Square!

2 years ago by Maven (famous) to c/science_memes

cybervseas 216 points 2 years ago

When you miss one important constraint in your CAD project.

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iAmTheTot 43 points 2 years ago

Oh man I felt this.

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masterofn001 149 points 2 years ago

Wouldn't the angles need to be interior?

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Maven 180 points 2 years ago

They are all interior to the meme

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errer 99 points 2 years ago

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Kolanaki 15 points 2 years ago

This meme seems to be in a 16:9 ratio making it a rectangle.

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fahfahfahfah 54 points 2 years ago

also the sides must be straight

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Maven 174 points 2 years ago

It's 2024 now... Not everyone has to be straight anymore!

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marcos 23 points 2 years ago

If you want to claim you are a square, you need.

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stupidcasey 15 points 2 years ago

WOW! just wow, do you hear yourself?

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thesporkeffect 6 points 2 years ago

It's actually illegal

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gravitas_deficiency 10 points 2 years ago

Believe it or not, straight to jail.

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Iheartcheese 6 points 2 years ago

Hi.

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Tolookah 22 points 2 years ago

Polar coordinate straight

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Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In 6 points 2 years ago

Define straight in a precise, mathematical way.

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ltxrtquq 8 points 2 years ago

The tangent of all points along the line equal that line

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wholookshere 3 points 2 years ago

Only true in Cartesian coordinates.

A straight line in polar coordinates with the same tangent would be a circle.

EDIT: it is still a “straight” line. But then the result of a square on a surface is not the same shape any more.

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rain_worl 0 points 2 years ago

geodesic

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Rinox 2 points 2 years ago

I knew math was homophobic!

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agamemnonymous 12 points 2 years ago

This is merely a projection of a square on the surface of a cone projected onto a plane.

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LodeMike 9 points 2 years ago

This is also not a polygon. It has infinite and 2 sides at the same time.

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tate 7 points 2 years ago

This actually has six right angles if you include exterior ones.

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RememberTheApollo_ 148 points 2 years ago

Kinda forgot the sides being parallel part. Like missing a step in assembling IKEA furniture, its not gonna turn out right.

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SomeoneSomewhere 83 points 2 years ago

You don't normally need to specify that the sides are parallel if you specify four right angles.

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finitebanjo 16 points 2 years ago

Also pretty sure definition of a shape requires only one enclosed or contiguous area.

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angrystego 24 points 2 years ago

This one is enclosed and contiguous though, the lines of the triangle end where the circular line starts. (The rest is just a drafting residue.)

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finitebanjo -12 points 2 years ago

No, it is 2 contiguous regions. The line of separation is the bounding line of a "shape."

Otherwise, the entire whitespace outside of the region is also part of the shape, as is anything it touches.

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Threeme2189 5 points 2 years ago

OK, imagine the space outside of the shape is black, or see through or whatever.

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naught101 5 points 2 years ago

Those arc sides are parallel in polar coordinates.

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owenfromcanada 81 points 2 years ago

Anarchy geometry

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Sotuanduso 10 points 2 years ago

If anyone makes this community, let me know please.

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jdeath 16 points 2 years ago

i will make it, but i won’t tell you

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Sotuanduso 1 point 2 years ago

NOOOOOoooo...!

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fckreddit 1 point 2 years ago
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RangerJosie 80 points 2 years ago

Easy there Diogenes.

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lemmyng 63 points 2 years ago

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kryptonianCodeMonkey 20 points 2 years ago

Out of 4 lines

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cows_are_underrated 60 points 2 years ago

A square has all right angles inside the structure. This thing has two inside and two outside.

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WolfLink 10 points 2 years ago

If you add that to the definition, you could still have a “square” with a segment of a circle connecting the edges in the middle

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Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In 17 points 2 years ago

Then that section would be of a shorter length.

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WolfLink 5 points 2 years ago

Ah, got me

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Alinor 3 points 2 years ago

But arent the ones from the circle 90 degrees on the inside of the circle as well? The squares could've just as well been placed on the other side of the (circle) lines.

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BalooWasWahoo 5 points 2 years ago

No, the two angles are not equal. Outside/inside angles add up to two π radians. A square has four interior angles of 1/2 π radians, and four exterior angles of 3/2 π radians.

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cows_are_underrated 2 points 2 years ago

This is true, however now it has 4 inside and two outside the structure, so it now has something a square doesn't has.

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multifariace 1 point 2 years ago

Parallelogram.

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AVincentInSpace 35 points 2 years ago

xkcd - Bendy

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Siethron 34 points 2 years ago

This has an infinite number of sides

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werefreeatlast 33 points 2 years ago

This is what AI would give you after countless tries strating with a triangle and having gone up the Pentagon and down to two pairs of unconnected parallel lines.....but what if all equally sized lines were connected? Bam! This

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Hackworth 14 points 2 years ago

Fun Fact: It is very difficult to get any of the image generators to make a pentagon.

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AdrianTheFrog 13 points 2 years ago

I thought this couldn't be true, so using one of the newer models (4bit flux) I told it to make a 5 sided star, and then put lines around the outside

lol this is very weird, did they forbid it from looking at pentagons in the training data or something? it can't do The Pentagon either, it gives it 8-12 sides instead

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Hackworth 6 points 2 years ago

I don't really know, but I think it's mostly to do with pentagons being under-represented in the world in general. That and the specific way that a pentagon breaks symmetry. But it's not completely impossible to get em to make one. After a lot of futzing around, o1 wrote this prompt, which seems to work 50% of the time with FLUX [pro]:

An illustration of a regular pentagon shape: a flat, two-dimensional geometric figure with five equal straight sides and five equal angles, drawn with black lines on a white background, centered in the image.

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AdrianTheFrog 1 point 2 years ago

quick test, with that prompt and flux schnell gguf 4 bit again:

  • pentagon: 1
  • hexagon: 9
  • heptagon: 2
  • octagon: 7
  • decagon: 1

it seems a lot stupider than pro lol

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expatriado 25 points 2 years ago

thinking outside the square

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EpeeGnome 24 points 2 years ago

A square? A square?! Wake up sheeple! That things not even a rombus! Don't you see the lies? Look at the lines! Look! Not all rhombuses are squares, but all squares are rhombuses! All squares are rhombuses and look at this thing they try to call a square. Where are the parallel lines? There's got to be parallel lines, don't you see, or then it's not a rombus and all squares are rhombuses. Don't forget that, don't let them take that fact from you and perpetuate their geometric lies. Does no one even remember what a rombus is? This is, this is basic geometry here that you should have learned in middle school or elementary school, but then you just forget it, and let people trick you with these misleading definitions and fancy diagrams but you have to remember that a Square. Is. A. Rombus.

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cram42 5 points 2 years ago

And all rhombus are parallelograms. By definition opposing sides must be parallel.

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EpeeGnome 4 points 2 years ago

YES. YES! A square is a rombus is a parallelogram! You see it too! There are no parallels in this diagram, only lies and trickery!

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OlPatchy2Eyes 2 points 2 years ago

You have shown me the truth

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tiddy 24 points 2 years ago

270°≠90°

You could say a regular square has 4 270° exterior angles

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OpenStars 23 points 2 years ago

Poor Pac-Man does not look quite okay... :-(

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chemical_cutthroat 16 points 2 years ago

That's a Pac-lapse.

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LarmyOfLone 20 points 2 years ago

Now make a square out of squiggly yarn

String theorists claim this is the true shape of spacetime!

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AVincentInSpace 1 point 2 years ago path: 0 12497516 12511798, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 0
naught101 19 points 2 years ago

This is a square in polar coordinates

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Hupf 19 points 2 years ago

Take that, Euclid!

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mypasswordis1234 18 points 2 years ago path: 0 12498835, hotness: undefined, score: 18, children: 2
TriflingToad 1 point 2 years ago

of course there's a Wikipedia page for that

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dance_ninja 1 point 2 years ago

Man I miss my Zune 80

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niktemadur 17 points 2 years ago

It's Pac-Man with a megaphone!

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Agent641 8 points 2 years ago

Pac-man eating a new york slice

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niktemadur 3 points 2 years ago

Pac-Man's & Sons Original Famous
two blocks away from
Pac-Man's Original
which is a block and a half away from
Pac-Man's Famous
across the street from
Pac-Man's & Sons Famous
etc.

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aaaaace 2 points 2 years ago

Meet you at Ray's.

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Zementid 8 points 2 years ago

Or a comically big joint.

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niktemadur 7 points 2 years ago

Pac-Marley

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FuglyDuck 6 points 2 years ago

Snoop Pac

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grrgyle 4 points 2 years ago

you geometry people go too far stop personifying vertexes, planes, and points math shouldn't be fun

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Rentlar 15 points 2 years ago

HOW ELMO, HOW?!?

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SkyNTP 9 points 2 years ago

Is a corner with an angle of 180 degrees a corner? If yes, then all shapes have infinite corners and infinite edges.

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jdeath 4 points 2 years ago

free real estate

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fossilesque 7 points 2 years ago
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Maven 32 points 2 years ago

Ik exactly what this means but every single time I read it it makes me do the Micheal Jackson thing...

TEE-HEE

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fossilesque 3 points 2 years ago
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Speiser0 10 points 2 years ago

Aah, thanks. But I'll keep reading it properly, as TEE-HEE.

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Clinicallydepressedpoochie 6 points 2 years ago

You're testing me, yo. An I'm bout to fail.

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Agent641 6 points 2 years ago

Where are the broad, flat fingernals tho?

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something_random_tho 6 points 2 years ago

Plato boutta flip the table.

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JohnDClay 5 points 2 years ago

triangle on a sphere

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Zagorath 4 points 2 years ago

Does this even meet the criteria for "a shape"? I'd have thought you need to be able to travel from any point within the shape to any other point, without crossing a line.

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saltesc 50 points 2 years ago

The part showing the angle is not part of it. They should've made it a dotted line or something.

Though, two of the 90° angles are.actually 270.

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Skua 12 points 2 years ago

The classic cartoon star shape isn't a shape with that rule. Same wth a crescent

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MajorMajormajormajor 9 points 2 years ago

I don't know what a french pastry has to do with this.

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Ephera 11 points 2 years ago

Are you sure about that?

A crescent-shaped croissant

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Zagorath 0 points 2 years ago

Huh? Of course it is. A star is, so long as you don’t draw it out of two interlocking triangles, or construct it from 5 straight lines, and leave the internal parts of those lines intact. A crescent just…is. Unless you’re trying to claim the stars that sometimes appear with a crescent (e.g. on some Islamic country’s flags) are a part of the crescent itself.

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Skua 4 points 2 years ago

Wait, you don't mean the line has to be straight? If that's what you mean, I'm fairly sure the internal lines in the post are only there as construction. The section of the triangle that's inside the smaller circle is just there to show dimensions, so it's drawn (slightly) thinner than the external lines

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lunarul 11 points 2 years ago

That sounds like the definition for convex shape, not the general definition for a shape

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jdeath 3 points 2 years ago

it doesn't have to be a straight line between points eh

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lunarul 0 points 2 years ago

Then this shape does meet the definition

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jdeath 1 point 2 years ago

yes i concur

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Zagorath 1 point 2 years ago

You’re the second person to have made that suggestion to me, but no.

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lunarul 0 points 2 years ago

If you're talking about straight lines, then yes, that's how you define a convex shape. If any uninterrupted path can be taken, then the OP shape does satisfy the condition.

Edit: just read the other comments and I see the problem was that you thought the internal angle shown for reference on how the shape was built is part of the shape. It's not, just the thicker lines define the shape shown. The little crossmarks that show equal sides are also not part of the shape.

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skulblaka 11 points 2 years ago

Depends how you define a shape. I don't think it's a polygon because it doesn't have straight lines. Technically a circle also isn't a polygon by the same rules, but circles have their own special little clubhouse. Sure is a shape though. I think this... thing is also a shape. Just not a useful one.

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Zagorath 1 point 2 years ago

As it was presented in the OP, I don’t think it is a shape. If I get two squares and stick them next to each other so one side of each is touching, have I suddenly got one rectangle? Or do I still have two squares with a border between them?

Someone else posted an amended version with the internal lines removed. The equivalent of taking those two squares and removing the border between them, so you would have just one rectangle.

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lung 1 point 2 years ago

Idk seems very useful to me, like if I need a paperweight or doorstop

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blaue_Fledermaus 1 point 2 years ago

Concave shape vs convex shape

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Zagorath 1 point 2 years ago

Uhh, no. A crescent is a classic concave shape, but you can travel from any point to any other in a crescent without crossing a line, because it’s a single enclosed shape.

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davidagain 2 points 2 years ago

A crescent isn't a convex shape though, and ironically you left out the word 'straight' in your rule about convex.

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Zagorath 2 points 2 years ago

No irony, I didn't say straight because I didn't mean straight. I meant exactly what I said: you can get from one point to another without crossing a line. Because if you have to cross a line, you've either moved into a different shape (in the case of two adjoining shapes) or moves into empty space.

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Bertuccio 1 point 2 years ago

I couldn't find any definition of geometric shape that uses that criterion, including Wikipedia which also has a 5-pointed star shown with 5 line segments labelled as a shape: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shape.

The meme is wrong because squares are polygons by definition, which by definition are made of line segments, but this thing has curved sections.

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Admetus 4 points 2 years ago

Could be a square in a two dimensional space with different rules.

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CaptainHowdy 3 points 2 years ago

Wat. There are three sides my dudes. What am I missing?

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Aussiemandeus 11 points 2 years ago

The semi circle side

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CaptObvious 3 points 2 years ago

IDIC!

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grrgyle 3 points 2 years ago

It makes me want to be angry and laugh at the same time

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randint 2 points 2 years ago
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gnuplusmatt 2 points 2 years ago

It's hip to be a...

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Vathsade 4 points 2 years ago

That music is just too darn loud

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WhiskyTangoFoxtrot 2 points 2 years ago

Is that a raincoat?

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Randelung 2 points 2 years ago

The 90 degree angles are supposed to be on the inside. Which in this case would mean at least the same side. Otherwise the 360 degree rule is broken and it's not a rectangle, much less a square.

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rain_worl 0 points 2 years ago

that is less than 45 degrees

source: eyeballs

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