Yeah, the other day I was consulting with another therapist, and I was telling her how in EMDR therapy I often say “don’t give me the whole article, just the headline” when I want to explain to the client to avoid talking too much during EMDR. she works with teens, and she went “yeah, that will not fly with my clients.”
We came up with “don’t give me the long-form video, just give me the TikTok” as we both felt we were inching closer to the grave, lol.
"Give me the clip, not the VOD." How do you do, fellow kids?
Damn...
I'm Gen Z and I feel like I'd still understand the article analogy, but when I think about my gen-alpha cousins maybe they would need the TikTok analogy...
We came up with “don’t give me the long-form video, just give me the TikTok” as we both felt we were inching closer to the grave, lol.
"Give me the Reader's Digest condensed version."
"How does what a reader eats have anything to do with this? and why would we need a condensed version of that diet description?"
oh god, I'm old.
I’m not a Gen Z but how about, give me the TLDR?
"Give me the Season 1 recap."
I live but to serve.
Primary school age children are horrible at guessing age. One time when I was 16 a group of 6 year olds estimated I was 40. And I don't look old, a few weeks ago, I got carded buying beer, which is 16+. I'm 27.
About a decade ago my employer had an intern present their findings from analyzing some survey data. One of the findings was this:
"People who answer surveys are really old. Like really old. Like thirty."
"no he's like really old. He reads a newspaper"
I think this is a fair dig haha
The fact that 'influencer' is a legitimate job title is proof that humanity is doomed.
They aren't some symbol of the end times or anything, they're just a symptom of the sort of attention based economy we've built up here in America. They exist precisely because you can get paid to shill products while playing Minecraft.
If we reign in the marketing and advertising industries then influencers will fall alongside them.
Or, if we regulate "proper" ads and fail to do the same to influencers, whether on purpose or not, then they will become a primary source of advertising. Depending how this is handled could be a good or bad thing.
It's also one of the few ways to make money available to them that has a chance of making them enough money to live the way their grandparents did. Certainly the easiest to get into.
I work for an influencer now, I went to a reputable film school and have a masters degree. I used to do documentaries on BLM for god's sake.
So are you a one (wo)man band filming/editing their content? I'm not necessarily opposed to doing this with a (good) youtuber if the content is high-brow/interesting/educational etc but the idea of doing it for a tik tok star sounds positively dreadful. In fact I refused such a proposal before because the "stars" were really not my vibe and also they gave some red flags, but at least they were still "musicians" not JUST ad-peddlers.
No, I'm part of an entire team. There's multiple project managers, stylists and other people. We get client briefings and everything, it feels strangely corporate.
I would be ashamed to ever admit that I follow somebody whose explicit job is to influence me. Like, do people refer to themselves as "influencees"?
there were always similar jobs going all the way back to the rennaisance
This.
The TV stations around me are desperate to attract the young viewers, so they always have influencers as guests on their shows and what not, and I simply do not get it.
Today's guest: Billy Bobberson.
What's he famous for? Oh he posts some selfies on Instagram daily and every other post is a sponsored brand promo.
Why the fuck do people even follow influencers like this???
Because most people are stupid. It is easier for stupid people to follow fake celebrities aka influencers, than to read a book or think for themselves.
I'm in this camp too and have made a recent comment (dev angle) but I genuinely believe most people are stupid lately
I'd go further with it (about celebrity culture and influencers) but I think we've heard it all
my genuine shock is just how much people seem to care so much that it affects their daily lives
To me, reaction videos are truly astonishing. Like, the number of videos reacting to some thing typically outnumber the thing itself by the hundreds. People prefer watching somebody else watching something so they know how they should feel about it. It's the modern version of the laugh track.
Streamer on doop? Do they know Zapp?
Kif!
(at least Zapp remembered how to pronounce champagne by that episode)
Name is uppercut but the picture is the hundred (thousand?) Hand slap. Great work.
It's from the sf2 turbo snes box art-- the uppercut is getting slapped out of frame
The fun thing is that none of this stuff is going to survive long-term at all. Databases are backed up onto forms of media that have a very short lifespan. Only material that is endlessly copied forward (like DNA) will still be around, and nobody is going to pay for that kind of archiving, at least not for the generally trivial bullshit that comprises social media. FWIW this fact make me happy.
As civilization has progressed, we've done more and more writing and record keeping and done so an less and less durable media. From stone to clay to papyrus/parchment to paper to film to digital media.
I feel like there needs to be some kind of write once media that's extremely durable and reasonably dense for digital data specifically for long term archival purposes. What's the digital equivalent to carving something on a stone tablet, that a thousand years from now despite age and weathering could be dug up in a field somewhere and still hypothetically be at least mostly readable?
If you want reliable media to last on a timeline relevant to our lives and even several generations, look into M disc blurays. Though, similar to dual layer dvds back in the day, it's much easier to find a writer than the media itself. But it claims lifespans of centuries to millennia rather than decades usually associated with other disc media. They are actually etched instead of just using some fancy ink. Readable by normal drives, too. It's just on the writing side that you need one that can specifically handle M discs. It also supports multi-layers, but those are even harder to find and get pretty pricey.
Still not likely a way to pass information ahead to civilizations even tens of thousands of years away, and even before they break down, a new civilization would need to figure out how to read and interpret them (when we had trouble reading hieroglyphs from known civilizations that we could read directly with our eyes).
But at least they should be relatively safe to write, verify, then forget about for a few decades until you find them and want to take a walk down memory lane. Assuming you can still get a bluray reader at that point, or held on to one. Pack them together and future you or your heirs might be grateful.
What forms of media are you taking about that have short life spans?
I think that as storage density goes up and price goes down, what used to be cumbersome and expensive amounts of data become easily manageable. So the only reasons we loose data will be business or political. Which will also decrease as there's now money in buying failing platforms.
But yeah, I'm also happy none of the social media I created when I was young still exists, and the platforms are buried by the sands of time. Having everything you do on the internet stay around forever feels like a nightmare.
What forms of media are you taking about that have short life spans?
Things like tape drives and optical storage etc. Even if they have lifespans measured in decades (and these things typically don't) that still means they have short life spans in terms of being recoverable in the future. A hundred years from now these things won't be restorable.
I found this report from NIST that estimates tape to last 20 years, CD-R and DVD-R 30 years, and M-DISC 100 years 🤷 (I didn't even know optical was used professionally, and found the term "optical jukebox" to be hilarious :)
But more importantly, an actively maintained storage system will last forever (as long as maintained). And for example AWS S3 Glacier Deep Archive costs just $0.00099 / GB / month*, so you can store terabytes for the price of a cup of coffee.
*Plus extra fees for access and stuff, but the point is managed storage isn't particularly expensive unless you have very large amounts of data or heavy usage.
Even some articles or blogposts are without publish date. This should be illegal.
and we wondered why everything was a GameBoy or a Nintendo for our parents
My routine when I walk into the room where my daughter is playing a game:
I'm not even trying to be subtle about it, but am still not sure she realizes I'm doing it deliberately. Either way, she corrects me with exasperation each time.
"CURTAINS FOR ZOOSHA? K-SMOG AND BATBOY CAUGHT FLIPPING A GRUNT."
CATCH IT TONIGHT ON GREEB AND DONT FORGET TO FLIM FLAM THE POPCHUDZZ GIBGUBBLERRR
These posts feel like Interdimensional Cable from Rick and Morty.
I'm 29 so maybe I'm too young for this statement but if you ask me it's because younger celebrities tend to be the result of nepotism and don't have any actual talents.
The nepotism part has always been true, and talentless celebrities have been around as long as the concept of "celebrity" has, but the category of celebrities "being famous for no reason" did not truly exist until Paris Hilton. Princesses and Kings aren't "celebrities".
Speaking of, Paris Hilton's great grandfather was married to Zsa Zsa Gabor.
Is that the lady from Green acres? It's the place to be!
My friend with young cousins was telling me that kids are using "sigma" instead of "cool" now?
"That's so sigma, bruh."
The fuck?
Start speaking in Greek to them. Asspro means white.
I'm something of an asspro myself
'The fuck" is now "what the sigma" at least that's what I gathered from lurking on shitposting communities
Edit: and I'm deeply afraid of using it around people who don't know what that means. And also around people who do know what it means.
50% of what Gen X thinks is zoomer slang is actually jokes at zoomer slang's expense
wdym I went to SO many rainbow parties as a 9 year old
Personally, I loved the idea of new media. Cable was shit.
After experiencing new media...... there's some good stuff in there, guys. I promise. Just gotta wade through mountains of shit.
There should be some rule like; if you have a preference it can't exist all by itself unless it's watered down or mixed in with every other preference.
Thank all that is good for genres. At least there is some media that can define itself clearly enough and still build enough of a following to self fund.
If its good enough, the news of it will get to me eventually and I will see for myself.
This is how I live now.
This is what it means to be old.
I'm 34.
I used to work at a hikers' hostel on the Appalachian Trail. A group of hikers needed a ride into town but were short on cash. One of them suggested they offer the hostel owner some weed in exchange for a ride. Another one said, "He doesn't smoke weed. He's old, like in his 40s." He actually was in his 50s and bought his weed from me lol
"We are the first to do this." -every young cohort going back through time
Also "the fucking old people caused this mess and are standing in the way of fixing it. We need them to die off so we can turn it around"
There has never been a young generation not saying this. Many of them have been correct too, but few have turned anything around when it's their turn.
Yeah. But if we're talking about Baby Boomers, they really leaned into the "caused a mess and standing in the way of fixing it."
For over 50 years they had every advantage that's now denied young people, and as a cohort, Boomers are the shining example of failing upwards. They now roost at the top of whatever ladder they bumbled up and exist primarily to punch downwards.
So, I don't know that your pattern holds true for the specific epoch of the last 50-60 years, as, for the first time in modern history younger generations are worse off than their parents or grandparents. And that blame can readily be heaped at the feet of "Generation Me," who have broadly, and uniformly worked to maximize their personal wants at the cost of any economic, social, emotional, environmental, or financial impediment that got in their way. Even now, Baby Boomers suck the air out of politics and C-suites across the country, adamant that they are still relevant and that their opinions are as good as facts.
It's hard for me to feel sympathy for them, when instance after instance of what brought us to this point can be directly tied to their behavior.
I feel like GenX said, "The fucking old people caused this mess and are standing in the way of fixing it. We need them to die off so someone else can turn it around, but there aren't enough of us so it's probably up to the younger generations."
We never had a lot of collective ambition, which I guess is good because our parents still won't let go of power.
Fuck im 25 and feel 40, this is why I will not shy away from my day of destined death. I can feel that it'll be before I'm 40 and I frankly want nothing to do with being 40.
One day you'll wake up and realize people born on the year you graduated school can legally vote, drink, etc. A short time later those kids have kids of their own ... and you are ( or are old enough to be ) a grandparent.
The worst part is you'll still mentally feel like you're not much older than your late 20s or 30s.
I dunno, I'm in my mid-50s and I feel like I'm about 100. The world today is just so different from that of my childhood in the '70s.
I'm 38 and I feel 40, and you know...none of it has been worth anything.
Also 25, and looking forward to my inevitable death too!
Luckily by the time you get there I'm sure you will feel it will be yourself soon, and will be more a feeling of existential dread than a fear of loss.
But what makes it sad, death is the harm of deprivation, presupposing lack, loss, or absence of some future goods. At the same time, people deprived of things valuable for them try to acquire them joining some movements or struggling for some privileges.
Perhaps I should've spelled out why I am so willing to embrace death. I do not care about myself and of the general opinion that I could do more for mankind by throwing myself into violence. I wish to make someone I hate or who opposes my end goals bleed out right alongside me, I ain't picky. The problem is that even if I end up like my 3X great grandfather and practically don't age till I'm 70 I would still face some amount of slowdown in my physical or mental faculties, slowdown that may make me less effective.
The only way I could be convinced otherwise would be if I could purge my biological fathers blood from my veins. Or if I do my damnedest to get myself killed and somehow survive. Not like I'm rushing into it, I swore an oath to my friends that I wouldn't do anything unless I get a Stamford bridge.
I'm frostysauce (44) and this is why I drink.
Don't worry, they won't. (at least most of them)
Is that still called a circlejerk?
As somebody who was born in 2007, I have no clue who modern celebrities are either. People consider me out of touch but I have no idea what half of what people around me are saying. The acronyms don't help and I am too scared to search them up.
Woah, 2007ers are 18 now. 👴
I watch NBA basketball and back in the day (1990s) there was exactly one player that was referred to by his initials: Michael Jordan. Nowadays fans use initials (with their jersey number occasionally tacked on as if that's the cleverest thing to do in the world) for almost every player and it's almost impossible to know who they're talking about. For some players this is legitimate (e.g. Shai Gilgeous-Alexander is a mouthful so SGA is a good replacement) but for most it is not.
In baseball now, they like to make nicknames by taking the first initial and the first syllable of the last name. Like J-Hey. It's annoying and unoriginal. Baseball used to have the best nicknames too.
they like to make nicknames by taking the first initial and the first syllable of the last name
Oh god, this is worse than the initials+jersey number thing.
Um, A-Rod has been a thing for a while now.
Listening to what their interests are is a good way to connect with much younger (or much older!) people. I'll happily listen to a kid explain Fortnite to me, or my to grandpa talk about his favourite TV show. I'll ask them some questions about it and get a conversation going.
I mean, are they materially worse than Paris Hilton and Kimberly Kardashian? Or the Jersey Shore crowd? I'm not here to judge.
But I didn't really follow them when I was age-appropriate to care about that shit, anyway. Was too busy reading blogs about the newest feature list of an up-and-coming MMORPG or tearing through the latest edition of my favorite TTRPG, because I was focused on what truly mattered.
At some point, its not an age thing, its just a taste thing. I could probably name more web comix artists and indie board games than C-list celebrities and Reality TV shows, and that's fine.
It's not about caring, it's just about even knowing what business they're in.
I'm an old coot, I know some names like something paul, mr beast or pewdiepie, from when I was on reddit years ago, I know those guys are "youtuber" because I saw the thumbnail, but I have no clue what they do or what they speak of or why they would be famous?!? I don't watch youtube, first because comments are toxics, it takes too much time, who spent hours listening/watching some rants by some guy in his basement?!? I'm like an out of touch skinner :)
Youtubers are different than movie, music, and tv stars.
I'm old school too though, i could be wrong at this point.
You can do all of the above.
I remember in 2010 when someone posted a meme on ragecomics that showed how sad they are that some people still use 'years ago' to refer to the early 90s...
I often need to remind myself that Harry Potter, and Lord of the Rings are not recent movies.
It's the same as being a kid in the 80s, which I was, and thinking The Seven Year Itch was a recent movie. Now, I had seen that movie on TV, because my parents liked it, and I thought it was funny, but never did I think of it as "recent".
Still, you can't tell me that Harry Potter movies didn't happen in the last ten years.
Holy hell, the last movie was released in 2011.
I remember how much anticipation and agony people were complaining about waiting for it, that it couldn't come soon enough.
I recently picked up a new game: RoboCop: rogue city..... It hits all of the nostalgia about the original movie so far. Marching through an office building blowing off people's hands and ripping machine guns off turrets and mowing down rooms full of enemies in all the gory, bloody detail..... It gives me all the warm and fuzzy feelings.
The sound track is on point too.
Hard to believe it's source material is from 1987. The game almost looks as good as the movie did. It's not as polished as big name titles. People will talk and their mouth won't move, some of the idle animations for NPCs is very repetitive and robotic.... But the visuals... MMM. If you liked the original, and want to partake in some thug killing mayhem as Murphey himself, I'd recommend it.
It's actually only $9.99 right now with the Steam spring sale, normally $49.99...fuck. I might have to play it.
I refuse to ever call Harry Potter a classic.
I have never (not asking for info, I can look it up) seen it, just heard it mentioned by name. Couldn't tell you the actors or even the genre off hand.
But I can tell you that every time I hear the movie my brain (for juuuust a second) always thinks it's a Star Trek movie that's specifically about pon farr.
For those not in the know, Vulcans (aka the race of aliens that Spock belongs to), while very disciplined, will get super horny every 7 years. So horny that they will just up and die if they don't bust a nut and for whatever reason they can't just take care of it themselves.
Now I'm no kid from the 60s, but I did hear of it first with Tuvok in the Voyager series. And now that reference is just as dated now as the original show was when I watched Voyager. And I just had a whole existential moment between those 2 sentences in this paragraph. I'm so old now.
I used to be really into new music. Now I have 10 bands I listen to and just hope they keep releasing new albums.
I used to be really into standup. Now people mention it and all I can think to say is "Kyle Kinane is still doing comedy, right?"
I used to be really into movies. The newest I've seen recently is the Bob's Burgers movie.
But hey, at least I'm ignoring a lot of my hobbies these days!
I had no idea there was a Bob's Burgers movie. Im apparently out of touch. Lol.
I'm a school bus driver and my elementary school kids go on about somebody named "Queso" (sp?) on Youtube and I find myself constantly fighting the urge to see what he's all about. It can't possibly be good.
He's a streamer whose chat makes fun of him for being fat. Caseoh.
I mean OnlyFans too
You've seen boomer humor. Get ready for milly mirth
I was online when I was 11 also, back in 94. No google. No yahoo. No youtube. Just non-stop unregulated pornography as far as thee eye could see. Then yahoo showed up and had yahoo chat WITH NO BOTS. They even had a Webcam feature on dialup. I was 14 by then and I remember going into a Webcam room with a woman in Australia in her 40s and she made me watch her use a huge black dildo. The original rickroll was goatse, or this website that infinitely loaded popup windows until it crashed your pc.
Truly a golden age.
You keep joking about Doop and it's going to come true.
I wasn't a huge fan the first couple times I saw this meme but it's growing on me now.
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I was talking to my primary-school age kids about their teachers, and one of them says their next teacher will be Mr Smith.
"He's old," they said, "he must be at least fifty".
I said "nah man. Mr Smith is probably only a few years older than me, early forties I reckon".
They had me with "no he's like really old. He reads a newspaper"
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