I'd say a good 50% of people are not paying attention to current events/politics, then 40% who follow somewhat but don't really understand as they lack the critical thinking skills necessary to actually process the information and end up parroting the talking points of their preferred media, and then finally 10% who realize just how fucked everything is.
bobs_monkey 42 points 4 days ago
Duamerthrax 32 points 4 days ago
There's a lot of people who are only just now figuring out what the rest have been seeing happen for years, decades. Many of them are still in denial about how bad things have already gotten.
M137 5 points 4 days ago
It's less than 10% because some of those that are able to comprehend what's happening are the ones who made it happen and/or are rooting for it like nothing else they've ever done. This is exactly what many want, them being on a high horse as many as possible never even getting the chance of dreaming of that position.
bobs_monkey 3 points 4 days ago
Eh at first glance I'd almost lump most of them in with that 40%, but I also have a hard time comprehending anyone of proper intelligence being that maniacal, so yeah I suppose you've got an excellent point. That said, most MAGAts I see in the real world are just on the bandwagon, heck most of the ones I meet can barely rub two brain cells together regarding politics to the point I have a small level of sympathy for just how stupid they are.
Smaile 1 point 4 days ago
i don't, stupid people are an anchor, frankly the bottom 20% should loss the ability to vote. BUUUUT!!
They get UBI. (and nothing small, like 20-30K pegged to inflation or something, something BIG like that.)
since they wont be represented in the voting spectrum any more, but they still are important for operation of the country and labor and frankly, we all know some dumb ass that we like or love. we wouldn't abandon them. but they don't posses critical thinking skill so they should get a dif societal task, acting as our strongest consumers or creatives, they could even save and start a business, remember a lot of business people aren't geniuses like engineers or scientists. we would totally be fine it we locked it to the bottom 20% (or whatever ratio would actually work, this is more of a generalization.) and i don't think we would get into any situation where that 20% lost voting rights would creep up, thanks to the new UBI anchor keeping the gov from having to pay more people, and the remaining 80% of people would be more likely to see though bullshit, especially now that the bottom 20% are disenfranchised from it. they won't peddle nonsense for these bad actors.
drcobaltjedi 20 points 4 days ago
evil billionaires who are gleefully destroying democracy and the world economy so they can go out in one final last hurrah of capitalism
They need to set the all time high scores list before they end the world. I'd say "/s" but honestly I think that may be what they're doing.
drcobaltjedi 6 points 4 days ago
You're right, changing it now
BeardededSquidward 2 points 4 days ago
You may not be involved in politics, but politics will certainly be involved with you.
Smaile 2 points 4 days ago
I seriously can’t with these “I don’t do politics” idiots anymore.
This, its like when corps say there not evil they are amoral. Yah, you don't care whats going on around you.
Your amoral = You have no morals = You are a bad person because you don't care what happen to the average man from your own actions or others.
ddplf 18 points 4 days ago
Now imagine every tenth customer starts stealing.
Now the company has to increase prices to compensate for the loss of profits. We all start paying for the shoplifters, ridiculous, right?
But who are we really protecting by paying more, though? The shoplifters or the company? Who's REALLY the parasite here? The rich company or the person forced to steal?
EDIT because I might've not made my point clear - if we eliminate the company and replace it with public services, there would be noone to take profit and thus no need to hike the prices.
Privatization is evil. The idea of profit is parasitic.
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In 17 points 4 days ago
We all start paying for the shoplifters, ridiculous, right?
A good argument for reducing inequality through higher taxes.
BlackLaZoR 2 points 4 days ago
no need to hike the prices
Yeah, we'd all lose money to shoplifters instead of single capitalist
picnic -9 points 4 days ago
This statement is something that I dont understand. While yeah, if that would happen to a big store, it might be alright but if I ran a corner store, I wouldnt be okay with this.
Also people who steal food here are gypsies and narcs. Normal people with financial difficulties get their goods from government, food shelters, churches and other help associations.
Now, I've been fucking dirt poor, I've gone sleep hungry, I've had to walk to every place instead of taking public transit. Still I've never thought about stealing food.
MalikMuaddibSoong 16 points 4 days ago
This statement is something that I dont understand
I’ll try to help fam. The hungry deserve to eat and they have the moral high ground over the ownership class that would rather that person starve and the food they stole destroyed.
Atomic 1 point 4 days ago
Could you present a weaker strawman if you tried?
You aint solving hunger by stealing ribeyes crabs and lobsters.
Normal people that struggle financially seek help from the government, they go to food banks, there is help to get without having to resort to stealing.
You don't just wake up one morning and all of a sudden have to steal to survive. This isn't the US. (The hint is in the £ sign)
BeardededSquidward 7 points 4 days ago
The term "gypsies" is a slur by the way.
hOrni 6 points 4 days ago
Because drug addicts are famously affluent and gypsies don't need food at all. Also capitalism is widely known for taking care of the people in need and no one ever goes hungry or homeless unless they want to.
FalcoLombardi1 3 points 4 days ago
Do you own a corner store? Or are you just making baseless assumptions? Just because you had a certain experience doesn't mean that is everyone's experience. Learn some compassion you wanker.
minorkeys 71 points 4 days ago
This right here. This right here is why I fucking hate when ppl dismiss surveillance and data collection, eg. "idc if they want to know i went to work and then Starbucks" etc..
They absolutely make assumptions about us based on statistical analysis of the data they have and then the systems they control treat us based on those assumptions, however wrong. Dynamic pricing is now a thing because they know enough to target subgroups of their customer base to price gauge more efficiently.
Information is power and people are extremely fucking cavalier about empowering the most exploitative and cruel ppl in society, business leaders.
Horsey 24 points 4 days ago
As someone who stole from the supermarket all the time in college, I just wanna say that the need is starting to foment in recent times for me. The social contract is growing cracks now that I can’t see retirement and financial stability in my late 30s.
pelespirit 8 points 4 days ago
Yep, our kroger looks like a prison/school entrance right now. They call it Fred Meyer here and it used to be at least nice to go to. They've gone full walmart.
JackFrostNCola 6 points 4 days ago
What value of groceries/items do you need to steal before they feel the need to use their weapons against you?
village604 12 points 4 days ago
Depends on your skin color.
bstix 2 points 4 days ago
Jeez, how much did you steal for this to make business sense for the supermarket?
However much, you need to double that amount so they can afford to hire a second security guard.
Soon, we will all be employed at the supermarket. That's when we turn around and point two fingers at their eyes and then at our own and say "we are the supermarket now".
Son_of_Macha 17 points 4 days ago
They've been doing this for the last 15 years, people steal them and sell them in pubs. Premium steaks are not feeding world hunger.
buddascrayon 5 points 4 days ago
But also the beef and cattle industry has been quietly and carefully raising the price of beef, and especially steak, ever since the pandemic and hoping no one would call them out for their blatant price gouging.
Part of this has been framed as "steak is a luxury item and so we can price it out of the reach of the poor". Pair that with government programs silently removing steak as a buyable item on food stamp and public food programs.
Meanwhile the cattle industry has been posting all time record high profits for the last 5 years.
SubArcticTundra 8 points 4 days ago
Half (proverbially) of the UK is owned by US capital
locahosr443 1 point 4 days ago
And our most significant infrastructure was sold to companies in Europe at huge discounts. The UK is just going to bleed out
bufalo1973 1 point 4 days ago
[{Sadly) laughs in Spanish]
heartSagan5 3 points 4 days ago
Hm, what do we do to ticks?
Phil_in_here 12 points 4 days ago
Stay inside and avoid their territory?
Absolutely fucking not. This is our planet, not theirs. Billionaires are an invasive species.
Reverendender 6 points 4 days ago
It would only work if you used children, sadly.
theuniqueone 14 points 4 days ago
Nobody should have to pay for food ever.
jonesey71 10 points 4 days ago
If you think the rich should be able to choose how the poor eat I would counter that the poor should choose whether the rich eat at all.
Do you think people born to a higher position deserve a better quality of food based on their birthright?
Jako302 7 points 4 days ago
Food should absolutely be a human right, but what you receive should be based on survival needs and sustainability. I don't mean bread an water but rather a broad selection of staple goods that results in a varied diet with the ability to choose for yourself what you eat. Steak, and most other meat products, shouldn't be part of the basic selection, they are luxury products without a sustainable way to produce in large enough quantities. The equivalent is that free public transport wouldn't include flights since that simply isn't viable at the moment.
Whether luxury goods that slowly kill the planet should be available at all is a different question entirely that can't be solved in our current geopolitical system. There are ways to address this but it would require a complete global restructuring that goes way beyond what food as a human right would require.
PhoenixDog 3 points 4 days ago
Because the deer that the wolf kills to eat it doesn't give the deer a right to live.
We're animals too. We just happen to be better and more efficient at killing our prey.
SatansMaggotyCumFart 20 points 4 days ago
I know I do but not everyone uses steaks as fleshlights.
FishFace 1 point 4 days ago
If you're going to steal anything, steal the highest value things you can get away with so you can sell them to buy more of what you actually need.
I'm not saying it never happens obviously
Jankatarch 6 points 4 days ago
$10 bucks says they wanted to bring this topic to immigrants.
Soapbox 1 point 4 days ago
Looks to me like it would be easy to rip off with bare hands. I can't tell if its the Styrofoam backer we use here in the us or if its cardboard, maybe plastic? Still probably flimsy enough to just rip.
drmoose 3 points 4 days ago
In many other countries people are much poorer and don't end up stealing steaks from supermarkets. The issue is not finance but collapse of societal trust and Britain for once feels what they've been committing around the world for centuries.
Tollana1234567 3 points 4 days ago
meat is heavily stolen in alot of chains too.
Impractical_Island 1 point 4 days ago
Systems gunna system
Test which one of them
Will allow all to survive!
This is nature of 't' hive
A cross all of decentral
Evolution be inevitable!
bridgeburner 0 points 4 days ago
Or, it is another obvious reason
technocrit -3 points 4 days ago
On the other hand maybe meat is an extreme, unsustainable privilege that's inherently based on torturing/murdering animals and destroying the planet.
RagingRobot 9 points 4 days ago
That sounds like something meat would say. You just don't want us eating meat because you are made of meat lol
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"What happened?" are you for real?
Did you not read any newspaper, watch any news, or generally exist in society since 2016?
First you decided to bazooka yourselves in the foot with the Brexit vote, then went through a revolving clown show of increasingly bizarre political sideshow pieces that pretended to be PM, before finally opting to negotiate an EU exist that was about as disastrous as it could've been for your economy.
Add in the fact that the entire world has been turning to shit around you due to despotic leaders trying to rape their neighbours/the climate/populace/actual kids/everything joined by a cabal of evil billionaires who are gleefully destroying democracy and the world economy so they can go out in one final last hurrah of capitalism, and you have the audacity to ask "What happened?"?.
I seriously can't with these "I don't do politics" idiots anymore.
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