That post seems to be missing.

Kyle_The_G 396 points a year ago

I'm glad I jumped ship back during the ban on 3rd party apps. That was it for me.

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MrVilliam 106 points a year ago

Same. I had even paid for the paid tier of my 3rd party app because it was such a good value to me that I wanted the devs to have some of my money. Thanks to that app, I was on the site more and pretty much never via computer anymore.

I think it was for the best though. Quality over quantity here. I find it to be far less toxic on Lemmy overall. It's like how people tend to be nicer in a small town because you know you're gonna run into these people over and over again, but the big city you came from had more variety in stuff to check out. Definitely a trade-off, but I think it's worth it to have this much more pleasant space that isn't so packed with content as to be addictive. Good vibes.

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datavoid 34 points a year ago

I've gone back to reddit a few times from searches, and after spending time away it is really apparent how negative most of the comments over there are.

For example, anytime someone asks for help, someone always has to show up and get angry that they didn't search instead of asking. Then a third person shows up and says that a search brought them to this thread.. and no one ever answers the question. Thanks reddit!

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Pips 6 points a year ago

There are some instances where Reddit is still a great source of information just due to the sheer size of the community. But there's a lot more shit to wade through after the exodus a couple years back. I haven't signed back in for years.

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Kyle_The_G 5 points a year ago

Its improving over time, I think it'll find a decent grove as more communities pop up. I find the comment sections really engaging too I've had some solid conversations over here.

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Tylerdurdon 40 points a year ago

Yep. When RIF was killed, I closed that door immediately (was not easy). It was to be expected though, I think. Once a site reaches critical mass, money interests enter the picture and greed can always screw up a good thing. It's a shame.

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samus12345 33 points a year ago

I don't even use any apps and was just planning on boycotting it for a few days in solidarity. Then Greedy Little Pigboy made his statement about how everyone will come crawling back and that was that.

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Kyle_The_G 17 points a year ago

Oh i didn't even hear about that. Fuck spez.

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samus12345 6 points a year ago

The memo is in this article, if you're curious.

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Kyle_The_G 4 points a year ago

thank!

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JustARegularNerd 5 points a year ago

This is the actual reason for me too. I'm making a point to never visit that website again.

There's exceptions like when searching for troubleshooting help and a relevant result happens to be on Reddit, but otherwise I avoid it as much as possible.

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samus12345 3 points a year ago

I figure as long as you visit with adblock enabled and don't post anything, you're not contributing to them in any meaningful way.

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JustARegularNerd 3 points a year ago

Agreed, and to be fair I still stop in at niche subreddits I used to follow to see what's new, but never logged in.

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kernelle 13 points a year ago

Same, my mouth dropped reading the article.

Obligatory fuck spez

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mac 7 points a year ago

Wild that that was almost 2 years ago now..

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IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol 4 points a year ago

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roguetrick 3 points a year ago

That's the truth. It was tone deafness, a lack of responsiveness, and a clear lack of principles that made me leave during that.

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Strider 2 points a year ago

Me too.

Man people really like taking a beating.

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Nima 168 points a year ago

imagine charging for displaying content you didn't even make.

the balls are astounding, but this ain't gonna go well for them.

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JackAttack 49 points a year ago

I disagree. I hate the decisions they make and personally, along with you, I think it's idiotic.

But while I hate on them, they will get away with it. Theyre not stupid. The decisions don't align with its users but it will still work.

Look at netflix raising prices for arguably worse content. Working for them.

Reddit; Charging for the API essentially killing almost all 3rd party apps. Not sure the effect but reddit doesn't seem to really be hurting. Users want to move but reddit is just too good. I even still use it because the user content on there is amazing. I try to ask all my questions/have discussions on lemmy, but I'm one person. Reddit has infinity more always contributing. I think the management sucks, but the platform just isn't fully rivaled yet so they can keep milking their audience.

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kinkles 23 points a year ago

Netflix was always a paid service though. I don’t know if people will want to pay for something they’ve had for free for over a decade, especially if the free subreddits will still exist.

I’d also imagine that for any paid subreddit, someone will make a free version with similar content.

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jumjummy 3 points a year ago

Oh I’m sure that for one reason or another many of these free subreddits will end up migrating. Feature/moderator tool stagnation, potential payment or rev share models, plain old BS reasons to close existing subs.

Whatever the excuse, their next move will be to shift big subreddits over, maybe starting with popular but more niche subs, then pivoting from there.

Anything that is niche, dominating in terms of Internet presence for that interest, and potentially tied to folks who have more disposable income.

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samus12345 5 points a year ago

I agree that it won't go bad for them. It costs them almost nothing to implement and when you have a big enough userbase there are always rubes who will pay for anything you charge for.

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JuxtaposedJaguar 3 points a year ago

I thought Tinder's most expensive tier costing $500/month was a joke, but it's actually a thing. Someone somewhere is paying $500 for Tinder every single month. Wild.

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catloaf 2 points a year ago

It's for people with that much money to waste. Saudi princes and the like.

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RobotToaster 2 points a year ago

Reddit; Charging for the API essentially killing almost all 3rd party apps.

The secret is they made it easy to bypass, the API still works if you moderate any subreddit, even if it's one you just made. They made it just difficult enough to move the 99% of normie users to their own app.

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SwordInStone 2 points a year ago

Are you certain it works this way? I find it hard to believe

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RobotToaster 5 points a year ago

Yes, I'm still using Joey just fine. A lot of the apps were disabled by their creators, although there's apparently revanced patches for some.

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TORFdot0 -2 points a year ago

I disagree that Reddit has good content but even bad content is better than no content for communities that haven’t been built here yet

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dreadbeef 27 points a year ago

This is probably targeting a adult content creators, aka trying to get a finger in onlyfans' pie

source: my ass, but I'm just smellin where money's goin is all

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treadful 10 points a year ago

If the paid subreddits pay out to the creators, that seems like an okay feature. Also dipping into the Patreon market.

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JuxtaposedJaguar 13 points a year ago

Repost bots are already rampant on big subs, but it would get so much worse if those bots could generate continual revenue.

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mostlikelyaperson 2 points a year ago

Yeah that’s pretty much the only real market I can see for this.

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ShepherdPie 18 points a year ago

Not to mention that paywalled content being moderated by unpaid volunteers.

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Blackdoomax 5 points a year ago

And commented and reposted by bots.

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JuxtaposedJaguar 2 points a year ago

Some mods would do it. I don't know why, but they would.

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hansolo 6 points a year ago

It's like using the failed Reddit Gold lounge as a business model. A sub of awkward dudes that paid to be there and random people passing through and not sure WTF is going on with the awkward party.

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Korhaka 3 points a year ago

Have they stopped that now? I remember being in it at one point. I didn't post and didn't really look at it

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hansolo 3 points a year ago

Yeah, a couple years back it went away, replaced by super stickers or some dumb thing.

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cyberpunk007 4 points a year ago

I'm going to frame your comment and sell it!

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danc4498 3 points a year ago

I was thinking a profit sharing concept for the people running the sub would make sense. I’m sure that’s not what it is though.

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sphxre 130 points a year ago

Hi, I think I’m doing this right. Just joined Lemmy lol because of this. Can people see my comment?

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dantheclamman 31 points a year ago

Yes! Welcome to the fediverse

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atx_aquarian 22 points a year ago

One of us!

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mysticpickle 17 points a year ago

Welcome!

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Sho 15 points a year ago

One of us!

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Regrettable_incident 11 points a year ago

Hi mate

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RatzChatsubo 9 points a year ago

Happy cake 🎂 day!

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IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol 9 points a year ago

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MeThisGuy 7 points a year ago

si

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robbinhood 6 points a year ago

Same here.

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Dil 6 points a year ago

yep, even from my solo instance

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TrumpetX 5 points a year ago

hunter2

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Grassgrowz 5 points a year ago

yes we can :) welcome!

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LeanSock 5 points a year ago

One of us!

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InEnduringGrowStrong 3 points a year ago

Not only do I see your comment, it's not yet buried even 5 days after you've made it.

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MisterFrog 1 point a year ago

Awwww yeaaah. Welcome friend, stay a while

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TheFeatureCreature 82 points a year ago

Good news for Lemmynites.

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BedSharkPal 44 points a year ago

Lemmings?

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Potatisen 18 points a year ago

Lemlords?

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MintyFresh 12 points a year ago

Lemmyburghers

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catloaf 4 points a year ago

Lumbergh...

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roguetrick 1 point a year ago

Lemmards

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WhatAmLemmy 4 points a year ago

I'm more of a LemSerf

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Ghostalmedia 24 points a year ago

Bad news is that we’re still not setup for Reddit-level user counts. Lemmy needs much better moderation tools to allow communities to stay on top of reports.

Hopefully a lot of new users will also produce new people contributing to Lemmy. Or, maybe some people will form some sort of nonprofit that allows dedicated designers and engineers to continually work on Lemmy. When people contribute as a side gig, most give up after a few months. Most of the Lemmy clients that were build during the Reddit APIocalypse are no longer alive.

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Dil 1 point a year ago

We have plenty of clients tho, arctic, mlem, voyager, my favorite thunder, are all available on ios and there are more, they all get updates

For desktop phtn and tesseract are solid.

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MrNesser 3 points a year ago

Lemmites?

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bromosapiens 81 points a year ago

I just left, deleted my account of 15ish years tonight, no regrets. Happy to be here.

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phoenixz 18 points a year ago

I left 2 years ago from my 13yo account, deleted everything as well

Obligatory Fuck You spez

No regrets, I love Lemmy

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otp 14 points a year ago

With the API changes, I became read-only (without an account) on Reddit.

I now skim the communities that don't really exist here.

... it's actually saved me a lot of time now that I can't (and thus don't feel the need to) debate local politics with morons anymore!

... unless and until they come to Lemmy.

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bromosapiens 6 points a year ago

Looking forward to having more conversations with fewer people. I’m not trying to argue politics anymore. It’s fruitless.

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Dil 3 points a year ago

The energy and time I've saved not arguing on reddit is wild, I initally came here defensive and its been so nice

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shortrounddev 9 points a year ago

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bromosapiens 4 points a year ago

Yes same. I don’t want to be stressed out by the internet anymore. I want internet for millennials back.

Nice to meet you, everyone’s been so lovely thus far.

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RufusFirefly 4 points a year ago

I've been online since the late 80s and the Internet, generally speaking, has gone to shit. I've been on Reddit for 16 years and it's been going down the tubes for a while now. Too many people, overzealous mods and now a soft paywall? Yeah, I'm done.

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Boourns 3 points a year ago

Same thing here... I only just discovered Lemmy. I don't know how I managed to only discover it now. But so far so good. It's not quite as active but that's okay, Reddit used to be the same way and was actually better then.

I do feel like the old parts of the internet were decentralized and based on protocols, not single websites. So this is very refreshing and feels like getting back to the roots.

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Fashim 9 points a year ago

Welcome, I joined here after the API protests. It's a smaller community so content is slow to move but it's nice to have forums where you're having constructive conversations with people, not a huge amount of bots or repeated to death catch phrases

Enjoy this little bastion before it attracts mainstream attention. :)

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wise_pancake 8 points a year ago

Welcome!

The fediverse situation has been improved a lot since the first API migration, hope you enjoy it here!

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Lvdwsn 2 points a year ago

Same bromo, finally felt like it was time. So many good memories on Reddit for me over the last 14 years but finally felt like it was the right move to no longer give it my attention!

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MeThisGuy 1 point a year ago

thére are dozens of us

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daniskarma 67 points a year ago

Ok tidy up this place. We have visitors coming soon.

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robbinhood 21 points a year ago

The announcement is why I created a username here. I doubt I'm coming alone.

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FinishingDutch 8 points a year ago

Welcome! We can definitely still use a few more people, especially if they’re willing to contribute to content.

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interdimensionalmeme 6 points a year ago

Still no frictionless account migration...

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nailbar 13 points a year ago

What's to migrate other than your name? My reddit usage was limited to lurking so I genuinely don't know.

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interdimensionalmeme 1 point a year ago

History, reputation, relationships (this a nuch bigger problem on mastofon) (yes migration as a lurker is easy)

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JimmyMcGill 1 point a year ago

How do you even migrate history? Would people even want that

Reputation definitely not. Also who even cares about reputation

Subreddits you can migrate in some apps at least

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JimmyMcGill 2 points a year ago

On Voyager app you can “migrate subreddits” at least

Not sure what else would even be feasible

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MeThisGuy 6 points a year ago

well Hexbear is just about gone so that should help

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Dil 2 points a year ago

great timing for them to lose both of their domains

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LandedGentry 63 points a year ago

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K1nsey6 11 points a year ago

It will be the same types that buy a blue check for Twitter, like it's a badge of honor to pay for free services.

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EngineerGaming 3 points a year ago

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IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol 1 point a year ago

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LandedGentry 1 point a year ago

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daggermoon 51 points a year ago

That's why I left. I regret nothing.

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Captainautism 21 points a year ago

I’m so glad I left.

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Brown_dude69 44 points a year ago

Just came to lemmy again after learning this shit!! mass exodus coming soon

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CrowAirbrush 9 points a year ago

I wouldn't be too sure just yet, seeing how annoying youtube and it's ads have gotten yet it isn't replaced still.

We might have an increase, but plenty will never leave.

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IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol 11 points a year ago

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meldrik 1 point a year ago

There’s not the same amount of content as YT, but have a look at the pinned post in this community about channels to follow: !peertube@lemmy.wtf

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zarkanian 7 points a year ago

YouTube hasn't been replaced because adblockers still work.

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renegadespork 4 points a year ago

Youtube is probably the most difficult platform on the internet to replace. Video content delivery is extremely resource heavy and technically complicated, especially once you start to scale. Many, many competitors have attempted it over the years, and while some found their niche, none of them have achieved anywhere close to the scale of Youtube.

It took decades of Youtube to become profitable, only doing so after achieving mind-boggling economy of scale. The majority of humans on earth have used Youtube. About half of all (global) internet users use it monthly. I don't know if any other platform can claim stats like that.

Youtube is one of those platforms that only exists because it got a head start in the unique conditions of the early internet. I don't know if it's even possible to create a true competitor, though I could see multiple platforms taking over different niches.

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Laser 1 point a year ago

This is what people always seen to ignore about YouTube. It's not just another database frontend to use generated content. That is definitely part of it, but behind that is probably the largest public facing content library on the Internet with a full video recoding infrastructure attached. YouTube is the platform for which I understand that they need to monetize.

Sure, nowadays there's also tiktok as another big video service. But I like to think that YouTube is way bigger in most metrics.

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Grassgrowz 4 points a year ago

same here lol. If they paywall subreddits ive been visiting for the past FOURTEEN years, i will lose my shit. by throwing it at the reddit headquarters.

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RememberTheApollo_ 38 points a year ago

You’re gonna pay the mods then, right?

Right?

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xor 5 points a year ago

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Hudell 2 points a year ago

Most likely it's going to be some sort of onlyfans system where people can pay to get access to specific content and the content creator gets to keep a share of it

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sbv 37 points a year ago

I'm surprised they aren't talking about subscriber subreddits. With the amount of porn/OnlyFans posts, I would have thought they could position Reddit as a friendly and familiar OF alternative.

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Death_Equity 21 points a year ago

I wouldn't be surprised if NSFW subreddit are what he is talking about.

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Korhaka 1 point a year ago

They know pornhub still exists right?

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CarbonBasedNPU 3 points a year ago

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Death_Equity 1 point a year ago

It is the Onlyfans girls farming simps.

Keep in mind Reddit wants to wall off NSFW to be more advertiser friendly, and therefore more profitable.

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ShepherdPie 8 points a year ago

I wonder what the legality is of that when people are posting content from these porn sites and reddit is charging users to access it. How is this any different than paid piracy streaming sites?

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OfficerBribe 1 point a year ago

That probably is the idea, to have a competitor to Patreon and OnlyFans. They should have probably mentioned that as an example before some people start thinking /r/worldnews becomes paywalled.

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sbv 2 points a year ago

Seems like a pretty huge opportunity for Reddit. If the article mentioned it, I missed it.

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OfficerBribe 2 points a year ago

It does not mention it and I cannot see any official statement, but that seems like a logical reason. Reddit management however is not famous for being logical so we will see.

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PineRune 1 point a year ago

Probably because OF gets a lot of their business through promoting on Reddit.

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Sakychu 4 points a year ago

So why not cut out OF and keep the users?

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PineRune 1 point a year ago

Risk vs reward. I could see reddit swinging either way depending on which they think smells like more money.

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five82 35 points a year ago

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T00l_shed 26 points a year ago

The api shit they pulled is why i left and never went back

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sugar_in_your_tea 8 points a year ago

Same. I left when it was announced.

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a_wild_mimic_appears 4 points a year ago

i switched to lemmy after seeing the crackdown after the blackouts where they just repo'ed subreddits that didn't stand down - it was clear then that internal forces would not be able to change a thing over there. i couldn't support a site that was doing shit like this. (It's the reason i keep pestering my wife to leave facebook and instagram after zucks kneefall for trump, and switch to pixelfed and bluesky instead; lemmy wouldn't be a good place for her, but i can see her enjoying pixelfed a lot)

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Rusty 12 points a year ago

Fuck Spez

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interdimensionalmeme 3 points a year ago

Thank you spez for killing reddit, please digg faster

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shortrounddev 34 points a year ago

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StupidBrotherInLaw 32 points a year ago

We all float down here 💩💩💩

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HawlSera 34 points a year ago

Do it, please, the subreddits need to migrate here

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A_Random_Idiot 4 points a year ago

well, not all of them.

I can think of a handful I would much rather see thrown into a furnace.

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HawlSera 3 points a year ago

I wanna talk nerd shit about Sonic, Yugioh, and Sims again

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Toribor 33 points a year ago

I'm not on Reddit much these days but every time I am and I see threads with people discussing these Reddit policy changes Lemmy gets mentioned. Usually with people complaining they already tried or couldn't figure it out or that it isn't good enough...

I think as the enshittification marches on they'll be some more exodus from Reddit but generally I think everyone is just getting used to all online social media being a total corporate disaster.

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scaryvicar 36 points a year ago

I just joined yesterday because of this article. Honestly I feel like I’m using Apollo to access Reddit again. My Reddit account was 12 years old and I deleted it.

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cyrano 17 points a year ago

This is a cool guide for starting https://fedecan.ca/en/guide/get-started

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scaryvicar 10 points a year ago

Oh god, you’ve out me down a rabbit hole. Thank you!

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actaastron 9 points a year ago

Thank you! I literally signed up 30 mins ago after seeing Lemmy mentioned a few times on Reddit. I'm at the 'what the heck is this, where am I' stage but feel like I understand how it works a bit better now!

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JimmyMcGill 3 points a year ago

Welcome to Lemmy!!

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Toribor 6 points a year ago

Welcome friend. :)

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scaryvicar 4 points a year ago

Thank you!

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cyrano 5 points a year ago

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JimmyMcGill 2 points a year ago

Welcome

We’re happy to have you here

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Butterpaderp 12 points a year ago

It's not that everyone's getting used to the current hellscape of the internet. Kids born today have never experienced a world without it. I watched my niece playing on my dad's phone, and she was just blasting through every single ad, interacting with every ad until it took her to the install page, and then she moved on to the next ad. People were upset about the tiktok ban cause they didnt care about their data. Shit like that is wild to me, coming from the early internet era.

Unless countries step up with better tech laws, I only see it getting worse from here.

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A_Random_Idiot 4 points a year ago

the internet was better when it was anonymous, where you were explicitly and forcefully told that no one should know anything about you but your handle.

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reiterationstation 2 points a year ago

Lemmy was hard to use a year ago or so.

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A_Random_Idiot 3 points a year ago

No it wasnt.

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Memoria 1 point a year ago

I'm not particularly tech savvy and I found it confusing and hard to parse at first. It was worth it to figure out, because fuck Reddit, but I can understand people struggling with it, especially at first.

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Appoxo -1 points a year ago

Yes it was.

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A_Random_Idiot 1 point a year ago

Been here 2 years. Its just as easy to use as its always been.

I dont know where this sudden anti-lemmy "OMG ITS TOO HARD TO USE CAUSE WORDS ARE HARD I PREFER (insert site with same exact fucking usability" misinformation/propaganda has come from in the past few weeks, but its patently absurd and obviously fake.

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EcoByte -7 points a year ago

Honestly, I was just giving up going here, lemmy is very complicated, also I miss my beautiful snoo :(

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rambling_lunatic 32 points a year ago

Another day of thanking my past self for leaving

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eagleeyedtiger 31 points a year ago

Can't wait to see the mental gymnastics subreddit moderators will perform to defend this!

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schema 25 points a year ago

It was wild how spineless most of them were when the API stuff happened, and it showed how attached they are to their little bubble of power.

And some of them acted even more pathetic with virtue signaling.

Like the r/de mods allowed memes for a full week in "protest". Such rebels... they sure showed spez with that one...

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grrgyle 9 points a year ago

I was proud of them for those subreddit blackouts, but when communities started to come back online after the mods were threatened with replacement - I knew I had to get out of there for good.

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ladfrombrad 4 points a year ago

I managed to stave off the threats until a couple of months ago since someone put a reddit request in. Oh well, fuck spez and reddit.

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schema 4 points a year ago

You have my respect. I'm guessing all the mods with a tad of integrity left during this time, leaving their subreddits closed

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null_dot 8 points a year ago

Yeah it really was pathetic.

Like they took a stand while it was cool, but then capitulated rather than face removal.

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cupcakezealot 30 points a year ago

watch them lock old reddit behind a paywall just because it's the best part about reddit

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CastorSulMush 29 points a year ago

More ads? There's already a bunch of them mixed with posts and comments. What more, force people to watch an ad before loading pages?

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CHKMRK 12 points a year ago

There are ads in comments now?

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BitsAndBites 16 points a year ago

Yep, ads masquerading as comments. It's awful. I'm so glad I moved to Lemmy.

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underfreyja 11 points a year ago

Yeah, people like me and I assume you, who used to browse reddit via a third party app or with RES + an adblocker on pc did not see it but it's a bit insane how much ads there's already on reddit right now. I migrated to GNU and firefox last week and forgot to add the extensions as I was just looking for some information in the Endeavour subreddit and I was shocked at the state of "default" reddit.... I'm glad I left and I hope most of the userbase will...

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aushtan 3 points a year ago

Yea ads have been in comments for at least a year now

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Krudler 3 points a year ago

They snuck them in during some AB testing like 5 years ago, they didn't stick though obv

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ekZepp 27 points a year ago

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Semi_Hemi_Demigod 26 points a year ago

Man this reddit site sounds awful

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puppycat 18 points a year ago

i really wish there was an open source alternative to it :(

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Lost_My_Mind 4 points a year ago

looks around

.......wait.

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Absaroka 26 points a year ago

Late this fall, after all of the nonsense on Reddit, Facebook, and Instagram I asked myself a very simple question.

"Is the reason I joined these sites still valid? What do I actually enjoy about social media these days?"

The answer was basically "rose colored glasses."

I joined **Reddit **after the 'deaths' of Slashdot and Digg. It became my source to get new and interesting content I probably wouldn't have found otherwise. Now it's bots arguing with bots and 75+% of the content is just recycled shit by people trying to make money. Much of the rest is from people trying to manipulate you.

Delete.

I joined Facebook to keep in touch with my friends and family - especially those I don't see often. Over time, the amount of good content from people I knew dropped to maybe 25% of my feed. Most of it now is AI-generated bullshit or more of the same recycled content you see on Reddit.

Delete.

I joined Instagram to share some of my landscape photos and view some of the great photos some close friends were sharing. Over time that became less and less. Queue the recycled and AI-bullshit content.

Delete.

So, I challenge everybody to ask themselves do they actually enjoy social media? Do these sites actually add value to your life and in any way remain true to their promise when you joined them so many moons ago. Are you actually making any connections with people? The 'social' in 'social' media? Or just watching people talk at each other, not to each other.

After answering those questions, the answer about whether to stick around is pretty clear.

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samus12345 16 points a year ago

Reddit, Facebook, Instagram:

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IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol 2 points a year ago

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stoly 2 points a year ago

I had the exact same experience except that I never got onto Insta because Meta bought it.

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Dil 1 point a year ago

Real af, I always talked about missing old reddit and didn't realize the experience I missed was budding over here

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rando 26 points a year ago

Hopefully this will drive even more users to switch over. I find myself finding Reddit less useful as time passes by

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shyguyblue 14 points a year ago

Whenever i search for a problem now, most of the posts that contain actual answers are more than a year old, and increasingly out dated.

Fortunately, Lemmy is tech savvy and small enough that I can ask questions without worrying about the down vote brigade.

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Dindonmasker 10 points a year ago

Yea and sometimes these older posts are filled with answers that just say "this user deleted all their data using "whatever service"".

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ShepherdPie 6 points a year ago

Same I hardly ever find useful answers on reddit anymore. Most useful links have been from the native forums of the very product I'm trying to find answers for.

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samus12345 3 points a year ago

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Dil 1 point a year ago

Theyll prob ban hella ppl for commenting/posting about these changes forcing them to come here lol

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magnetosphere 24 points a year ago

Reddit has gotten so bad that it’s funny. I love reading about whatever awkward, bumbling cash grab they’re trying next.

What’s a good word for constant, ongoing enshittification? Diarrheafication?

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latenightnoir 9 points a year ago

Funny and sad at the same time, to be honest... That douche busted up a lot of awesome communities with wonderful people, and he's on the right track to ruin things completely...

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cyberpunk007 6 points a year ago

In the name of profits.

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baggachipz 4 points a year ago

Don’t be mistaken, he and his board will make tons of money from this. Everyone is rooting for the demise of the site, but the bad guys will win. So what everyone liked will be gone and dead, and those parasites will be even richer.

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njordomir 24 points a year ago

Is there anywhere I can find a complete scrape of Reddit threads and comments from before the 3rd party app apocalypse? There was a lot of useful info shared on there, but I don't want anything to do with what that site has become. I'm happy just to CTRL+F a big dataset. It'll probably still work better than either Reddit or Google does nowadays. Without media I imagine I could fit it somewhere.

Also, Spez is a greedy little pig boy.

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MunkysUnkEnz0 7 points a year ago

Yes, there's a torrent somewhere...

https://academictorrents.com/...

This is what I could find with a quick search, but I know there's a larger database backup.

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Bonskreeskreeskree 2 points a year ago

We really need efforts made to bulk upload historical posts of value to lemmy. If done right, we could significantly expand the amount of subs and content, even if they are ghost towns initially with just the old posts from reddit. Build it and they will migrate.

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MeThisGuy 1 point a year ago

are you going to use it to train your deepseek?

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EngineerGaming 3 points a year ago

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njordomir 2 points a year ago

I never understood the desire to search in conversational language via AI. It's gone to far for my taste. I just want to be able to scour a huge volume of info for my exact search terms, maybe with a few synonyms or misspellings included. Google and AI keep trying to assume they know what I'm looking for, but they're always wrong (intentionally wrong based on their own motives).

The reason the dataset interests me is that search has gotten so bad that I can't get any non-corporate information from search engines anymore, just more pig swill, chumbucket ads, and misinformation slop. Anything I search for would probably give better results if I just searched old reddit, Wikipedia, and a few other datasets locally in a simple way. Not sure what software is best to use for something like that, but I'd like to collect a few mostly pre-AI datasets now to get the ball rolling before you can't find those online anymore either.

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needthosepylons 21 points a year ago

What's Reddit? A clone of Lemmy?

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tiaxcrystal 21 points a year ago

That's why I'm here. Just made an account. Sick of everything being a goddamn subscription.

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harrys_balzac 20 points a year ago

So, what's the stage after "enshitification"? "Enspezed?"

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boatswain 4 points a year ago

What we're seeing with Reddit is just the first stage of enshittification: making things worse for the end users who have been captured by network effect and what used to be a good service, in order to benefit advertisers. The second stage is making things shitty for the advertisers who have been captured by all the captive users. Paid subs are probably a harbinger of that kind of thing, but I don't think advertisers are locked in enough to be really stuck yet.

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Grassgrowz 4 points a year ago

entshitification 2: electric boogaloo

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HairTransplants 20 points a year ago

i hope there is a mass migration here

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JimmyMcGill 8 points a year ago

The more they do shit like this the more they will

I mean, honestly Reddit is a dead site walking. At this point is not if it will “die” but how fast and I guess more importantly where will its users go. Hopefully here but who knows

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wirebeads 18 points a year ago

Looks like I dropped Reddit at just the right time.

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brucethemoose 4 points a year ago

If you don’t mind me asking, how did you find it?

There are reports of Reddit banning Lemmy mentions, and Google searches floating “Lemmy is bad” Reddit threads to the top.

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return2ozma 7 points a year ago

I came over to Lemmy during the Great API third party disaster. The exodus had commenters saying to come over to Lemmy.

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eugenevdebs 4 points a year ago

Same, word of mouth is how I found lemmy. Beehaw, then a few others, now I'm here on db0.

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wirebeads 4 points a year ago

I googled Reddit alternatives. I see Reddit as turning into just the next Twitter cesspool. There’s no longer any constructive conversation.

The problem is you can’t have real conversations that stoke any flames because they’re a public company and answer to the shareholders, so they, reddit, deem what is appropriate to be posted.

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wabasso 3 points a year ago

It was word of mouth for me. But now you’ve got me curious about occurrences of the term Lemmy on Reddit.

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golden_zealot 1 point a year ago

Indeed, and welcome to you.

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Eezyville 18 points a year ago

As much as we'd like to joke about the sudden influx of new Lemmy users that will result from this lets all be real, it will be a few new users. Most Reddit users will accept whatever is thrown at them from that company while crying about it on Reddit. I don't know what the phenomena is but it seems that most people would rather stay on the bad platform than try something new and slightly different. I'm cool with that, I like niche platforms.

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shortrounddev 6 points a year ago

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Dil 2 points a year ago

Its a toxic relationship, I literally could not leave, became aware of lemmy maybe two months before I left and always had the intention to make an account but put it off til I was perm banned, looking at my notifications I was getting less replies than ever. And if ppl replied it was to actively not be helpful or tell me to do anything other than answer my question.

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designated_fridge 2 points a year ago

The key part here is that (at least initially...) they won't put any existing subreddits behind a paywall. So users' habits won't really be interrupted.

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MeThisGuy 1 point a year ago

if it's the same amount of ppl trying out Linux we might be going places

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stoly 15 points a year ago

I have eaten far too much popcorn this far, but will keep watching the collapse. My account is 17 - 18 years old at this point but I have not logged in for at least a year.

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redditsentme 14 points a year ago

i too deleted my 15-Year Club reddit account

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Jhex 14 points a year ago

What's "reddit" and why does Lemmy seem obsessed with it?

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sma3in 13 points a year ago

fuck /u/spez

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db2 12 points a year ago

If small dick energy had a face it would be Steve Huffman's.

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Lost_My_Mind 4 points a year ago

Wait, I thought he was the guy who had the woflds most punchable face....

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db2 2 points a year ago

They're not mutually exclusive.

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bilb 1 point a year ago

His dick isn't small, I sucked him off once

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TomMasz 11 points a year ago

Enshittification intensifies.

spez is slow walking Reddit to the graveyard.

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Captainautism 6 points a year ago

It’s slowly becoming twitter/x

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TomMasz 6 points a year ago

It's been obvious for a while that spez is trying to be a Musk/Zuck.

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Brewchin 1 point a year ago

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Littux 11 points a year ago

r/spezholedesign

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fakeplastic 10 points a year ago

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HikingVet 2 points a year ago

Yes.

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Bonskreeskreeskree 10 points a year ago

In order for lemmy (or any alternative) to really take off, efforts need to be made to mass migrate content. The biggest inhibitor of adoption is the lack of communities, and the user submitted info backing them. Not only would it be beneficial for alternatives to have this on their servers, efforts should be made to index and back up the mountain of how to and general hyper specific sub reddit information for the good of society. The world already lost so much during the last purge of users comments and posts, further enshitification of reddit will only lead to more getting lost. Are any groups working to scrape all (or the most important data) from reddit and break it out in a searchable format here?

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merari42 6 points a year ago

That is something that some tech savy Lemmy users could already easily do. I repost stuff from all over the web. But some systematic preservation of good old subreddits aught to be automated.

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reiterationstation 3 points a year ago

Well Reddit started off with a bunch of sock puppet accounts to make the site look larger than it was. Now they have bots doing that so when you refresh Reddit it’s always new. Back when it was good there was a point where you’d just run out of Reddit. It was a meme. They figured out how to stop that feeling.

But that feeling is good! We will have to get used to the fact that real human sites don’t constantly update if we want nice things.

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RufusFirefly 9 points a year ago

Lemmy can expect some inbound traffic

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Jackhammer_Joe 9 points a year ago

Get fuuuuuuucked, Reddit

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purplemonkeymad 9 points a year ago

How is this new? Reddit gold gave you access to the subreddit that only gold members could access. It didn't have anything good in it as everyone would rather have a larger reach.

If he intends to convert an existing sub to it, he will quickly find how much people are happy to more to a new sub.

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Paradox 8 points a year ago

I almost wish Elon would buy it, so he can "manage" it like he did Twitter

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Link 7 points a year ago

One could argue they already did that with Reddit Gold and /r/Lounge.

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False 6 points a year ago

The lounge is trash content anyways.

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billwashere 7 points a year ago

Man I kinda thought they had already hit enshittification bottom. And then they bring out the backhoe and dynamite.

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mrhenry77 7 points a year ago

great, hopefully more people leave the sinking ship

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lefixxx 7 points a year ago

Please reddit, make more bad decisions faster so people can overcome switching costs finally

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Toneswirly 7 points a year ago

Its never been a better time to ignore reddit

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False 6 points a year ago

I can't imagine what sub-reddits they think people would willingly participate in that are paid-only. Decreasing visibility and potential participation group automatically makes those worse in most cases.

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samus12345 8 points a year ago

Porn?

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False 5 points a year ago

Yeah, actually. I could see them taking on OnlyFans if they wanted to. But I think they want to be more mainstream than that.

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Lettuceeatlettuce 6 points a year ago

Second influx to the Fediverse?

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ZeroCool 5 points a year ago

Yep, he’s been talking about it for awhile. This is not new information.

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LovableSidekick 5 points a year ago

Reddit: Here's another reason not to use our site.

Users: Ok bye.

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Kalkarino 5 points a year ago

It’s crazy how everything slowly turns into shit in the end

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melroy 5 points a year ago

Welcome to Mbin ;)

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Lost_My_Mind 3 points a year ago

Mbin, piefed, Lemmy.....wherever.

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Dil 1 point a year ago

the threadiverse

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odelik 4 points a year ago

What I find hilarious is all these companies doing this shit after all the advancements in programming languages and paradigms in the last few years.

Thanks to tools like Node.js, React, Flask, Reflex, OpenAPI Gen, GoLang, and more, people that are fed-up and have the know-how can stand up competing technology in record time.

I look forward to see what comes out of this corporate power grab. Hopefully there's not a lot of pain and suffering alkng the way.

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ZombApoc 4 points a year ago

It does seem like a lot of ads for "3% of inventory". I can't ever see a reason to pay for a subreddit.

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andxz 4 points a year ago

By far one of the easiest decisions was jumping on over here - and I barely understand it half the time.

Second best was ditching Facebook like it was cancer.

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XeroxCool 4 points a year ago

"more ads" as if it isn't already as flooded as meta sites.

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xc2215x 4 points a year ago

Not a great decision from Reddit.

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hesusingthespiritbomb 3 points a year ago

I feel like this is gonna be a cash cow for reddit, just not in a way spez can just openly talk about.

A huge portion of reddit is OnlyFans promos. Reddit is making zero off of all this, because traditional advertising doesn't want to associate themselves with porn. A bunch of these "paid subreddits" will basically be a reddit's attempt to compete with OnlyFans.

I honestly think it'll work. There's a lot of money in porn.n

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Cheems 3 points a year ago

Wave incoming

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arunshah240 3 points a year ago

After reddit goes paywall It's time to Lemmy

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Dezzillion 2 points a year ago

RIP Reddit

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Hawk 2 points a year ago

There's nothing on Reddit anymore. It's really unfortunate but I don't see how this is going to help them regain any consistent user base.

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sol6_vi 2 points a year ago

Glad I was finally early to something for once. It's been nice reading the reddit news from Lemmy for the last year or so.

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CompletePassenger 1 point a year ago

Good thing I discovered Lemmy!

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introvertcatto 0 points a year ago

Sigh unzips pants and fuck u/spez

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werefreeatlast 0 points a year ago

Kholer, American standard, and other toilet manufacturers are scrambling to match Toto's ad popularity in "the go" ad business.

If you've changed your extractor fan recently, you might have come out of the restroom humming something new or maybe something familiar like the McDonalds jingle. But such feats of advertising have never been part of the true #2!. Things like bidet splash modulation... Lara papa pa!!! Right in the butt! Or flush ads! A display banner integrated on to the flush tank, and if you open the lid you'll get ads around the bowl and in the back of the lid.

Clorox is coming up with a brad new cleaning chemical family. If you forget to clean you'll be presented with scum in the shape of the clorox logo and the proper code and link to Amazon.

Oh yes please! Enshittify the one and only sanctuary we believed we had!

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