At least they don’t make hidden blocklists to shadownban dissenting opinions. They just dunk on you publicly.
WhyIHateTheInternet 20 points a day ago
You have been banned from Lemmy.ml
Windex007 7 points a day ago
It's crazy to call that dunkimg on somebody. It's the equivalent to having to get rid of a houseplant because your idiot trembling chihuahua is scared of it and pisses on the floor whenever it sees it.
BeatTakeshi 8 points 17 hours ago
I have a great Modlog, probably the best Modlog in the fediverse. People look at my Modlog and ask: How do you do it sir? That's a beautiful Modlog you have there. My ballroom is gonna be beautiful too.
Tar_alcaran 41 points a day ago
ML stands for Marxist-Leninist, but in practice it stands for kissing the ass of the dictators in China, Russia and North Korea.
MumboJumbo 6 points a day ago
The Metherlands? That's my new go to for the Missouri boot heel?
Tollana1234567 4 points a day ago
meth learning.
stickly 0 points 2 hours ago
"Wow what a riposte, really roasted that guy. Totally shut down his critique of AES by totally ignoring it and deflecting back to Amerikkka" –Every ml user in every conversation ever
Tollana1234567 3 points a day ago
which are all right wing countries by the way, thats why they mirror conservatives.
NaibofTabr 50 points a day ago
The tankies describe themselves as such.
To not be associated with them, more actual far-left adherents need to actively disavow the tankies.
Axolotl_cpp 18 points a day ago
Tankies:
Edit: actually i think i wouldn't put them exactly in that X axis position, i am sleepy so ain't gonna try to understand well their exact position so that's good enough
Doc_Crankenstein 7 points a day ago
* Anarchism has entered the chat*
Yea just gonna full sail disagree with you on this claim.
BeatTakeshi 3 points 17 hours ago
Schrödinger's political chessboard
Cosmonaut 2 points 14 hours ago
anarchism isnt the only branch of left, similarly how libertarianism isnt the only branch of right. You guys are too confident for associating yourself with a vastly non existent ideology
Tollana1234567 -2 points a day ago
end up being right wing. authoritarian in nature is often conservative leaning.
Forester 1 point 19 hours ago
Right wing and left wing are economic labels communism and capatalism. Right wing people tend to cluster towards the authoritarian side of the authority and liberty scale but so do left wingers.
godsammitdam 40 points a day ago
Almost like the throughline is authoritarianism. They like it when they have control but they don't like it when who they don't like has control.
Honestly, it feels like those with lower iq and less ability to inform themselves are the ones that love authoritarianism. They can't form a coherent ideology and devolve into just trying to control everyone to their underdeveloped beliefs.
That's where the whole bullshit idea of horseshoe theory comes from. It's people leaving out the authoritarian axis because it's beneficial to divide actual leftists and make us seem crazy.
cmhe 6 points 21 hours ago
I more and more think that there is just one dimension starting by authoritarian and ending with social.
Faschistst, Tankies, free market libertarians, autocrats and feudalists, are just authoritarians in with different origins. Their team should be in power, their team should be supported by everyone, while they profit from it.
While social people want nobody to suffer, everyone to be in power and have self a determination, etc.
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In -5 points 21 hours ago
True free market libertarians are anti authoritarian. US free market libertarians are always happy to have tax cuts, subsidies, tariffs, regulatory oversight etc. So long as it benefits them.
ParlimentOfDoom 15 points 18 hours ago
There no such thing as a free market. It's a constant tug of war between corporate consolidation and government/public power preventing monopoly and abuse. Removing the public power just leaves corporations unchecked and able to control the market itself.
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In 7 points 20 hours ago
They do exist. But not in the real business world.
There are economists that argue (with academic justification) that fewer frictions increase growth. But they usually ignore topics like human rights, environmental impacts, inequality etc.
beanburger 0 points 4 hours ago
You are crazy if you don't believe the USA is an authoritarian country. The leader who rules by decree (I mean executive order) is literally Donald fucking Trump. You have gangs of paramilitary police murdering innocent people, you have had a massive build out of surveillance technology without asking anyone, the elections are all fixed, there are more billionaires there than anywhere else on earth yet millions of people are hungry, the schools have been defunded, and you project military power around the world and killed millions of people in the past 20 years.
godsammitdam 1 point 2 hours ago
Where did I say that it isn't?
godsammitdam 3 points 13 hours ago
I don’t really oppose them?
Comply with international law and open up and I'd probably be for lifting them.
Just like I'm for removing sanctions on Cuba.
Just like I'm for imposing sanctions on Israel.
Just like I'm for imposing sanctions on my own imperialist country that's bombing and invading the rest of the world.
And let's point out too that it's not the US alone who has sanctions on NK like we do on Cuba. The UN Security Council consistently votes against the Cuba sanctions. They don't on NK sanctions. Russia and China are part of that council too with veto power, but it's unanimois. So 🤷♂️
What I would be for, actually, is a better way to affect beneficial change and avoid harming civilians. Sanctions themselves disproportionately affect normal civilians through food and medical shortages, etc, while the political elite can avoid them.
We're agreed though, liberals, especially neoliberal capitalists, are imperialists. And we're feeling that imperial boomerang come back around to us finally.
Cosmonaut 3 points 13 hours ago
Ok you are alright in this regard
I however disagree heavily with your assertion on "authoritarianism", because I am a marxist leninist.
Every anti "authoritarian" tendency of socialism (moreso sceintific socialism i.e. marxism) is reactionary and idealist in itself.
ZombiFrancis 5 points 7 hours ago
Ah yes. The Nazis to the left of Fascism with Hitler on their left flank.
A different kind of satire, I guess.
Forester 0 points 6 hours ago
Nazism adopted aspects of socialism, its just the Reich decided only certain groups were allowed to participate, while certain other groups were heavily persecuted stolen from, and murdered by the state. So on the Left Right scale yes they are slightly to the left of absolute right because of the social programs and redistribution of stolen wealth and land and the fact that while private ownership remained mostly intact private business was still guided and controlled by the state to facilitate the wartime economy. I'm not calling them socialists, just fascists that stole a few ideas from the socialists and implemented them in ways that would strengthen and benefit the german state, and pacify the remaining approved groups of approved peoples. It seems your conflating left right (communism - capitalism) with Authority and Liberty.
https://www.theholocaustexplained.org/...
Though TBF If I had made this graphic myself i'd probably have expanded the Nazism area to overlap with the Fascism square
ZombiFrancis 3 points 6 hours ago
The graphic also has my old professor on it as a notable figure, which is also comical. I wouldn't take it seriously at all.
Kangae_Hishiryo 0 points 5 hours ago
Because NK is a shitty country with a tankie Hitler.
DuncanTheDrunk 13 points 16 hours ago
I was really expecting you to say RFK with that worm business and all, but either work.
HCSOThrowaway 1 point 3 hours ago
Just their central nervous system, really. Everything else is or was tip-top.
chiliedogg 4 points 11 hours ago
JFK Jr: scrambled when he decided to push his flying skills beyond their limit, killing himself, his wife, and his sister-in-law.
Bluescluestoothpaste 9 points 18 hours ago
Damn in hindsight, it's obvious he's a lying piece of shit rapist, but at the time it was obvious too.
captainlezbian 8 points 16 hours ago
Nah you see a real republican would have bombed them into submission and sent in the seals to finish the job /s
Fr the only chance of winning would have been by perfectly following the rules of war, showing restraint, and working to arm dissidents and build a resistance capable of running a successful rebellion and governing well. Followed by us helping the new government build itself up. We learned nothing in Vietnam, we learned nothing in Iraq, and by fuck we managed to learn nothing in Afghanistan. We also managed to completely unlearn everything we learned in France, Germany, and Japan.
But had we learned all this we wouldn't have gone in alone, we'd've asked for the UN to call for troops to protect the protesters and worked with the international community to protect human rights.
Witchfire 5 points 13 hours ago
No no, a REAL Republican would have personally walked into Iran naked, without a security detail, and carrying an American flag and an AR14 while proclaiming the Strait of Hormuz theirs. There's still time if Trump or any tech CEO wants to show off their masculinity.
HCSOThrowaway 1 point 3 hours ago
... look, whatever it takes to get them to want him gone.
I don't care if it's because they think he's a secret space penguin as long as they vote to impeach and remove.
kesslerpartyatmyplace 23 points a day ago
I heard recently on a podcast a friend put on after we broke a 'length of time arguing about music' rule that 'horseshoe theory exists and is real, but only for idiots'
This is the truest thing I have ever heard.
RememberTheApollo_ 21 points 16 hours ago
Like attracts like. One egomaniacal narcissistic dictator likes another egomaniacal narcissistic dictator.
DudleyMason 0 points 4 hours ago
Sounds like a resounding "yes" to me.
HCSOThrowaway 2 points 3 hours ago
What are y'all doing, tankie purity testing?
BuckFutter 19 points a day ago
My god he is such a cunt. Has anyone asked Dennis Rodman’s opinion on the matter? They both seem to love NK.
cAUzapNEAGLb 19 points a day ago
Ok, so the basic gist im getting is that he begged sk to help save him from his iran quagmire, and when they rejected he said "ok fu" and took strategic resources (includong air craft carrier) out of the region, which finally reduced the pressure enough to sk to finally request peace from nk without daddy US butting in?
Trump got mad at being rejected, and tried to threaten imperilment, but instead it got nuetralized by peace because the us was holding up nk/sk tensions, especially in the latest while?
If so, this should be the strongest evidence for the technique of dealing with us foriegn deplomacy, just turn the chud down and he'll just give you your soverignty back.
Just stand up to the pretensious bully
im_fine_sandy 13 points a day ago
Actually I think it's simply that Kim Jong Un says nice things to Trump and is Trump's kind of guy, while his counterpart in SK Lee Jae Myung is a kind of bad ass progressive.
Perhaps someone will be along in a moment to tell me how wrong I am but from wikipedia Myung seems to have a pretty amazing story:
Lee grew up in poverty and often missed social activities because his family lacked the funds, relying on school faculty's support to join field trips and community events. He cited fishing along the creek with friends as one of his favorite pastimes
Like other children from poor families, Lee worked in a handmade necklace factory instead of attending middle school. When the necklace factory went bankrupt, he found work at Dongma Rubber. Because he was underage, he worked under various aliases. While working there, Lee injured his finger
After the first accident, Lee left Dongma Rubber and worked for Daeyang Industry. There, an industrial press crushed his wrist joint in a second injury. The wound went untreated and resulted in a permanent arm disability.
Lee has stated his own experience with severe poverty inspired his political philosophy of "suppressing the strong, helping the weak" (억강부약; 抑強扶弱; eokgangbuyak), which seeks to curb the privileges and excesses of the powerful and support society's poorest members
... [becomes lawyer] ...
After opening his own lawyer's office, Lee organized for labour and human rights with the lawyers' organization Minbyun, working with the heads of labour counselling centers in Incheon and Gwangju. In 1995, he started a civic movement as a founding member of the 'Seongnam Citizens' Association'. He gained fame as a lawyer and social activist in relation to the "Park View" preferential sale case, where an investigation suggested corruption in the awarding of building permits and preferential sales of property in Bundang to government officials.
On 2 January 2024, Lee was stabbed in the left side of his neck while holding a question and answer session with reporters after touring the construction site of a planned new airport located on Gadeokdo in Busan.
Lee gained international attention in 2024 when, after President Yoon Suk Yeol declared martial law and attempted to stop the National Assembly from convening using the military, he continued to go to the Assembly building anyway. Lee started a livestream on his YouTube channel, recording himself in a car driving to the National Assembly and climbing the National Assembly building fence to bypass the military personnel.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Jae_Myung
What a guy. I suspect that he is one of the few national leaders who has refused to felate Trump's ego.
ZILtoid1991 17 points 14 hours ago
North Korea has the files, and are blackmailing Trump with it.
Hackers: You can hack hackers to do the funniest shit in the world, if the Lazarus Group happen to have some unredacted Epstein Files on a computer connected to the net.
emergencyfood 3 points 13 hours ago
North Korea has the nukes, and any US surface ships within missile range have been sitting ducks for years. Trump is just the only one who can pass off a retreat as a victory.
Forester 2 points a day ago
Libertarians are by definition anti authoritarian. The Ancaps are our right wing fringe capital obsessed subgroup. The green party is our left wing fringe communism obsessed subgroup..
Personally as a relatively centrist Geoist Minarchist Libertarian.
TootSweet 6 points a day ago
What's "Lielbertarian" and why does searching for that give me zero results? Is it a typo?
If by "Lielbertarian" you mean the same thing I mean by "Libertarian with a capital L" (and what I mean by that is the U.S. Libertarian Party), then identifying as a "relatively centrist Geoist Minarchist Libertarian" explains why you'd say that "Libertarians are by definition anti authoritarian".
To a left libertarian (with a lower case l), right-wing "libertarians" (in quotes on purpose) simply prefer to be subjugated by despotic CEOs and landlords employing privately-owned mercenary paramilitary/cop organizations (like the Pinkertons) over being subjugated by despotic tyrants wielding state police and military. They're "libertarians" in name only. So long as my boss holds the authority to deny me access to the fulfillment of my basic needs and uses that authority to coerce me into creating surplus profit for them, nobody who thinks that's ok qualifies in my book as "anti authoritarian". (And no, the right to choose your own master by changing employers doesn't change whether it's authoritarian or not.)
daannii 7 points a day ago
Anyone who needs examples should read some Ayn Rand
Especially Atlas Shrugged
Pushed the belief that if you are big corp boss man it's because you are better than the plebs. Know better than them. Smarter. More sophisticated.
And Anyone being exploited deserves it. It's their fault for being in their position. They just are lazy and stupid anyway.
Her opinions. Not mine.
Her philosophies actually follow what we call in psychology as the dark triad or Machiavellianism.
Aka. Anti social traits.
By anti social I mean going against social order. Not being an introvert.
All three dark triad traits are believed to be conceptually distinct, although empirical evidence shows them to be overlapping. They are associated with a callous–manipulative interpersonal style.[8]
Narcissism is characterized by grandiosity, pride, egotism, and a lack of empathy.[9].
Machiavellianism is characterized by manipulativeness, indifference to morality, lack of empathy, and a calculated focus on self-interest.[10][11]
Psychopathy is characterized by continuous antisocial behavior, impulsivity, selfishness, callous and unemotional traits (CU),[12] and remorselessness.[13]>
Forester -1 points a day ago
Yes it's a typo. I have fat thumbs, personally I find your assessment is not accurate for the right wing side. Yes we do have very annoying ancaps but some of them swing a lot more hardcore anarchists than capitalists they just avoid the spotlight and live in the woods alone.
Most Libertarians are closer to Ron Swanson than Ron Paul.
wheezy 0 points a day ago
On paper they are "anti authoritarian". But, it's not an ideology that actually has the ability to maintain itself. It's like the right wing version of Anarchism in that there is no good historical example of it being able to maintain its structures.
For anarchist, the failure comes from pressure of external forces and is not able to defend from imperial powers.
For libertarians, the failures are internal. Without a capitalist state to maintain it; the contradictions of capitalism are overwhelming. The "ancap" systems can't even reach a "true ancap" stateless society before it's capitalist are begging for the state to defend them and bail them out. Which often just shifts into a state run under an "authoritarian" like dictatorship that serves the interest of capital.
The real material result of libertarian thought just devolves into capitalism with no liberal democracy. With no liberal democracy to absorb the frustrations of the masses; the remaining state turns to more direct militant measures to maintain itself.
It's the dumb right wingers version of Anarchism. It's just an ideology that directs the working class to believe that the answer is less state power. But, the capitalist don't want less state power. They have it. They just want to offer YOU less and believing libertarian bull shit is a good way for the masses to work against their own interest. No capitalist actually wants to dissolve the capitalist controlled state. It's literally what maintains their power.
wheezy 12 points a day ago
It's what happens when you don't have the the ability to analyze through dialectical materialism. It's confusing when suddenly the fascist mad man is seemingly taking the same stance as "tankies" on normalizing relations with a non violent country who's only crime has been being victim of a genocidal campaign over half a century ago. Trump likes Kim for the same reason that he likes Xi. He thinks they are actually the evil dictators that the US makes them out to be. He wants to be an evil dictator. He will always respect any leader that panders to his ego and treats him like a leader. Ironically, Western countries are bad at this. It's why he hates europe. Hell, Mamdani was smart enough to play a similar game of charisma. That's the dialectics. At least from what we are hearing from Trump. It's why he says things like this.
The main material reason is that the defeat in Iran has made any chance of the US maintaining its military in East Asia laughable. It cannot maintain its illusion of China being a threat. If China was going to invade Taiwan it would have done it. Instead, China cut its oil imports to help all of its Asian neighbors. The dream of a "shift to Asia" that happened under Obama is gone. The US power in West Asia is dying and they are pulling weapons and troops from East Asia to desperately attempt to hold onto it. They are stuck with capital invested in a region that they are showing absolute failure and weakness in. With capital investments in Israel and the military industrial complex Trump is being pressured to just "bring things back to how they were". They never will be. It may take a long time before that is admitted. I expect another round of bombing campaigns and maybe even a desperate small ground troop invasion to attempt to save face and "claim the strate". But this likely will fail and remain in this denial state for some time; ending through a different president most likely.
He will continue to deny the defeat and soon desperately shift to the one region of the world US capital can continue to exploit: South America.
Some of this is me mixing in my own predictions. Feel free to critize that. But, we obviously all know "JDPON Don" falls into the correct position sometimes, often because of his own ego and the shifting global relations in the face of a dying empire.
TLDR: The "tankies" are against American Imperialism. American Imperialism is losing its power and is forced by material circumstances to take actions that "tankies" would consider good. Trump is appealing to the "strong man" in Kim to make his weak move (failed Iran war causing troops and weapons to be removed) look like strength.
emergencyfood 0 points 13 hours ago
I think the simpler explanation is that NK has nukes, so any US surface ships in the vicinity are just missile bait in a war. Trump can get away with doing things normal politicians can't, so his advisors told him how 'respectful' Kim was being and got him to move the ships to a place where they might still have some utility.
wheezy 2 points 7 hours ago
This started not this week but months ago when they removed the THAAD defensive interceptors; not because they were "missile bait". They literally shipped them to Israel because they were running out of defensive interceptors there. They did this without any say or knowledge from the South Korean government until. They were told after the fact.
I don't disagree with your "simpler explanation". You're saying the same thing I said but removing the material reasons for why this is happening now. The THAADs have been there for 10 years. They were removed for a reason. The right wing military coup in South Korea failed and a more left leaning (for SK) government is in power. There are multiple material reasons for why the US is abandoning SK. The US was forced to remove THAADS, demanded submission to the empire with SK military support as it's people rightfully were upset. Trump wanted that submission in response to his sudden removal of the THAADs. They didn't get submission. So they are trying to get it through fear. The US hopes to stoke fear to move the SK government to the right (similar to Japan).
And if we've learned anything from the Iran war it's not specific weapons or military games that make other countries "missile bait". It's allowing US military bases in ones country and becoming a missile spunge for Israel.
Any country with US military bases right now should see them as a threat to their national security. Because you become the target when the US starts an illegal war of aggression.
mrbutterscotch 2 points 13 hours ago
Nope, most people are just tired of arguing with tankie idiots the same way they are tired of arguing with MAGA idiots. It's the same type of person.
mrbutterscotch 1 point 12 hours ago
Lol, sure my guy. Keep telling yourself that.
wheezy -1 points 6 hours ago
Eh, one person replied now. But I get your frustration. There are a lot of things I can't say in a comment or that I assume others know about so I don't even explain it. I can't write a book. I already get the "I'm not reading all that" replies enough as it is. But, when someone reads a comment without that context it can be hard for them to understand.
Things like THAAD in 2016. The protest in South Korea (I was actually there when they happened). I didn't mention the obvious connection to Iran being that Trump removed them back in March to defend Israel. Something I incorrectly assume people know. So, I could see how my comment could be seen as a "jump" without that knowledge.
But, yes, I'd definitely prefer people reply that disagree.
ThePantser 11 points a day ago
He can't ask his very good friend Kim in NK for assistance with Iran? What is he even trying to say in the message, other than "herpaderp I have dementia"
chuckleslord 14 points a day ago
He's trying to throw S. Korea under the bus cause they refused to help against Iran. Assume "petulant child" and you'll get his intention 90% of the time.
GutterRat42 21 points a day ago
Trump begged the South Koreans to join on Trump's Iran war. SK said go pound sand. Trump is throwing a tantrum like the baby he is.
MrMakabar 2 points 18 hours ago
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Wispy2891 6 points 15 hours ago
Oh, I forgot that there are people that like to split the hairs here.
Let me fix my sentence.
It was not an actual nuclear weapon test that happened a week ago, it was for the missile designed to carry such nuclear weapon. Totally different intent. Unthreatening and respectful.
marcos 8 points a day ago
Yes, tankies are fascists and think almost exactly like MAGA.
I'm not sure socialism as a concept even makes sense when used together with authoritarianism. "Far left" looks like it's exclusively a made-up label for some flags the Alt-Right uses.
redparadise 6 points 19 hours ago
"not sure socialism as a concept even makes sense when used together with authoritarianism"
True, only anti-marxist socialism is actual socialism™
redparadise 3 points 13 hours ago
"Have these gentlemen ever seen a revolution? A revolution is certainly the most authoritarian thing there is; it is the act whereby one part of the population imposes its will upon the other part by means of rifles, bayonets and cannon — authoritarian means, if such there be at all; and if the victorious party does not want to have fought in vain, it must maintain this rule by means of the terror which its arms inspire in the reactionists. Would the Paris Commune have lasted a single day if it had not made use of this authority of the armed people against the bourgeois? Should we not, on the contrary, reproach it for not having used it freely enough?"
- Frederick Engels
Name one country that is not "authoritarian", authoritarianism especially nowadays is a buzzword to dismiss whatever you don't like, every state is authoritarian, the question is who is it against, the workers or the capitalists, unsurprisingly a revolution in a reactionary capitalist world needs to sufficiently use authority to even survive the reaction.
Cosmonaut -2 points 13 hours ago
Liberals have exact same stance on imperialism as MAGA
hence liberals = fascists
I’m not sure socialism as a concept even makes sense when used together with authoritarianism
So you support anti marxist socialism? i.e. utopian socialism? lol.
ChickenLadyLovesLife 25 points 18 hours ago
Post something controversial like "Stalin killed some of his own people" on .ml and you'll see plenty of them.
tigeruppercut 17 points 18 hours ago
Either that or say NK is a dictatorship. When I first got on lemmy I got dogpiled by the hexies because I dared to say NK is a highly propagandized country (even gasp* moreso than the US). Still waiting for even a single one of those guys to move countries to live under the Kim regime, which apparently is the chillest, friendliest place on earth.
thanksforreading 2 points 12 hours ago
Nowhere on earth is more propagandized than the US. It's a literal $607B a year industry and it's infected most of the planet at this stage.
tigeruppercut 1 point 9 hours ago
Another wild ml account appears. Go live in NK and report back for me on the level of propaganda.
Cosmonaut -3 points 13 hours ago
US is absolutely more propagandized than NK lmao, NK dont even need to propagandize their people against US, they just need to tell the truth about the horrific crimes US commited there. What has NK ever done against US to be this demonized? lol.
tigeruppercut 0 points 13 hours ago
US bad doesn't mean NK good, ya mook
bigboismith 3 points 17 hours ago
An example https://vger.to/infosec.pub/post/37975928
Bluescluestoothpaste -3 points 18 hours ago
It's mostly bots, people get into argument with tankie bots and then make a whole fucking drama post about it.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA 6 points 21 hours ago
My horseshoe theory is that fascists are immune to horseshoes. I propose to launch horseshoes at Mach 4 at fascists to test this hypothesis (fascists take no damage from horseshoes being the null) and await positive response from the IRB
MoreZombies 5 points 21 hours ago
How does one get so far left that they are a "tankie"? I feel like I am very left leaning, but I would punch a tankie in the head.
is my understanding wrong? I don't get how you could be "Far Left" (In that they would be against Authoritarian Governments like the Nazis) yet also a "Tankie" (Which embraces and supports Authoritarian Governments).
Help me?
Simon_Shitewood 7 points 19 hours ago
Bacuse left and right - socialism and capitalism - have nothing to do with authoritarianism, which itself is a spurious concept. All systems are authoritarian; you're not allowed to form a communist state under liberalism, you're not allowed to form a government under anarchism, etc. You're forced to play by the rules of the hegemonic system, authoritarian is just a label for whether you personally like those rules.
MrMakabar 6 points 18 hours ago
It is honestly pretty simple:
US = bad -> anti US = good
Add to that the idea that revolutions are inherently violent and killing of some traitors is fine and you have your tankie. For dictators being somewhat anti American is a pretty good strategy. The US propaganda is pro democracy and that is a great enemy for a dictator, the US also does a lot of evil shit and the fact that your country is poor is all to blame on the US and absolutely not on the dictators stealing everything. That btw is also why "socialism" never worked for tankies. As in it would have been perfect, but the US destroyed it.
As for many of the best stories, there is a good bit of truth in it. As in the US actually does a lot of evil shit and 100% fights leftist movements. However it is not always the bad guy and two bad guys can fight each other and do so all the time.
AlteredEgo 1 point 5 hours ago
US propaganda is pro democracy
And (neo)liberal democracy is working as intended in the US. Except it is a lie because capitalism, the news media, the voting systems and the institutions are all flawed.
There is a fundamental question about the value of democracy and capitalism that liberals refuse to even entertain. Which is a problem. They can't not see themselves as good guys.
So when you equate an "authoritarian" regime with a "democracy" you get called an authoritarian. Not someone for a higher form of democracy.
I do agree there is a reactionary element in trying to rehabilitate Stalinism and the immense state violence during the great purge. If you'd want a revolution and clean up in the USA, how many people do you think you'd have to execute or put in prisons / gulags? But even so (when led by a paranoid sociopath) it's not the same because the underlying ideology actually does make a difference. So horseshoe, schmorshu.
Cosmonaut 1 point 13 hours ago
Add to that the idea that revolutions are inherently violent and killing of some traitors is fine
This is objectively true. Tell me one big societal change that is achieved without violence?
two bad guys can fight each other and do so all the time
Democrats and Republicans, i.e. Libs and MAGAts
absolutely not on the dictators stealing everything
Most of the time those "dictators" are dirt poor themselves (see maduro or gadaffi). I dont know where you got this assertion from.
That btw is also why “socialism” never worked
Socialism absolutely worked and it was 100% destroyed by USA most of the time.
HCSOThrowaway 4 points 3 hours ago
There is no horseshoe.
It's much better depicted as a 2D plane, a la Political Compass.
Tankies and Fascists have similarities because they're both hyper-authoritarian, not because being more fascist somehow brings you closer to tankies than your previous close political associations.
nickiwest 4 points 4 hours ago
I'm so confused by the way he ends so many messages with, "Thank you for your attention to this matter."
Is his brain so thoroughly fried that he can only regurgitate bits of corpo-speak regardless of whether they are applicable?
My headcanon is that someone sent him a letter with that closing 45 years ago and he thought, "That's a classy way to close a letter," so now he always uses it when he wants to feel official.
I also tend to read it as conveying the sentiment, "Please pay attention to me because I fear I will die if you stop paying attention to me."
skisnow 1 point 3 hours ago
One thing we know Trump is legitimately good at is manipulating rubes.
“Thank you for your attention to this matter" is actually quite subtle; it's got "you" and "your attention" in the same sentence, making it feel like he could be talking to you personally rather than as a group (compare e.g. Biden's common "May God bless you all").
"Hey, Trump thanked me for my attention, there's a guy who respects and values my time and opinions, and the fact that he says it in every one of his messages only means that he really does care what I think."
glitch1985 3 points 2 hours ago
People at my work sometimes end emails with this phrase. I treat it as a dog whistle and stop respecting them.
NaibofTabr 7 points a day ago
Trump was simping for Kim Jong Un during his first term. This is basically a rerun.
davetortoise 2 points 21 hours ago
Something something broken clock
CatalpaRed 2 points a day ago
Hellll yeah!
BigBoyShuanzee 2 points 19 hours ago
And all of this is said as The terrorist state of Israel is killing children unchecked.
Please save the innocent Palestinians from the terrorist state known as Israel.
humanspiral 1 point a day ago
South Korean presidents shift but, including current one, make reunification overtures vs distancing steps to the North. Trump will definitely threaten bombing South Korea if they were to advance on such measures.
imeansurewhynot 1 point a day ago
far-right* tankie
DudleyMason -7 points 4 hours ago
Unsurprising that ShitLibs just look at the surface of something and decide it's the same as something else because of surface similarities. They confuse billionaire owned media for unbiased sources, so it's no wonder they can't tell the tactics of siege communism from they way Fascism imports the tactics of control from the colonies by calling both things "authoritarianism".
Knoxvomica 1 point 3 hours ago
Siege communism, this is a thing you said for real.
emergencyfood -8 points a day ago
One has nukes, the other does not. Trump, whatever his faults, understands what that means.
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