Fallout, Wasteland, The Elder Scrolls.
Also smaller games come to my mind, like Child of Light or South Park: The Stick Of Truth which are made by Ubisoft Montreal.
Anon wants American companies to make a good RPG
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Yeah, "western RPGs" from a couple decades ago were mostly made in the US. Then Bethesda bought interplay and it all went to shit.
And thanks for reminding me of Child of Light, I've had it in my library for ages, installing it to my steam deck right now :)
Still not Europe or Asia, innit?
Ah Canada famously not in the same continent as the United States. Absolutely not in the Americas
Stick of truth was developed by Obsidian
well... fallout, wasteland.
pillars of eternity? I don't know if americans made it, but it was pretty intensely american.
Fallout and TES are "alright" at most, and extremely boring theme parks at worst
Fallout? And I mean the Black Isle fallouts.
Speaking of Black Isle, they also did Planescape and Icewind Dale.
Also: Bioware made Baldur's Gate 1 and 2; they're Canadian not European. Unless they just mean 3.
And of course, the OG RPG: D&D. Pretty sure Gygax was American.
What the fuck does this mean? I mean that no studio in America did anything good in decades. Baldur's gate 2 was 2003. What good rpg was there? Mass effect was good. 2 and 3 didn't deliver to legendary grade. Bioware is dead. Blizzard is dead. Bethesda did nothing since skyrim.
you can't live on your legacy forever
Was what i was playing on
The joke is that we Swiss have a glorious warrior-past that noone remembers anymore.
I was supporting your point with a joke. That's"the fuck" that it meant
Is Neverwinter nights American? That's a good one.
I didn't know we were ignoring old games. It was just what came to mind, sorry.
dont limit just to black isle fallouts lol
3 new vegas and 4 are great and even 76 is good
wow really cause i played 4 and it was a great time because the game was great. you must have a very high standard. never played a single game under 90 score on metacritic (but that would mean new vegas is worse than 4)
As a big fan of fallout, imo, 4 is the weakest of series. Engine was outdated, repeated time wasting quests, boring world building, the base building was their new exciting feature but it fell kinda flat. Now with 1k+ mods game can actually be a lot fun though. Also 74 didn't exist.
didnt know it was contest of most rpg game and not just great game
RDR isn't an RPG, it's an action-adventure game.
I concur on the rest.
I don't think those genres are mutually exclusive. I haven't played RDR1 but RDR2 is definitely an Action-Adventure RPG. You level up Arthur's stats throughout the game and can choose different moral paths that affect the ending. That's playing a role.
Likewise, I haven't played RDR2 (started, but never got past the first 30 min or so), but RDR1 is pretty much just GTA in the wild west. You can buy stuff (like GTA), but I don't recall any stats to speak of, it's very much an action-adventure. Wikipedia claims RDR2 is an action-adventure, so I assume it's closer to the Yakuza series in terms of character customization than RPGs, and Yakuza games are very much action-adventure (despite having some skills to level up).
Isn't RDR exactly as much of an RPG as Mass Effect. Neither gives you any real control over the main story, though I guess Mass Effect makes you think you do better. The sidequests are about as open, and neither do you get to choose your character.
I don't know if I do actually think RDR is an RPG, but that opinion is shared for Mass Effect, The Witcher, and so many others. They've taken the ability point systems from RPGs, but they're still action adventure games with RPG mechanics.
I consider Mass Effect and The Witcher to be action RPGs, more similar to games like Ys and Diablo than games like Elder Scrolls or Final Fantasy. The focus of those games are less on your character development (stats and whatnot) and more on the action, but the character development does matter quite a bit.
However, in RDR, your character development really doesn't matter at all, at least in the first, and I'm guessing the second as well.
So:
There's more in 2 than 1 had. Most of it isn't magic, like The Witcher or Mass Effect (though Dead Eye I'd say is magic), but there are a bunch of skills to learn, as well as weapons to purchase that give essentially Stat upgrades and unlocks to find. They're more diegetic in RDR2 than the other games listed, but I'd say that's better for an RPG, not worse.
They are not ARPGs though. That's Diablo type games. They're Action Adventure games, with RPG elements. I don't think they should be classified with the RPGs because they have very different goals, even though they use similar mechanics.
Last mainline TES game is a decade old and Fallout 4 is also nearing that decade. Meanwhile almost all games in OPs list have released in the last decade.
There's Obsidian but besides them I really can't come up with another good RPG studio from the US that has released a game in the last decade.
Anything ever made by black isle studios. This includes fallout 1 + 2.
also GTA
GTA and RDR have zero decision making or conversation options or skill trees. They are open world action games that took some design notes from open world RPGs. But Rockstar is a British studio anyway.
Yet another English L. USA number 1
I'm surprised no one has mentioned Mass Effect yet. Or Dragon Age, even with a picture of a cosplay of Morrigan in the OP.
Idk, Canadian Bacon is pretty essential for Hawaiian pizza, and last I checked, that's absolutely an American thing.
I thought that was the joke.
I think they meant Owlcat Games, creators of Pahtfinder Kingmaker and Wrath of the Righteous video games. They are based in Cyprus but their developers are all over the place from what I know (so it's more Europe-Asia kind of thing but I may be wrong)
Honestly, everyone's developers are all over the place. Almost every studio hires contractors from wherever to do things as basic as spell checking to pathfinding to artwork. Hell, sometimes they outsource story writing too.
For RPGs they almost always outsource the writing. Crafting a good story is not really a skill that a lot of the major developers have a lot of call for (normally they just have you shoot the bad guys because) so they don't have people on staff for it. In RPGs stories are a lot more important though, so they actually have to put some effort in.
Aren't most RPG video games developed by companies that primarily do RPG video games? Like, Warhorse was founded specifically to make KCD. Fallout Shelter is the only non-RPG Bethesda has developed since 2008. And The Witcher Adventure Game and the Gwent games are the only non-RPGs CD Projekt Red have ever done.
The post is clearly talking about video games. It is reasonable to conclude they are talking about the Pathfinder video games, which were not made by Paizo, but by Owlcat Games. Whether or not Cyprus is part of Asia is kind of debatable, but they are certainly not American.
It gets even worse when you know Europe and Asia are the same continent.
Our accepted definition of what a continent is sucks. Why is Europe considered a continent but India is not? Every argument for Europe being a separate continent applies even better to India.
Europe just wanted to be special and controlled science at the time, change my mind.
I propose we reclassify india as a dwarf continent
the pluto of continents
In contrast, the present eastern boundary of Europe partially adheres to the Ural and Caucasus Mountains, which is somewhat arbitrary and inconsistent compared to any clear-cut definition of the term "continent".
The current division of Eurasia into two continents now reflects East-West cultural, linguistic and ethnic differences which vary on a spectrum rather than with a sharp dividing line.
There's really no physical reasoning for it. You can read on in that article for the historical basis if you want (basically, Homer and other Greeks coined it, and it just kind of stuck), but it's really quite arbitrary where scientists actually draw the line.
india has HALF the landmass...seriously...thats not a continent
If we're going based on landmass, shouldn't Russia be its own continent? Russia is almost twice as big as Europe, and it's culturally unique compared to its neighbors.
Geologists, scornfully staring at you.
Well, the Diablo series was quite good
was
I blissfully remember getting my hands on the Hellfire expansion for the first one; I didn't even know it existed until my uncle gave it to me.
wasn't blizzard north canadian, though?
When Canada makes good shit we just claim it as American. People rarely call us on it.
oh. okay then, yeah, diablo, fav game as a young kid, local california studio, whoo!
I know blizzard (main) was in anaheim. just south (and sprawling with, but in orange county so nobody sane would ever go there) of los angeles. might be what you're thinking of? but also you could be right, and it was in, like, glendale or some shit.
?? DIsneyland is in Anaheim. Not sure why you imply it's an armpit.
WoW was pretty good, too. Maybe too good. It had my hyper focus for like 4 years. I wish I could get a tenth as into games now as I was into WoW about 20 years ago.

Dungeons and Dragons
The OG RPG.
yes but they said good.
Exactly. All RPGs can trace their lineage back to Gygax.
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there are some pretty cool people with some pretty terrible ancestors. I don't think you want to apply this logic; it gets real gross real quick.
Wasn’t Gary Gygax American?
Yeah, Americans created the RPG genre...
Is Rockstar US? I considered the red dead series a quite hellacious RPG. Is GTA an RPG?
Rockstar is a US company, but the developers of GTA are Rockstar North in the UK. They used to be their own company developing GTA, when they were bought by Rockstar.
Red Dead is definetly an american game though.
Rockstar was British, but it's American now. HQ is in NYC, along with their parent company, Take Two.
Red Dead is just GTA with horses and a way better story. Calling it an RPG is a massive stretch.
What elements that you consider core to the genre is it missing?
Generally, RPGs involve character progression through stats, and RDR really doesn't have that. It's an action adventure game with an emphasis on storytelling.
For an Action RPG, decision making, conversation options, and of course a skill trees are necessary. Basically you need to be able to shape your character to "play a role".
I was going to say Horizon Zero Dawn, but Guerilla Games is Dutch.
I'd say it's just barely an Action RPG. But there's no real decision making in the story, or even an attempt at it like Mass Effect, The Witcher, Cyberpunk.
Other than the fact that it is. It's even got a skill tree and experience points...
and you can get all those skills and will before you even finish the game there's no choices in the story or even how the character fights really everyone playing hzd gets the same experience those are rpg elements but rpg elements doesn't make a game an rpg it's just triple a game design needing to have everything from every game ever
Doesn't this definition exclude the first dragon quest from being an RPG?
Bro, you're wrong, cope.
Role playing game just means it's a game where you play a role, right?
It'scosplay from dragon age origin
What game is it supposed to be?
It's Morrigan from Dragon Age.
That's an RTS anyway.
Wit da SKALD reference
there's lots of other good ones under this thread but I'll add mass effect, specifically mass effect 2.
Ameritards can't even handle being a country, let alone creating decent content.
The job market is such that we're too busy fighting over scrap metal and food like it's the aftermath of an apocalypse. We don't time for fucking game development
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