and where is the galaxy taking us then?
To visit/fistfight the Andromeda galaxy.
to the Great Attractor
Through a series of peculiar velocity tests, astrophysicists found that the Milky Way was moving in the direction of the constellation of Centaurus at about 600 km/s. [citation needed] Then, the discovery of cosmic microwave background (CMB) dipoles was used to reflect the motion of the Local Group of galaxies towards the Great Attractor.[8] The 1980s brought many discoveries about the Great Attractor, such as the fact that the Milky Way is not the only galaxy impacted. Approximately 400 elliptical galaxies are moving toward the Great Attractor beyond the Zone of Avoidance caused by the Milky Way galaxy light.
We're actually traveling with a lot of friends through the immeasurable heavens.
The Great Attractor is actually a giant construct to escape the universe. https://xeelee.fandom.com/wiki/Bolder%27s_Ring
I'll try spinning! that's a good trick!
Not sure I like the sound of that.
It's ok, the universe is expanding faster than the Milky Way can be attracted.
but it's so attractive
To the Andromeda Galaxy
And we either won’t be invited to the wedding or we will be left behind at the wedding venue.
(When the two galaxies merge we either won’t notice it except seeing the stars dancing in the night’s sky or the planets of our solar system will be flung out of orbit and turning Earth into a rogue planet.)
Fun fact, the two galaxie's outer dust clouds are already touching.
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Based on how Earth is doing, she might be taking us to the big farm upstate. :(
Earth is fine, it's seen worse than humanity. Geology doesn't care about what biology does.
We can make it care, just got to tell old donny up in the whitehouse that something doesn't care about his wishes.
And like all good mothers one day she will grow into a red giant, engulfing her children and obliterating all life on earth.
That is the true meaning of mothers day ❤️
Did everyone forget about the galaxy? It's also a giant circle, and the sun orbits it like we orbit the sun.
Perhaps the real question should be "Where is the Galaxy taking us?"
Oh no you zoomed out to far and triggered the weird sensation. How bizarre it all is!! To know these things as little ape creatures. So small as to barely exist in a lake of space and an ocean of time. Whywhywhyhowwhyhowhowhow is any of this real???
So what you're saying is, we're all just REALLY good factorio runs
The Milky way and Andromeda may not collide.
Interesting article but it's sad to see that website using dark patterns like subscribe popups and fucking with the back button.
Knowing there's no chance imaginable of being able to witness all this is so depressing... My death anxiety feeds on thoughts like this.
On the plus side, we live at a time where we can still observe the cosmic microwave background radiation and total solar eclipses.
Since the moon's orbit grows by 3" every year, after a few million years it'll be far enough away that it won't completely eclipse the sun anymore.
And in a billion year's time, the CMB will be redshifted so far into deep radio wavelengths that it'll be impossible to observe
First thank you for filling in OP's coverup of Mama's intentions.
We will merge, in a series of passes through each other, with almost no stars actually colliding
So then, we're just going for a ride to a farm upstate :(
Fun fact, we do not just orbit the galaxy in a circle, we also have a motion perpendicular to that circle. We oscillate up and down through the plane of the Milky Way. The Milky Way is super thin, like super ultra thin. If the Milky Way were a pancake, it would only be the thickness of a sheet of paper, a sad pancake indeed. However in terms of human scales it is still huge, so we have a large way to travel. Our galactic orbit is tilted as compared to the galactic plane, so throughout the cosmic year we move up and down as compared to the center. A motion of 100-200 light year, so pretty big. That orbit also has procession, so we move through different parts.
The galaxy itself is also moving, although at that scale it's easier to think of the galaxy to be stationary and other galaxies moving towards or away from us. In general we are all moving towards a galaxy cluster known as "The Great Attractor" as it is the most massive (except for your mom).
It's also often forgotten that our sun isn't the only star moving in the galaxy. All of the stars orbit the galaxy in a lot of different orbits. And some don't orbit at all, instead moving with escape velocity (or faster) to get flung outside of our galaxy. Some have their own orbit in companion dwarf galaxies that in turn orbit our own galaxy. It's easy to think of a galaxy as a fixed thing, with all the stars in the same place moving together like on a disk. But this isn't the case at all, stars aren't bound together and can follow their own path. Over time their relative positions change and the constellations we know won't exist anymore.
The structures we see in galaxies like spiral arms for example are only structures in the same way a wave in the ocean is a structure. It is clearly a thing that exists, with properties we can at least somewhat constrain (like size for example). But the water inside that wave is just water like everywhere else. At one point it's part of the wave and then at some point it no longer is. It's the same for stars, sometimes part of a structure, other times not (although it gets complicated quickly if you dig into the details)
That's called a crepe and they are DELICIOUS.
Praise skycrepe
The galaxy is taking us to see its friend
Now do the local group and super clusters! The universe is wild!
Wait till you read about the Lambda Model
There's also no reason to believe that expansion isn't happening in a spheroid pattern. The big bang wouldn't have been like a blunderbuss, more like a naval mine suspended in the abyss, exploding in all directions.
For that matter, did the big bang ever cease, or has it continued to spew out new energy, and we're just so inconceivably far out that our entire observable universe is just one small section of a relatively narrow range of distance from the center?
Lastly, if the big bang is like a faucet, what if black holes are like drains in a tub, or in other words wormholes leading back to whatever realm everything came from before being spewed out by the big bang?
Everything in the universe is cyclical; there's no way something doesn't complete the circuit, even if it's just a big crunch.
The big bang didn't happen in a pattern, it happened everywhere at once: https://nasaspacenews.com/...
The universe expanding means it gets sparser. It has no edge and no center, so it's not spherical. It's either infinite or repeating (e.g. it might be the surface of a 4D torus, but as said: that doesn't imply an edge). I personally believe it's infinite and not repeating.
You could represent time as the distance from center to circumference, although that wouldn't be as readily comprehensible at a glance. It's more like the image just shows a chunk out of that sphere
There's also no reason to believe that the big bang happened at one “point”. I believe that the universe (and therefore the big bang) are infinite.
Everything is relative, so something infinite can still expand: since there's no absolute speed, galaxies can move away from each other everywhere, at all times.
The idea is that the big bang started as a singularity, where everything had the same position as far as our 3d space is concerned, and then the difference in position arose as a consequence of it. Maybe space (as we know it) didn't exist before, maybe it did but collapsed, or maybe there was "other" space but this space we're in popped into existence. Same thing with time and perhaps some other dimensions.
So it did happen everywhere (where everywhere is just everywhere inside this universe), but it was a single point at that moment.
Though I suspect it was inside another universe and that our big bang singularity was just another black hole forming in that universe and we're seeing the mystery of what happens beyond the event horizon when gravity overpowers all other forces. Our familiar forces could just be the next set of rules physics for small things (from the perspective of the parent universe) after gravity overcomes the dominant ones in that universe. Which could mean that all black holes are tunnels to other universes (that we can't visit but the matter that makes us could, though it would probably be something else once it did, like an entire galaxy cluster).
Then the CMB might just be light that entered our universe from the parent one, redshifted like crazy (plus other optical gravitational effects, like any light that enters will appear brighter in one direction but coming from all directions to some extent).
That's pretty cool sci-fi!
The geometry of explosions says otherwise. An explosion implies expansion outward from a center. If every point in space exploded at once, there would be nowhere for anything to expand, thus creating compressive forces.
You would have to zoom out really really far, beyond the boundaries of the explosion, to see the forces expanding beyond that. And at that point, it's just the Big Bang, only on a larger scale, and with the singularity being really a vast space seen from a much larger scale.
To illustrate, one speck of C4 explodes in an outward direction, but put a million specks of C4 together into a continuous block, and it still explodes in an outward direction. It's not a million tiny explosions all taking place within the space of the block.
No, there's no center and no edge, the big bang happened everywhere at once. The universe might be finite, but only in the sense that it's looping back on itself, not in the sense that it can possibly be a sphere (which has both center and edge). So your mental model of an explosion in 3D space doesn't fit: https://nasaspacenews.com/...
Metaphors like this at helpful for approaching understanding, but you can't extrapolate from them. There was no 3D space in which the big bang occurred, “nothing” is not the same as “a patch of vacuum in spacetime”. An explosion doesn't start as dimensionless singularity, it starts with the matter that explodes. And so on.
I'ma have to come back to that. Aware of the concept, but not have much driven to the core concept. Little too tired to read, but thanks friend
Theirs a good video on Startalk https://youtu.be/zGfIbEqDDLY
I read "Dark energy" and immediately thought of Voldie the wart (Voldemort)
May I have a point of reference?
Edit: in all seriousness, looking for the point of poignancy
There was a twitter account that went by nihilistic arby's and they posted stuff like this.
Thanks! Also, like your usrname :)
I saw that once and thought that it was an actual jingle for an Arby's commercial x_x
burma shave
I'd love to know what the actual direction currently looks like though
Not necessarily. I like to think I'm pretty resilient.
I mean its kinda terrifying when you think about it from the perspective of someone who grew up in an abusive household
"You will never leave my control"
Either you get tossed to the curb by mom and you are cold and alone after being so used to the warmth and the plant is dead (flung out of orbit), or get murdered by her (red giant... engulf the system)
There's a third option, but it may still lead to option 1 eventually. We invent starlifting, and keep our sun "young," while also having the added benefit of strapping a solar thrusters to her so we can steer the solar system.
The sun is not a sweet mother, he is armed with the great serpent Xiuhcoatl and demands the hearts of our enemies.
Does the sun actually travel in a straight line, or do the orbits of the planets wobble it, and to what extent?
Everything in the solar system (even the Son) orbit around the center of mass of everything in the solar system. This epicenter is just outside of the Son, on the side that Jupiter is. So the Son wobbles by a little bit more than 1 of its radii.
This epicenter is just outside of the Son
*Sometimes. The other planets can counterbalance Jupiter's effect on the barycenter to pull it back into the surface of the Sun.
Also, it's Sun, not Son
barycenter
That's the word I couldn't remember.
Also, it’s Sun, not Son
Yeah, I don't know how I messed that up 3 times. I think my brain was stuck between calling it the Sun and Sol. Also the mama and son/sun puns in this thread.
They don't. There is new research where the universe is constantly expanding, while we are traveling in an orbit around the sun, the universe is exponentially expanding, growing outward kinda like a reversed funnel.
More like outward from the center of a sphere
Juipiter's orbit wobbles it, as others said, the barycenter of the system is outside the sun's radius, but the scale of the planets vs their orbits is so great such a small wobble is imperceptable if you can see multiple orbits.
I think the graph shows relative position of the planets from the sun, so the straight line is just a baseline.
Like if you jump up and down on a plane, and the graph just shows you moving a couple of feet up and down rather than including the entire altitude change of the plane itself
No. The moon wouldn't suddenly book it either if the sun disappeared, would it? Or more in line with the example: the moon would not suddenly leave the solar system if the earth disappeared.
Never said suddenly. Eventually.
Also I think a more apt comparison would be if the ISS would leave the solar system if the earth stopped. Since the sun is 333,000 times more massive than the earth and the moon is only 1/80 the mass of the earth. Not sure if the moon would escape the solar system but it would definitely be yeeted a ways out of Earth's orbit. Since the earth disappearing basically forces an orbital slingshot maneuver. The ISS would probably escape the solar system if it didn't encounter the Gas Giants.
Probably true for Pluto.

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i see, that's why the ecliptic and the milky way don't align on the sky
ok! time for all those years of science to finally pay off:
Would you still love "her" if you knew that, every single second, thousands of waves of extreme radiation from the Sun, traveling at a million light-years per millisecond, hits our planet's atmosphere? These waves slowly erode one of the only protections that we have against the Sun. But don't worry, this planet has several more tricks up -- and under -- the crust of the Earth. The iron core of the earth emits a geomagnetic field that extends into space, creating a region called the magnetosphere. This magnetosphere blocks most of the Sun's deadly rays, deflecting them back into space.
(also I didn't get this off of Google. I just have a really good memory. also I added the bolded words)
traveling at a million light-years per millisecond
You're only off by a factor of about 30 quadrillion.
Light (famously a type of radiation), takes 1 year to travel a light-year, hence the name.
If you want to make it sound impressive, then astronomical units aren't the right choice. The sun is only 1 AU away from us after all.
Ok. Wasn't trying to make it sound impressive, just trying to say that the sun is sharting radiation at us.
million light-years per millisecond
Gonna need a citation on that one! ;)
kidding aside, Mars is a great example of what will happen to Earth should our core stop generating our magnetic field. Also... Auroras!
Yes! The Auroras are the result of the Sun's rays that were rebounded and sent to both of the poles. Also, I don't know the exact speed, but its really reeeeeaaaaalyyyyy fucking fast. Like, my brain can't even fathom how fast it is. I can't imagine the scientists that study this every single day think. Are they like "oh shit the sun is just about to shart some deadly fucking radiation time to do some science to make it stop" I am actually convinced that science is magic, and every scientist that ever lived had to say some oath to never tell people that they're wizards. Meanwhile we're like "oh ok they have this tool that looks like a medieval torture device they either must be really smart or stole that from a museum or time-traveled and yoinked that shit and brought it back here"
Um, yes because without those waves plants wouldn't grow and we wouldn't be alive.
On the side of the Earth facing the sun, the magnetosphere extends about 40,000km into space. On the side facing away from the sun, the solar wind stretches the magnetosphere into a tail that extends well beyond the Moon's orbit. The ISS orbits at an altitude of about 400km; it is well within the magnetosphere.
Because it is above the majority of the atmosphere (and also because it just barely passes through the lowest part of the Van Allen radiation belts), astronauts in the ISS are exposed to higher levels of radiation. However, the ISS has shielding specifically designed to minimize radiation, and astronauts living there are considered to be within safe levels of exposure.
I don't know. science, I guess?
Warp 11?
Mama knows how we behave. She's taking us to the nearest galactic playground where she'll abandon us.
While I've never seen it illustrated until now, I thought it was kind of obvious that this is our reality from outside our solar system. Is it not?
It's all oscillations.
Wait a minute... We're moving?
We're going in a circle, I like to imagine it like a parent driving around the block to put their kid to sleep
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Uhhm guyss shes just taking us around the galaxy
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