'Direct attack': Trump said to be prepping 'much bigger insurrection' after rally comments

2 years ago by kmartburrito to c/politics

Donald Trump's comments at a rally in Minnesota on Saturday led several prominent onlookers to label the former president a "very real threat to democracy" who is preparing another insurrection. Trump earlier in the day spoke at a Bitcoin conference, where the attendees said his speech was "ramb...
Gradually_Adjusting 223 points 2 years ago

The last one didn't work, so that makes sense

Good god, why is he a free man

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Plopp 124 points 2 years ago

Why is he allowed to run for president?

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tiefling 144 points 2 years ago

Because this country has a festering fascism problem

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KillingAndKindess 88 points 2 years ago

Perpetuated by an education problem

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Wes4Humanity 34 points 2 years ago

Caused by the fascist problem

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grabyourmotherskeys 13 points 2 years ago

I'm pretty sure I learned more about the US government growing up in Canada than a lot of US citizens. We had Schoolhouse Rock on tv with our Saturday morning cartoons (I'm old) and studied the US federal government structure for a few weeks in middle school.

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Dkarma 7 points 2 years ago

Always has been.

Nazis modeled their final solution after various aspects of slavery. Disney, Ford, trump ,and many other prominent Americans supported fascism and Hitler.

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DogPeePoo 52 points 2 years ago

Because Russian money has infiltrated The Supremacy Court

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Passerby6497 15 points 2 years ago

Also the Senate. McTurtleFucker tanked both impeachments and then said that it was up to the legal system to hold him to account.

They knew what they were doing, and the whole fucking party is complicit.

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solsangraal 24 points 2 years ago
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DaddleDew 42 points 2 years ago

Bin Laden didn't have shit on how much this guy is a threat to American democracy.

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qprimed 24 points 2 years ago

bin laden was an accelerationist and made it much easier for this orange sack of sh*t to, decades later, cleave the insane from a divided and distracted america.

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Ragnarok314159 2 points 2 years ago

Bin Laden was evil Dr. Strange. Saw millions of realities and chose the path that leads to Trump to destroy the USA.

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qprimed 2 points 2 years ago

agreed. dude had this country pegged 100%.

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eran_morad 33 points 2 years ago
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APassenger 31 points 2 years ago

Merrick Garland.

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Diplomjodler3 17 points 2 years ago

Because they have managed to subvert the US legal system. Not that the other side made it particularly hard for them.

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jumjummy 10 points 2 years ago

Hopefully this time with a competent President in the White House, a proper response will take place to any traitors. Maybe some more of these whackos can become martyrs for agent orange.

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dis_honestfamiliar 7 points 2 years ago

First was not a well planned attack. It was only a trial to see what would happen if they send a mob to the White House.

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Blum0108 9 points 2 years ago

This time he won't have the advantage of already being in the white house and having the legitimacy of already running the government. I'm sure that will make things harder as well

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zephorah 6 points 2 years ago

I don’t understand why he’s not in prison after being found guilty. What happened to sentencing?

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TimLovesTech 11 points 2 years ago

It was delayed till September as the judge needs to look at evidence admitted in the case that may now fall under the Supreme Courts made up presidential immunity ruling. Trump's team is trying to argue that the case should be tossed because evidence of things Trump did while in office were used during the trial (even though the crime started while he was only a candidate and was all admitted into evidence prior to this newly manufactured ruling).

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KillingTimeItself 8 points 2 years ago

white collar crimes are notoriously lax on criminal punishment when it comes to anything that isn't fines.

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blazera 94 points 2 years ago

Theres one last job Biden needs to get right. A big part of how Trumps last coup attempt got so far was because security was very light that day and the response slow, as trump was still in charge of all of it.

This time Biden will be in charge. Maybe this time he'll take the threat trump poses seriously.

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kmartburrito 38 points 2 years ago

Agreed, I hope everyone will be diligently watching. It's hard to believe how close we have come (and how close we still are) to have our democracy be in such danger and so many people to not care or actively support it being harmed.

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GoofSchmoofer 87 points 2 years ago

Speaker Johnson will refuse to swear into Congress on January 3rd a handful of those Democrats, claiming there are “irregularities” in their elections that must be first investigated.

There’s nothing Democrats can legally do to stop Speaker Johnson from pulling this off: he can postpone swearing a member in for as long as he wants.

Then, regardless of how many votes Biden won by, electoral or popular, the House simply refuses to certify the electoral college votes of enough states that the minimum of 270 isn’t reached. Under the 12th Amendment, like with the election of 1876, that throws the election to the House, where each state has one vote.

While a majority of Americans live in a state run by Democrats, a majority of the states themselves are run by Republicans. Each state gets one vote for president in the House, and right now 26 state delegations are GOP-controlled, meaning that a majority of the House would simply vote to put Trump back into the White House, 26-23 (Pennsylvania’s delegation is 50/50). All totally legal.

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Dkarma 44 points 2 years ago

Then Biden declares martial law and files a lawsuit forcing them to certify the results.

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mojofrododojo 31 points 2 years ago

imho, considering the extremely wide range of immunity the supreme court has already given to the executive, Biden would only have to declare the results certified himself - he wouldn't even need to declare martial law, much less file a lawsuit.

it's fucking deranged, but that's where we're at.

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Buddahriffic 13 points 2 years ago

The immunity thing doesn't give the president full power over everything. It just means the president can't be held accountable for crimes they commit for "official reasons".

Biden can't just dictate whatever he wants. The avenue for dictator power is via using that immunity to remove political opponents or incite mobs to do it for him.

Which Trump will do, if he gets in it will go from 0-100 during that first week, he probably already has a list of people that need to be removed and will use the reaction to that list to make the next list, with the goal of removing as much institutional support as he can for the insurrection that will follow once the masses realize just how serious things are.

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CharlesDarwin 8 points 2 years ago

How about the Biden admin declares a few official acts - very precise, such as arresting Johnson and anyone else complicit in such things, as well as those directing such things, and send them all to Gitmo (or given a drumhead court-martial if the admin so chooses). All complicit qons are replaced by Democrats, and life moves on.

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orcrist 5 points 2 years ago
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TurnpikeRangers 3 points 2 years ago

Do you have a source for this? Is this an actual plan they've talked about or is it just a possibility?

Nvm, just saw the comment with the article

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DevCat 72 points 2 years ago

The previous crop of insurrectionist losers got treated with kid gloves, so there would be no claim of political retribution. Kamala gets elected, the new ones will face a black woman prosecutor. Do you really want to be on the receiving end of that?

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citrusface 44 points 2 years ago

They'll just paint her as racist against white people - there's always some bullshit spun they can parrot to their drones. But fuck em - they are weak and scared. I've not been this hopeful for the future of America in a hot minute - so I cannot wait to get out there and vote for Madam President Harris.

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Lucidlethargy 10 points 2 years ago

I mean, actual racism being called out for generations has been habitually and systemically ignored. In the same way, demonstrably false charges can also be ignored.

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citrusface 2 points 2 years ago

I don't disagree. But magachuds

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Dkarma 0 points 2 years ago

And yet we've made progress.

Never go back

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Zeke 69 points 2 years ago

This man is a terrorist attacking America and so are his voters. They should be treated as such and put in jail.

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EatATaco -50 points 2 years ago

Ah yes, let's combine is violent rhetoric with claims of jailing people for committing the crime of...falling for a conman and voting for him.

That's the spirit.

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CosmicTurtle0 33 points 2 years ago

It may have started as falling for a conman. But at a certain point, you have to ask yourself at what point is each individual responsible for his threats to democracy.

You either are a willing and active participant or you are willfully ignorant.

I've met people on both sides of that spectrum and I'll tell you right now, they no longer can claim they fell to his con.

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EatATaco -21 points 2 years ago

Until someone actually breaks a law, suggesting that people should.be jailed for who they vote for is something I expect out of an idiotic authoritarians mouth, like trump.

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Psythik 14 points 2 years ago

Ah, so you're on the "willful ignorant" side.

Trump has already committed several crimes. The classified documents case alone would be enough to put literally anyone else behind bars for several lifetimes. But Trump gets off with stealing literal boxes of the stuff and then selling it to the highest bidder. He got several people killed, but gets to get away with it because it was an "oFfIcIaL aCt". Give me a fucking break.

And that's just one of his many crimes. Wake up and pay attention.

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kbin_space_program 12 points 2 years ago

Dude just stated that voting for him is a vote for ending democracy

Jail for terrorists

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EatATaco -3 points 2 years ago

I've seen plenty of people trying to justify it trying to convince themselves, and others, that this is not what he said. I've not seen a single person say it's good that he would do that, but those people probably should be watched closely.

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mightyfoolish 1 point 2 years ago

They committed a crime. They should go to jail no matter how badly they go kicking and screaming. Who cares what Fox News says about it. Just get the National Guard ready. Why all the games to protect criminals?

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EatATaco 3 points 2 years ago

I was responding to someone saying we should jail people for voting for trump. That's not a crime, just stupidity.

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mightyfoolish 5 points 2 years ago

Yeah, I missed that part. I thought you were defending letting the insurrectionists off easily.

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KillingTimeItself 0 points 2 years ago

says probably a centrist who has ignored every violent rhetoric the right has used for the last decade.

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EatATaco 0 points 2 years ago

If you have to make up a position to make someone wrong, you can rest assured even you realize you don't have an actual argument.

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KillingTimeItself -2 points 2 years ago

bro im shitposting.

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solsangraal 48 points 2 years ago
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EmpathicVagrant 40 points 2 years ago

The moment his polling was behind, just like this.

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UristMcHolland 27 points 2 years ago

He was screaming it was rigged after he won in 2016

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Lupus 15 points 2 years ago

And before

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BurritoEater 42 points 2 years ago path: 0 11443081, hotness: undefined, score: 42, children: 3
Omega_Man 53 points 2 years ago

Well that's terrifying. The only peaceful way to stop this according to the author:

The best way to prevent this from happening is to widely publicize their scheme so public opinion will become so intense that they fear the consequences.

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AutistoMephisto 15 points 2 years ago

Shame that that is literally the best and likely the only recourse we have. Seems like these are huge gaping loopholes we should have closed decades ago.

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orcrist 3 points 2 years ago
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Feathercrown 40 points 2 years ago

We own the white house this time. If they try this shit again the insurrection should be put down.

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Omega_Man 19 points 2 years ago

But they control the house... You know the body that counts the electoral votes.

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cmbabul 11 points 2 years ago

True but Biden is still president and commander in chief until the 20th, I’m sure they plan to spin anything he might do as a coup but it’s a bit different than last time. Still scary shit though

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InternetUser2012 15 points 2 years ago

If they try it this time, there will be deaths, and Dementia Don the racist rapist with 34 felonies won't walk away from it. There will be more military there than people and that shit will get shut down instantly.

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skeezix 1 point 2 years ago

No there wont. People will do what they did last time: piss and moan, then get on with their distractions.

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vaultdweller013 3 points 2 years ago

I propose the use of Willie Pete if they try anything again.

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CharlesDarwin 39 points 2 years ago

But I thought the convicted felon was so popular? Why wouldn't he just, uh, win an election?

Also - why not just arrest him right now?

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OhStopYellingAtMe 31 points 2 years ago

ARREST HIM.

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morphballganon 29 points 2 years ago

Cool. Biden is currently President. So there won't be any delays in calling in the National Guard.

How many Ashli Babbitts will it take to put this fascist uprising down?

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peopleproblems 10 points 2 years ago

That's the part I don't understand.

He's not in office, so he can't delay any response.

Hell, if I were Biden, I'd have a plan ready with my cabinet (sec def, sec state, sec home sec), my joint Chiefs of staff, secret service, etc. Also have the governor of Maryland have his Nat Guard ready too.

Biden himself is safe at the White House. But I would imagine they will be more concerned securing the Capitol building.

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Dkarma 1 point 2 years ago

You think gop speaker Johnson is even going to call congress into session that day?

Funny.

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peopleproblems 1 point 2 years ago

Article II Section 3!

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billiam0202 9 points 2 years ago

For those who didn't know (like me):

He shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them

If Johnson doesn't gavel in the House, Biden can force them to do so. Though I don't think it likely for Johnson to not have a session, because their plans hinge on ignoring legitimate electors under the guise of "irregularities".

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michaelmrose 5 points 2 years ago

If about 20 of them had been willing to die they could have busted in behind Ashli. Last go round she was the only one interested in taking a bullet for Trump.

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morphballganon 10 points 2 years ago

She probably had no idea getting shot was a possibility. It wasn't until she got shot that her cohorts realized they were in deep shit.

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OlinOfTheHillPeople 3 points 2 years ago

She probably had no idea getting shot was a possibility.

Bullshit. They were literally there to kill the sitting VP and anyone else who wouldn't rig the election for Trump.

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morphballganon -2 points 2 years ago

You're talking about the people who showed up with zip ties and a gallows. Ashli Babbitt showed up wearing an American Flag as a cape. She thought they were pulling a patriotic stunt. Anyone genuinely there intending to kill flew Trump's flag, not the US flag.

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Revan343 2 points 2 years ago

They only got that far because Trump was in charge and ensured security was soft.

With Biden in charge, the national guard will almost certainly be ready and waiting, and it won't matter if 20 or 2000 Trumpets are willing to die for him

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Revan343 1 point 2 years ago

On the plus side, if they insist on pushing things to the point where they get mowed down en masse, that's fewer morons and assholes to vote Republican next time

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TheObviousSolution 29 points 2 years ago

He's literally prepping for a dictatorship, he has all but admitted it.

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skulblaka 29 points 2 years ago

all but admitted

He has stated openly that he would be a dictator, on Dec 7 2023 in a Fox News interview with Sean Hannity.

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Sam_Bass 22 points 2 years ago

Keep it up orangefuck. Only so many threats before you get taken up on tbem

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Smokey_the_beer 1 point 2 years ago

I wish I believed that

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carl_dungeon 18 points 2 years ago

Yeah he should go all the way. Also, only the most badass alpha maga supporters wear their name, phone number and SSN printed on their shirts in large letters while they do it, completed with some thin blue line flags, a punisher skull, and a no regrats tattoo

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BigMacHole 9 points 2 years ago

It's a GOOD THING we enact SWIFT Punishment last time a Terrorist sent a Mob of Terrorists to Attack the Capitol!

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CharlesDarwin 9 points 2 years ago

The DHS should be planning a "much bigger" response and getting ready to round up and arrest all the perps, from the convicted felon on down to the lowest level chud.

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toiletobserver 8 points 2 years ago

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WhatIsThePointAnyway 7 points 2 years ago

They arrested hundreds of regular people for J6 but they are somehow powerless to deal with this fuck. Scary how fragile our government truly is.

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