conditional soap

9 months ago by slothrop to c/memes

Sarcasmo 94 points 9 months ago

The 6-in-1 products are great overall but mine struggles with thicker carpet. YMMV

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slothrop 46 points 9 months ago

The 7 in 1 product mentions "shag".

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rljkeimig 37 points 9 months ago

So you can use it as lube?

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aeronmelon 29 points 9 months ago

Anything is a lube if you’re brave enough.

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Sc00ter 7 points 9 months ago

My 8-1 has menthol in it. Do not recommend for lube.

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RickyRigatoni 4 points 9 months ago

They don't mean the floor kinda carpet 😎

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TachyonTele 3 points 9 months ago

Do they mean the kind that matches the drapes?

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user224 3 points 9 months ago

Now I don't know whether you're making a joke about a thick bush or a fursuit.

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OpenStars 1 point 9 months ago

"yes"

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scutiger 2 points 9 months ago

Is that the one that can be used as toothpaste as well?

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JillyB 84 points 9 months ago

When your hair is short, you can wash it with Gatorade and it'll look acceptable. The longer it is, the more you have to maintain it. I'm a guy who grew his hair out.

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Afaithfulnihilist 24 points 9 months ago

I'm a long haired freaky people and have been for almost 40 years but I found my hair is healthier if I rinse it regularly, wash it once or twice a month and condition it at the same time.

I use Nizoral AD (some almost medicated antindandruff thing) and Head and shoulders conditioner twice a month at most.

I still have my long luxurious hippy hair and I'm told there is no recession yet so I got that going for me.

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scutiger 7 points 9 months ago

my hair is healthier

There's no such thing as healthy hair, it's only dead cells. That's why ads always say they make your hair "healthy-looking."

You can keep it looking nicer, though.

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some_kind_of_guy 6 points 9 months ago

There is such thing as healthy skin though. A lot of products will strip the bejesus out of your scalp and cause either dry or oily skin up there

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drath 6 points 9 months ago

As another middle-aged long hair guy who has been approached numerous times by women asking about my haircare routine, I think there are multiple components to this:

  • Hair is most definitely affected by hormones, multiple women told me that their hair becomes straw-like during periods or how they lost a lot of hair after pregnancy and I was like sorry can't relate 😅 I honestly believe if more men didn't cut their hair short they'd be generally better looking than women's, well, until they start balding.

  • Some kind of pink tax or whatever. Every shampoo that I tried in a cute semi-transparent colored bottle that boasted some bullshit like lavender extract, durian aroma, ginkgo biloba seeds and such, has always destroyed my hair and took months to recover. Cheap shampoos in plain-ish looking packaging(pantene, head&shoulders, syoss) have worked well for me, with no noticeable difference from the fancy 5x pricier shampoos that my girlfriend has forced me to try. My cousin even uses plain soda bar and his hair is looking even better than mine.

  • Less is more. It seems like every other woman I know are constantly fucking with their hair all the time. Wash two times a day, apply conditioner, then another conditioner, then a spray, and serum, a gel, and mousse, add perfume on top, mix a whole chemical lab on top of their head, then curl them, then straighten them back up, apply a different tightly knit hairstyle every day, then cut them short because of a break up, then color them, then bleach and color them again into another color, then cut them with a guillotine because that's the trend nowadays, then straight up rip chunks of them out because of stress. Like girl, all you need is to fuck off your hair and just wash them once every 3-5 days, and only rinse on others. Then just let the nature do it's thing, and if it doesn't, you need to pay a visit to a trichologist, dermatologist and probably also gastroenterologist and therapist, not yet another bottle on the shelf.

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mirshafie 2 points 9 months ago

You can rinse your hair with water as much as you goddamn like. Once a week, three times a day, doesn't matter. It's not going to ruin your hair.

But add shampoo or conditioner and you need to be wayyyy more careful what you're doing. Now you're messing with your head's natural oils and it can quickly spiral out of control.

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voodooattack 2 points 9 months ago

Pro tip:

Washing: plain soap (organic/homemade soap is best, not that fancy scented/blended and chemically treated expensive shit). Rationale: plain soap doesn’t have additives (or herbal ones you can control/choose), any chemically treated (and factory made) product will have impurities and other random shit mixed in if they mix products on the assembly lines. (Happens all the time even in medicine!), the “advanced” shampoos are an excellent example: low volume/shared production lines. The contamination that makes chemistry teachers weep and build fly swatters from random equipment. And that’s why cheap products made in high volumes are more effective: minimal unintended chemical interactions because of dedicated assembly.

Moisturising/conditioning/whatever: a light application of natural Shea butter , and one absolute drench once every week or two. The drenching treatment is recommended for the first time though. Rationale: same as the above, plus: Shea butter is what most “good” cosmetics use to begin with (although they most likely synthesise the fatty acids industrially to cut on costs, not sure tbh), but the point is that it has nearly everything your body needs to build healthy hair (though not only for hair, it’s also great for skin care!)

If you try this, you’ll see immediate results after drying, but see the full effect after an entire week of doing it daily. You can thank me then! :P

Also don’t overdo it! Once a day/every two days is good enough.

Rationale: Over-washing/conditioning is terrible for the follicles/scalp in the long term because it prevents your body from building up the natural oils/chemicals it needs to defend you from parasites and microbes that do the damage in the first place! The soap acts like a “reset” button that takes away all the byproducts/dead microbes/skin piling up due to its dual hydrophilic/lipophilic nature that sticks to anything it can bond with, and the Shea butter moisturisation step acts like a temporary replacement for the natural oils you lose in the washing AND gives the body some much needed nourishment/material it can immediately use to rebuild while being absorbed through the skin.

Disclaimer: this is just an informed analysis/observation from empirical evidence, and it is not based on any actual formalised research that I’ve read or studied. (Which might actually exist, dunno because I have an allergy to academia as it currently stands)

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Photonic 2 points 9 months ago

But the real question is: did you apply?

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sga 1 point 9 months ago
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mapu 1 point 9 months ago

I literally do not even use any soap. I just comb my hair under running warm water from the showerhead once a week and it's the healthiest it's been and looked since I finished puberty

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acockworkorange 1 point 9 months ago

Also, testosterone helps maintain your hair looking nice, at least until your body says "I've had enough" and it makes your hair thin and fall.

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r 57 points 9 months ago

tbh I don't think men generally have better hair

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user224 16 points 9 months ago

Last inch of mine look like a 5 year old toothbrush with Y shaped ends.
I don't have a better description for that.

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ericatty 24 points 9 months ago

Those are called split ends. If you have a lot of them, it's best to get a trim (just enough to snip off the split ends) and then try to figure out what is causing them.

You can't repair them. You can only get rid of them and then avoid them. Or keep getting maintenance trims.

With split ends trimming = longer hair over time.

Source: I had them so bad for years that my hair would break off and not get any longer looking. For me, it was too much heat (hair dryer and curling iron every day)

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NKBTN 6 points 9 months ago

Speak for yourself. I have 3mm of sheer perfection

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Agent641 4 points 9 months ago

Ok and what about your hair?

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NKBTN 2 points 9 months ago

Why, I oughtta

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kibiz0r 51 points 9 months ago

Also the specialized shampoo is 15.99, the 17-in-1 everything-soap is 1.19.

But the specialized shampoo is pink, so that you know that’s the one you’re supposed to buy.

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SuperUserDO 7 points 9 months ago

I use the same soap for washing my floors as for washing me. However I don't use it's toothpaste function. Dr Brokers is amazing.

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Serinus 10 points 9 months ago

Bronners

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xxce2AAb 23 points 9 months ago

Assuming there's any truth to that, why wouldn't women just use the 6 in 1 shampoo?

...And man-pants with pockets, while we're on the topic. I suppose there might be issues in the hip-department there, though.

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ViatorOmnium 60 points 9 months ago

I think it's not so much the shampoo but a mix of most men using shorter haircuts and doing less damaging things to their hair, like hair colouring.

And it's not like there aren't specialized shampoos targeting primarily men. I think I never saw a dandruff shampoo marketed towards women.

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xxce2AAb 6 points 9 months ago

Huh. Is dandruff not a thing that happens to women? I wouldn't know.

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ViatorOmnium 21 points 9 months ago

From what I could find, men are more likely to suffer from dandruff than women, so even though women can suffer from dandruff it makes sense from a marketing perspective to focus mostly on men, especially since men are still thought that anything even cosmetics adjacent is not manly.

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DahGangalang 8 points 9 months ago

Its my understanding it does, but is generally far less noticeable (gets caught and held in hair, then washed out when bathing) but is usually cared for / treated by using proper hair products.

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marcos 11 points 9 months ago

Almost everything on the market is shit and will destroy your hair. That includes the 6 in 1 shampoo, men just usually have less hair.

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xxce2AAb 1 point 9 months ago
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Mouselemming 9 points 9 months ago

For the pants, it's partly the hip/waist ratio and partly the extra bunchy fabric in the crotch region.

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Blackfeathr 7 points 9 months ago

Some already do.

And man pants aren't that big of a hurdle to get used to. Just need to take measurements of waistband and inseam and you've got the size to look for in mens pants. Thats what I like about them: they have much better sizing labels than the nebulous/arbitrary size numbers on women's pants.

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xxce2AAb 5 points 9 months ago

Whatever works, right? Right now I'm wearing this really nice pair of sturdy heavy-duty felt-lined jeans from Duluth Trading Company which are supposedly made for women (albeit with perfectly nice pockets) - not that I care one whit. They fit perfectly, and are generally lovely.

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the_q 5 points 9 months ago
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protogen420 2 points 9 months ago

are there even form fitting clothes for man? I just buy the cheapest man pants that are baggy, fit me, is compatible with belts and is made with 100% cotton

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the_q 1 point 9 months ago
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atomicbocks 5 points 9 months ago

When I was in high school the trend was baggy pants and lots of women did wear men’s pants.

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absentbird 3 points 9 months ago

It's nonsense, and men with longer hair who use 6 in 1 have bad results. Longer hair takes more treatment, hair is usually vitalized by oils from the scalp, so the further away from the scalp the more help it needs to stay healthy.

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Tikiporch 17 points 9 months ago

But the hair length of a lioness and lion vs female human and male human is inverse...

I'm beginning to think this meme is just supposed to be humorous!

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SpaceCowboy 4 points 9 months ago

What? Someone is going on the internet and telling jokes? How is this allowed?

What is their agenda? Which nefarious shadowy group are the promoting by doing this?

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mojofrododojo 1 point 9 months ago

antifa high command sent orders to post this at 12:23 zulu time. They're promoting folicularly talented individuals to use their locks to undermine durr furrhurr's comb-over conspiracy

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SpaceCowboy 2 points 9 months ago

I should've known they were up to their old tricks again! Is this coming from their frog division or their unicorn brigade? I suspect chicken man is the ring-leader!

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mojofrododojo 1 point 9 months ago

don't turn your back on any of 'em! they'll rip your face off and sell it to the commies or something

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possiblylinux127 10 points 9 months ago

Pointlessly gendered

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markz 5 points 9 months ago

Meme or shampoo

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ComradePedro 5 points 9 months ago

Both

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NannerBanner 2 points 9 months ago

People.

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Gerudo 10 points 9 months ago

The trick for everyone, use the cheapest shampoo you are comfortable using. Spend the time and money to find a good conditioner for your hair and scalp type. I need antidandruff shampoo and use a light leave in conditioner. You'd think it used $40 products from the salon.

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gerryflap 10 points 9 months ago

I'm sorry, but men's 6 in 1 soap sucks ass. The moment I tried shampoo and conditioner for women, my (at the time short) hair got way better and I never looked back. Now that I have long hair I'm not even going to consider washing with the hair destroyer 2000 again. The image is wrong, the "conditional soap" is way better because it's not just soap.

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umbrella 10 points 9 months ago
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humorlessrepost 3 points 9 months ago

So no washing your hair at all?

Or is there some whitelist of allowed chemicals? I assume at least water, but hopefully some kind of surfactant, too?

And no, I’m not being obtuse, I genuinely never know what people mean when they say things like this. Same as eating “clean”. It usually seems to be “clean means food that seems intuitively healthy to me” and “chemicals are things that seem intuitively scary to me”.

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umbrella 0 points 9 months ago
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HowAbt2day 1 point 9 months ago

My hippie neighbor who uses his own piss twice a week. For real. His beard looks lavish.

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humorlessrepost 10 points 9 months ago

Fun fact though, pee is composed almost entirely of chemicals.

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Lumidaub 1 point 9 months ago

Almost?

Edit: ah. Nevermind :)

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HowAbt2day 0 points 9 months ago

Naturally sources.

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humorlessrepost 6 points 9 months ago

That’s the thing about chemicals, though. Ammonia from a penis is the exact same thing as ammonia from a factory. Despite what homeopaths would say, molecules don’t have a memory of where they’ve been. I suppose I can see an argument around sourcing chemicals from sources that minimize environmental harm.

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umbrella 2 points 9 months ago
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humorlessrepost 1 point 9 months ago

It may be. But it’s not insanely complicated to synthesize NH₂CONH₂, and it’ll be far more pure than getting it from an animal’s waste. You just need ammonia, carbon dioxide, and some equipment (and know how to use said equipment without exploding things, so best to outsource the production).

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swelter_spark 1 point 9 months ago

I've heard it's good for your skin, too. Supposedly, pregnant women's urine is the best.

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Canonical_Warlock 9 points 9 months ago

It's so weird, I've tried various shampoos and conditioners of every type and my hair just seems happiest with the cheapest shampoo I can find with absolutely no conditioner. With anything else I wind up with horible dandruff, hair which gets greasy within 6 hours of taking a shower, or hair which dries out so bad it looks like I got the worlds shittiest perm. But as long as I use some cheap ass generic mens shampoo that's scented like a verb then my hair is fine.

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spacesatan 2 points 9 months ago

Your hair might be addicted to whatever forever chemicals the dollar tree shampoo is made of

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cRazi_man 9 points 9 months ago

Men's shampoo: is this for dry or oily hair?

Yes

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Akasazh 7 points 9 months ago

Itt: people missing the joke conditioner/conditional. It's not that good, but nothing to get mad over either

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Fleur_ 6 points 9 months ago

I think women's shampoo does a better job personally, I like the smell more roo

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humorlessrepost 1 point 9 months ago

I prefer the smell of Kanga, but maybe I’m just older.

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gandalf_der_12te 5 points 9 months ago

I'm pretty sure how well your hair looks (or really, how well you look overall) has more to do with your physical and (importantly) mental health than with what shampoo you're using.

It's just that in the US specifically, the extremely poor mental health of many women has been so normalized that we don't even perceive it as such anymore. It's just that society treats women so absurdly badly, it's not even something i can put into words anymore. And that shows.

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ThatWeirdGuy1001 5 points 9 months ago

I wanna see a girl use guy shampoo and tell us if it works better

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ickplant 7 points 9 months ago

I had to do it after Burning Man cause that’s all the gas station had. Granted, my hair was dirty with mud and unwashed for a week, but still.

It was a horrible mess. The 2-in-1 product didn’t do either job well - washing or conditioning. My long gorgeous hair turned into near dreads and felt so nasty. Never again.

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twinnie 4 points 9 months ago

I’ve been washing my face with shampoo since I saw a meme about it and it’s been fine. I actually got complimented on my skin.

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BotsRuinedEverything 3 points 9 months ago

Let me introduce you to Dr bronners miracle soap. I literally brush my teeth with it, and use it for laundry.

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whitecollarcry 3 points 9 months ago
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TheReturnOfPEB 3 points 9 months ago

shampoo is bad for your head

only using a no wax high protein conditioner scrubbing your scalp then scrubby/combed out rinse will change your hair for the better in two weeks.

all the pollution, sweat, salt, urea, and dead skin rinse out with the conditioner. the oil left on your hair will give your hair body and curl.

for reals.

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NannerBanner 5 points 9 months ago

Oh god, the high protein fad is even making its way into hair care! Ruuuun!

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Deceptichum 5 points 9 months ago
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sparkles 3 points 9 months ago
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user224 3 points 9 months ago

But maybe don't pick the first cheapest thing.
I got some 2-in-1 shampoo+ shower gel that was cheap. Just the first one.

I used it and WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT. Super uncomfortable, cold, impossible to wash off.

"With menthol"
Why would you do that?

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NannerBanner 1 point 9 months ago

Oh, lol, I remember the shampoo with menthol I had. I loved how it actually brought feeling back to my life.

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limer 1 point 9 months ago

I’m mostly bald, use clippers for any survivors; and like to make fun of any conditioner or shampoo. So, I upvoted this post

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rumschlumpel 1 point 9 months ago

Survivorship bias. Men who don't have great hair usually keep it short or shave it off completely, or people just assume that they don't wash regularly.

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Steve 1 point 9 months ago

Nourishing.

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fishos -5 points 9 months ago

Nah, more like:

Man: Washes hair daily. That's it.

Woman: Only washes/wets hair sometimes. Uses lots and lots of various chemicals to force various styles. Lots of blow drying. Hair dyes. Then wonders why hair is obviously chemically and physically damaged.

The problem is most women put TOO much effort into their hair, trying to make it things it's not, and end up damaging it. Men tend to keep it short and simple and their hair doesn't end up as damaged.

Also, you notice the Fabio guys a lot more than you notice the broccoli haired dorks. You remember that one hot guy more than you remember the dozens of unkempt ones. Add in that people who can't grow nice long hair tend to keep it short and you have all kinds of selection biases.

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Rachelhazideas 2 points 9 months ago

Most women have long hair. Long here requires more maintenance. It's that simple.

Stop making pseudoscientific excuses about chemicals to reinforce your own views on gender.

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fishos 1 point 9 months ago

I'm a dude with belly button length hair(for the last 20 years) who constantly gets asked how I do it. It has nothing to do with gender. If anything, it's the misogynistic culture telling you that you MUST do all these things in order to be pretty when most of those things are just getting you to buy more useless products. My hair is sleek and shiny and all I do is use Garnier Fructis shampoo once a week, and their conditioner daily. I let my hair air dry. The end.

But yeah, I'm just some hateful man. Whatever loser. Sorry for pointing out that it doesn't make sense to put a bunch of moisturizer in your hair and then blast it with high heat daily and wonder why it's dry and brittle.

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