It was just a kid's toy, you know.

2 days ago by The Picard Maneuver to c/microblogmemes

mercano 128 points 2 days ago

Natural uranium mostly emits alpha particles. It’s dangerous if you eat or inhale it, but the wood in the nightstand drawer is going to be enough to block them.

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Rhaedas 59 points 2 days ago

Paper and skin can stop alpha particles. Glass, plastic, or a little bit of metal can stop beta. It's gamma that will get you, often because of what the gamma does through the material, knocking off new particles as it exits.

The uranium in one of these kits probably had the same potency as the radium pendants you can buy now. It's fine as long as it stays in its container and never gets inside your body.

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Slovene85 48 points a day ago

Of course gamma will get you, she beat cancer countless times. Gamma is badass.

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Stefan_S_from_H 8 points a day ago

Bruce Banner approves this message.

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BillyClark 45 points 2 days ago

Answer: It depends on the amount and qualities of the uranium, as well as how it is stored.

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Dionysus 50 points 2 days ago

Glass vial, not bad, not great.

Seriously though, those older chem sets had natural samples, so likely not enough to really do damage unless you used it as a jade stone or suppository.

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Catoblepas 20 points 2 days ago

Or decide to do a little stone polishing or carving. Don’t breathe this!

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Micans 4 points a day ago

Now I need to go check and see if the Blend-Tec youtube channel still exists

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DupaCycki 43 points a day ago

So let me get this straight. Radiation causes cancer. But radiation also cures cancer. Do you guys seriously believe this shit?

/s because I've written more obvious satire before, only to be interpreted seriously

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dronarnia 23 points a day ago

When people need help after injuries from a knife, what happens? Surgeons go at them with little knives. What a scam.

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Whats_your_reasoning 5 points 18 hours ago

You know what they say - when the only tool you have is a knife, all your problems get stabbed.

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echodot 9 points 19 hours ago

The reason for this is a little bit of radiation damages your DNA causing the cells to go haywire, whereas a lot of radiation kills the cells outright.

So if you get cancer, you blast the cancer cells with radiation to wipe them out. The radiation is targeted so you don't wipe out healthy cells.

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SalmiakDragon 5 points 18 hours ago

How are they able to target cancer cells?

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bfg9k 9 points 18 hours ago

Very carefully.

Literally, it's like they aim a laser at it

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SkunkWorkz 3 points 18 hours ago

They focus the photon beams onto the affected area.

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dangrousperson 3 points 16 hours ago

With physics.

The particles lose energy roughly depending on their inverse velocity(=>energy) squared

What that means is that high energy particles deposit little energy at first, but as they gradually slow down they deposit more and more. There is a peak where most of the energy is deposited, depending on the starting energy and density of material (tissue). This is called the Bragg Peak and having non-constant (range of) starting energies you can specify a range of dosage deposition instead of a single point.

Bragg Peak

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prole 3 points 17 hours ago

With shit like this

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prole 7 points 17 hours ago

If you think this is obvious satire, then I have to wonder when was the last time you actually spoke to an average human person? There are people on this site who would unironically say something like that

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bstix 3 points 15 hours ago

I remember a website by some guy experimenting with terminal cancer in himself. He'd eat gold particles and microwave himself with a DIY device made from a microwave oven.

It was several years ago, so I think we would have heard of he was successful.

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taiyang 36 points 2 days ago

Modded Minecraft ruined my mind because this reminded me of a time when opening a wooden chest full of plutonium gave me radiation poisoning and ruined my deathless playground. My mate picked it up after and then also immediately died. Stupid dragons and their stupid plutonium.

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tuxiqae 13 points a day ago

That sounds fun

Which modpack was that?

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taiyang 18 points a day ago

Enigmatica 2 Expert. A fun mix of mods produced a Fire and Ice Dragon that had treasure loot from Industrial Craft 2... you're supposed to handle radioactive materials with proper safety gear. Who'd have thought? Lol

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dalekcaan 9 points a day ago

Man, 1.12 really was the golden age of Minecraft mods

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ProfessorHoover 3 points 18 hours ago

1.21 is a bit of a renaissance, especially with the amazing things the create family can do.

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gandalf_der_12te 35 points a day ago

fun fact: low doses of radiation are actually known to reduce cancer rates. there's quite a bit of research into it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hormesis#Radiation

In Taiwan, recycled radiocontaminated steel was inadvertently used in the construction of over 100 apartment buildings, causing the long-term exposure of 10,000 people. The average dose rate was 50 mSv/year and a subset of the population (1,000 people) received a total dose over 4,000 mSv over ten years. In the widely used linear no-threshold model used by regulatory bodies, the expected cancer deaths in this population would have been 302 with 70 caused by the extra ionizing radiation, with the remainder caused by natural background radiation. The observed cancer rate, though, was quite low at 7 cancer deaths when 232 would be predicted by the LNT model had they not been exposed to the radiation from the building materials. Ionizing radiation hormesis appears to be at work.

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NM_Gringo 8 points 18 hours ago

That was the one topic that always baked my noodle at DoE. In animal tests the low dose group consistently outlived the controls. I wanted to write papers on the topic but consistently got shot down. The upper tiers were worried about public perception of "radiation can be good" papers.

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captainlezbian 7 points 17 hours ago

Yeah that'd absolutely result in a lot of Americans giving themselves cancer

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dronarnia 3 points 15 hours ago

licking radium paintbrushes to own the libs.

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Soggy 1 point 8 hours ago

Nuka-Cola stocks skyrocketing.

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InvalidName2 25 points a day ago

Kind of reminds me of my step-mother. It's not the lifetime of heavy chain smoking that caused/causes her to keep getting cancer and worsening respiratory illness. It's the chemicals "they put in everything". It's "they used to put mercury in our vaccines". It's "all the drugs they make you take these days". It's blamed on everything else and the 60+ years of almost non-stop cigarette smoking just contributed but didn't cause it.

And, of course, plenty of common things besides cigarette smoke can cause cancer, so it's not like I'm denying that. Just that Occam's Razor being what it is, I'm going with the simplest and most obvious explanation that there's evidence of to explain all the health issues.

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The_Picard_Maneuver 18 points a day ago

It's such a common thing in medicine, mental health, weight loss, IT troubleshooting, etc. It's not impossible that the answer is complex, but we always feel like we're a special case and it can't possibly be as simple as "eat less", "get more sleep", "turn it off and on again".

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zarkanian 11 points a day ago

This is the argument that cigarette companies used for a long time to avoid accountability. It wasn't the fault of the cigarettes. It's all those contributing factors.

I saw a lot of that during lockdown. "She didn't die from COVID! She died of pneumonia!" Wow, a lot of people are dying from pneumonia this year! That isn't normal, is it?

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Hueristic_Autistic 2 points 18 hours ago

It's denying the worst possible outcome of what's right in front of them to stay positive. It's a form of ignorance is bliss. Literally a boomer technique that's able to be used but to us when things are so in front of us it's hard to only give 1/10th of a fuck.

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Hueristic_Autistic 5 points 18 hours ago

My dad recently got bladder cancer fortunately they are well off enough financially that they are able to pay for treatments, thank God!

But I learned that the over 20 years of drinking was less likely to cause the bladder cancer than the fact that he smoked cigarettes. Belive it or not cigarettes have a higher risk of inducing bladder cancer whereas alcohol is more likely to destroy your liver and kidney directly.

He was also exposed to a shit load of chemicals throughout his entire life.

Cancer is a hell of a thing and I don't wish it on anyone.

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als 21 points a day ago

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phoenixz 19 points a day ago

If it's contained in glass or something and not just an open canister of powder, it's actual fairly innocuous

You can take uranium rocks from the US and transport them in a commercial airline over the world.

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Warl0k3 13 points a day ago

And you'll be exposed to more radiation from being at cruising altitude than from the rocks!

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gandalf_der_12te 6 points a day ago

yeah because uranium actually decays so slowly that the radiation it gives off is barely worth mentioning. the actually hazardous stuff is what comes out of nuclear power plants spent fuel rods.

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BussyCat 6 points a day ago

Part of it is the decay frequency but also how it decays. Uranium238 does an alpha decay that can’t penetrate the glass

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the_strange 2 points 18 hours ago

The decay products themselves decay through beta decay before arriving at a stable (at human timescales) U234 again. In the chain there is a bit of gamma radiation sprinkled in as well, but overall the decay chain, with the shielding provided by the glass, whatever other bedside obstacle there might have been and the probably small sample size should not have increased the obtained radiation dosage by a significant amount.

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BussyCat 1 point 8 hours ago

I could be mistaken but doesn’t u238 go down the full alpha decay chain ending in lead206 albeit with a few random beta minus decays thrown in that also shouldn’t penetrate glass?

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ChickenLadyLovesLife 2 points 19 hours ago

I feel like the uranium in atomic bombs is also a bit of a health risk.

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Viking_Hippie 2 points a day ago

You can take uranium rocks from the US and transport them in a commercial airline over the world.

Probably shouldn't, though, unless you have a good reason for doing so.

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buddascrayon 17 points a day ago

And yet, she's 95 and has survived cancer multiple times...

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Eeyore_Syndrome 16 points 2 days ago

Or the fabled Fiestaware™©® relish trays lol.

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ChickenLadyLovesLife 3 points 19 hours ago

My cousin collects old Fiestaware and is also a major hypochondriac. I made the mistake of mentioning the radioactive fiestaware thing and she freaked the fuck out. She does not collect it any more.

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echodot 10 points 2 days ago

Realistically if it's in a vile in a draw the wood and glass probably blocks most of the radiation. It probably won't be that high purity if it's from a 1940s toy set

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bedwyr 9 points a day ago

Uranium glass is relatively safe reddit assured me, for whatever that is worth.

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davetortoise 15 points a day ago

Naturally occuring Uranium is, really, not very radioactive. You can even eat it and have it pass through your digestive system without any significant negative impact - there was a scientist who (slightly facetiously) used to do this in lectures to prove the safety of nuclear power and lived to a ripe old age. That said, it's not exactly advisable.

We use it in power plants because it's fissile, not because it's radioactive, it's easier to sustain chain reactions with constant output.

Spent nuclear fuel, however, is extremely radioactive because when we fission Uranium it splits into very radioactive isotopes of Caesium, Iodine, Xenon etc. plus a ton of minor actinides.

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j5906 4 points a day ago

Well it was from an old chemistry set, I would be impressed if it had 95% purity and god knows what the other 5% are.

Also it depends a little bit on how big the vial was, a small HPLC vial may only have contained 100mg, the buttplug style vial they often use to showcase ores/salts may contain like 1kg of it. And also if it was properly sealed or just plugged.

Last factor would be time, a Prof swallowing 10mg once a year has contact with this stuff for 60 days, but lets say she got it from her brother when he was age 15 that would mean semi-close contact 8 hours a day for 80 years. Also the Prof hopefully didnt swallow more of it as uranium apart from being radioactive is also toxix although it takes like 8g to kill one, given the density thats not a too big pill to swallow.

Finally its still only a chance, every bit of radioactivity that hits you could be the one causing cancer.

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davetortoise 2 points a day ago

Yup - most likely a small chunk of ore. The glass vial itself would block the vast majority of alpha emission so it's very unlikely in this case that it had anything to do with the cancer I'd say

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buddascrayon 3 points a day ago

I don't think this was uranium glass but a glass vial of uranium that was likely a part of those Atomic Lab kits they sold to kids in the 1940's and 50's.

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BarrelAgedBoredom 2 points a day ago

So long as the glass doesnt have deep scratches or is chipped*

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beyoublahaj 2 points a day ago

It scratches at a level six, with deeper grooves at a level seven.

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REDACTED 8 points 2 days ago

She has lived so long with uranium next to her for much of her life? This needs to be studied, maybe she's onto something

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Gullible 7 points 2 days ago

This reminded me of the Japan/smoking/lifespan thing. Turns out decent healthcare is pretty helpful. The most helpful, really, when it comes to determining average length of stay on this hellrock.

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ChickenLadyLovesLife 4 points 19 hours ago

There's also that thing about pretending old family members aren't really dead so they can keep cashing their pension checks.

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BarneyPiccolo 5 points 14 hours ago

If you've had cancer "more time than you can count," have you ever really beaten it?

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charokol 4 points 2 days ago

But she apparently keeps getting cancer…

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LovableSidekick 8 points 2 days ago

Yes, like millions of people who don't have any uranium. Hmm.

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SnarkoPolo 4 points 17 hours ago

"You kids today and your bike helmets. We played with radioactive isotopes, and it toughened us by god!"

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Zacryon 3 points 15 hours ago

By the way: same issue with alcohol and tobacco.

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Kolanaki 1 point 8 hours ago

...I'm addicted to nicotine because there's uranium somewhwre nearby? 🤨

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ShaggySnacks 2 points 15 hours ago

Someone keeps the radiation to train to defeat cancer.

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