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16 days ago by MattW03 to c/linuxmemes

empireOfLove2 176 points 16 days ago

There's nothing wrong with tuning your UI to match one you're more comfortable with. Thats the beauty of Linux.

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Tlaloc_Temporal 31 points 16 days ago

I wish I could tweak Win 11 to look like Win 7. The only improvement since then was putting the Folder Up button back and adding tabs to Explorer, everything else is worse.

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tomatoely 12 points 15 days ago path: 0 26030532 26032251 26034103, hotness: undefined, score: 12, children: 0
0ops 6 points 15 days ago

Exact same. That missing up button alone made me not like Windows 7, I didn't realize how much I relied on it in xp. I have one pc that I keep Windows 11 on for work because there's just too much niche software I need that only supports Windows, but everything else is Linux at this point.

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strongarm 1 point 15 days ago

I used to do this, and it meant I'd hold onto old habits and never used my current OS how it was intended.

This wasnt just for Linux either, I'd try using Win95 like 3.1, I'd try using XP like 98, I'd try using win 8 like 7, I'd try using OS X like Windows and I'd try using Linux like OS X or like Windows.

When I decided to learn the OS I was using (which didn't take much effort, but was a bit of a conscious decision) I had a much better time, less frustrated and more comfortable.

That would always be my recommendation to anyone switching OS (Or DE) learn it the way it was intended and you'll have a much better time

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gwl 2 points 15 days ago

The way my OS was intended was to be windowslike.

It uses kwin

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M137 1 point 15 days ago

Being comfortable with something is overrated, try new things and see what clicks for you. I never understood the "it's what I'm used to" thing, that just drives me crazy because you are so aware of the issues and there's never any excitement and interest of discovery. And I don't mean that you need to change everything all the time, I very much have specific things that I go to great lengths to have but I have those because I've found them and nothing else has come close to feeling as good.

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PuddleOfKittens 1 point 15 days ago

Trying new stuff is great - when you choose it. Random surprise tweaks that you're forced to spend a while figuring out how to revert are pure fucking evil and everyone knows it.

What's especially terrible is when people change stuff for the worse, then remove the old better option.

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cabb 1 point 11 days ago

Are we sure he didn't tweak it to have prompts that only give now or later option without a way to say no? Maybe he also set it to restart to install updates but only when he's in a call or has more than 30 minutes of unsaved work.

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auzy1 60 points 16 days ago

Windows 8.. or Windows 11 😬

There is a scale of psychopathy...

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AtomicHotSauce 43 points 16 days ago

XP, though? Hell yeah. I still miss that theme.

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DaGeek247 20 points 16 days ago

Lol, I grew up with the 98se theme and xp theme, and at this point i just think they're both incredibly ugly. Peak windows desktop prettiness and usability was windows 7 for me.

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bitjunkie 8 points 16 days ago

I disabled the UI stuff where it would look like Windows 2000 from XP until it stopped letting me. Different strokes, I guess.

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defaultusername 6 points 16 days ago path: 0 26029710 26029749 26029973 26031556, hotness: undefined, score: 6, children: 1
PuddleOfKittens 2 points 15 days ago

Put this thing in a VM and then let a scammer remote into it, see what he does.

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laurelraven 1 point 15 days ago

Honestly, I think Windows 8 Beta's theme was the best looking (if you ignore the issues with the start screen): pairing Aero with the squared windows actually looked really good.

That they not only removed Aero in the final version but also soccer their lawyers on anyone who tried to bring it back was just incredibly shitty on their part

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devfuuu 5 points 16 days ago

98 SE.

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deacon 5 points 16 days ago

XP or NT, I’d go back

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BurgerBaron 5 points 15 days ago

The Media Center theme was a nice twist on the default XP theme I'll admit.

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Stock53809 4 points 15 days ago

I used Royale Blue for ages, it was super easy to find the installer for and was signed by M$ so needed no UXTheme patch.

There was also Royale Noir and Royale Zune. Noir is a dark theme (Not to be confused with dark mode) and Zune, which was a different shade of black and sported an orange start button. Lastly there was also Royale Embedded which was a darker shade of blue, and had a blue Start button.

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auzy1 4 points 16 days ago

Windows 95 blew my mind.

Then windows 98 preview also was amazeballs

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laurelraven 1 point 15 days ago

You mean the Fisher Price theme? While it wasn't as bad as people seemed to think at the time, it really was kinda ugly and childish looking (but still an improvement over the corpo-boring '95 era theme)

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brosaph 16 points 16 days ago

Vista

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turbowafflz 14 points 16 days ago

vista and 7 both look really good, so thats fair

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TropicalDingdong 16 points 16 days ago

WindowsME

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django 10 points 16 days ago

Psychopath

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TropicalDingdong 7 points 16 days ago

The Mountain Dew Baja blast of windows releases

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Warl0k3 9 points 16 days ago

Inexplicably beloved by furries?

... no hang on, that actually tracks.

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blockheadjt 5 points 16 days ago

XP

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LostWanderer 4 points 16 days ago

Honestly, 8 and 8.1 weren't bad visually (technically a whole different matter). I wouldn't mind making my WM resemble good old Windows 8, but actually has a sane technical base of Linux underneath it.

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auzy1 10 points 16 days ago

It was the one with the weird start menu wasn't it? Also wasn't it the one that they started adding the second duplicate ui in a half assed way?

Like where they ended up with 2 control panels

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LostWanderer 6 points 16 days ago

Yeah, Microsoft removed the Start Menu and added full screen tiles, that were widgets that updated with stuff (like news). I don't remember when the two 2 control panels things happened, Windows had always been a mess to me up to that point. It could've been sooner or later, because Windows was built with legacy support in mind.

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over_clox 4 points 16 days ago

DOS

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slazer2au 3 points 16 days ago

Powershell

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auzy1 2 points 16 days ago

That's one of the bad ones

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Malica 2 points 16 days ago

Windows Me!

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mittorn 1 point 15 days ago path: 0 26029710 26042084, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 0
Siegfried 53 points 16 days ago

I tweak my linux so it becomes a prison for anyone that boots that isn't me, we are not the same.

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Dagnet 34 points 16 days ago

Reminds me of this youtuber that fell for a scammer's bait intentionally except he was in a VM of hannah montana linux. The scammer was so fucking confused haha

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PuddleOfKittens 3 points 15 days ago

Got a link?

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mamg22 2 points 15 days ago

I don't have a link either, but i'd check Kitboga's channel, he is usually screwing around with scammers in insane ways

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Dagnet 1 point 15 days ago

No sry, was a long time ago

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wreckedcarzz 12 points 16 days ago

"what in the fuck is a luks?"

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uderecife 7 points 16 days ago

That's why I log in through tty. What comes next is anyone's guess. Nerd wizardry.

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StumblingWasabi 3 points 15 days ago

If someone that isn't me can competently use my computer I consider it a personal failing. Always open to tips

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AmbitiousProcess 49 points 15 days ago

What's wrong with wanting a UI you're used to?

Everyone wants other people to switch to Linux until they do literally anything a purist wouldn't do with their own personal setup πŸ˜…

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drolex 8 points 15 days ago

You're using a UI?!?? 😑

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explodicle 2 points 15 days ago

My grandmother never realized she was using Linux because it just looked like all the other computers. (Linux was not the cause of her death)

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tyranny 3 points 15 days ago

great comment!
(Linux was not the cause of explodicle's grandmother's death)

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alecsargent 33 points 16 days ago

I tweak my Linux to look like TempleOS.

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Siegfried 11 points 16 days ago

Do you have the routine that shuffles bible verses?

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alecsargent 7 points 16 days ago

Of course, 3d sprites included.

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Agent641 18 points 15 days ago

Well, first I tweak my windows to mimic the appearance of the windows that I liked, windows 7. Then I tweak my Linux to mimic that.

Just because hurr durr windows bad, doesn't mean their huge team of UI and UX designers didn't ever come up with a good design. And like most things Microsoft, I take pleasure in pirating it when I can.

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LazyOldPervert 10 points 15 days ago

Goddamn it I still miss 7

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CheesyFox 5 points 15 days ago

IMO, Windows's UI/UX might seem good only if you haven't tried anything actually different. Tiling/scrolling WMs is the way.

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skidicarus 4 points 15 days ago

I'm pretty much always picking XFCE or KDE over just a WM. In the case of KDE, I use it like Windows. I make XFCE as Unity-like as possible, which I believe is the best interface for limited screen real estate.

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CheesyFox 1 point 15 days ago

I'm using the term "WM" loosely, as a more of a general term here.

And no, i can't call a DE that adds a title bar to every window, has a huge-ass taskbar, and a limited amount of free space per workspace "best for limited screen real estate". Something like Niri, MangoWC or Hyprland (with scrolling layout enabled) works much better and cleaner precisely in that regard, since they offer

a) a hotkey-first UX, meaning that everything usually represented by a UI button is moved to the keyboard and no longer needs to clutter the screen

b) literally infinite horizontal space.

I literally can't go back ever since i gave tiling a try, any floating de/wm now feels clunky and awkward to me.

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skidicarus 4 points 15 days ago

I use KDE on my desktop because I don't care about maximizing screen real estate in that context. I have a large monitor, so I can afford to lose some pixels to my taskbar or window borders. That being said, if I did care, I can make the taskbar autohide and pick a slim/minimal theme for the window borders. With regard to XFCE, I said I make it Unity-like. As such, there is no taskbar. I have a slim panel at the top that shows stuff I want to be able to see easily (i.e., pinned background applications, battery life, date, time, etc.) My dock-like panel autohides, so it takes up no real estate. Maximized windows merge into the top panel like in Unity, so the window borders take up no extra room.

Any DE can become "hotkey-first." For example, I launch terminal with CTRL+ALT+T. My application launcher is CTRL+SPACE, and it is text-based. Most DEs have default hotkeys for a lot of functions, and they are customizable.

Of course, all of this comes down to how one's workflow is. I don't ever see myself wanting to scroll my desktop or deal with windows auto-tiling. Multiple desktops is another example. It's something just about every DE offers, but I've never had a use for it. Different strokes for different folks.

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Agent641 1 point 14 days ago

I don't really like the feel of a full tiling windows manager, I've tried it and I just can't vibe with it. I use fancyzones on windows and fancytiles on mint, because I like to be able to define my zones of arbitrary size and position, like 3/8ths of a vertical screen, and snap a window to it, but then also sometimes adjust the window border a bit with the mouse. Or just stack window on top of each other. I use mouse a lot on both my work windows PC and my home Linux PC, so I customise both of them to be very similar and have the exact workflow I want, which is hyper specific. I even have the same 3-monitor layout, and keyboard and mouse on both my work PC and home pc so my muscle memory between work and home doesn't suffer πŸ˜…

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CheesyFox 1 point 14 days ago

Makes sense. Except I can't really say my muscle memory suffers either. The workflow on my home pc is just so different that it actually occupies a completely separate section of my memory, rather than overwriting it.

Btw, since you mentioned you're heavily relying on mouse in your workflow, i suggest you to take a look at Kando. It's cross-platform, and looks super cool.

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lime 17 points 16 days ago path: 0 26030535, hotness: undefined, score: 17, children: 5
Turret3857 9 points 16 days ago path: 0 26030535 26031395, hotness: undefined, score: 9, children: 1
cepelinas 4 points 16 days ago path: 0 26030535 26031395 26032115, hotness: undefined, score: 4, children: 0
alecsargent 3 points 16 days ago path: 0 26030535 26031370, hotness: undefined, score: 3, children: 1
lime 5 points 16 days ago

🎼when a grid's misaligned with another behind
that's a moirΓ©

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DontRedditMyLemmy 1 point 15 days ago

This, but I use the XP desktop image. I call it Winux. Let the hate flow through you.

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tanisnikana 16 points 16 days ago

I went in the far opposite direction, I tried to make Mint look like an entirely fictional OS, of the sort that might be seen in a video game.

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Warl0k3 20 points 16 days ago

... well you can't just say that and not provide screenshots, that sounds cool AF

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tanisnikana 16 points 16 days ago

The left dock is Plank Reloaded and it tucks out of sight when stuff gets maximized. Same for the top bar too. The turtle in both of them is the applications menu. System font across everything is Inter, and the terminal font is Special Elite.

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tanisnikana 7 points 16 days ago

Can’t really take a screenshot of my login screen.

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lime 6 points 16 days ago

...that's just the default ubuntu greeter with a different background.

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tanisnikana 5 points 16 days ago

Indeed! Mostly cause I don't really quite get how to replace the greeter. But I followed up with a separate comment written from my computer instead of my phone. :)

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TotalSonic 14 points 15 days ago

There is a heckuva lot to be said for the classic "start" category based app menu, tied to a task bar. XFCE, MATE, OpenBox, all draw from a paradigm established in the Windows 95 design.

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PieMePlenty 3 points 14 days ago

Its not a bad design. Personally, I couldn't get used to anything else (and I've tried). My first PC had Win 95 and I'm now on a Plasma desktop.

Microsoft is doing a great job at completely crippling the fuck out of their start menu though, proving once again they have no idea what direction they're going in.

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LeftReddit2 13 points 15 days ago

I use Windows from Scratch. I built all the bloatware and telemtry myself, god damn it!

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python 4 points 15 days ago

Always nice to come across fellow React developers!

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QuinnyCoded 12 points 16 days ago

I use KDE because it looks like Windows 10... also gnome feet.

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SaharaMaleikuhm 2 points 15 days ago

I love feet, but hate gnome 😞

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cepelinas 0 points 15 days ago

I don't like feet but yolerate gnome 😞

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RhondaSandTits 11 points 15 days ago

I tweaked my KDE desktop to look like XFCE.
What does that make me?

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Shanmugha 5 points 15 days ago

KDFCE boy :)

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explodicle 3 points 15 days ago

That's my favorite comic strip

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explodicle 10 points 15 days ago

I frequently compare my XFCE setup to Windows 95. The job of an OS is to run programs.

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gwl 10 points 15 days ago

Yeah gatekeeping is exactly how we get people to try Linux...

Ooh wait, that's the opposite.

Let people use Linux however they want. That's the whole point of the OS family, it's incredibly customisable

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Imgonnatrythis 10 points 16 days ago

Anyone with handwriting that meticulous is the real psycho

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Anchorxiety 10 points 16 days ago

I always loved the MacOS UI, so I emulate it in Linux. The visuals without the OS itself is just πŸ‘Œ

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pewpew 10 points 15 days ago

I made my KDE desktop look like Windows 7 and I like it

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Forester 5 points 15 days ago

Peak

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DanVctr 1 point 15 days ago

Screenshot? Legit curious cuz it looks so Mac out-of-the-box

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pewpew 2 points 15 days ago

I don't have it anymore because it broke with Plasma updates. Now i have it looking like Windows 10

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Fizz 9 points 14 days ago

Thats fine its your linux.

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rozodru 8 points 16 days ago

meanwhile I'm over here making NixOS look like NeXTStep

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BladeFederation 8 points 16 days ago

It was funny the first 5000 times I saw someone do it, but now it feels like I'm on a 5th date with someone who is still going on a monologue about epicly owning their bitch ex.

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AnimalsDream 8 points 15 days ago

Having grown up with a Mac before OS X came out, I liked that I could make XFCE look a bit more like OS 9, but I haven't been able to find a suitable equivalent for kde yet.

I might give a Windows 7 theme a try. As much as I hate Microsoft, I've been feeling unusually nostalgic for 7. That one was kind of peak for gaming.

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chrisashtear 2 points 15 days ago

I like kde a lot, but their theming is kinda shit. The win7 themes dont really achieve aero effects that well.

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AnimalsDream 1 point 9 days ago

Personally I care less about effects. I just wish we had more skeuomorphic themes to choose from. Like why can't I make my whole desktop look like a crazy Winamp theme?

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ddplf 8 points 14 days ago

Linux Mint was designed to deliver a smooth landing from Windows, and if you're the type of guy to have a problem with it, then the entire FOSS communtiy is gonna have a problem with you, because you're making it harder for people to escape from corporate solutions.

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palordrolap 8 points 16 days ago

Win 7's interface was good for a number of reasons and that's why my UI looks even more like it than the stock Cinnamon themes, which are already a deliberate rip-off.

If that makes people think me a psycho, so be it.

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keithan 7 points 15 days ago

I tweaked to look like windows xp, loved the retro feeling

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rumba 6 points 15 days ago

Now, now, are we talking windows 11 or XP?

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kopasz7 6 points 16 days ago

I tweak my Plasma to look like Gnome.

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MattW03 5 points 16 days ago

Sky is the limit

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UnfortunateShort 2 points 15 days ago

Okay that seems just straight up illegal.

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Eldritch 1 point 16 days ago

Looks at the GNOME users, "sad GNOME noises". It's okay buddy, whatever works for you.

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taiyang 5 points 16 days ago

Yes... but it's really... WINDOWS 98.

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Sam_Bass 5 points 15 days ago

only for gaming compatibility

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CheesyFox 5 points 15 days ago

I tried doing this at first, but i just kept being frustrated every time something wasn't like on windows...

Then i gave tiling managers (i3 specifically) a try...

Here I am now daily-driving Hyprland and writing custom ui with quickshell...

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MonkeMischief 5 points 15 days ago

I like making mine look like "XP if I got to make it do what I want and have things like dark mode."

I just miss the era :)

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cepelinas 0 points 15 days ago

How does it look?

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iatenine 4 points 16 days ago

I also tweak my Windows to mimic Linux

I call it OuroborOS

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zitrone 2 points 16 days ago

which linux? android? a smart fridge? a cars infotainment system? hannah montana linux? biebian? amogos?

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iatenine 2 points 15 days ago

Yes

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ian 4 points 15 days ago

But many Linux DEs are made to be similar to Windows anyway. They are serving generally the same purpose of supporting the file/app world. It's about time we moved on to a more streamlined user friendly world. But people's lack of imagination holds us back.

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sudoMakeUser 4 points 16 days ago

I do bind Ctrl-E for a new file browser and Ctrl-D to show desktop which I picked up from Windows.

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RedIce25 4 points 16 days ago

Well, does choosing Mint+Cinnamon for familiarity count?

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esc 4 points 16 days ago

When all I had was a netbook with 1gb of ram and really weak intel atom cpu, I've done the same, not for estetic reasons (there was a qtcurve theme that looked like gray windows theme of win 2000 - but worse, but it was extremely configurable and with it netbook turned into something marginally usable with kde 4.x).

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brokenwing 4 points 15 days ago

Well I use,

  1. META+E: Files
  2. CTRL+SHIFT+ESC: System Monitor
  3. META+I: Settings
  4. ALT+TAB: Switch Windows
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uniquethrowagay 5 points 15 days ago

Yeah I don't use Linux for the sake of it being different. Keyboard shortcuts are not what I dislike about Windows so why change muscle memory?

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rumba 1 point 15 days ago

3,4 are the default in KDE/Wayland I think

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prole 1 point 15 days ago

Why not just use meta+esc for system monitor? Less keys

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Siethron 4 points 15 days ago

But at least it's windows XP, right?

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Haaveilija 4 points 14 days ago

I mean... I used to have a macbook with Linux inside customized to look like Windows πŸ₯ΈπŸ˜ˆ

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InGodWeThrust 6 points 14 days ago

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BeMoreCareful 4 points 16 days ago

I miss some of the explorer features. Specially right click dragging.

I also have some trouble balancing all the smaller storage devices that get used by programs.

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UnfortunateShort 3 points 15 days ago

That's no problem actually, given that Windows frequently copied KDE you'd just go full circle

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sirico 3 points 15 days ago

They paid millions in user trails and data to get there and then did windows 8

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MasutaHarada 3 points 15 days ago

So it like you used this service for long, then the one who responsible for the service sucks suddenly, the alternative of that service is somewhat close but not carbon copy of your service, apparently you can involve yourself in adjusting the alternative to your liking , it is optional but alass it is inevitable.

Welcome to the world of customization, customer.

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ILikeBoobies 3 points 15 days ago

W8 I get it.

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WeLoveCastingSpellz 2 points 15 days ago

Ah when I got my android phone as a kid copied the newest iPhone with it to show you didn't need to pay all that for the same experience. Transitionary times are fun

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DisasterTransport 2 points 15 days ago
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anonfopyapper 4 points 15 days ago

Windows NT kernel is a disaster itself. Inferior on all parts when comparing to FreeBSD or Linux kernels.

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DisasterTransport 3 points 15 days ago
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nroth 2 points 14 days ago

AeroThemePlasma iykyk

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Fmstrat 2 points 15 days ago

I made WinTile for gnome. Gave me back quarter tiling.

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x00z 2 points 14 days ago

I just want an icon only taskbar at the bottom and a Windows 7-like application launcher. Besides that it doesn't have to look like Windows at all.

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AlecSadler 2 points 15 days ago

I do this, but largely around customizable tiling, keyboard shortcuts, low to no animations, and RDP.

As far as actual -theme- that seems insane.

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WhiskyTangoFoxtrot 2 points 16 days ago

I tweak mine to mimic OS/2. It's why I have a panel at the top of my screen to mimic the one in OS/2 Warp 4.

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RickyRigatoni 2 points 16 days ago

"We tweaked your windows to mimic linux"

-Microslop, after windows 10

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ColdWater 2 points 15 days ago

I tweaked my NIRI WM to look like KDE

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atopi 2 points 16 days ago

This is one of the reasons i hate kde and love gnome

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Eldritch 3 points 16 days ago

I can't do GNOME. I've tried multiple times over the last25 years. I am well past the point where I do heavy wild customizations to KDE etc. Some colored window decorations to make it easier to find the buttons. Change icons and pointers. Monolith MHL in the background. And a little jiggle physics. Some of that GNOME can do, but it will often fight you over it. For myself plasma just has less friction, literally and figuratively. Though to be honest I'm not familiar with the friction coefficient of a gnome.

I've heard some say the restrictiveness of GNOME makes them more productive. Poor bastards.

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GloomyDorje 2 points 15 days ago

Well yes, but i always tweeked my windows to the point of breaking. Now i use mint and have reached the point where i love how it looks, everything works and i will likley sit with its current form for some years, maybe untill my kids are older and i have more time to waste again.

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cepelinas 2 points 16 days ago

Where do I get my certificate?

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Takapapatapaka 1 point 15 days ago

Aha ! I choose a distro that looked like Windows out of the box, so did not tweak anything, joke's on you i'm no psycho

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Sina_in_Sinai 0 points 14 days ago

random comment to see if i can comment... (im not a bot)

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Skullgrid -5 points 16 days ago

iTweak my Linux to look like a Mac.

Fucking r[slur redacted]

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