Pete Hegseth vows to make first firing squad execution in decades ‘public’
4 days ago by arrow74 to c/politics
It breaks the heart.
"Violence in our hands, embrace it if need be."
But this is what we’ve always wanted as a fundamentalist Christian nation: some hardcore eye-for-an-eye shit you can take the kids to. Put it on TV. The line between entertainment and real death is long gone. “Here. Here's American Gladiators. Watch this, shut up. Go back to bed, America. Here is American Gladiators. Here is 56 channels of it.”
Ironically the actual fundamentals of Christianity:
Be kind to your enemy. Turn the other cheek. Forgive those who trespass against you. ..to the least of these... Let he who is without sin...
Unfortunately our claimed heritage and real heritage are very different 😭
The heritage we mean:
White supremacy
The religion we mean:
Christian Sharia law
yoink
Hush, that’s communist talk!
Yeah, the Sermon on the Mount stuff sounds pretty great. Or Thomas Jefferson's bible. Or just being a red-letter Christian.
It'd be great if all the other stuff was left by the wayside, but it's still there, lying in wait...
some hardcore eye-for-an-eye shit you can take the kids to
Brought to you by the same pearl clutchers that think drag queens reading a story to kids is totally inappropriate.
America has always been violent
I'd argue that in spite of the feckless of attempts, that the US on aggregate has strived to move away from that violent past, but the full throated nature of this sort of thing definitely feels "traditional" in that sense.
When? Doesn't seem to me like they ever stopped invading/attacking poor countries. I guess you're referring to when it switched from "we're doing this for our gain" to "we're doing this for their freedom"?
I think by US on aggregate they are referring to the general populous view. The general populous is at worst split on these world police, liberation crusades
US has a huge amount of violent crime, always has. They can't stop warring since WW2.
My argument is about the overall striving as a people and a nation, evidenced by a trail of admittedly flawed and leaky legislation whose heart I believe is in fact in the right place. It feels apparent that power sticks its foot in the jamb to hold the door ajar just enough for itself on almost every attempt to make progress.
I concede that US history is horribly marred and shameful, and it behooves us to honor that by not forgetting that past.
it’s going to be soldiers with rifles executing the firing squad.”
How are those soldiers chosen to participate?
Are they ordered to do it, or are they volunteers who actually want to shoot another American citizen?
Were you not impressed by his bench (40-is quarter reps with 60kg)?
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I can remember when in most circumstances, even (most) conservatives thought something like "chop-chop square" in Saudi Arabia was disgusting and barbaric.
Of course, the sick fucks that voted most gleefully for someone like donnie didn't really think so. They think that's a great example of "law and order", FFS.
Oh sure, they'd also concern-troll about "Shariah law" - they'd pretend to wring their hands over how gays are thrown off rooftops or women stoned or whatever in other cultures that have out of control religious rightwing extremism driving lots of hatred, but really they are ultimately quite jealous, because they want to do that here.
Here you go: https://apnews.com/...
The entire purpose is to spread fear, so nobody defies Trump over the next 2 years (or beyond that). This really is like North Korea now. Congrats. This is what happens when you elect a dangerous narcissist with dementia (people who knew him even strongly warned about him)
Its a good thing you guys didn't vote for Kamala. That would have been horrible /s
We need to understand that we are already in a civil war. Conservatives have promised to "rise again" every single fucking day since we showed them mercy in 1865. We pulled Sherman back and let conservatives live, and now we have concentration camps. They have been plotting to kill us every day since their "surrender".
It's time to finish the war. Properly and completely this time. Act independently. Be discrete. Be prolific.
The conservatives have dozens of gargantuan new concentration camps that are currently empty. They plan to fill them after midterms. Our latest genocide is just beginning.
I will "deal with" as many of my enemy as I can now, before they put me in the camps. Rolling over and giving up is the very definition of weakness.
I’m willing to bet it’s even worse than that. They’re executing a brown man and putting it on American tv. This is just raw meat for the rabid maga cult. Riling up the racists to keep them happy and actively supporting their dear leader, despite the fact that gas & food & everything else are more expensive than ever.
Jokes on you*, I don't even want to be alive RIGHT NOW! What are you gonna do now, fascist pigdogs?
*General non-personal 'you'
These people are such freaks
This is just warm up. Trump has been itching to execute his "enemies" via firing squad - Stalin style - except that trump has instantaneous WORLD WIDE ACCESS to the world. He has been DYING to start executing his enemies. You know, like democrats. Intellectuals. news people. Like that. That's why he made firing squads part of the federal "justice" system in his first term. Long term planning. Once he steals the next election he'll have carte blanche to be the Stalin he's been trained to be.
I figure because he's such a sleaze that he'll make it pay-per-view and cash in on that too. Finally... his ratings will begin to climb.
We aren't allowed to talk on Lemmy about what should be done to conservatives, yet we can openly discuss what they are actively doing to everyone else.
But it is on a .world instance, so no, you can't.
I say whatever the fuck I want on .world.
But yes I'm aware of the issues with this instance. I created a temporary account here after lemm.ee died and have been too lazy to instance shop so it kind of became my permanent account. I have ADHD; I'll fix it later.
That is not true. It's way better than Reddit, but I have had numerous comments removed and have been banned from several communities for calling for violence against conservatives.
The thought of shooting someone gets this dude hard. I fully believe that.
Pathetic ass loser.
I think there is section of society that would like to kill people and justify it. Wether it's home "defence", predditor hunting or execution. The current admisnistration seems to enjoy signing death warrants. Shooting or beating are more apeling than failing to find a vain in a closed door away from public view.
Fascists always gonna fash.
I hope one day it's his turn and they do the same. I'll make popcorn
Should make for some great edits putting Charlie Kirk in there since it's okay to show people being executed by gunfire.
Too bad we don’t have an FCC to shut that down, a Congress to remove them for this blatant crime, or an FBI that will ever do its job.
Corruption, as far as the eye can see.
Clearly this is full Nazi behavior. One possible good thing that could come out of this is if someone gets the list of who streams it. That would be very helpful if we ever get to the Nazi punching part, or even as a list of boys you won’t want to date or let into the nice places.
Businesses aren’t really going to be involved unless Hobby Lobby puts its logo on the blindfold or something. The army already has rifles and ammo. The live stream is probably going out on the DoD and Trump media. Any major outlets can just say they have content restrictions, FCC rules, etc unless they are reeeealy wanting to light themselves on fire for a bad cause. More like if someone tracks the viewers back to neighbors, frat houses, etc. I guess if it was a business owner that people could boycott that might be a thing, but the businesses that would take a hit from that a limited.
Republicans are turning America into a true shithole country.
What's the difference between China, Russia and Donald trumps USA? I'm not sure anymore.
China also doesn't have school shootings so regularly it no longer makes the news
Checkmate
China and Russia don't hold public executions....
There isn't intended to be one. Kleptocratic Authoritarian regimes.
Gives conservatives a raging hard on just imagining it.
Can it be his own?
I'd watch that!
Unpopular opinion: maybe people should bare witness to the hideous sight that is state-sponsored murder.
Unfortunately the people who already support capital punishment also enjoy watching it.
Gonna pull a trigger yourself, Pete? Nice canned hunt for you that won’t shoot back.
That was a exection by one person, he wants a whole bunch of people shooting at the same time whilst forcing everyone to watch
I hope it's for them
Hegseth is a pussy ass bitch piece of shit who drinks his own piss.
So Pete, where are you going to stand exactly?
I hate these jerks but I think this is the right thing to do for two reasons. Firing squad death is about as humane as we have. Lethal injection is too error prone and can end as torture instead of death. I also think that if you as a society are going to execute people, it should be public so that people have to see the actual consequences of execution. If it’s too gory to watch, maybe don’t do executions?
I doubt it. Those with the sick bloodlust will love it and eat it up. You'll see what I mean when you see some discussions on things like that failed injection.
Exactly. And if you and your fellow Americans aren’t ok with that you need to do more to put a government in place that will stop the practice entirely.
Hiding executions in the shadows is clearly not controversial enough to get Americans to stop the practice. Maybe this will be. It will for sure expose what America is at its core.
People don't have to see it though. If the thought of watching someone die makes you uncomfortable, you just don't tune in. The people who tune in will be those who want to jerk off to the state killing a brown dude for crossing it.
Is your anger at the fact that the execution is happening, or that it’s public?
If it’s just that it’s public, then what that tells me is that actually you’re fine with it as long as it’s hidden from you.
Pre radio and tv, and interestingly the human rights revolution in western nations aligns well with increased public discourse allowed by radio and tv.
Key Abolition Timeline in the Western World
19th Century:
Post-World War II (1940s–1960s):
Late 20th Century Wave (1970s–1990s):
- Portugal: 1976
- Denmark: 1978
- Norway: 1979
- France: 1981 (under President François Mitterrand)
- Australia: 1985 (completed across all states/territories)
- New Zealand: 1989
- Canada: 1998 (abolished for ordinary crimes in 1976 and completely for all military/remaining offenses in 1998)
- United Kingdom: 1998 (de facto ended in 1965, formally abolished for all remaining offenses like treason in 1998)
You’re deliberately missing the point. Whether you watch it or not, that it is televised brings the issue of execution to the public’s attention:
- If a country is going to execute people, it should have the honesty to show the public what that actually means
- if the public can’t handle public executions, they should perhaps revisit why they want something they are unable to bring themselves to watch.
- Regardless of intent, making executions public is increasing public dialogue about executions. We can see that correlation in other countries above. Improved communication modes correlated with abolition.
- If that increased public dialogue focuses on the fact that the executions are public and not that they are happening at all, that shows a basic dishonesty about what the problem actually is.
Intimidation and fear monger don't scare me nazi fuck stains! want evil? come knock on my door bitches
Fucking cringe
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