Florida schools will test armed drones this fall to thwart shooters
a year ago by artifex to c/nottheonion
Can't imagine what could possibly go wrong with this idea.
anything but the actual, common sense, solution
They don't do common sense over there.
@desmosthenes Indeed. The Onion has been running the same biting headline and article, verbatim, for years. They just change up a few details relevant to the most recent event.
Which is what? Details please. Your solution must be legal and practical. Go.
EDIT: As I figured. Angry children will no real policy ideas, no real laws to be enacted, totally ignorant of how Constitutional amendments work.
I want REAL fucking ideas, real HELP!
Lemmy: "no you"
If you're not adult enough to comment, refrain.
get some of the guns off the streets; particularly automatics and semi autos. those didn’t exist for maybe the first quarter to half of the history of the country. feels like every other civilized country seems not to have these problems like we do.
yea not one second amendment andy is doing shit against tyrannical government lol
Health care provided via taxes, cheaper therapy, better gun laws. Nah, it is the United States, they don't need that.
Unfortunately that's not going to be easy. It's basically political suicide for any party that tries, but additionally would require reworking the constitution. Due to the document's flaws you would need 2/3rds of states or 2/3rds of Congress.
Functionally it's impossible due both to the average American voter and the constitution.
I do not think it is a real problem.
Oh, America.
You must enact this plan without running afoul of the 2nd Amendment. It exists and courts have upheld it to mean a personal right to gun ownership.
Doesn't matter if you like it. Doesn't matter if I like it. The 2nd Amendment is a fact. The court rulings are a fact.
So? Got a realistic plan?
A new constitution. Your government doesn’t give a shit about it, so make a new one.
trump and by proxy his supporters, cherry pick laws (much like many religious folk do with their biblical teachings) and those who enforce them, openly muses and acts on disobeying long standing, precedented law. congress and the supreme court have abdicated any semblance of independence to the culture cult. for example: trump is trying to end birthright citizenship.
all those second amendment defenders cry foul of any changes to it in the name of protection from tyrannical government, yet tyrannical government is here and no one bats an eye.
history is repeating itself, especially when you’re following nazi playbooks. How Hitler Dismantled a Democracy in 53 Dayshttps://www.theatlantic.com/...
there is absolutely nothing normal about what’s going on and yet trigger fingers stand idly by as rome burns
@shalafi Yes and no. 2A does not actually mean what most Americans -- including many working in law -- believe it does. Rationally, it should have no effect at all in our time, or at best has only THEORETICAL effect.
Merely interpreting it correctly would solve a lot of problems. Like all laws, it only has what power we vest in it, and for many years we've vested it with meaning it doesn't really have.
The guy is right. We just love guns way too much to be sensible about all this.
Congress can't make a law that overturns a Constitutional amendment. Doesn't matter if I like it. Doesn't matter if you like it. The 2A exists and the courts have upheld it to mean the right to personal gun ownership. You can pick away at it, with minimal success, but what are you actually doing?
Let more children die.
The "high score" for school shootings was Virginia Tech. Dude got the vast majority of his kills with a .22 pistol. Were you aiming to ban those? Or were you aiming for AR-15s, which account for <2% of all gun deaths? If you're not talking about banning pistols, you've kinda failed right out the gate. Funny how no one talks that talk. What exactly is your policy and how do you aim to enforce it? I'm listening, because I also want this to end.
If you want to trash the 2A, I'm listening, but first you have to tell me you understand what it takes to change the Constitution and how you aim to accomplish that. Easy, right? Go.
So. Again. Practical and legal? Spell it out.
Laws are made up, and the people you elect can change them. Don't tell me that if 100% of the people in the US agreed on something, you couldn't make it happen. The whole creation of your country was illegal by royal laws and that never seemed to stop anyone.
The people you elect are also responsible for finding experts, hiring them, listening to them, and fixing the problem.
So again, my solution is, let more children die. You have to look upwards and to your side for any better solution. Not my job, in my country we had like 2 school shootings in total. It's barely yours. Wouldn't be if it was getting done. When you decide it's yours, get more people on board and demand accountability.
Well how about stricter gun laws. Maybe about back program to get some iff the street. I mean you are the only country who has this problem at this scale so thinking there is nothing you could do is stupid.
That one kid with a flipper zero: hold my juice box
It is so much worse than that
What happens when they can't figure out who compromised the device?
Ah, sniper drones. Like the ones Israel has been using to shoot children in the head.
Tried and tested on Palestinian children, now ready for the open market.
Link?
Mostly I've heard about this from interviews with international volunteer doctors in Gaza
Probably Israel. They've been testing drones with sniper rifles on Gaza. Worse, the list of people to assassinate is generated by AI (Lavendar)
Ugh. It’s . . . Texas.
Lawmakers in the state approved $557,000 in the 2025-2026 state budget to pay for the demonstrations using drones operated by Texas-based company Campus Guardian Angel.
Snort idea. Get there fast and get them down. If, as the article says, the most deaths happen in the first 120 seconds, then time is of the essence to stop them as quickly as possible.
Then again, they could just start feeding people properly and make guns harder to get. But since those are apparently not an option, I guess this is a "best of a bad situation" kind of deal.
NO!!
*snff*
Gotta admit, I have no idea how that one happened.
Everything except getting rid of guns.
What a rotten shithole of a country.
Fortunately they are currently only equipped with non lethal capabilities. So it's going to be fun to watch the consequences of someone hacking into them and people to realize how much of a bad idea this was
Damn, even school shooters get to work from home now.
Betting there’s a contest for it at Defcon 2026
I'm trying to imagine something like this getting installed in my old school in the UK, and it's so bizarre and totally removed from my reality growing up that I can't even picture it.
The whole concept of a robot armed with a lethal weapon just sitting there in my classroom each and every day, waiting for someone in a remote control centre to decide that someone in the room should be killed? I think that would traumatize me a little even if there never was an attack.
I was in a high school that received this active shooter campus wide recognition system. It included a few physical security systems to help autonomously alert if there were gun shots fired somewhere. One of the systems was these green lights inside the normal flourecent lights. They would turn red or flash or something as a visual alert. But the green light cast this weird green glow everywhere in the school and to me it was this eerie constant reminder of the threat. I was only a visitor for a special program for a few days, but even this was a little traumatizing for me. The drone would be terrifying.
This is called over-engineering the solution
I mean, not really. Cause it's not even a solution.
It's more likely a grift some politician is using to pay a friend some money to play with drones.
wait, how are they going to "test" this?
Shit. They still haven't thought of the obvious solution.
Gator's with mounted guns. You're right!
Frickin lasers on their heads!
No no, we need Velociraptors riding alligators and armed with laser cannons.
Of course the password to the school's drone control system was just "admin1234"
Reminds me of the short film Slaughterbots from a while back. 7 years later and it doesn't seem all that much like fiction anymore...
that little film is scary as shit and was always destined to come true
It's on. Shooters will now respond with armed drones.
government to use air strikes to prevent drone powered school shootings
Shooters respond to to air strikes with IEDs.
Random Kid: W...w... We were just shooting spit balls! It's just a straw, please!
ED-209: WEAPON CONFIRMED, ARMING RAIL GUN.
kid reduced to fine red mist
ED-209: TARGET NEUTRALIZED. STATE IF PARENTS SHOULD BE NOTIFIED THROUGH TEXT.
no response
ED-209: VERY WELL, ENJOY THE REST OF YOUR SCHOOL DAY.
drone flies off
Often we see people being demonised and dehumanized for political purposes. Americans basically dehumanize themselves.
As a parent I can't think of anything much more traumatic than losing a child to a gun massacre. It makes me furious. Watching Americans passively do nothing about this for decades has gone from infuriating to blame. I can't relate to them anymore.
I didn't make them sub-human by questioning their race or religion or politics. They made themselves sub-human by ignoring the most basic moral and ethical requirements of human society and family. Watching them kill each other won't bring me joy but it doesn't outrage me as much as watching people in war torn countries being massacred in conflicts over which they had no control.
This was a choice from a weak broken society.
The one where five white dudes who hoarded all the money control everything.
Anything besides sensible gun control.
At a demonstration of the drones at AcadeMir Preparatory High School in South Miami-Dade, the company showed how the drones are capable of using what the company calls “kinetic energy hits” to knock someone over.
I can’t even with this shit 😝
Might be cheaper if you just gave each student a gun.
They walk to school, check all their bags for firearms (take any away that are brought in) ... then after the security check, they are given their own holstered small sidearm that they have to keep visually on them at all times during school hours. It has to stay visible to everyone at all times.
OMG Joey doesn't have a gun!
20 students draw on him
The only thing that can stop a bad guy with a gun is... An idiot with a drone?
Noooo. Pff. Read the article.
It’s a Texas idiot with a Florida drone. So. Yeah.
Why wouldn't you assume it's autonomous?
Skynet for brown people
Oh no, now the shooters have drones!
Stole it from the school.
Having attended school this hypothetical is entirely 100% plausible. More children will be killed by these drones then they end up protecting.
Hacked drones...
Now you can do a school shooting from the comfort of your own home!
I don't deal with children, is this sort of thing not a deal breaker for parents?
And a state-of-the art facility where all the children are held in place by magnets.
Once the drones are taken over by child-shooter hackers, ICBM launches against random schools will be used as a deterrent. Failing that all schools will be closed and the problem with "school shootings" will finally be solved! /s
You jest, but remember that the Dept of Education has been EO'd almost out of existence, currently run by Vince McMahon's wife who is a staunch supporter of "school choice" and charter schools. These are the easiest way to re-segregate schools, put the curriculum back in the hands of moneyed interests, and defund public education.
The trend will be that public schools will have all the kids who are economically disadvantaged, disaffected, badly taught, and unable to be helped by teachers and faculty who are underpaid, understaffed, and hobbled by bad policy, the more school shootings will become a problem that doesn't affect a certain segment of society. Any parents who can, will pull their kids from failing public schools and pay more to have their kids attend other schools, or even homeschool. The fewer kids the public schools have, the more budget cuts will be authorised.
All public schools will ultimately be shuttered, under this plan. School shootings will keep happening of course, but once it only affects rich white kids, it will finally be taken seriously, at least.
Armed with pepper balls
"Once airborne, they offer two-way communication through an embedded speakerphone. They also can break glass, make loud noises, fire nonlethal pepper-spray pellets or take other action within a minute as a first response to an incident. "
"Let's test the new firmware in the district with the most minorities."
You know it will happen. Maybe they'll phrase it differently but the decision will be made.
So do the drones have like, an explosive charge on it to kill the shooters like we use in war right now?
If so why is that at a school?
If not then what do they think a drone is fucking gonna do?
Really, this is the US government terrorizing children and a corporation using them as test subjects disguised as a security measure.
They shoot them in the head. Same as they've been doing with the sniper drones in Gaza.
The article says they will be equipped with non-lethal weapons
unlike Gaza. For now though…
There is no such thing as a non-lethal weapon.
What you mean is "less lethal"
Amen. Doesn't mean guns will immediately be illegal. It just won't be something you can obtain simply for living to a long enough point.
I see no possibility of this going wrong. /s
I can't wait for one of these drones to go rouge...
And red is probably their color too.
So instead of dealing with the actual problem... they're going to add to the problem. Wow. What a fucking liberty.
EDIT: I clearly didn't read the article. Not going to rewrite or delete what I said. Keeping my integrity. Thanks 👌
A drone that size carrying only a go-pro has a battery life of only a few minutes. With all the shit this company glued to it I'm sure the shooter just has to close a door and count to 100 and the thing will fall out of the air.
Jojo's Bizarre Adventure ass shit
So do they just circle over the school until the shooter has killed everyone and leaves the building?
Calling it ai drone watching all American citizens within 5 years.
theres some gnarly drones. like explosive drones that travel in groups of hundreds. theres nothing you can do when a sea of drones come at you endlessly.
And truancy!
I think this seems ridiculous, but there is a genuine problem that isn't being solved in better ways, and a police force who refuse to enter a school under an active threat until it's too late. I guess something is better than nothing?
Sorry, I respectfully disagree.
Too often the "something" which may in some ways be better than nothing, is used as a token solution to soothe the requests of activists.
For example, banning single use plastics really grinds my gears. People feel like they've made a sacrifice, so they must have achieved something. However, everything at the supermarket is still sold in plastic packaging?
As in, its not "bad" that we no longer use single use plastics, but its not worthy of being called progress.
Like on a scale of 1 to 10 for plastic reduction efforts, 10 being "no additional plastic" we're about minus 30. Without this measure we might have been minus 30.2.
2028: there have been 37 fatal school hackings so far this year
ED209 from Robocop was my first thought
A crude emp pulse generator is very easy to make. You could probably do it with just the junk tech everyone has around at this point. Battery, wire, switch, maybe a metal bar. Think a capacitor is the only real thing most people can't just throw together. I mean you could but it takes a little skill.
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