This concept for budget double decker airline seating

3 years ago by The Picard Maneuver to c/mildlyinfuriating

Stamets 201 points 3 years ago
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Dasnap 67 points 3 years ago

"We'll just put the disabled passengers in the cargo hold. Problem solved."

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Semi-Hemi-Demigod 13 points 3 years ago

If I pretend to be disabled can I fly there too?

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squiblet 1 point 3 years ago

free sedation! *with service charge

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Semi-Hemi-Demigod 3 points 3 years ago

I'll pay extra for good drugs

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Tolookah 10 points 3 years ago

... I could fly with my dog then? (I've not traveled with her, because being alone in the cargo sounds like a torment I would not wish on anyone). But if I can be there, too, that's a whole other scenario

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SzethFriendOfNimi 52 points 3 years ago

Not to mention safety requirements for rapidly escaping a plane in the event of an emergency

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Buddahriffic -14 points 3 years ago

Though tbf, with planes how often do emergencies fall between the "it's dangerous to stay here" and "you can get off the plane safely if you're quick" thresholds? I'd think that due to their nature, most situations will either be "no rush" or "not much we can do about it now". Things like emergency exits seem more like safety theatre than anything else IMO.

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SzethFriendOfNimi 24 points 3 years ago

Actually fires and rapid departure are a big deal.

Overall here’s a great video going over how important this whole process is.

https://youtu.be/8BlEMx67h6E

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Buddahriffic 6 points 3 years ago

Interesting video thanks for the info!

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BlameThePeacock 29 points 3 years ago

They only put them down the center with regular seats along the windows.

First class, second class, cargo class.

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Stamets 18 points 3 years ago
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Railing5132 2 points 3 years ago

These will not see the light of day until the industry coughs up enough money to buy off enough legislation oversight to make the FAA egress rules "agreeable".

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squiblet 28 points 3 years ago

Imagine trying to evacuate in a rush. Also, deep vein thrombosis.

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agressivelyPassive 16 points 3 years ago

If you can't afford business class seats, are you even worth saving?

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thepianistfroggollum 5 points 3 years ago

Dvt would likely be less of an issue with your legs out vs bent at the knee. Less gravity for your heart to fight against.

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dingus 4 points 3 years ago

DVT is an issue if you're immobile for any decent length of time. Your position doesn't really matter too much. That's why they want you up and walking immediately as soon as possible after a surgery and why they will often put patients with an extended stay in the hospital on blood thinners.

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squiblet 2 points 3 years ago

True, though it would be horrifically uncomfortable to be forced to sit like that for 4 hours without the ability to shift positions.

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DancingIsForbidden 5 points 3 years ago
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The_Picard_Maneuver 5 points 3 years ago

God, that's totally true. I can't imagine how they would try to make that work.

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cholesterol 101 points 3 years ago

This seems incompatible with a pretty high proportion of Americans.

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TheDarkKnight 38 points 3 years ago

Y'all getting kinda thicc too, no offense.

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Cryophilia 23 points 3 years ago

It's funny because you don't know which country he's from but it still applies anyway because everyone is getting fatter

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dingus 21 points 3 years ago

Relevant username

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qyron 5 points 3 years ago

Tremendously incompatible, if 1/10 of what is portraid on movies is true.

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jabathekek 3 points 3 years ago

Extra cushioning for crashes, just have to wear a xxxl diaper.

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Naja_kaouthia 92 points 3 years ago

With your face right at prime fart receiving level. Wtf.

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magnetosphere 33 points 3 years ago

Even for the people who would get off on that, their joy would turn to frustration when the flight attendant asked them to stop masturbating.

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Daft_ish 5 points 3 years ago

Middle seat would have enough time to finish before they could stop you.

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NatakuNox 2 points 3 years ago

This guy right here officer

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Nouveau_Burnswick 26 points 3 years ago

The Pink Eye Express.

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Kolanaki 7 points 3 years ago

Sounds like a real gas, man.

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wooki 0 points 3 years ago

Someone shits their pants. Good god

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TheGiantKorean 66 points 3 years ago
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tigeruppercut 25 points 3 years ago

Multipass!

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Shanedino 12 points 3 years ago

Honestly it's like teleporting then so I'm on board.

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CmdrShepard 11 points 3 years ago

They could just tip the nose of the plane 90 degrees in the air and then have a slide or funnel that dumps you into the fuselage. You'll just want to be sure to buy first-class tickets so that you'll be at the top of the pile.

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rbos 3 points 3 years ago

Get a tamper to pack em in a little

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lazylion_ca 6 points 3 years ago

A la Fifth Element.

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tea 4 points 3 years ago

Why did they say if like it was a bad thing? I want this to be a thing.

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ReallyActuallyFrankenstein 5 points 3 years ago

If you stack people alternating head-first, feet-first, head-first, they will tesselate much better. Airlines eventually won't be able to resist the profit margin.

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thepianistfroggollum 61 points 3 years ago

I don't absolutely hate it, but I'm 6'3", so fully stretching my legs out on a plane is always just a pipe dream.

I'm sure they'd make them fit only average size people, unfortunately.

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Cqrd 12 points 3 years ago

Do you see how that lady’s feet are? They’re probably up against a wall, and I don’t think she’s 6’3”

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AeroLemming 3 points 3 years ago
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MorrisonMotel6 8 points 3 years ago

Same height, same dreams.

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Selmafudd 2 points 3 years ago

As another tall person my knees ache just looking at this photo

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macrocephalic 49 points 3 years ago

I think they should just have rows of bunk beds. It's much easier to stack something flat than people with their awkward bends at the hips and knees.

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Swedneck 51 points 3 years ago

unsurprisingly the ship and train industry figured this shit out like literally a century ago

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Rhaedas 22 points 3 years ago path: 0 4608708 4609017, hotness: undefined, score: 22, children: 1
wahming 7 points 3 years ago path: 0 4608708 4609017 4611494, hotness: undefined, score: 7, children: 0
OceanSoap 9 points 3 years ago

God, I would love that. I can't sleep sitting up, even when I'm really tired. Long plane rides are torture.

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superfes 46 points 3 years ago

Window seat dude needs to take a piss, watch the fun ...

Also, why the fuck is she smiling?!

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BlameThePeacock 41 points 3 years ago

I think these only go down the center based on the photo.

She's smiling because she's being paid to smile.

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dustyData 12 points 3 years ago

Acting!

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DuncanIdaho 46 points 3 years ago
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spittingimage 45 points 3 years ago

One day they'll invent super-economy class where you just get strapped to the wings and released over your destination. Parachutes will cost extra.

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trash80 5 points 3 years ago
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tdawg 2 points 3 years ago

Nah they just charge you for not flying

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uis 1 point 3 years ago

But what it they will hi-jack engine?

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Jimmycrackcrack 4 points 3 years ago

At least there'd finally be room.

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PoetSII 40 points 3 years ago

I think whoever thought of this concept should die

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OsrsNeedsF2P 4 points 3 years ago

Eh. Fewer passengers per plane is worse for the environment, and lying down is great for people with back problems. I can see the pluses.

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Xenon 37 points 3 years ago path: 0 4613452, hotness: undefined, score: 37, children: 20
garibaldi_biscuit 10 points 3 years ago

Where are the overhead baggage bins? No carry-on bags? If they go in the hold, how do you make it bigger?

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Revonult 7 points 3 years ago

This design is similar but not the same as OG post. Although still shitty, its quite an improvement over the orgional.

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jabathekek 1 point 3 years ago

Those steps DEFINITELY aren't a safety hazard.

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Furbag -6 points 3 years ago

The newer version from the link looks less bad than this picture, but still dystopian as fuck. We need to make airline travel cheaper somehow rather than having the airline industry come up with their own ideas to try and pack people in like cattle.

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Holzkohlen 12 points 3 years ago

Cheaper? What kinda crack are you smoking? Shit is destroying the planet, it needs to be a LOT more expensive.

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Furbag 4 points 3 years ago

Uh, you know, it is possible to care about two things at once. Wanting airline travel to be cheaper/more comfortable and also less environmentally unfriendly are not mutually exclusive positions.

As others have pointed out, making it more expensive isn't going to get rid of air travel, it'll just be reserved for the ultra-wealthy who will not give a damn either way.

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gohixo9650 4 points 3 years ago

what kind of crack are YOU smoking? So practically "banning" poor people for traveling anywhere further than 500km than their hometown is the solution? And allow rich people go on as usual?

The not-wealthy will be the only ones affected by this. Business people were traveling since the birth of the aviation and will continue travelling. This will be just an increased cost in their cost planning.

So if you're rich you're allowed to destroy the planet. If you're poor stay at home, the planet is in danger.

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Cryophilia 3 points 3 years ago

We could subsidize biofuels. Just spitballing.

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Cethin 2 points 3 years ago

I agree, but it's mostly the Uber wealthy, not regular travelers. It's bad, but it's not that bad. Using a whole plane to carry one or two people is horrible though.

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HardlightCereal -6 points 3 years ago

You get points for being an environmentalist but lose points for accusing any differing opinion of being the result of drug use. That cliche is often used on autistic people to attack them for thinking differently. You should try making your point without cliches.

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melooone 4 points 3 years ago

I don't think he meant that literally.

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Cryophilia -2 points 3 years ago
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rchive 2 points 3 years ago

This extra passenger density would make it cheaper per person, right? More fuel efficient, too.

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Furbag 1 point 3 years ago

Looking over my original post, perhaps my phrasing wasn't clear. Yes, this is one way to decrease costs, but it comes at the expense of comfort. Airline companies are no stranger to this process, and have been rolling out new methods of packing as many passengers onto a plane as physically possible since the very first commercial airplanes took flight.

Awkward and regressive ideas like this, where the airlines are contemplating stacking people in uncomfortable looking double-decker seating to save precious inches of space are only coming out now because no significant strides have been made in making air travel less expensive to operate as a whole. It is always going to be easier to shave off a few inches of legroom and pack in another row of seating in the next generation of jet airliner than it is to invent a new type of jet fuel that is cheaper and burns cleaner without sacrificing performance, or developing a new more efficient fuselage that can fly just as far as a conventional plane while carrying less fuel, etc.

It would be nice to see air travel improve for a change, rather than continue to get worse and worse over time out of necessity.

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Fedizen 33 points 3 years ago

imagine this plane crashing.

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dangblingus 8 points 3 years ago

Just like all plane crashes, everyone would die.

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jaywalker 9 points 3 years ago

Not sure if you're just joking, but plenty of people survive plane crashes. Most crashes aren't just a plane falling out of the sky at full speed. Survival rates are around 95%.

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Mirshe 3 points 3 years ago

Generally speaking, plane crashes are like train crashes. Either most everyone survives, or most everyone dies pretty quickly, with very little in between.

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nslatz 6 points 3 years ago

Imagine this plane with a fire on board before takeoff and now the unfit overweight masses have to evacuate.

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jeebus 4 points 3 years ago

Imagine a new meaning to the phrase "upper decker".

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janus2 31 points 3 years ago

at that point just give me general anaesthesia and put me in an airline shipping coffin so at least i don't have to be conscious for the horror show

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The_Picard_Maneuver 17 points 3 years ago

Someone somewhere just pulled out some graph paper and is sketching a concept.

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metallic_substance 7 points 3 years ago

12 hour flight. The fail-safes fail. Something goes wrong with the anesthesia and you're awake for the entire thing

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janus2 3 points 3 years ago

I woke up in the middle of my wisdom teeth surgery so I of all people oughtta know better lol

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Carighan 2 points 3 years ago

Still better hab Ryanair!

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afraid_of_zombies 2 points 3 years ago

I fly often for work, stay up the whole night before and cannabis. Flying is easy now.

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Kase 31 points 3 years ago

As someone who doesn't have claustrophobia, I feel claustrophobic just looking at this. Then again, I've never been on a plane before, and for all I know this might be better :/

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vinyl 8 points 3 years ago

I had very bad claustrophobia the time I got rolled in a carpet with only my head sticking out or the time I got closed in a trunk. Flew around 12 times on airplanes and they are mostly just uncomfortable and annoying. Maybe I grew out of it 🤷

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roguetrick 12 points 3 years ago

Are you a cartoon or something?

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vinyl 1 point 3 years ago

Huh?

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roguetrick 7 points 3 years ago

Getting locked in a trunk and rolled up into a carpet with your head sticking out just sounds like someone Wile e coyote would count as normal life experiences. Bonus points if you hopped away off screen after getting rolled in the carpet.

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The_Picard_Maneuver 7 points 3 years ago

Who keeps abducting you?!

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A_Random_Idiot 6 points 3 years ago

I think theres just so much shit going on in an airplane that the brain short circuits and doesnt think about the fact that you are in a disturbingly thin walled, air sealed aluminium can hurtling through the sky at 800+kph with a hundred other people, most of whom dont have the common sense the gods gave a common rock, and are riddled with disease that you are no doubt being exposed to due to being crammed in like sardines.

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vinyl 1 point 3 years ago

I agree it sucks but most of the time I am just hoping that the plane doesn't crash, and I am a pretty anxious person, other than that my headphones are in and I'm either listening to music or watching a something and looking out the window :p

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BlackVenom 6 points 3 years ago

The leg room is better but scooting into the window seat will be slightly harder. Hard telling if you can put your feet down in this set up though.

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Cethin 5 points 3 years ago

The leg room is different, but it isn't better. There's about the same amount of usable space. I'd prefer the classic chair setup I think.

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Obi 4 points 3 years ago

Just looks way too low clearance. Can't put up your knees, can't put one leg over the other, can't lay on the side. Who can keep their legs straight like this for 10h. If it had like double the clearance I'd love this.

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Cethin 1 point 3 years ago

Alternatively, have it totally flat under some chairs maybe? Have the option for a bed or a chair basically.

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possiblylinux127 30 points 3 years ago

That doesn't actually look to bad considering what we have today

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Cqrd 28 points 3 years ago

Right at fart smelling level

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Afghaniscran 15 points 3 years ago

In a sealed pressurised container I'd assume fart smelling was mandatory.

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Smytty 28 points 3 years ago

She's smiling, so you know it's all okay

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jabathekek 3 points 3 years ago

don't think of the farts don't think of the farts don't think of the farts don't think of the farts don't think of the farts

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kamen 27 points 3 years ago

Why does she look so happy?

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Duamerthrax 29 points 3 years ago

Paid model or executive. They're trying to sell the concept.

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kamen 1 point 3 years ago

Yeah, I would assume so. It was kind of a rhetorical question - this looks very much staged.

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A_Random_Idiot 14 points 3 years ago

she has a secret fetish for strangers powering farts directly into her face while being confined so tightly as to feel buried alive.

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madprocessor 12 points 3 years ago
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Cryophilia 8 points 3 years ago

Better be because her ticket from Seoul to San Francisco was just $35

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postmateDumbass 2 points 3 years ago

She eats ass.

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Zink 26 points 3 years ago

These people smile like they've never rode in an airplane with more than 3 people

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Swedneck 24 points 3 years ago

"why do people prefer trains??"

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Potatos_are_not_friends 30 points 3 years ago

Honestly I wish that was the case in the US.

For most people, trains are not a alternative.

Often trains cost more. Many train stations are messes and share space with busses.

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tdawg 22 points 3 years ago

I desperately want to take a train anywhere. BUT

A) It always costs at least as much as a plane but often much much more

B) it's slower than driving!

C) the stops are so limited you basically have to follow major coastal cities or you're SOL

Literally if any of these three things were changed I would take weekend trips all the time

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jabathekek 2 points 3 years ago

mah tax dollars ain't gunna buy some socialist transport system!

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bustrpoindextr 1 point 3 years ago

The one time I took a train for a mid range distance, it cost like $250. That being said, I didn't have to drive through NYC traffic, deal with tolls, or deal with parking and had a lot of room to myself.

But it was also slow and $250 from Philly to NYC? Buhhhhh probably wouldn't again lol

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uis 9 points 3 years ago

Because they are in better part of the world(EU)

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jabathekek 1 point 3 years ago

*cries in Canadian

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cyborganism 23 points 3 years ago

No, wait. This is actually not a bad idea.

Look closely. First of all there's a rigid barrier between the lower and upper seat. That means that fart gasses won't get through, unlike current seats where farts just spread everywhere around a person, so only the upper seats will be affected.

Second, the lady has her feet up, meaning she has enough leg room to do so. This is a big advantage because you can kick your feet up on your underseat baggage while you sleep or stretch your legs. It's much better than the current layout where you can barely move at all.

No offense, but I think anyone with a negative opinion of this layout is wrong.

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DrMango 13 points 3 years ago

The lady isn't choosing to "have her feet up," she is essentially sitting on the floor and forced into the L shape by the rigid structure around her. There's still incredibly little range of motion just like a regular seat, except now with the added danger of a much more difficult emergency evacuation, especially for people with limited mobility.

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GlendatheGayWitch 3 points 3 years ago

And for people with blood clots! Locking your knees prevents blood flow and can get those clots forming faster.

Since locking your knees while standing makes you pass out, I wonder if locking your knees while seated also makes you pass out.

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cyborganism 2 points 3 years ago

I don't think so. But it's hard to tell from this perspective.

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drivepiler 2 points 3 years ago path: 0 4633378 4640517 4649439 4701645, hotness: undefined, score: 2, children: 1
cyborganism 2 points 3 years ago

Amazing! Thank you!

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drivepiler 1 point 3 years ago

She actually is not.

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NightAuthor 11 points 3 years ago

Also, I'm imagining that there isn't a wall right in front of her face, as this angle suggests. But rather, there is a bit of a cavity tucked up under the top seat. Oh, yeah... found an image. It does still look a little claustrophobic in there.

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Riven 6 points 3 years ago

Yea that dude looks thin and average height and uncomfortable. I'm 230 6ft with some muscle. I'm gonna feel like a sardine.

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ehisthenewmeh 7 points 3 years ago

Well, don't you already?

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intensely_human 1 point 3 years ago

Who doesn't?

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drivepiler 1 point 3 years ago

You can get one of the top seats, and I'll slither down into the bottom seats.

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cyborganism 3 points 3 years ago

Oh cool! It's actually not so bad. I wouldn't mind.

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TWeaK 0 points 3 years ago

Hitting that board in a crash is probably going to be worse than hitting the back of a single chair.

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zipzoopaboop 9 points 3 years ago

Claustrophobia. It's an absolutely fucking not from me, dawg

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naticus 5 points 3 years ago

My biggest problem with the space is that if I had to sit with my legs out like that, I'd eventually cramp up and inevitably bang my knees on the chair above.

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PixxlMan 5 points 3 years ago

I suspect the angle might make the space look smaller too, it's possible that the wall actually extends a bit out without being solid inside

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TWeaK 3 points 3 years ago

She's also fully reclined her seat. So maybe if her seat was upright it would be easier for people to get in and out.

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ILikeBoobies 3 points 3 years ago

An issue with this is getting up mid flight

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azurekevin 3 points 3 years ago

How so? You just push the seat back and get out, it'll be about as much of an issue as a normal (very cramped) seat.

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ILikeBoobies 2 points 3 years ago

I was thinking for the window seat

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LifeOfChance 1 point 3 years ago

This is marketing meaning if this ever actually came to market (and it won't) they would immediately begin adjusting it to reclaim even more room causing cramping with each new redesign. People are very easily conditioned so years after this became a thing and multiple redesigns later people would only just be beginning to realize it has already happened and even then nothing would change because the general public won't do anything while a select few will complain and make no impact.

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qevlarr 22 points 3 years ago path: 0 4617376, hotness: undefined, score: 22, children: 8
Wogi 6 points 3 years ago

People see these stupid concepts and forget that air travel is pretty strictly regulated.

There's really not much room to squeeze more seats in and also appease regulators.

Which doesn't mean it won't get worse, they'll capture the regulating agencies and then it'll get worse.

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GenesisJones -3 points 3 years ago

There is also NO REGULATION that demands airlines actually provide a chair. If they can find something that passes the rules that do exist, that fits more people because it isn't a chair, and that they think people will suffer through, they will do it.

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Wogi 7 points 3 years ago

My man, you're required to be seated and buckled during takeoff and landing.

You may be thinking of minimum seat size requirements, which has been on ongoing battle for at least the last 5 years, and it seems the FAA isn't required to come up with minimum safe dimensions of a seat, so long as the aircraft can be evacuated in 90 seconds or fewer.

There are some carve outs for very specific cases but right now, and for the foreseeable future, airlines must have seats.

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NightAuthor 1 point 3 years ago

Yeah, I'm reminded of that rollercoaster style semi-dangling legs seat. It gets everyone more vertical, so they can fit more rows in.

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GenesisJones 0 points 3 years ago

Please point to a 14 cfr reg that states that being buckled must be in a seat. 14 CFR 121.311 outlines 121 carriers and seat, harnesses, etc.

Please pay special attention to the fact that every time a place to sit is mentioned it says SEAT OR BERTH. There is no requirement for it to be a seat.

Of particular note is that the FAA says "an approved seat or berth." There has not been an explicit exclusion of "non seats". Meaning that any airline can configure a cabin as they see fit and if they can convince the FAA that it's okay, then it can be implemented.

The rules refer to "approved seats or berths" as seats as the language progresses and they start to detail exclusions and exceptions, but again, this does not exclude something that conventionally isn't a chair from being labeled as an approved "seat"

https://www.insider.com/...

There is an example, notice how they still refer to them as seats. My point isn't that it will or won't happen. My point is that the language doesn't outlaw it as currently written. And you're wrong for trying to say otherwise.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/14/121.311

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DancingIsForbidden 21 points 3 years ago
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timkenhan 3 points 3 years ago

As someone from Indonesia: Have some stinky beans! And also durian!

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DancingIsForbidden 2 points 3 years ago
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afraid_of_zombies 1 point 3 years ago

I am fairly certain it is illegal to bring durian on a flight leaving that part of the world. Last hotel I stayed at in Chaing Mai they had a 5000 bhat fine for durian in the room.

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Sir_Simon_Spamalot 1 point 3 years ago
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Treczoks 19 points 3 years ago

There are laws regulating how to transport pigs and cows to the slaughterhouse. They have more space than the passengers on this plane.

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AgentGrimstone 17 points 3 years ago

Can they guarantee it won't collapse and break my legs?

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ILikeBoobies 12 points 3 years ago

I would hope that the people designing airplanes can accommodate the weight of a person

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DudeDudenson 5 points 3 years ago

You mean the accountants? They get final say on everything these days

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The_Picard_Maneuver 5 points 3 years ago

It depends on who's sitting in the upper seats.

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ydieb 17 points 3 years ago

As a taller person, if this gives me sufficient legroom and a seat that actually distributes the weight over my whole thighs such that I can sit somewhat comfortable, this seems like a major upgrade to me.

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AnxiousOtter 6 points 3 years ago
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macrocephalic 3 points 3 years ago

It's a flying soda can; in the event of a serious accident you're likely to lose your head.

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MorrisonMotel6 3 points 3 years ago

They shouldn't be too hard to find though

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EinfachUnersetzlich 2 points 3 years ago

You're even more likely to die.

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trk 3 points 3 years ago

Totally agree. Having recently done 13 hours in economy, the fact my knees are constantly wedged against something and I can't straighten out is the biggest discomfort. I don't speak Italian so I don't need acres of room to swing my arms around, lift the person in front up and give me leg room instead!

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wander1236 17 points 3 years ago path: 0 4604704, hotness: undefined, score: 17, children: 0
ultratiem 16 points 3 years ago

The sadness really hits when you see this was last year, and not 1991 where the concept should have stayed.

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AceQuorthon 16 points 3 years ago

Transatlantic human cattle

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CosmicCleric 15 points 3 years ago

We're getting dangerously close to how they packed the slaves in the cargo holds of ships for transport across the ocean.

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themusicman 9 points 3 years ago

Um... no? A voluntary half-day voyage in comfortable seats is not even nearly comparable to the inhuman horrors experienced on slave ships. There is absolutely nothing dangerous about this.

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CosmicCleric 2 points 3 years ago

Um… no? A voluntary half-day voyage in comfortable seats is not even nearly comparable to the inhuman horrors experienced on slave ships.

Way to overthink it, damn. That was meant as a comedic anecdote, not as a literal comparison.

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Agent641 4 points 3 years ago

Im a huge fan of the 5th element strat. Slide me into a pod and render me unconcious with gas. It solves so many problems - entertaing self in flight, listening to the bodily functions of strangers, crying babies. Airlines would save millions on meals not served and stewards not serving them. It even solves security concerns, terrorists cant hijack a plane when they are unconcious and locked in a pod.

And if the worst happens, and the plane has a case of engine-rich-exhaust and is hurtling down into the freezing southern ocean, I really dont wanna know about it. Just let Posiden take me in my sleep.

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Piecemakers3Dprints -4 points 3 years ago

Frankly, I'm more surprised to see that the same people who have trouble spelling "rogue" and "tongue" also can't spell "lounge"... or use auto spellcheck

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KairuByte 13 points 3 years ago

Yall need to stop posting these, they are never going to happen. Neither these, nor the partially standing ones.

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dingus 4 points 3 years ago

The fact that these concepts are even made to begin with is the concerning part. Someone out there is on board.

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AnxiousOtter 3 points 3 years ago
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Cryan24 13 points 3 years ago
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perishthethought 13 points 3 years ago

On the chaise longue, On the chaise longue, On the chaise longue, all day long.

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_stranger_ 1 point 3 years ago

I heard this song for the first time yesterday, that's so weird.

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perishthethought 1 point 3 years ago

Ah good. The hivemind is functioning as intended.

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sagrotan 11 points 3 years ago

Chaise longue, french for claustrophobia

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jaykay 10 points 3 years ago

This is really, REALLY stupid

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lemann 7 points 3 years ago

Those three passengers are sure to have some great bonding time down there in that claustrophobic space 🤦‍♂️

Please, seat companies, stop giving the airlines ideas!

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The_Picard_Maneuver 2 points 3 years ago

You don't want to blindly stick your feet into that dark underseat compartment.

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deleted 7 points 3 years ago

Id prefer to lay down.

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Semi-Hemi-Demigod 3 points 3 years ago

If I could fly in a coffin in the baggage section I’d be so much more comfortable.

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Veedem 7 points 3 years ago

Passengers and their god damn legs always being in the way.

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winterayars 6 points 3 years ago

"If you didn't want the mandatory double amputation you should've upgraded to comfort plus."

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DemBoSain 7 points 3 years ago

How big is this cabin? I can't stand up in current seats now, where in the world are these going to fit? Where do carry-ons go?

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pinkdrunkenelephants 7 points 3 years ago

We need to go back to pre-9/11 plane organization.

This is just wrong.

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Krachsterben 2 points 3 years ago

Also the fact that planes these days are slower and travel times longer than 30 or 40 years ago. This makes the above seating arrangement even worse for long distance flights.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/...

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dvoraqs 6 points 3 years ago

The planes are more fuel efficient at certain speeds slower than their max speed. It's not just cost savings for the airlines, but savings for the earth.

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TheGoldenGod 6 points 3 years ago

Based on the angle, it looks like the person on the bottom could end up having some repeatedly farting in their face…

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postmateDumbass 6 points 3 years ago

Extra discount fare if you eat ass.

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cupcakezealot 6 points 3 years ago

pretty sure that's just called steerage

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intensely_human 1 point 3 years ago

steerage, stowage, storage I swear you're just trying to mess with us at this point

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Osa-Eris-Xero512 3 points 3 years ago

Honestly, you hook me up with an HMD, mouse, and keyboard and i would be down for it.

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roguetrick 3 points 3 years ago

I'm 6'6". My ass would be halfway up the seat.

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dan1101 2 points 3 years ago

Diabolical!

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Porka_911 2 points 3 years ago

The whole notion defeats the point. The extra passengers / profit will be negated by the larger fuselage and drag.

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Porka_911 -1 points 3 years ago

Now make them both bigger to allow for double stacking.

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Eudaimonia 1 point 3 years ago

This honestly looks like a win win situation to me

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twinnie 1 point 3 years ago

This actually looks like in a normal position the seat would be further back and give you a normal amount of face room. Looks like it’s on its way down to a lying position.

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Xenon 1 point 3 years ago

Idk why everyone acts like this would be some sort of travesty. If higher seating capacity through innovative cabine layouts bring down cost and carbon emissions per passenger, I'm all for it. I'm not flying for the experience but to get to my destination. If you all care so much about spacious seating, just book business class.

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Chetzemoka 21 points 3 years ago

You don't design for the flight; you design for the evacuation. We learned that the hard way decades ago. This looks like it forgot all those lessons paid for by people's lives.

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Poggervania 5 points 3 years ago

Adding onto this, the cabin design in OP’s post looks like it would 100% break your legs if the plane were to ever crash. It would absolutely suck to be in a plane crash and have your legs broken.

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Fungah -1 points 3 years ago

Evacuate Deez nutz

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Xenon -6 points 3 years ago

Then just add additional emergency exits to the plane. Except for a higher total number of passengers I don't see how this layout would significantly slow down evacuation otherwise. Though I'm by no means an expert.

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Chetzemoka 7 points 3 years ago

People's legs being in that position would negate what is considered a safe evacuation. Modern regulations stipulate that you have 90 seconds to get everyone off the plane safely with 50% of the emergency exits blocked. That's why you're required to be seated completely upright with your feet on the floor during takeoff and landing. So you can stand up immediately if anything goes wrong and you need to evacuate.

This accident is one of the reasons why that rule exists. We forget these things:

"It was then, just 90 seconds after the plane came to a stop, that the entire passenger cabin exploded in flame. An unstoppable wall of fire swept forward from the back of the plane, consuming everything in its path, painting every window in brilliant orange. Firefighters tried to fight it, but there was nothing they could do. Captain Cameron, who jumped from the window just seconds before the explosion, would be the last to leave the plane alive."

https://admiralcloudberg.medium.com/...

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Xenon -1 points 3 years ago

Your legs would obviously not be in that position during takeoff and landing. This picture was clearly taken with the seat reclined to show the relatively comfortable seating position during the flight. If you search for any other pictures that are not cropped like this one, you can see that there's still some space below the seat to put your feet down.

And whenever I disembark from a plane not once have I felt like getting out of my seat is the limiting factor for why it takes so long. The bottlenecks are always the limited number of exits and aisles that every passenger has to squeeze through.

Edit: actually I found a 3d render of the proposed cabine layout here it looks tight but otherwise pretty standard if you ask me, except for the two levels of course.

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cdf12345 0 points 3 years ago

Clearly

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Semi-Hemi-Demigod 6 points 3 years ago

This looks like a good way to eliminate all my carbon emissions from flying because there’s no way I’ll get on a plane like this.

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wandermind 3 points 3 years ago

One word: Claustrophobia

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dingus 2 points 3 years ago

Deep vein thrombosis and lack of efficient evacuation routes say hello

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ilinamorato 1 point 3 years ago

I'm not even particularly claustrophobic, and I am also very aware that this is unlikely to ever pass FAA inspection, and yet I still inevitably start breathing heavier every time I see this photo. It's just so terrifying.

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