voice to text works a little bit better now. And I think younger people know everyone else uses it and to forgive when it screws up.
edible_funk 1 point 3 months ago
It worked better five years ago before they replaced the existing algorithms with AI bullshit. Keeps adding slurs to my dictionary too since they replaced keyboard prediction with modern AI and so many people use slurs Google just assumes I do too.
AppleMango 3 points 3 months ago
apparently audio and images are more efficient compared to text for multimodal models?
chatokun 30 points 3 months ago
I'm going to need significant levels of convincing. Computers have always preferred specificity and accuracy, it's half the reason I'm in my current position (MSP Escalations/level 3, half of my success at fixing issues is being extremely specific in looking up exact error messages instead of paraphrasing).
This isn't a defense of AI; on the contrary, it's my doubt that AI can read intentions/inflection/emotion better than just writing out what you actually want.
qaz 8 points 3 months ago
Deepseek recently published a paper in which they describe that vision tokens contain more information than text tokens and that this can be used to compress context.
We present DeepSeek-OCR as an initial investigation into the feasibility of compressing long contexts via optical 2D mapping.
Experiments show that when the number of text tokens is within 10 times that of vision tokens (i.e., a compression ratio < 10×), the model can achieve decoding (OCR) precision of 97%. Even at a compression ratio of 20×, the OCR accuracy still remains at about 60%. This shows considerable promise for research areas such as historical long-context compression and memory forgetting mechanisms in LLMs.
It reminds me of LLM caveman speak, it used to have another option to use Chinese instead of English. A language like Chinese is seemingly better at encoding information in fewer tokens and I think this is the same mechanism why OCR tokens work so well.
That said, I also doubt that voice messages are more efficient than text prompts, but it's best not to waste too much time engaging with these sorts of LinkedIn posts (and LinkedIn in general).
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VibeSurgeon 7 points 3 months ago
As far as I know, these workflows typically involve a transcription model to convert the audio to text, and then passing the text to the model.
ilinamorato 51 points 3 months ago
I would rather do almost anything than talk to a device, except in very specific circumstances.
I set timers and play music on a smart speaker somewhat often.
Occasionally, when I am alone, know exactly what I want to say, and my hands are full, I might dictate a text message.
But other than that, I will not be talking to my device, thanks. The human voice is primarily for talking to other humans, with all the imprecision and uncertainty and emotional resonance that entails. Keyboards are great tools designed for precise computer input, and I would like to continue to use them.
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saltnotsugar 8 points 3 months ago
Alexa, play Spankfest 8.
NullPointerException 40 points 3 months ago
Or, listen me out, they could work from home.
snooggums 12 points 3 months ago
Yeah, I have colleagues who choose to work in the office when work from home is available because they like the separation of work from home, don't have a good spot to work from home, are aware they would be distracted at home, prefer to see other people in person, and a bunch of other reasons. At least they get a choice!
jtrek 11 points 3 months ago
Every day I'm a little surprised there's no news story of some workers beating their "no, you have to come into the office" manager to death. They've got means, motive, and opportunity, and it's extra funny because if they'd been allowed to work at home they wouldn't have at least two of those.
But really we're ruled by the worst of us. Cowards and fools.
Maybe unionizing is safer than hitting the decision makers with an office chair while screaming "you made this possible" until they can't even cry anymore.
FishFace 3 points 3 months ago
Well what I'm trying to tell you is that there are probably more people than you realise who want to be in the office. My partner, and a bunch of my coworkers, hated being forced to work from home during the pandemic. So maybe that's part of the reason.
RedFrank24 36 points 3 months ago
Hook it up to a bong and you've suddenly made work a hell of a lot more interesting.
topherclay 16 points 3 months ago
I was gonna fill mine with oatmeal and chow down, but I think there's some good work we can do putting both our minds together on this one.
FuglyDuck 33 points 3 months ago
Well the mask is a steno mask
Theoretically most people will speak faster than they type. You have to type around 180-200 wpm to be faster than speaking.
(I say theoretically, because usually typing speed ratings also ding you for errors, and uh, speech transcription isn’t really there, either.)
purplemonkeymad 27 points 3 months ago
The hard part of both speech and typing is thinking about what you say. Typing nor speaking are going to change the speed I can get information into the computer.
corsicanguppy 5 points 3 months ago
most people will speak faster than they type
...words.
But this isn't words: it's coding.
I'm faster hitting a key than I am dictating it -- there are more speakos than typos because my accent doesn't match a Bay Area accent and gets misparsed.
fizzle 1 point 3 months ago
I'm not really into it but one of the guys on late night linux podcast, generally resistant to LLMs and shiny new things, is a fan of speech to text for general computing, as in every input field in the OS should support speech. In a recent episode he said that he believes it to be the way of the future.
FuglyDuck 3 points 3 months ago
I remember Dragon SpeechDragon Naturally Speaking saying the same thing in the 90's. It's improved, but not enough to make it useful as more than an aide for people who can't type. I do agree, that for simple accessibility, it should be integrated into every field, but I doubt it's ever going to take over.
As others have noted, that it's only technically true that dictation is faster than typing. In a practical sense, there's a fair number of reasons why that's not the case, including that usually thinking about the entry is what's the slowest, and also the errors in both are typically what slows people down.
there's also the problem of, for example, keeping entries confidential. You don't want to speak your passwords where others can hear you.
Rai 3 points 3 months ago
I remember Dragon! And ViaVoice! I saw a presentation for ViaVoice in the late 90s and it blew my tiny mind.
It really was the future. And it’s… a bit better since then. Oh god thats like 30 years ago almost
fizzle 1 point 3 months ago
It’s improved, but not enough to make it useful as more than an aide for people who can’t type.
I don't think this is true.
There's a locally hostable model called whisper that is very impressive.
My plumber uses speech to text to send text messages all day.
Late Night Linux guy says he uses it for microsoft teams quite a bit.
You're only partially correct about input speed. If you want to dictate an email then yes you need to think about each word you want to say and the order in which to say them. Coupled with an LLM that problem is diminished because you can just kind of have a conversation with the LLM and tell it to draft an email.
Contramuffin 11 points 3 months ago
Sewing/designing clothes really clicked for me. Haven't tried woodworking, but I imagine it scratches the same itch and utilizes similar skills: 90% of sewing is just planning, calculation, and measuring. Then, watch everything just fit together into place
unemployedclaquer 4 points 3 months ago
Never hesitate to rescue wooden pallets, but don't waste gas on retrieving them either. You can use an iron railroad tie as a chisel for dismantling them
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mrgoosmoos 3 points 3 months ago
how does a headset isolate their voice
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mrgoosmoos 1 point 3 months ago
I'm not talking about the people on the other end of the call, I'm talking about the jackass eight feet away dictating things to his imaginary friend while I'm trying to have a conversation with somebody
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starshipwinepineapple 1 point 3 months ago
I imagine it's like the Active Noise Canceling (ANC) mode of headphones which will monitor background noise and then calculate the inverse sound wave and play that sound to you which in effect mostly cancels out the background noise (works better for certain frequencies than others). For a microphone they could do the same but instead of playing you the inverse sound, they could play it through the microphone for whomever is listening.
VibeSurgeon 18 points 3 months ago
Back in the day there used to be specialized equipment for this purpose called an office, of which you had your own and could close the door to
philipp_ 7 points 3 months ago
I've seen those things 10 years ago when somebody was helping a deaf student in university. Used one of those things to talk to a text to speech engine during the lecture. Seemed to work quite well.
IzzyScissor 1 point 3 months ago
I've also seen them on court stenographers and thought they looked cool. Not everyone needs every invention, though.
MonkeMischief 18 points 3 months ago
How about we just get to the logical conclusion:
✨ Techbro Land ✨
Hook them up to a simulation, yes, like The Matrix! In this simulation they get to do everything they dream of.
Crypto shitcoins as far as the eye can see. Their stonks all go to the moon. Everybody is prompting Ai any time their neurons accidentally bump together. The simulation will accurately simulate an entire earth population just prompting AI and glued to their phones. Look! More profits! Wow.
Ai gambling! Ai sports! Ai art! Ai dating! Ai social media! Ai business! Ai porn! It's all here in ✨ Techbro Land ✨.
We can even accurately simulate mass misery of the general population so our little tenants feel superior! Meanwhile, the Techbro doesn't need to sleep. They believe they unlocked the code to Immortality by micro dosing various hallucinogens and stimulants, allowing them to spend 100% of their day in a chair reviewing an Ai agent's reviewing of vibe code!
There are no "regulations" or even governments in ✨ Techbro Land ✨ . There's a single AI Simulated Singularity (A.S.S) TechBroKing Fascist that makes all the memes, and punishes all the poor working consumption class. Every living situation is AirBnB. All the cars are self driving 24 ton pickups. Trains only exist to ship drones and supplies for infinite data centers and government contracts.
Computing is subscription only, games are rented by the minute, nobody owns anything.
Profits go up and up and up and up and up without end. No climate change, despite the global temperature going up 12⁰C, wars are fought daily with killer robots...I could go on.
The important thing is: These little hoodie-clad megalomanics can't even tell they're actually just locked safely away from the rest of us in stasis in a former mega data center.
...The rest of us, in the real world, take the best of our computing standards with us, and dial all the bullshit back to like 2004 and try this shit again.
beliquititious 18 points 3 months ago
This is such a Kafkaesque cyberpunk dystopian problem. This is needed because owners and managers want open offices for surveillance and coat cutting. They are also aware that only about half of workers thrive in those environments while the other have drops in productivity. Solution a cheap muzzle so that the workers who aren't as productive in noisy environments aren't disturbed.
Meanwhile could you imagine the smell of those things. You'd have to wash them everyday or have some kind of cover for them not to just have a permanent funk.
BrickEater 2 points 3 months ago
Lol you think stocks will be worth shit in 20 years? This fish is going belly up and the AI IPOs are about to steal all of our retirememt funds (if you even had any).
Anyone 30 and younger knows this shit is temporary at best and collapse is within our life times.
1984 1 point 3 months ago
Anyone 30 or younger has their entire brain filled with social media programming and fear. :)
The entire idea is to make you scared of saving, you dummy. I mean that in a funny way. You should never make decisions based on what social media is telling you. Social media is programming, gossip, big headlines... Building on news. Who owns the news? Billionaries. Who owns the platforms? Billionaries.
captain_aggravated 16 points 3 months ago
Dookieman12 15 points 3 months ago
Company-issued slop muzzles
laurelraven 14 points 3 months ago
If only there was some sort of device that would allow you to input those commands without interfering with others, or vice versa... But it's probably just a dream...
JetpackJackson 2 points 3 months ago
Source?
ChanchoManco 4 points 3 months ago
It's Do the evolution by Pearl Jam
JetpackJackson 1 point 3 months ago
Thanks!
JackbyDev 12 points 3 months ago
I love the implication that he's speaking to the AI and wants to not disturb people, but has no headphones on. so I can only assume it's responding from the speakers.
note
Yes, I know it could be responding over text instead of voice.
Michal 1 point 3 months ago
Because it's faster to speak than type, but reading is more practical than listening, especially if taking information is your main focus.
It's scannable, easier to read and reread selectively important parts, and listening to code is not useful.
Avicenna 11 points 3 months ago
Lets assume AI can produce production ready code without any problems (this is what these CEOs likely believe anyway). Something that can produce thousands of lines of code per minute is not enough for these greedy fucks that now they want prompts given by speaking so that things move even faster?
voytrekk 4 points 3 months ago
Its not even about the speed. Typing allows me to properly get my thoughts out. If something sounds incorrect or confusing, I can always go back and change it before sending. You can't unsay words as easily.
embed_me 7 points 3 months ago
Just be like me and assume it's a shitpost until proven otherwise. If it's real then he's probably testing a specialised equipment
WesternInfidels 10 points 3 months ago
The C-suite people got rich by (to be a little reductionist about it) telling other people what to do, and they can't imagine that everyone else wouldn't leap at the chance to do the same.
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SnoopSqueak 13 points 3 months ago
"Ah, dang it, I showed up late and they're out of masks. I guess that means I'll have to use the voice-cancelling ball gag again..."
absentbird 8 points 3 months ago
Fuck AI, but if this was something those loud public phone people could wear that would be great. Like the dude shouting into his phone on the bus, pair it with some headphones leave us in peace
hakunawazo 8 points 3 months ago
Developer to LLM: I am your father!
FishFace 2 points 3 months ago
A water key* is needed in wind instruments because they have long tubing that is likely to be cold enough to condense water out of breath and which hence gets trapped inside it. Not applicable here.
VinegarChunks 6 points 3 months ago
I got subpoenaed once and the stenographer used one of these.
SomeRandomNoob 6 points 3 months ago
chat, is this real?
HCSOThrowaway 6 points 3 months ago
Before I read the text I thought this was a photo of a stenographer; they used those or similar in depositions I've given.
Patrikvo 4 points 3 months ago
Every husband here is sad for all those years he didn't knew these existed. Mothers and teachers wonder if these are available in kid-sizes. Kids wonder what glue works on both this device and the teachers skin.
ZILtoid1991 6 points 3 months ago
Next up: Humans are hardwiring themselves to the computers, with only the brain and a few select "most important" organs remaining of them.
Melvin_Ferd 5 points 3 months ago
This is fox news levels of propaganda but on the left
masterbaexunn 17 points 3 months ago
I missed the political point to the post
Melvin_Ferd 2 points 3 months ago
As bad as AI is. It is still a new technology and it's an arms race right now. Lemmy is influenced heavily by Chinese bots. Lemmy is also small but not small enough to be ignored. It leans left and towards tech users. If you go back to see the early posts for AI, you'll see a ton of astro turfing. Again, AI has issues. But if you follow right wing media you can see the markers of propaganda and astro turfing because the always need to churn new ideas. For example MAID was new in Canada. The right needed to get everybody on board. So early on you could see a big push in regards to content that isn't organic.
It was the same here on the left with AI. The difference here is that it isn't from the right. American right want to embrace this and build data centers. I suspect that China is behind it and wants to create chaff on the left to prevent us from actually building and innovating with AI. At the same time it's also a tool that can rapidly parse text, semantic analysis, opsec and investigations. Which can help create tools to help detect more astroturfing and bots online which powers that be really do not want the left to do. So they really produced so much content to push us all against it. To the point if anyone even smells AI you all instantly swarm. That's manufactured in the same way the right respond to opinions they're given. If you told someone on the right that their opinions on abortion or guns or patriotism is heavily influenced by special interest, what would they say? Would the agree or tell you it's not politics it's common sense
masterbaexunn 1 point 3 months ago
You got all that from this meme? U.s.a. is, as the kids over there say, cooked
ILikeBoobies -1 points 3 months ago
AI bad.
MrScottyTay 5 points 3 months ago
Is that a political stance now?
ILikeBoobies 3 points 3 months ago
Everything is politics.
BrickEater 2 points 3 months ago
Yes, AI is bad. Astute observation.
DarrinBrunner 5 points 3 months ago
People all over the world make good livings at jobs you've never heard of, or imagined existed. Jobs that will not be done by machines anytime soon.
ski11erboi 5 points 3 months ago
Maybe not though. If the biggest companies in the US are discovering AI is more expensive than paying US based employees, AI is certainly more expensive than paying employees in most other parts of the world too.
raman_klogius 4 points 3 months ago
Instead of the tech of RecDep of 1984, we get the SlopShop.
anticonnor 4 points 3 months ago
I forget where I read it, but apparently this is being pushed to replace or augment court stenography. Apparently, there is more demand for court recorders than stenographers to fulfill (not sure if this is true, but that’s the claim), so this option is being proposed as the AI dictation requires less training than stenography.
frustrated_phagocytosis 4 points 3 months ago
So they know their products would be useless in a noisy environment? They can't pick out the voice they need like an actual human being can in a crowd (excluding some with hearing difficulties)?
Asidonhopo 4 points 3 months ago
This is how you get Guild Navigators, you dont want that do you?
EtnaAtsume 3 points 3 months ago
Well, we've always known that the internet is a series of tubes.
ramenshaman 2 points 3 months ago
Holy shit they're real
NightTitan 2 points 3 months ago
I think stenographers in courts are already using them.
TheReturnOfPEB 2 points 3 months ago
would be the funniest gas chambers yet
Earthman_Jim 1 point 3 months ago
Fucking idiotic.
BrickEater -2 points 3 months ago
Look at the fucking whackjob nerds. Dweebs. We need to bully the AI users into extinction. Dont fuck anyone that uses AI willingly.
douglasg14b 3 points 3 months ago
Name-calling like children do isn't going to meme this better.
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