It can ring and give notifications, as long as they aren't set to something obnoxious.
Any public place frankly, I get a 30 minute lunch and 7-8 people blasting Tick Tocks in a small area...
2 years ago by OttoVonNoob to c/memes
spankmonkey 77 points 2 years ago
MutilationWave 35 points 2 years ago
I'm pretty old but do you know the Woody Woodpecker laugh? I used to work with a girl back before smartphones that had that as her text notification. It was the whole thing which takes like five seconds so sometimes it was just that fucking sound almost non-stop. Here it is, cursed fucking creation.
christian 3 points 2 years ago
It's kind of amazing that I haven't really thought about Woody Woodpecker since watching the cartoons as a kid and the animation doesn't look familiar at all other than yeah that's the right colors, but I could hear the laugh in my head immediately on seeing the name, without having to play the audio.
doctortran 6 points 2 years ago
Right, but they were suggesting it should be silenced at all times, by default, even for the very first notification.
doctortran 11 points 2 years ago
Well they should silence it at that point because obviously they're paying enough attention to it and expecting responses, so they should be waiting for the vibrate if not looking at it directly.
But people don't need to have their phone silenced at all times while in public, they just need to be attentive enough to answer and silence it. I frequently don't even feel the vibration.
state_electrician 6 points 2 years ago
Unprompted, I will tell you the most obnoxious ring tone I have ever heard. It was on the subway and a voice was suddenly loudly proclaiming: "Warning! Warning! The owner of this phone is a self-confessed binge drinker" until some douchebag picked up the call.
MeatsOfRage 3 points 2 years ago
It's probably obnoxious in real life but I really wanna do the ZZ Top ringtone from Bad Monkey
conciselyverbose 14 points 2 years ago
The worst part is that it's just normalized enough that you can't really call it out.
affiliate 1 point 2 years ago
that has not stopped me from calling it out. in my experience, most people seem to be unaware that it bothers other people (or at least they claim to be unaware).
that said, a decent number of them are unwilling to change their behavior after being told that it does bother people.
doctortran -9 points 2 years ago
It's normalized because it's not a serious problem, it's a minor, and extremely temporary annoyance the vast majority of the time.
conciselyverbose 21 points 2 years ago
It's incredibly obnoxious and there's never a good reason for it.
Headphones are dirt cheap. Use them in public. No one has ever wanted to hear your bullshit.
skyspydude1 6 points 2 years ago
Clearly you've never spent an hour+ on a bus with someone watching TikTok on a fucking Bluetooth speaker.
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Smoogs 1 point 2 years ago
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GaMEChld -2 points 2 years ago
I was making fun of this entire concept. If talking in public is allowed, it implies that everyone is comfortable with a person emitting a certain amount of noise. What form that noise takes is idiotic to divvy up and bitch about.
Explain to me how if you're annoyed by music playing, why is that any more valid than someone else being mad at talking? Or someone else for whistling? Singing? Phone ringing? Vibrating? Where are your arbitrary lines?
HikingVet -56 points 2 years ago
If someone told me to silence my phone in public they would get laughed at. And if you persist I'll tell you to call the cops, who will then proceed to laugh at you.
Theatres, yeah, they shouldn't even vibrate.
Edit: you're prefences are noted and ignored. People have been loud in public since there has been public. Get over yourselves.
toynbee 13 points 2 years ago
Presumably, for such a complaint, the cops wouldn't even bother to come to laugh at you unless they were very very bored. This is probably true in both circumstances you described. Also, I can't speak for others, but unless detained I wouldn't stick around most public locations long enough for someone to complain about a notification from my phone. Even if a call is received and must be answered, it seems appropriate to accept the call and leave the immediate shared area if possible. Obviously, in such circumstances as a moving bus, quickly leaving isn't really feasible.
However, I partially agree with the person to whom you responded. Your phone shouldn't make any media based sound (videos, music) in public. I also mostly agree with what I think you're saying: in most circumstances, notification sounds are inoffensive. Movies are not the only exception to this but definitely are one. Laughing in the face of someone who requests quiet in a public shared area seems rude, though, and might escalate the situation.
To elaborate, recently I went to see a dental surgeon. As I approached the waiting area, my immediate thought was to set my phone to vibrate. Once I entered, however, I realized that not only was there a TV in the space; also there was an elderly couple watching TV on their phones. Not only were they doing so, not only were they watching something different from what was on the TV, not only were they watching their media at BLARING volume, but they were also watching vastly different content. In this circumstance, notifications could be - reluctantly - forgiven, but their blasting and conflicting media made it very difficult to concentrate on filling out my paperwork.
I'm too much of a wimp to have approached them, but in that circumstance I think it would have been appropriate to ask them to silence their media and would have only required a vague awareness of the existence of others for them to have done so without prompting.
Though the cops, if they came, would likely still have just laughed.
An aside: as soon as the presumed wife left the waiting area, the likely husband shut off his media. I don't know what that means, but wanted to mention it.
HikingVet -1 points 2 years ago
How am I a child? Dude makes up a rule and I'm supposed to follow it? Really?
It's not a law, and telling someone to call the cops os pointing out the absurdity of the demand.
Smoogs 3 points 2 years ago
I wouldn’t call the cops. I’d just fling it into the ocean. Who would call the cops for you then? You can’t. You have no phone.
See? We all make decisions every second to be or not to be jerks. You’re not special.
Smoogs 1 point 2 years ago
You’re assaulting others airspace and committing harassment. that isn’t your right but then suddenly everything is a crime when someone else does something to you. Pick a conviction. Narcissism isn’t an excuse.
MeatsOfRage 125 points 2 years ago
Worst thing about someone watching a reel out loud is you hear the same 15 second sound bite 30 times while they're reading the comments.
TheEighthDoctor 13 points 2 years ago
Oh no oh no oh nononono
brbposting 2 points 2 years ago
I think one of the platforms used to pause at some point reading comments if you fullscreened them, then changed it so it would play unless manually paused first. YouTube Shorts?
Hearing the same 15 second soundbite 30 times… tremendous for engagement!
YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH 82 points 2 years ago
I swear to god, please please please do not blast your fucking music, even if it is rad like ratm, on the walking trail. No one likes it and it makes you look like an asshole and I have to glare at you instead of giving you a friendly wave.
ChickenLadyLovesLife 16 points 2 years ago
I see a few cyclists doing that these days on the bike trails. Some of these absurd $10K+ bicycles even have speakers built into them. I guess it's slightly less obnoxious since a bicycle will pass a walker or runner very quickly, but it's still dickhead behavior. Even worse than music, though, is people who blast fucking preachers.
YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH 14 points 2 years ago
Blasting preachers is a special sort of asshole behavior I never encountered or considered before. I bet they think they are saving souls.
ChickenLadyLovesLife 9 points 2 years ago
The dude definitely had the smug look of the saved walking amongst the damned. I don't think he cared about saving souls at all, just doing his version of virtue signalling.
Th4tGuyII 52 points 2 years ago
Man, my brother is the worst for this. Has multiple pairs of headphones, usually at least one on his person, and STILL will blast his Instagram reel on speaker as if everyone around him wants to hear his doomscrolling and brainrot memes
spookedintownsville 50 points 2 years ago
flashgnash 4 points 2 years ago
Oh my god this is so true
Makes me so irrationally angry especially when the person in question keeps cutting them off halfway through sentences
Ex used to do this all the time
Imgonnatrythis 45 points 2 years ago
I really wish people were more interested in open format ear buds and bone conductors. They are the perfect blend between personalized notifications, background music and being able to hear what's going on around you as well as so much more comfortable than having your ear holes plugged up. I wear mine all day long sometimes and forget I'm even wearing them.
Imgonnatrythis 7 points 2 years ago
https://www.digitaltrends.com/...
Think new Sony links are coming out.
My favorite are bose open but the price point is inflated a bit.
ensoniqthehedgehog 2 points 2 years ago
I have both current Linkbuds. I love the concept of the first one but they are uncomfortable for me no matter how I wear them (unless I damn near have them hanging out of my ear, but then they sound bad and fall out easily). The S model is one of my favorite earbuds I own. Super small and light with great sound and fantastic ANC and passthrough. Not quite the same as a truly open earbud though. I want to try the BOSE clip on one's, but like you said they are pricy.
HauntedCupcake 2 points 2 years ago
I know it's subjective, and not denying your experience. But for other readers, the og Linkbuds are hands down the most comfortable headphones I have ever worn, without exception. I sometimes even forget I'm wearing them.
Obviously your mileage may vary, but if they sound like they might be your thing, it's worth giving them a go, especially with the crazy low sales atm
Imgonnatrythis 1 point 2 years ago
Probably depends on which model and your glasses. Link buds not an issue at all. Bose open not an issue with glasses for majority at least
bruhduh 1 point 2 years ago
Any tws with transparency functionality
Imgonnatrythis 8 points 2 years ago
These pale in comparison to open format imo
Wanderer 43 points 2 years ago
People need to get called out for this more.
I was thinking "I bet back in the day people would have called people out on their shit. That's why standards were higher". So I called some guy out on it and he was like "sorry sorry sorry. Okay" and he put his hands up.
Look cunt you obviously seem to know it's not right if you acting like that so why you being a knobhead? Just because no one will call you out?
Edit:corrected my own shite grammar
Smoogs 5 points 2 years ago
Depends.
If the guy said sorry like in your story he obviously Canadian.
You do that in Australia you either get punched or a chicken shit who has his ego so far up his anxiety he makes an effort to talk back, fails and jumps out on the next train stop afraid you’re gonna punch his gizzards. (But hey it was effective non the less)
If it’s in America you just created another school shooting what with traumatizing a student by asking him to turn down his device and now the world must pay.
vaccinationviablowdart -59 points 2 years ago
You got what you wanted and you're angry about it. YOU are the problem.
I can only imagine what a dick you probably are all the time. Even by your own telling in this story you sound like you were probably rude or even threatening to a stranger because they made you so mildly uncomfortable.
Not even really because you were uncomfortable, but because you are roiling mad about cell phone etiquette having declined since "back in the day". Whatever that means.
gamermanh 31 points 2 years ago
You got what you wanted and you're angry about it
Bend what they said more, let's see if it breaks! They got mad at the way the person responded revealing they knew they were doing a dick, it's quite simple
I can only imagine what a dick you probably are all the time
Judging from your comment I'm going with: because projection
TheTetrapod 8 points 2 years ago
If you forget to be considerate, you are, in fact, being inconsiderate and people have a right to be annoyed by it.
vaccinationviablowdart -16 points 2 years ago
No. The person responded by trying to diffuse things:
he was like “sorry sorry sorry. Okay” and he put his hands up.
That doesn't convey any sense of guilt, it conveys that he was trying to avoid a fight. he put his hands up. That's how you show someone, "look, I'm not a threat, I'm not going to hurt you. you win." It's a strategic decision, not an admission of culpability.
He backed down and surrendered in the situation because it wasn't worth getting into a confrontation about it. Unlike the commenter, he was able to keep this interaction in perspective.
And it's this part that makes me think wanderer was probably threatening and rude. If wanderer made a normal, calm, polite comment/request, this is an unlikely reaction. It is likely occurring because the person on the phone thought they were in some danger.
Wanderer 8 points 2 years ago
I said "can't you put some headphones in?" And put my hands up gestured in like "what the fuck are you doing"?
I'm not going to start a fight with a guy sitting directly behind me. That's strategically stupid. I didn't even stand up.
Technically I guess he put one hand up because his other was holding the phone. Which is a very, very common gesture of guilt. I literally watched a game today and one of the players made that gesture to his own teammates when he made a mistake. I doubt he was expected to get punched by them either.
Smoogs 4 points 2 years ago
You don’t even know what he said. You have no evidence they were rude or threatening in their request.
Albeit you sound snowflake enough if someone asked you full stop to ‘please turn it down’ that you’d act a victim even on basic communication. You’d probably inject a bunch of narrative shit into the story to even play how you’re a victim.
A_Random_Idiot 37 points 2 years ago
If you are in public, like a bus, restaurant, store, public space, etc.
Your phone shouldnt make any fucking noise at all besides ringing and the text ping noise.
And if you're gonna answer it, don't put it on speakerphone, and respect teh fact that everyone within 300 feet of you doesnt want to be party to your fucking phonecall.
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A_Random_Idiot 1 point 2 years ago
ringing is fine as long as you dont have an obnoxious 4 minute ring tone
RememberTheApollo_ 6 points 2 years ago
People weren’t great about wearing headphones in public either.
yamanii 3 points 2 years ago
lol, no fellow commenter, this also happened before they did that, there was even an ONG or random group here that walked around with very cheap wired earbuds to distribute to these rude people a decade ago. It just wasn't video but downloaded mp3s.
ResoluteCatnap 1 point 2 years ago
It was a problem before audio jacks got yeeted
ContrarianTrail -16 points 2 years ago
Nobody took away their headphone jacks. It's them who bought devices without one.
Baguette 31 points 2 years ago
Ehh a bit disingenuous. Apple, samsung, and google took away the headphone jack. You either have to get an old phone (like late 2010s) or buy it from niche companies (sony phones, gaming phones, or some chinese phones)
DillyDaily 8 points 2 years ago
I mean, yes, but a 3.5mm to usb-c adapter is like $10, so that's still not really an excuse.
Most people use wireless headphones these days, and usb-c headphones are getting more common. (I'm hearing impaired, all headphones sound the same to me, but maybe an audiophile will tell me why usbc headphones suck compared to 3.5mm)
When I bought my new pixel I went to the gym that afternoon and immediately realised I couldn't use my headphones because I hadn't been mindful of my missing headphone jack. Worked out in silence, and bought an adapter on the way home for my headphones. Problem solved.
There's tons of quiet things you can do on your phone if you're bored and don't have headphones.
The only people who are allowed to have their phones on full volume plasting noises without headphones are visually impaired people, because otherwise they'd need to put their headphones in just to check what time it is on their phone.
ContrarianTrail 1 point 2 years ago
My brand-new Samsung phone has a headphone jack.
I see what you’re saying though, and while that may be true now, it hasn’t always been the case. If sales of the first iPhone model without a headphone jack had hit an all-time low and people kept buying the older models instead, Apple likely would have realized the mistake and brought it back. They did this with their shitty laptop keyboards and removing the HDMI port and card reader too. But instead, people just complained and still bought those devices anyway, signaling to manufacturers that it was okay, and then others followed suit and here we are now.
There's always alternatives for people willing to stick to their principles. My device still has a removable battery as well and so did the one I had before.
Baguette 8 points 2 years ago
Im glad you still believe in consumer friendly phones. Unfortunately all the flagships oned have decided one port is enough. As for consumer repairs, I wouldnt be surprised if it becomes completely impossible soon, given that apple did try blocking third part parts before with the iphone 13.
BobGnarley 14 points 2 years ago
"A plot this deep has to be heard and seen to be fully appreciated."
abbadon420 4 points 2 years ago
You stream it to the nearest screen. Don't keep that confined to your phone alone.
FlyingSquid 2 points 2 years ago
That's why you bring extra earbuds.
yogurtwrong 30 points 2 years ago
Just like drug addicts, these people are addicted to dopamine and they will do anything to get it even if it makes everyone else uncomfortable
I think TikTok format video players are straight up drugs. It's a real physical addiction which even has withdrawal symptoms
They are so appealing, I do avoid them but it's just sad to watch everyone else become a victim of those
RQG 11 points 2 years ago
It doesn't actually matter. A addiction will ruin lives if unchecked. No matter if physical or psychological. It's all about definitions at that point too.
Where does physical end and where does psychological start.
It's not a matter of one is worse than the other.
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new_guy 27 points 2 years ago
I don't have this problem because whenever I'm in public I have my headphones on. Even if I'm not listening to anything on them they're still good enough to muffle every other sound blasted by others.
It's easier to adapt myself than it is to educate everyone else I guess.
Orbituary 24 points 2 years ago
Ever go hiking? Skiing? Sit in a park? This is the same concept as some douche blasting shit on their Bluetooth speaker while you're trying to exist in the moment.
Maybe it's hard to conceive of for some, but the world shouldn't be shielded by headphones.
new_guy 10 points 2 years ago
I don't disagree with the last part.
The thing is that either I shield myself whenever it's possible so I don't get annoyed over other people's actions and get to live a reasonable nice day, or I let myself be annoyed by them and don't enjoy my hiking or sitting in the park experience anyway.
Either way I don't really encounter these people unless I'm using public transportation. If I'm on the beach then I sometimes encounter them but then it's chill and I can just find another place.
doctortran -14 points 2 years ago
Ever go hiking?
On a trail, where you are not subjected to anybody else's noise for more than a second as they pass you by?
Skiing?
You're skiing down a slope and a person is skiing next to you with a Bluetooth speaker?
Sit in a park?
Outdoors, where you can put some distance between yourself and them?
Maybe it's hard to conceive of for some, but the world shouldn't be shielded by headphones.
You're right, it's already shielded by air. The air that you can put between yourself and the other person.
The point was regardless of whatever they're doing, you are only as subject to their poor behavior as you choose to be.
If you're not going to do something about it (and please tell me what you would actually do about this beyond complaining on the internet), then your only other choice is mitigation, which involves just keeping headphones with you to block out other people's noise or learn to find more peaceful spaces.
shikitohno 7 points 2 years ago
Outdoors, where you can put some distance between yourself and them?
Sure, if it's one person. Where I used to live, the nearest park would have multiple groups engaged in loudness wars, each upping their volume in response to the others, so nobody could enjoy the park. Public spaces shouldn't be held hostage by assholes who don't understand how to behave in public, to the detriment of everyone else.
As far as what to do, it would be nice if the existing rules would be enforced that prohibit this behavior, but people cry racism for being told off for bringing a massive speaker to blast merengue and dembow in the park and somehow find support, rather than people asking why they're blasting any type of music in the park to begin with.
sevan 24 points 2 years ago
I used to judge people for going about their daily lives with headphones on (like shopping) as being antisocial. In the last few years, I've come to realize they were just quicker to realize how annoying our society is and I'm increasingly likely to join them.
Recently I went to a mall and visited all the department stores. One of them had a guy playing a piano live and my first thought was "how quaint". Then, as I sat and waited for my wife to try things on it struck me that I wasn't hearing horrible music played over speakers - the piano was really nice. Why can't places go back to playing relaxing music like that (even recorded)?
vaultdweller013 5 points 2 years ago
Theres a restaurant I go to which plays music that youd expect from a fallout game. The old folks like it cause nostalgia but a couple other folks on the younger end have said something along the lines of "I heard this in Fallout New Vegas" its great, also apparently Big Iron played once and a bunch of old bastards and younger guys sung along to it. I wish I was there for it.
MystikIncarnate 3 points 2 years ago
IMO, there's two main factors at play. First, the speakers in most stores suck. They have to buy them at volume (quantity, not loudness), and install them everywhere. The primary reason they have them is for paging, so they can make announcements and request that people go places. Music just gives the speakers something to do while not doing announcements.
Due to the amount of speakers they buy, and their primary purpose being for announcements, they don't exactly buy high quality speakers. If the store has existed for a long time (maybe 10+ years), then it's likely they're analog, so the quality is also affected by the amps they're using, and the cables, etc.
As long as the system can still do paging/announcements without issue, the business really doesn't have any reason to spend money on upgrading it.
For the most part, most companies have connected these to some kind of satellite radio or music streaming system (like Spotify, but more business centric). It's just plugged into the ancient sound amps for the analog system, often by someone who isn't an audio expert, so levels are often all over the place, sometimes to loud and blown out, other times too quiet and details in the music are too quiet to be heard.
As long as the speakers still perform the announcements/paging that the company requires, they don't care if the music sounds bad.
There's a lot more to say on it for contributing factors, but the main drivers for it are not to play music. With the shift to digital and everything needing to update their music providing device, coupled with untrained people doing the connections for the new music solution to an ancient speaker system, it's unsurprising that it sounds like garbage.
sevan 2 points 2 years ago
Great points on the horrible quality of sound in these places. I was referring more to the selection of music, but playing it at low quality certainly makes it worse. My kids joke that the grocery store is where old pop songs go to die.
MystikIncarnate 1 point 2 years ago
Well, if the comparison is between a live instrument and the terrible speakers in the building, unless that instrument is not tuned, damaged, or otherwise not working correctly, the instrument will sound significantly better than anything else you could possibly subject your ears to.
The music selection is largely corporate/business picking something that's very safe to play, so it's usually very boring music.
dragonfucker -7 points 2 years ago
Drag shops with phonics in. Drag has autism and doesn't need to hear 50 people's conversations and bad pop music just to have a migraine when drag gets home. Drag does not think the grocery store is a place for social interaction anyway.
Pantsofmagic 21 points 2 years ago
Remember when tech companies wanted you talking to your phone for everything out loud. Hey Siri, eat a boiled dick.
limelight79 6 points 2 years ago
I was on an airplane one time when someone was doing that. The flight attendant heard it and said something like, "Oh no, that's not okay," then figured out who it was and had them turn it down. No one even asked - she just did it. Excellent.
HootinNHollerin 20 points 2 years ago
This chick was watching how-to makeup tiktoks super loud w no headphones and after 5 mins I asked if she could turn it down and she scowled at me and said ‘YOU CAN WAIT’
Entropywins 17 points 2 years ago
You and that clown make up can get fucked...is what I would've thought about 20 min after this happening
muntedcrocodile 19 points 2 years ago
Obnoxious dickheads gonna be obnoxious
MystikIncarnate 6 points 2 years ago
This is the way.
lowered_lifted 16 points 2 years ago
Literally had a dude do this when the VP debate was on, and he was all cheering and pumping his fist soyboying about JD Vance
abbadon420 8 points 2 years ago
Did you punch him in the face? I that would hold up in court.
lowered_lifted 2 points 2 years ago
no I told him to shut up and he told me I was being immature and told me to shut up and I told him that he was the one who was disrupting things that needed to leave and half of the store tried to take his side and say hey this is America buddy he can listen to whatever he wants to and I was telling them that he should get some headphones for his Nazi propaganda and then the guy eventually fucked off muttering under his breath and the managers knew that I was cool so I sat back down and chilled
lowered_lifted 1 point 2 years ago
it wasn't a bus it was a waiting area in a pharmacy but it's basically the same principle
lobut 13 points 2 years ago
It takes me a while to see how enraged I get with it. I always have to wonder if I can take a punch from that person.
I once joked, "hey that's pretty loud isn't it?" And instead of them taking the hint, they were startled and were like, what's going on? and I instead I just go, "excuse me, could you turn that down?" now. Direct approach is better.
vaccinationviablowdart -2 points 2 years ago
how does it go?
vaccinationviablowdart -9 points 2 years ago
By "Stay on their phone" you mean keep doing as they were (ignoring your request) right?
I don't know why everyone here is so grumpy about other people enjoying their phones but if you are grumpy about it, I think politely asking someone to turn the volume down or whatever is the best way to deal with it. If it's really so unpopular they'll be getting always asked to turn their phones down and eventually get earbuds or subtitles or whatever.
I'd be interested if you phrased it as a question somehow, maybe it might be more fruitful. Less dramatic/tense for you. Like maybe "excuse me I was just wondering if there is a reason you are playing that so loud? It's bothering me." Would need to workshop the phrasing to be less dickish than that. But maybe you'd get some kind of interaction you'd learn about other perspectives. There must be a reason right? Like idk I only ever play things out loud by mistake when Bluetooth or the AUX fails and I find it humiliating for anyone to know what dumb podcasts I have on. Sometimes I take the earbuds out and hold them away from my head to make sure nobody can hear even by accident the stupid shit I am listening to. I would love to know more about how people are just doing everything with no worries in public. Maybe they have a useful philosophical contribution I hadn't thought of. Or maybe they can explain to you why you shouldn't be bothered.
How about this: "Hi, I was just wondering how you find it when other people are playing things really loud on their phones?"
Honestly, it's a bit passive aggressive but that would probably be more likely to make them turn it off immediately as they might not want to engage in a conversation like that. However every so often someone might take you up on the conversation and you could share a few minutes together as humans.
lobut 3 points 2 years ago
Oh no they listened, haven't met anyone that didn't.
I don't think they typically want to have a convo? But I can't say.
lol, I also stay away from asking people that look like they'll cause me trouble. I could try being extra polite, but I have a very "I-can-whoop-this-kid"-kinda face, lol.
biggerbogboy 13 points 2 years ago
Literally my school bus, there's like 50 students inside at any given time, more than half of them blast tiktoks, shorts, reels or other bullshit, the rest are either yelling and acting macho, or really wanna gtfo of that bus.
MonkeMischief 11 points 2 years ago
Well thanks for the inside intel, because I briefly would consider it when I saw the local busses' "Now hiring drivers!" stickers but then imagined this is what would make it pretty much hell every day. :D
biggerbogboy 3 points 2 years ago
I'd say if you want to be thanked a lot per day, being a driver is for you, although I'd rather drive the public buses than the monstrosity of a school bus
FlyingSquid 2 points 2 years ago
It's my understanding that around here, the pay is low because you don't work full-time, but a lot of the people do it are doing it because they can still get health insurance through it.
FlyingSquid 13 points 2 years ago
I was at a party and another person was watching videos on their phone without headphones while everyone was watching a movie. We were all too polite to say anything because it was part of a three-day meetup for people who had been talking to each other on a forum for years and no one wanted to be critical of anyone else, but wow did it piss me off.
FlyingSquid 1 point 2 years ago
I know, but I feel like that was an unusual situation- a group setting where everyone would be there for multiple days and no one knew each other in person. Sort of a 'everyone be diplomatic' thing so as to not make things bad for the hosts.
DoucheBagMcSwag 0 points 2 years ago
Or they are asshole trash that is angry, bitter and just waiting for someone to say something so they can be the one to be in control (since God knows they aren't in their own life) to deny everyone around them the comfort of silence or.... will want to fight. You find a lot of these types on public transportation and they do it on purpose.
Semi_Hemi_Demigod 12 points 2 years ago
Some other things to add:
- Stand left, walk right on escalators and moving walkways
- Do not walk more than two abreast, and be aware that there may be people behind you who want to walk faster.
My main gripe with society is that everyone else is in their own little worlds and I'm stuck in the real one dealing with them all.
Xyre 6 points 2 years ago
Stand left, walk right on escalators and moving walkways
This may be region-specific. In my area, I generally see it the other way around. But unless you're the only person, it's usually pretty clear which side to stand.
Semi_Hemi_Demigod 2 points 2 years ago
Yeah, I got it backwards. Unless you're in a former Commonwealth country and you drive on the left
Lennnny 4 points 2 years ago
Treat yourself like a car and park - I see too many people just stopping in the middle of wherever to check their phone. It's not hard to take a quick glance and find a spot off to the side. They should teach this stuff in schools.
djsoren19 11 points 2 years ago
If you have enough money to afford a modern cellphone, you can pay $20 for crappy bluetooth headphones like the rest of us. It's very interesting that it's never an otherwise very respectful and thoughtful individual whose playing their music loudly in a public space, there's always one or two other markers letting you know they're just always an asshole.
JasonDJ 10 points 2 years ago
I completely agree.
But.
I fucking hate how I can't read about anything any more. Especially instructional things.
It's getting to the point that if there's something I want to learn about or research, I have to watch a video. And of course, I probably didn't bring headphones, because I wasn't planning on listening to or watching anything.
Another_earthling 4 points 2 years ago
I need headphones regularly for learning languages (Duolingo), learning coding, learning about physics etc So there are always Bluetooth headphones in my small bag.
There's no life without them
Lennnny 1 point 2 years ago
Most yt channels have captions and transcripts. If you really are that desperate to learn how to install a French drain while on the bus, just grab the transcript and whack it into chatgpt to get an article version.
verdigris 1 point 2 years ago
This is not really true in my experience. The vast majority of instructional videos and video essays are just repackaging a text resource, often just the list of references from Wikipedia. I think you're just falling for the veneer of professionalism that makes YouTubers popular, but remember it doesn't actually mean they know what they're talking about any more than a random forum poster. There are of course exceptions, but the glut of instructional videos is just because they're profitable, not because they're actually full of unique knowledge.
jjjalljs 8 points 2 years ago
As I understand it, people mostly change their mind (and thus behavior) for two reasons.
The first is in-group beliefs. If someone sees other people in their in-group believing a thing or behaving in a way, they're more likely to adopt that. Possibly the people who play audio in public, their friends and peers are the same way. But if you also might be in one of their groups, like a college kid to another college kid, or a junior professional to another, talking to them might make a difference. But if you're like a 59 year rich old white guy, telling a 16 year old non-white poorer kid is unlikely to land, because they probably see you as outgroup.
The other thing that changes minds is horrible trauma. Like, if you smashed their head into the bus window, took their phone and transferred all their money (via venmo or whatever), then tossed the phone out the window, they might change their mind about being a public irritant. Maybe. They might also take some other lesson instead. But either way you'd go to jail for several crimes, so probably don't do that.
PresidentCamacho 7 points 2 years ago
We as a society have given up on doing literally anything to shame or punish people who are rude selfish assholes. In fact a large contingent of society seems to celebrate selfishness now. Considering how your actions impact others is something I feel like capitalism has destroyed by showing the world that the only thing you should value is getting ahead by any means necessary, just pretend your actions have no consequences and sell your soul and you too can definitely never be rich too. I truly believe seeing this play out in real life for our entire lives has just shown people considering other people is a recipe to be worse off than being selfish. Capitalism is a plague.
Another_earthling 7 points 2 years ago
That's was pisses me off ever since I started to go by train instead of my car for environmental reasons to work. Like what happend that people don't understand the general politeness anymore. We used to be gentle to each other and that means that I don't force other people to listen to my videos as well.
The last time a young mother gave her little 3 year old child an iPad to watch videos. I'm not sure what pissed me off the most, that it was with sound or that the mother gave an iPad to her kid, because it's well studied how bad phones and tablets influence kids.
Another_earthling 2 points 2 years ago
Noise cancelling bluetooth headphones are so awesome. I also use them all the time. It was just one day where I forgot them and it was a very bad day to not have them with me
Iron_Lynx 6 points 2 years ago
I was in a train replacement coach the other week, and sitting behind me were some guys who were watching YT Shorts or TikTok (Probably the latter) over speakers. I didn't have my own earphones with me, so I had to hear his shit the whole way through.
If I was any sharper, I would have asked: "What gives you the confidence that any random person nearby appreciates what you're hearing?"
FrowingFostek -1 points 2 years ago
I find that this works for most of my interactions with strangers. Question what media they are consuming and start a conversation from there.
If they felt so inclined to play their audio loudly I see it as an opportunity to engage with that.
dragonfucker -3 points 2 years ago
Oooh, interesting! Next time someone is playing music on the bus, drag will tell them their music sucks and they should put on Elvenking instead.
darthelmet 3 points 2 years ago
I know you're joking and that there's a lot of garbage videos out there, but what possible value would there be in sending a novel per second? Can anyone read a novel per second? It only makes sense to use the higher bandwidth to send higher density information like video, audio, or interactive media like games.
spankmonkey 4 points 2 years ago
I have watched many a video that showed how to do a mechanical thing visually in a way that wasn't clear in text and still images. A backyard mechanic describing how to get some rusty piece unstuck while doing it at the same time is so informative in a way that text and pictures cannot replicate.
RickAstleyfounddead 1 point 2 years ago
I thought it was only specific to populated shithole like mine
Nuke_the_whales 1 point 2 years ago
I'm most annoyed by the speaker phone call in the middle of transit
rsuri -1 points 2 years ago
Let's be real, teenagers are always assholes. There's a lot of social pressure for teens to be assholes. Look at any teen movie for example, the plot is pretty much always about how adults are wrong about everything and how freeing yourself to be more of an asshole (and generally louder in every way) is the way to go.
BottleOfAlkahest 10 points 2 years ago
It's not just teens doing. There are full grown adults being audio assholes all over the place.
BigDanishGuy -1 points 2 years ago
Fun fact: allegedly you're legally obligated to rip the noice excreting device from their dirty little paws and throw it into the ground.
deaf_fish -4 points 2 years ago
Everybody has different ears and their brains process sound differently. What might not seem very bad and chill to you can be extremely disturbing to somebody else and vice versa. It's no one's fault, life just sucks sometimes. Be considerate within reason.
SeattleRain -9 points 2 years ago
Just wear noise canceling headphones yourself.
Duke_Nukem_1990 -18 points 2 years ago
Just put in your own headphones. Problem solved. But I guess you can also continue to complain to the void I guess 🤷🏻
QualifiedKitten 3 points 2 years ago
- I do often wear them with nothing playing, but even that impacts my situational awareness, which is even more impacted if I put music on.
- I don't want to be listening to music, a podcast, etc., right now, I just want to hear the low, white noise of the environment. This is especially applicable when out in nature.
FlyingSquid 2 points 2 years ago
Some of us don't always travel alone.
tacosanonymous -21 points 2 years ago
Idc. I’m on the bus and people are always talking, singing, fighting, or whatever. Watching some video is pretty mundane as a social transgression.
FrowingFostek -26 points 2 years ago
Nah, I listen to my breadtube on 11. Its a public space, and if you don't like what I'm listening to I would love to have a discussion about it.
Smoogs 23 points 2 years ago
Yes, It IS a public space. It’s not just YOUR space.
you owe all of us a lot of tax money that went into making that space meant for everyone. Not just you alone.
There’s your discussion as far as anyone doesn’t owe you one.
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At least your sink hole can be blocked online easier these days.
FrowingFostek -2 points 2 years ago
Are loud discussions not allowed in public?
FlyingSquid 6 points 2 years ago
Movie theaters are public spaces. Do you do that in movie theaters while the movie is playing? How about libraries? How about a cemetery during a burial?
FrowingFostek -3 points 2 years ago
Nope I'm there for the movie. Libraries are there for reading and studying. Cemeteries are there for grieving family and friends. I consider those things to be an event that occupies my attention.
If I'm in a public space without something that should occupy my attention, I'll listen to my discussion-based audio however I wanna.
FlyingSquid 4 points 2 years ago
And if someone else doesn't feel like it should occupy their attention and play music in those places? Why is what should occupy your attention more important than what should occupy their attention?
FrowingFostek -3 points 2 years ago
Does someone not monitor disruptive behavior? The theater worker, the funeral home attendant, librarians etc.
If I'm having a discussion do I need to worry about others listening to my discussion?
vaccinationviablowdart -55 points 2 years ago
What a bunch of misanthropes. If you want silence wear earplugs.
I like to live in the world with people and people loooove music. And they love their family going on with gossip. And animal videos. And cartoons and soap operas. And people talking about the love of god. They love watching baseball. Etc.
The one time I can ever recall being annoyed was some guy watching video about covid conspiracies. I thought about arguing with him but I just got up and moved to another part of the train stop.
People's speakers aren't that good, you can easily escape the sound by moving if it is so bothersome. Or, learn to enjoy the company of people who differ from you rather than pretending there is some virtue in being a narrow minded jerk. Life is better.
wanderingmagus 23 points 2 years ago
You're what's wrong with the world.
vaccinationviablowdart -26 points 2 years ago
A chill person who is motivated to get along with others so we can all live in peace. :) Yup a real scourge over here.
SwingingTheLamp 4 points 2 years ago
Except you're not getting along with others, but instead ascribing negative traits (i.e. disagreeableness) to people who may have different neurobiology, instead of having empathy to try to understand how they may experience sensory input differently than you do.
Misophonia, PTSD, autism, ADHD, hypervigilance, and more. There are lots of reasons that loud videos on a phone in a public space can wreck somebody else's day that they have no control over. Please have some empathy.
FlyingSquid 5 points 2 years ago
I love music. That doesn't mean I'm going to love the music you're listening to. Or want to hear it right then even if I do.
Am I going to want to hear someone playing upbeat ska after I just found out my mother died? No, I'm not.
Basic courtesy for others goes a long way.
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You phone shouldn't make any sound whatsoever when you're in public period.
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