A message to new users

3 years ago by lwadmin to c/lemmyworld

Hello World!

The last week or so we have seen quite a big 'boost' in the amount of new users signing up so we thought it would be a good time to highlight some things that are of interest to new users.

CODE OF CONDUCT

Lemmy World is not a free speech instance, there are a couple of ground rules that need to be followed. If you're new, I would advise you to read our Code of Conduct.

NEW USER QUESTIONS

If you are new to the fediverse as a whole, it might all be a bit overwhelming. What is Lemmy? What is federation? What even is an instance? For those questions I would suggest you have a look at the getting starting guide. It should cover most of your questions.

STILL HAVE QUESTIONS?

You can head over to the !support@lemmy.world community. This community should be used for questions regarding Lemmy World and is not the support community for the Lemmy software this site uses.

Our Admin @quinten recently made a post covering the most recurring questions there too. Read about that here.

ALTERNATIVE USER INTERFACES

Lemmy World hosts a few custom User Interfaces which give you a completely different experience both on the desktop as on mobile.

THIRD PARTY APPS

There are a lot of Third Party apps available for Lemmy. From Paid to Open Source, you will find something that suits you easily.

For a complete list of apps have a look at https://lemmyapps.netlify.app/ (Thanks Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de).

EDIT: Updated the apps list. Also some more interesting links in @otter@lemmy.ca's post here: https://lemmy.world/comment/3962001

EDIT 2: Instead of https://photon.lemmy.world you can now just go to https://p.lemmy.world. You can thank @Rootiest@lemmy.world laziness for that.

FlyingSquid 215 points 3 years ago

Welcome to Lemmy. I love you.

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joyjoy 48 points 3 years ago

Welcome to Lemmy. I love you.

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unreachable 17 points 3 years ago

this is the way

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WhiskyTangoFoxtrot 19 points 3 years ago

That's the way
Uh-huh uh-huh
I like it
Uh-huh uh-huh

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moistclump 3 points 3 years ago

That’s the way Uh-huh uh-huh I love you Uh-huh uh-huh

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moosetwin 15 points 3 years ago path: 0 3960664 3964482, hotness: undefined, score: 15, children: 3
Obeliskoid 9 points 3 years ago path: 0 3960664 3964482 3968749, hotness: undefined, score: 9, children: 1
PipedLinkBot 2 points 3 years ago

Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

I love you.

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.

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PipedLinkBot 3 points 3 years ago

Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

I love you.

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.

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mysoulishome 6 points 3 years ago

Love you too

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TruTollTroll 6 points 3 years ago

Welcome to lemmy Costco. I love you!

Lmao, I couldn't help myself.. but seriously welcome everyone. lol

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Karyoplasma 6 points 3 years ago

Are they actually saying that? Greeters in a supermarket is a concept that I as a European never understood but this is ridiculous.

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TruTollTroll 8 points 3 years ago

Lol no.. well not yet.. have you seen the movie Idiocracy? It's a hilarious movie that moves closer to being a documentary than it does a comedy, every day. Lol

There is a scene about Costco and how it's no longer just a mega shop center but also a university where you get your law degree and way more.. lmao. The greeters at Costco (in the movie) say welcome to "Costco, I love you." And it's quite funny. So welcome to Costco, I love you

Idk if my link worked... so here it is. https://youtu.be/Z8zNsUTWsOc?si=plbGJXzRSsV8ZZrr

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otter 81 points 3 years ago

The list of apps is pretty out of date. For example, Boost already came out and !instance_assistant@lemmy.ca is a pretty popular extension. I use it a lot to make posts, and just used it to open that post on my instance.


Also related is how to find communities

I help with !communitypromo@lemmy.ca, and the idea is that you can subscribe to keep seeing more recommendations. We also have a guide for finding new communities here: https://lemmy.ca/post/5581032, which I've copied below:


A great way to find lesser known communities is to look at the /communities page on an instance. For example: https://lemmy.ca/communities

For a list of instances to look through:

  • pangora.social (NEW): Great way to find instances related to a particular topic. This is also great for picking an instance when first making an account/moving accounts.
  • awesome-lemmy-instances: not that organized, but it

*� Search pages


*� Apps and Browser Extensions


*� Communities for discovering new communities:

Here are some other communities, some of which are less active:

Remember, you can also post questions about finding new communities right here!


*� Coming from Reddit?

https://lemmyapps.netlify.app/

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Blaze 12 points 3 years ago path: 0 3962001 3963212, hotness: undefined, score: 12, children: 3
otter 8 points 3 years ago

This is great, even lets out sort by popular.

It's a little out of date in some areas (so far I mainly noticed the beta/stable tags), but this format is great

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antik 6 points 3 years ago

Cheers added

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Blaze 4 points 3 years ago

Cool!

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red -19 points 3 years ago
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Assassin4 76 points 3 years ago

Any particular cause for this latest boost of new users? I came here when the API ban happened and am much happier with Lemmy. So welcome to everyone!

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antik 96 points 3 years ago path: 0 3960830 3961301, hotness: undefined, score: 96, children: 19
Synnr 53 points 3 years ago

Also, Relay Pro was the only allowed 3rd party app, and they just released an update that requires you to pay for API usage, with no way to bypass or exit the pay screen. So that was the last of my last reddit usage. Uninstalled.

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Dave 23 points 3 years ago

I'm assuming that means the reddit grace period is over. A small number of apps negotiated continued free access to the APIs to give time to move to a subscription model. Looks like that time is up.

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Geert 18 points 3 years ago

Correct, it got an update today and now it's asking to subscribe. 1€ is "about half an hour of browsing every day". How about fuck you Reddit

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TrustingZebra 16 points 3 years ago

RedReader is still allowed to exist due to its extensive accessibility options.

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seaQueue 8 points 3 years ago

It's also FOSS, Reddit changing their API fee structure was Reddit trying to capture all third party app income and RedReader generated none.

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wreckedcarzz 4 points 3 years ago

<3 RR. I actually suggested to the dev ~last year that he put up a patreon page; I was the first subscriber. I've been using it for over 10 years and imo nothing else came close. Eagerly awaiting the update that supports reddit and lemmy.

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Nihilore 12 points 3 years ago

Same with narwhal on iOS, just announced the exact same thing

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scytale 3 points 3 years ago

The new version of Narwhal is beautiful, I wish they’d develop it for Lemmy too.

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Markaos 7 points 3 years ago

Infinity did pretty much the same thing a few weeks ago. Now I'm a happy Eternity (previously Infinity for Lemmy) user.

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insomniac 5 points 3 years ago

Narwhal still works but it’s terrible so I get why people pretend it doesn’t exist.

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Draconic_NEO 1 point 3 years ago

Have you tried patching the app? I was able to do it with Infinity and it worked just fine.

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Ataraxia 1 point 3 years ago

I mean redreader will always be exempt so there's that.

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kipperzdog 9 points 3 years ago

That's why I'm here now! I loved boost for Reddit

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dandroid 3 points 3 years ago

I wish we could get RIF over here. 😭

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TheSpookiestUser 4 points 3 years ago

I've been using Connect (!lemmyconnect@lemmy.ca) and, while it's not the same, it feels fairly similar to RIF (which I used to use) after some customization.

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ofk12 2 points 3 years ago

Give Liftoff a go. I was using RIF and happy enough with this app

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willya 57 points 3 years ago

The boost believe it or not came from the launch of Boost for Lemmy which was a popular Reddit client.

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LackingC10H12N2O 2 points 3 years ago

Boost for Lemmy, Boost for life!! 🚀

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cheese_greater 2 points 3 years ago

I also really liked that one.

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IbnLemmy 47 points 3 years ago

Another reason could be that this week, Relay for Reddit start charging... Or should I say, Reddit started charging Relay... Anyway.. First post and all that.. Hi

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Blaze 9 points 3 years ago

Welcome!

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IbnLemmy 3 points 3 years ago

Thank you

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toots 35 points 3 years ago
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Blaze 10 points 3 years ago

Welcome!

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Crack_ 31 points 3 years ago

I just left today because relay went into subscription mode. It's nothing against dbrady I know he does his best (made the best app for Android afaik, and even his subscription isn't a money grab) but fuck reddit charging people for using their social media. Don't want snap insta tic tok Facebook twitter etc... to start charging us.

Fuck that shit. I'm old and I remember what the internet used to be. I'm having a hard time accepting everything becoming a fucking subscription (looking at you YouTube).

Also, I'm using boost for Lemmy and I quite like it. If anyone can suggest anything else/better to try I'd be grateful.

Edit: this is my first comment 🥳🥳🥳

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AMillionMonkeys 10 points 3 years ago

I’m old

You'll fit right in.

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Veltoss 9 points 3 years ago

Same. I didn't care for relay compared to RiF, not my preference, but it was good enough after RiF died. But now that relay is out too? I'm not sure I can stomach using the reddit app. I'm definitely not paying for anything either. I already pay with my mental health by reading reddit comments, I'm not paying money to do it too.

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Blaze 2 points 3 years ago

Welcome!

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BigBase 1 point 3 years ago

Same, relays fine but sync was my main app they ceased their reddit app in june. Just realized they had a spiritual successor for Lemmy up and running so I'm giving it a try now. All the server stuff got me feeling like a boomer but the app actually feels like I remember sync for reddit feeling so I'm hoping I can get into the swing of things without too much trouble!

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NevermindNoMind 1 point 3 years ago

Welcome! Former long time Relay user, but I left reddit in June. For what it's worth, I like Thunder and Connect. They are both open source and add free (no offense to ad supported apps). Just thought you might like to know what a fellow Relay user settles on after months of trying them all out.

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Blaster_M 4 points 3 years ago

Relay Pro had to move to a Subscription model for 10/01, as API costs are now being enforced. Both that and the SafetyNet requirement means those of us on custom android phones can't use any premium Reddit app, so RIP.

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abruptly8951 1 point 3 years ago

For me the infinity subscription bypass stopped working so I finally made the switch

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Omega_Haxors 76 points 3 years ago

I'm laughing my ass off at old.lemmy.world whoever did that, hats off to them.

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antik 32 points 3 years ago path: 0 4033341 4069194, hotness: undefined, score: 32, children: 0
lowtone94 12 points 3 years ago

This is the only way to browse!

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Anonymosh 11 points 3 years ago

Holy shit that is hilarious!

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cheese_greater 60 points 3 years ago

Honestly tho, if people aren't being absolute dicks, its pretty frickin' free in the speech department. I have to be conscious of it cuz I'm on several different boards with way higher standards and I don't want to be booted from them. It never hurts to be kind and fun and even a little intense sometimes.

Just afix your heart to the right place and everything's gonna be just fine. Stay excellent u lemmings!

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HawlSera 22 points 3 years ago

Like seriously, I've already said countless things that would give you the boot on reddit, and I've been allowed to just say it without even getting downvoted.

So we're back to the "Old Internet" rules of "Just don't be a dick"

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cheese_greater 4 points 3 years ago
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HawlSera -8 points 3 years ago

I think you'd have to be blatantly, openly, unquestionably, intentionally, and insultingly racist to get kicked off of here.

Definitely not like Reddit where "Oh didn't you hear Piano was made a slur yesterday, oh you didn't? NO EXCUSES! You're permabanned for being a Nazi!" is the law of the land.

Edit: Why am I being downvoted

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SnowdenHeroOfOurTime 3 points 3 years ago

Bad faith argument

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cricket97 1 point 3 years ago

can attest to this. used to being banned on reddit for some very mainstream (yet controversial in terminally online spheres) opinions. i hope lemmy moderators never become what reddit moderators have become

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zeppo 60 points 3 years ago

I> Remember to criticise ideas, and not people.

That’s a nice guideline. I kept trying to explain that to my recent ex… the vast difference between saying “this behavior is unproductive” vs. “you are unproductive”.

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LiquidPhD 19 points 3 years ago

I think for some people, there is zero difference between the two. These kind of people are "you are what you do" kind of people. Lazy people have lazy behavior, unproductive people have productive behavior, etc.

It could also be that they take "you are unproductive" to be a sort of shorthand for "Right now, you are being unproductive. How people perceive themselves and others in time can be strange. That can also cause problems with communication.

Anyway, have a great week!

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zeppo 14 points 3 years ago

Avoiding that is something I learned to do intentionally, I suppose. Labeling the person and not a behavior is more confrontational and psychologically suggests to people that they can’t change. It’s also a lot broader, more sweeping type of statement that suggests all of their behavior is that way.

Thanks, I hope your week is lovely as well.

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seaQueue 3 points 3 years ago

I think for some people, there is zero difference between the two. These kind of people are "you are what you do" kind of people. Lazy people have lazy behavior, unproductive people have productive behavior, etc.

Some people are intellectually lazy and just don't care to differentiate. I try not to spend much time talking to them, they tend to be dicks.

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dgendreau 2 points 3 years ago path: 0 3986953 3995876 4114247, hotness: undefined, score: 2, children: 0
LackingC10H12N2O 53 points 3 years ago

Oh man... my first post here on Lemmy, hailing from Boost for Lemmy!

My Boost for Reddit is still working but I got permanently banned for an absolutely ridiculous reason..

Here's to hoping that B4L can be everything that Reddit threw out the window, and more!

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mysoulishome 14 points 3 years ago

Welcome to Lemmy, I love you

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LackingC10H12N2O 2 points 3 years ago

☺️ just happy to be back!

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PeleSpirit 11 points 3 years ago
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lwadmin 4 points 3 years ago

I like to think it is someone who missed the upvote button and accidentally downvoted.

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Kuma 5 points 3 years ago

That could actually happen, it happens to me a lot. I use voyager and sometimes do i hold the vote slide too long. But (i hope) i always see it and fix it. Sometimes i need multiple tries, i vote too little to get good at it 😂

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Chee_Koala 1 point 3 years ago

Welcome to Lemmy, this is gonna be great 😄 !

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FastWarfarin 0 points 3 years ago

Even i came here after a ridiculous permanent ban

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Pheonixdeath 53 points 3 years ago

Thank you. Gave up Reddit when Reddit Is Fun (RIF) died. Found Lemmings. Wait a few weeks and now here I am. I have to admit the different instances and this federation thingy, a lot to learn though it feels.more background stuff that Reddit may have had but we just didnt notice. Appreciate the post and happy to be here. Cheers!

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Rentlar 9 points 3 years ago

Welcome. Glad to have you here!

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knotthatone 8 points 3 years ago

I hope there's a "Lemmy Is Fun" app eventually, but I haven't heard whether the original developer is interested. He's apparently working on something with Tildes.

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VentraSqwal 5 points 3 years ago

Hopefully after Tildes, though I wouldn't blame if he doesn't want to support two apps.

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rockSlayer 4 points 3 years ago

I'm also a former RiF user. If you want some recommendations, I highly suggest Liftoff

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Obi 3 points 3 years ago

Yeah I've settled in well in liftoff (also ex-RiF), I try other apps here and there but this one seems to work fine for me.

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zecg 4 points 3 years ago

I also like Jerboa, but Liftoff can be logged in on several instances at once, which is nice.

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ofk12 2 points 3 years ago

I was also using RIF and happy with Liftoff.

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seaQueue 2 points 3 years ago

Check out Boost, IIRC you can get it to behave mostly like RIF with some settings tweaking. I haven't used RIF since like 2016, I found Boost around then and switched full time - Boost's compact mode was the closest thing to old.reddit.com I could find in a 3rd party client.

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SocialMediaRefugee 5 points 3 years ago

I gave up reddit when I got banned by an automod because I commented on a subreddit they didn't approve of. No attempt to put my comment in context (I was questioning the "offensive" subreddit). No appeal, no one to talk to. Pretty ironic that a site that claims to be for "open conversations" is run like an authoritarian gov. Really scummy site.

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LackingC10H12N2O 3 points 3 years ago

Lol I got permanently banned from reddit for "Report Abuse".. apparently the hive mind thought I abused the report button for... checks notes... reporting a post that was LITERALLY a pro-n@z¡ group denying the holocaust happened.

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seaQueue 2 points 3 years ago

There's your problem, you reported political content that Reddit's admins agreed with. Reddit has a pretty long history of company leadership skewing to the right, we joke that the dude running the show fantasizes about being a feudal lord in a post collapse world. Read about his weird prepper behavior, he's a bit off in cuckoo land.

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SocialMediaRefugee 2 points 3 years ago

I was question a covid denier. The fact I posted in their subreddit was all that was needed to get me banned.

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Gemini24601 48 points 3 years ago

I feel right at home in the fediverse, it gives me a much more secure feeling than Reddit. Thank you devs for your hard work at creating a suitable alternative.

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Limeey 18 points 3 years ago

So, on that topic of "security" - just remember that whenever you post, your post is essentially sent to every "instance" that is federated (and listening for the community you posted to). Each instance is it's own server running it's own version of an activitypub implementation (lemmy, mastadon, etc).

So on lemmy.world that means your post is sent to literally thousands of servers that you cannot directly influence. If you delete a post, a request is made to those servers to also delete the post, but if that instance is modified or unavailable when the request is sent (it'll re-try, but there's a limit how many times), then it's possible your post will not be deleted and you'll never know.

Keep in mind this also means that anyone, say a government or private company, can establish an instance, federate, and receive the posts of everyone. Their instance may be nearly completely invisible - so you won't know they're collecting that information.

However, lemmy stores and sends almost no information about any user. A user profile does not contain IP address or country or anything. All of that stays in the server logs of the instance you originate from, and never enters the database. So your "true" personal information isn't shared, but your account name, and a link to your account, and the post content (whatever text you add) is shared.

Lastly, images tend to be shared. Lemmy uses "pict-rs" which is a FOSS image hosting server, and when an instance receives a federated post, if there is an image in the "URL" field, then it will ask pict-rs to download that image to its server for easier serving to its users.

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Gemini24601 7 points 3 years ago

Great point, however, I would rather have my posts be sent to like minded peers than to some walled-garden company like Reddit. Also, what data would any supposed malicious instance get that isn’t already available to the public? As for account names, text and images from posts, etc. aren’t these the very definition of social media? What kind of social media is not sharing text or images anyway?

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Limeey 3 points 3 years ago

Yep, I don't disagree, just wanted to make it clear what is shared and what isn't. I suppose if you don't like people training AI on the text you write, then you may not like that they could gather it with literally no effort. Most other sites would require that they put some effort either into web scraping, using an api to request the post, or just buy the content in some text dump format.

But ya, I mean, this is a minor difference between platforms, overall.

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R51 33 points 3 years ago

wow, old.lemmy.world is perfection.

Very cool!

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cyberpunk007 7 points 3 years ago

😲

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psychothumbs 32 points 3 years ago

That's great, what happened in the last week or so to produce a boost?

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birb 66 points 3 years ago

Boost for Lemmy was released. Probably.

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Onewithwind 14 points 3 years ago

That's why I'm here. I used boost for reddit and stopped after the APIcalypse

I'm glad boost for Lemmy looks so similar to boost for reddit.

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danque 9 points 3 years ago

Yup Boost here and done with Reddit shitty API.

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zencat 1 point 3 years ago

Boost here as well, man this is decent

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HawlSera 39 points 3 years ago

Reddit got rid of their privacy policy

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TheCuriosity 33 points 3 years ago

Relay stopped allowing you to browse reddit for free.

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DillyDaily 13 points 3 years ago

Yup, that's why I'm here. Since sync for reddit ended, Relay was the only app I found with the accessibility settings that I need. Using sync for Lemmy, haven't tried any other apps or browsing methods yet but so far it's been great.

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Bathtubwalrus 6 points 3 years ago

Yep, That's why I've fully moved to lemmy.

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Masculinum 1 point 3 years ago
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seaQueue 25 points 3 years ago

Thanks for making the effort to host and support the community!

Ps: Boost gang! 🚀

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OtakuAltair 20 points 3 years ago

Heh, "Boost"

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kylian0087 7 points 3 years ago

Wait a seccond... good catch!

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rustyfish 20 points 3 years ago

Willkommen.

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Rolando_Cueva 1 point 3 years ago

Danke!

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xc2215x 20 points 3 years ago

Glad Lemmy is back to gaining users again.

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citrusface 6 points 3 years ago

Remember quality over quantity.

But yes, I am glad mor people are joining as well.

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Sterile_Technique 19 points 3 years ago
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Blaze 11 points 3 years ago path: 0 3967740 3968198, hotness: undefined, score: 11, children: 0
cheese_greater 0 points 3 years ago
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rip_art_bell 19 points 3 years ago

Can we get an option to hide disliked posts, please?

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lwadmin 19 points 3 years ago

What is your favorite Alternative UI? Are you using it full-time or still switch back to the default one? We want to know!

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frank 11 points 3 years ago

I've been loving Liftoff. It's completely free and ad free, feels as good as any of the "big apps" to me

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slazer2au 14 points 3 years ago

Remember to clear your cache

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frank 14 points 3 years ago

Holy, I had no idea it didn't auto clear the cache. 6 gigs! Well, thanks for that Internet stranger

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666dollarfootlong 9 points 3 years ago

I went from Jerboa to Connect and now am using Boost, which I also used in the past

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Stovetop 8 points 3 years ago
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Geert 3 points 3 years ago

That's not an alternative UI that is an app

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Stovetop 4 points 3 years ago
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Papanca 7 points 3 years ago

Usually Photon, occasionally Alexandrite or switching to the regular Lemmy interface.

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Nihilore 7 points 3 years ago

On desktop? Old “lemmy” I’m just too used to that ui

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scytale 5 points 3 years ago

For desktop, I’m now a 100% Alexandrite user. It looks great, and it actually maximizes screen real estate.

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what_is_a_name 5 points 3 years ago

Lemmy lives on my phone and iPad. So rarely venture into the web UI. But I use Voyager On my mobile devices.

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Geert 4 points 3 years ago

Alexandrite on the desktop

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APassenger 4 points 3 years ago

Sync for Lemmy. It's just super easy to do what I want - and to customize.

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CriticalMiss 4 points 3 years ago

I use Voyager. Been self-hosting it since the day the project released. On desktop I just use the default UI, fits my needs I guess.

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Obscura 3 points 3 years ago

I’ve been using Voyager (or wefwef as it used to be known) since day one here at Lemmy. Moved over from Reddit when the API changes were announced, and then any potential negotiations with Reddit and third party app developers broke down.

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superflippy 2 points 3 years ago

@Obscura I was experimenting with different apps & ended up using Voyager for my @beehaw account & Memmy for my @lemmyworld account. I know I can use one app for both, but it’s kind of convenient having two.

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Obscura 1 point 3 years ago

That’s interesting, what are the benefits of having a different app for different servers?

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superflippy 2 points 3 years ago

@Obscura From a UX point of view, it’s easier to switch between apps than to switch between accounts in a single app. Also, the different UIs give me an immediate visual cue as to which account I’m in, which keeps me from posting the wrong thing in the one with tougher moderation.

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nicolairathjen 3 points 3 years ago

Avelon on iOS, mlmym on web at the moment. Still looking for a UI that let's me show the local feed of another instance while still being signed in.

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freamon 2 points 3 years ago

I tend to use photon.lemmy.world, but it'd be really cool if I could log in to lemmy.world using tesseract. It's a fork of Photon - so I imagine it also has feature-parity with the official UI - but it's "designed for media-rich feeds and content". It's what they use at dubvee, and db0 also provides it as an alternative

I don't use the default one because it gets confused when lemmy decides to bring a gif in from an external site, and then convert it to a mp4 (it's a pretty hit-and-miss affair in the Gifs Community), though I realise it's ultimately lemmy itself that's causing the problem.

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subspaceinterferents 3 points 3 years ago

On the desk, photon.lemmy; on the mob, Boost for Lemmy. rockin'it.

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Xylight 2 points 3 years ago
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CommunityLinkFixer 1 point 3 years ago

Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn't work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !gifs@lemmy.world

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LackingC10H12N2O 1 point 3 years ago
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Sigh_Bafanada 1 point 3 years ago

I've been Connect pretty much the whole time, besides briefly trying out a few others. I was a RIF user, so Connect gives me a fairly similar experience

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DoucheBagMcSwag 18 points 3 years ago

Welcome to the Fediverse all!

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Geert 10 points 3 years ago

Username doesn't check out.

WELCOME ALL

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qaz 15 points 3 years ago

Welcome everyone 😀 !

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hermitary 13 points 3 years ago

Hello. This is my first post on Lemmy. Still trying to figure my way around.

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citrusface 4 points 3 years ago

It'll click for you soon. It's essentially a bunch of individually owned boards like reddit that are all interconnected. You can see posts from all the instances, and if you don't like the posts in one instance - you can block it or filter it out.

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hermitary 5 points 3 years ago

I hope so. I’ve actually downloaded every single iOS Lemmy app I could find and I’m going to try them all out to see which is the best fit.

I did the same thing when I joined Mastodon.

Is Lemmy compatible with ActivityPub by chance?

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can 6 points 3 years ago

Lemmy is built upon activity pub

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PM_Your_Nudes_Please 2 points 3 years ago

For apps, I tend to fluctuate between Memmy and Voyager. I liked the “feel” of Memmy more, but development on it has been slower because the dev had some personal stuff going on in their life. So I’ve switched to Voyager in the meantime.

Both are very close to Apollo though, if you used to use that.

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PM_Your_Nudes_Please 3 points 3 years ago

What made it “click” for me was when someone explained it like email addresses. You can send emails between Gmail and Yahoo Mail just fine, and two email addresses with the same username are distinguished by their @ handles. So like “Example@gmail(dot)com” is a different address than “Example@yahoo(dot)com”. They’re entirely separate accounts that can send emails to each other.

The fediverse is very similar. My account @lemmy.world is separate from the same username on another instance. And the same goes for communities. There may be communities on certain instances that naturally grow and absorb the smaller ones, but there’s nothing stopping you from making your own identical community on another instance, with its own rules, moderators, and content.

Federation is simply the process of connecting two servers together. The same way gmail and yahoo can talk to each other via a standard protocol, federation allows the different servers to talk to each other. This occasionally causes weird things when one instance federates with another, and you suddenly get flooded by posts from that new server. But that’s just your Home feed catching up, since all of those posts are now considered unread.

Federation isn’t an automatic process in the sense that new servers announce themselves and get connected automatically. Instead, federation happens when a user from one instance tries to interact with another instance. For example, maybe you have a community over in @examplecommunity(dot)com. The first time you (as a Lemmy(dot)world user) try to interact with that examplecommunity server, the two will federate and begin the process of sharing posts.

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seaQueue 2 points 3 years ago

The fediverse is a bit like email and usenet had an awesome baby. You have an address somewhere on the network and you can see and participate in content from any instance that's also connected.

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Adori 14 points 3 years ago

Didn't know bout the desktop apps, awesome!

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thatsage 13 points 3 years ago

Ha! 'boost' - I get it!

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revilo366 12 points 3 years ago
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YoBuckStopsHere 11 points 3 years ago

Welcome

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Kolanaki 11 points 3 years ago

I'm curious: How does this work if you're posting in this instance from another instance? Can I be banned? Would I be informed of a ban? Can you delete or edit my posts? I see more instsnce banned users from Lemmy.World than any other instance, and the rules don't seem to be much different than another other social site, which is concerning as looking through those banned users, I quite often can not find anything that would have broken the rules, whether it was deleted or not. Which really makes it seem like some admin or admins over here are banning people who disagree with them.

Edit: So I was just checking the modlog over at Foodporn (of which I am a mod) and noticed that most of the actions taken were an admin from Lemmy.World deleting and banning a single user who argued against eating meat. The only thing the offending user did was argue with the admin. They didn't break our rules or site rules, they just happened to engage in an argument against this admin. Definitely not a good look.

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freamon 16 points 3 years ago

You could be banned yes, because it would be https://lemmy.world/u/Kolanaki@yiffit.net that would be kicked. To see the effect of this, compare !sciencefiction@lemmy.ml with lemmy.world's version of it - https://lemmy.world/c/sciencefiction@lemmy.ml - (all the posts by banned user IzzyData@lemmy.ml are missing)

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aceshigh 4 points 3 years ago

that is fascinating.

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Crandlecan 3 points 3 years ago

I suppose I have some reading ahead of me :/

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Erdgeist 2 points 3 years ago

Please don't ban me, I don't understand anything what you are saying. The first page literally says: You can access all content in the lemmyverse from any server/instance.

That means it doesn't matter which instance you are using.

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freamon 4 points 3 years ago

Don't worry. I'm not in a position to ban anyone from anything. Sorry if it seemed otherwise - I was just warning a fellow user not to be too casual about lemmy.world's rules. As the community I linked to demonstrated, we can be on other instances, posting to communities on other instances, but if we're banned by LW, no-one on what's easily the biggest instance will see what we're saying.

As for the 'access all content' line, it should probably be 'you can access all content [that your admins allow you access]'.

It all works by every instance copying in communities that their users are interested in, and then every instance merging the results. I commented here, but I never left my server on endlesstalk.org - I commented on endlesstalk.org/c/lemmyworld@lemmy.world. Similarly, you commented on lemmings.world/c/lemmyworld@lemmy.world and now we're both seeing the merged result.
This means that, when an instance is copying something, it's free to leave out anything it doesn't like (e.g. stuff from a banned user).
You'll need to copy/paste this URL to see the difference: https://lemmy.world/c/sciencefiction@lemmy.ml is what LW users see of that community - there's a lot less there than what everyone else sees at !sciencefiction@lemmy.ml (which, for you, is lemmings.world/c/sciencefiction@lemmy.ml of course)

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wayl 10 points 3 years ago

It reminds me when the Mastodon replaced Twitter. I did my account there, then I had trouble logging in because instances don't share the logging process. Eventually my posts were lost, now I just checked and my account disappeared.

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Wayl 7 points 3 years ago

The federated paradigm and its fragmented nature has differences we need to get used to.

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JonSecadaNightRanger 3 points 3 years ago

Like being locked out and finding accounts deleted?

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Wayl 2 points 3 years ago

Account deleted. IIRC the instance disappeared for a while (mastodon.social in this case) then I couldn't login anymore. Other instances (e.g., mastodon.uno) of course don't keep my whole message history. At first I understood that communities are shared, you can post in the same community from many account (often the example of "email is federated" is used). But I'm not sure anymore. Seems the case for c/announcements, but not for many others, so you have communities which are are already little further fragmented.

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bery 6 points 3 years ago

Your account is automatically removed after a long time of inactivity

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MaxVoltage 6 points 3 years ago

bro my account got banned here. i figured it was my fault thwir server their rules, whatever. then like 3 days later i can log in again.

growing pains i suppose

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RedditEnjoyer 10 points 3 years ago

As a reddit and lemmy enjoyer, I approve this message

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doublejay1999 9 points 3 years ago

We appreciate you.

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ieightpi 9 points 3 years ago

Long live lemmy(world)!!

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ChickenLadyLovesLife 8 points 3 years ago

I was using old.lemmy.world for a while but unfortunately it seems to be a bit buggy. It's impossible to make a top-level reply on any post, and upvoting/downvoting doesn't work inside a thread. It's fine when I just feel like browsing and lurking, but a no-go when I feel like the world needs to see my gem-like commentary.

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scytale 3 points 3 years ago

Try Alexandrite. It looks more modern and the 2-panel view is very efficient.

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brawleryukon 3 points 3 years ago

It looks more modern

Not OP, but as an old.lemmy.world user myself, this is not a selling point.

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scytale 3 points 3 years ago

I mean, if by modern you mean the enshittified mobile design on a desktop, sure. What I meant was modern for actual desktop browsing. It has a great 2-panel layout that maximizes screen real estate, even better than mlym (old.lemmy). The layout is very efficient and makes it easy to browse content without the need to open multiple tabs.

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Geert 1 point 3 years ago

+1 for Alexandrite

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ArcticFalcon 7 points 3 years ago

Welcome!

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0Xero0 7 points 3 years ago

big "boost" in the amount of users? What kind of dumbass stunt did spez pull again this time?

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nicolairathjen 8 points 3 years ago

It might have to do with the release of the app "Boost for Lemmy".

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seaQueue 5 points 3 years ago

Nothing new from Fuhrer Spez - the Boost for Lemmy client had its first release and brought in a new wave of reddit refugees.

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Lennnny 5 points 3 years ago

I am one of them. Hello world!

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seaQueue 3 points 3 years ago

Boost gang 🚀

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ShitOnABrick 2 points 3 years ago

The reason why I'm here is I was permanently banned from reddit that's Possibly why alot of people decided to just hop onto lemmy and give it ago I noticed myself it's alot easier to get banned on reddit nowadays then a few months back before all this started

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0Xero0 2 points 3 years ago

I changed email to an alias called fuckspez@ and even changed the username to the same name ever since spez blackmailed 3rd party apps but I haven't been banned yet.

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MataVatnik 2 points 3 years ago

The amount of posts on the front page of Reddit that were no longer available because user was banned or broke the rules or mods just didn't like the post, is just way too much. My friend would share reddit posts with me only for me to see that they weren't available anymore. It really gets in the way of the experience. Also I had so many posts removed without explanation, or in some cases, with the mods insulting me.

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ShitOnABrick 0 points 3 years ago

I never had mods just out right insult me although after making a post on r/holup which got 700 upvotes before getting the post getting closed down by mods I did get an private message from a new user which was a bit iffy can't remember the exact message this was 8 or 9 months ago or smth like that I think I must've pissed off an mod on r/holup to a certain extent for them to look for any slip ups which there were plenty off

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Clerkle -1 points 3 years ago
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Blaze 6 points 3 years ago

Thank you for this, welcome everyone!

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xmclark 5 points 3 years ago

I still call voyager, “wefwef” and it’s the subdomain I still use.

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flubba86 3 points 3 years ago

Me too. The PWA icon label on my phone still says wefwef.

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LackingC10H12N2O 2 points 3 years ago

I'm not sure where to post my question, it's more of a general question rather than something specific that belongs in support@lemmy.world so I'll just ask here.

I have read the guide for new users and similar posts but couldn't find anything that addresses it.

I somewhat understand the distributed nature of the fediverse, but my question is: how does it differ from reddit in terms of eventually a small handful of people will create all the most popular subreddits (or communities here), consolidate power, and turn it into a dictatorship like reddit.

That was one of the main problems on reddit, where like 25 power mods ran every single popular sub.

Apologies if this has been asked before or if it's the wrong place, I did look around and try to find an answer..

Thanks.

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BlackXanthus 6 points 3 years ago

However, unlike Reddit, there's alternatives. You might not like the community on @lemmy.world, but you might like the community on @anotherlemmythatmight.exist.

Because of the federated nature, communities will naturally fracture and focus. Here, a bad faith mod will just kill a community on instance a, and people will move to instance b.

We've already seen things happen like this under the banner of 'free speech', where people believe that free speech means free from consequences. If you think that, there are plenty of instances out there. Lemmy.world isn't one of them.

This means that you can find your favourite community in places with different server rules. Which means it will be the community - the people, the mods, the knowledge, that grows one, not just the fact the names taken.

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LackingC10H12N2O 2 points 3 years ago

Hmm, interesting, thanks for that!

I only joined lemmy.world because it was the first one on the list in the tutorial I read when setting this up. I'm still brand new here and trying to figure out how this all works.

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seaQueue 4 points 3 years ago

I somewhat understand the distributed nature of the fediverse, but my question is: how does it differ from reddit in terms of eventually a small handful of people will create all the most popular subreddits (or communities here), consolidate power, and turn it into a dictatorship like reddit.

That's something any community needs to be on the lookout for, I wouldn't assume the worst just yet. Lemmy is entirely community driven, if governance is a concern then get involved in governance and see what you can help with.

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rezz 1 point 3 years ago path: 0 4381007, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 0
spacegoat 1 point 3 years ago

Question, is there any plan to implement/compatibility issue with VPNs and Lemmy? Sorry if this has been answered before; I figured this was a good place to ask. I am seeing more and more sites break with VPNs.

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jeena 2 points 3 years ago

Is there anything specific which nreaks on lemmy when you're on a VPN?

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aeharding 1 point 3 years ago
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LongPigFlavor 0 points 3 years ago

I'm going to be honest, I'm probably not going stay on lemmy for much longer. It's just the few toxic members ruining for the majority couple with the extreme political polarization. Some people turn benign discourse into heated arguments and argue in bad faith and some leave mean spirited or nasty comments without provocation. Those are the things that I do not miss from Reddit. I've already blocked a few people, but that's not something that Iike to do, but such is life.

If I were to describe it in a simple way I'd say it feels very anti-normie.

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seaQueue 15 points 3 years ago

I just tag people who argue in bad faith with a note and avoid engaging with them in the future. Don't let a few assholes ruin an entire community for you.

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c0mbatbag3l 3 points 3 years ago

Like the place is run by elitists, yeah.

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seaQueue 11 points 3 years ago

The nice thing about lemmy is that if you don't agree with how a particular instance is run you can always find another that's more your speed. That isn't really an option on any other social media network.

I've definitely run into some assholes on the platform who can't separate the user from the idea but by and large it's a step up from Reddit.

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Olmai 1 point 3 years ago
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LongPigFlavor 2 points 3 years ago

I do hope to stay, but if I were to leave, I'd just stop using social media as a whole or use it very seldomly.

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keryxa -2 points 3 years ago
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scottywh -3 points 3 years ago
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HKayn 3 points 3 years ago

An eye for an eye will make the whole world blind, that's why.

And a clever comeback will always sting much more than primitive insults.

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scottywh 0 points 3 years ago

I disagree.

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HKayn 2 points 3 years ago

You're free to do so.

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scottywh 0 points 3 years ago

No shit, Sherlock.

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Kolanaki 3 points 3 years ago

You should be the bigger person and ignore their bullshit because this isn't kindergarten and you're, presumably, an adult.

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scottywh 0 points 3 years ago

I disagree.

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SaladevX 2 points 3 years ago

That is the beauty of the fediverse. You can go to whichever insurance you want, whenever you want.

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Dr_Wu -1 points 3 years ago
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Mateja23 -4 points 3 years ago

Are there any free speech instances?

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bababatman -5 points 3 years ago

Well, conspiracy theories? That's a pretty broad brush right there. Saying the virus originated in the Wuhan lab, or that it was even bioengineered at all was a "conspiracy theory" that got a lot of people banned from all kinds of forums.

Saying that conspiracy theories means artificial birds and flat earth is simply saying that any ideas that you think can be labeled as "conspiracy theories" are just as stupid. But that is not the case.

Even saying that the US provoked the war in Ukraine is probably so thing bannable according to your logic.

Reeks of gatekeeping to me.

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bery 1 point 3 years ago

Agreed, there's quite a bit of gatekeeping, but I don't think it's because of malicious intent. I feel like the line for what is a damaging conspiracy and what isn't is quite blurry and hard to even think of, so I imagine whoever wrote that rule didn't really think that deeply about it.

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Teppichbrand 2 points 3 years ago

It's not THAT blurry :)

Conspiracy

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bery 1 point 3 years ago

I mean, you're right. It's not really blurry. It just takes more than 0 effort to think of it and I'm guessing whoever made that rule didn't give it a single thought, really.

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duviobaz -7 points 3 years ago

I got banned because i criticized your usage of Discord. No one should create an account on this instance.

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Tarquinn2049 11 points 3 years ago

That sounds kind of like "your opinion" of what you got banned for. I would imagine it was more about "how" you disagreed.

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duviobaz -4 points 3 years ago path: 0 3971843 3972433 3981139, hotness: undefined, score: -4, children: 4
HKayn 3 points 3 years ago

Yeah, I doubt this is the whole story.

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duviobaz 0 points 3 years ago

It really is. I received this ban immediately after i commented this complaint. In the modlog it said that i gor banned because i was a "troll". There was no other comment or anything else this ban could have referred to.

An hour ago the mods even realized their mistake and unbanned me. But im staying here on blahaj.

https://ibb.co/album/48dtWJ

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JokeDeity -11 points 3 years ago

For anyone looking for free speech friendly instances, don't worry, they exist, you can even cuss like a big boy. Join us.

That being said I am a proponent of defederating from obvious troll farms like hexbear and Lemmygrad.

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CarbonatedPastaSauce 17 points 3 years ago

I can tell you didn’t even read the fucking code of conduct page.

It doesn’t say a goddamn thing about cursing.

Mostly it boils down to not being hateful or attacking people.

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scottywh -1 points 3 years ago

I don't know that I'd agree that "name calling" is necessarily "hateful" or "attacking people".

Sometimes people behave like dumb fucking cunts and I don't see why we shouldn't be allowed to tell them that.

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JokeDeity 1 point 3 years ago

Or even jokes. My friends and I call each other some truly heinous stuff with nothing but love behind the words, lol.

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cheese_greater 8 points 3 years ago

Pretty sure you can "cuss" more places than not unless you're using it to hurt people. It should be a spice, not the main course.

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JokeDeity -6 points 3 years ago

I'm not and feel free to browse my content history, but I'm also not afraid of someone calling me a bitch online, lol.

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cheese_greater 1 point 3 years ago

Nah, I'm sure you're a good lad :) Besides, ain't nobody got time for that ⌚️

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cheese_greater 1 point 3 years ago
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scottywh 4 points 3 years ago

I'm not sure Lemm.ee is as "free speech" as you seem to think it is either though.

They also have rules against "personal attacks" and "abusive language"... Kind of vague if you ask me.

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JokeDeity 0 points 3 years ago

Oh yeah, totally, this isn't my only account, but it was the first one I made. It hasn't been an issue for me because I'm not personally going around harassing people, but I am still not on the side of heavy censorship and I don't think this war social media has been on will ever succeed in creating the bubble room world they seem to want. People will always talk with emotion and use vibrant language no matter how much they try to create a squeaky clean Internet.

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scottywh 1 point 3 years ago

Right on... I only have accounts on lemmy.world and lemm.ee so far personally.

Curious what instance you're on that is less censored though.

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JokeDeity 0 points 3 years ago

Well the porn centric ones are obvious to point too but I haven't really used them much because it's kind of more hassle than it's worth to browse porn on Lemmy or Reddit. I'm not versed in every instances rules but I've heard there are more free speech oriented instances. Proudly announcing heavy censorship rubs me entirely the wrong way. I think perhaps I read shitworks was pretty lax on censorship? I primarily use this account but have several in case I get a bad taste from any given instance. For instance if I get colorful and describe something the government here does as "retarded", I don't mind being called out for it by users, but removing my comment would be me instantly jumping ship to another account on another instance.

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