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sns 144 points a month ago

9000 is a really fucking old teenager.

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itkovian 36 points a month ago

That's like being Gandalf of all teenagers.

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panda_abyss 22 points a month ago

“A wizard is never late, nor is she early, she arrives preci…”

Oh shut up Helen, you knew I was going to wear my leopard print and you wore yours today just so I would look like I’m copying you! Our friendship is so over!

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anomnom 3 points a month ago

Is was leopard skin back then.

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Tikiporch 11 points a month ago

They rounded down, she's actually 9017 years old.

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sns 4 points a month ago

Just so Republicans can feel it's okay to want to rape her.

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Ariselas 11 points a month ago

and she looks really good for 9000

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nightwatch_admin 79 points a month ago

I think someone mixed up the storage, and they accidentally recreated John Travolta from the Battlefield Earth movie?

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Catoblepas 34 points a month ago

It’s been a while since I’ve studied it, but IIRC skeletons of early humans show in general more traits we view as masculine, like stronger chins and a more jutting brow line, even in female skeletons. It was even more pronounced in male skeletons, but this is still pretty mild sexual dimorphism even among great apes (think male vs female gorillas, for example).

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FUCKING_CUNO 21 points a month ago

Though, even being 9000, they would still be considered a "modern" human, correct? Having evolved roughly 300k years ago, I would think their traits would be far more similar to our own then "early" versions of our species

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Catoblepas 8 points a month ago

Early might not be the right word, I think I’m mixing it up with pre-agricultural hunter gatherers (I think I’m forgetting a term here, but it’s hot and I’m tired).

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tomiant 5 points a month ago

Yeah but we started fucking Neanderthals way later and there were plenty of inbred diasporas with little outside contact.

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vaultdweller013 10 points a month ago

Also it seems to have taken a bit for human ethnicities and morphology to stabilize. We absorbed a lot of other humans in Africa to the point that it unironically messed up a lot of early data cause early scientists didn't think fucked to extinction was a valid form of human expansion.

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AnchoriteMagus 10 points a month ago

Why did you have to remind me?

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brap 6 points a month ago

I hear you, I had blissfully forgotten all about that.

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tomiant 1 point a month ago

SIX fingers...

If anyone missed the RiffTrax version of that movie it is one of the better ones. You can still find it on the privateer gulf.

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bampop 4 points a month ago

This is from the movie about the making of Battlefield Earth with John Travolta played by Val Kilmer

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0ndead 0 points a month ago

First thing I saw

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applebusch 60 points a month ago

this feels like one of those shrink wrapped dinosaur situations. like they arent doing a good job estimating how her soft tissue would have been distributed at all. why are her eyebrows so low, why are her cheeks so lean, why is there so much tissue below her lips, why is her hairline so high and with a bit of a widows peak? it feels like they put a mans tissue distribution on a womans frame completely uncritically and called it good.

edit: i think the harsh drop lighting theyre displaying this under is making it way worse too. it might not look quite as bad with softer more diffuse lighting.

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Zarobi 18 points a month ago

Yeah this looks completely wrong to me... Like sure, they would look very different, but they wouldn't be indistinguishable from men. Even from an evolutionary perspective that's just silly.

Even today we have women that have "facial bone structures we associate with masculinity" as they describe. It's not like we are working blind and trying to reconstruct a dinosaur or an extraterrestrial. Though maybe for some scientists, women are similarly rare.

I looked up some examples of "masculine women faces" online in 2 minutes. Even though they look "masculine", they clearly don't look like Gigachad or whatever this reconstruction is.

example photos

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Grail 14 points a month ago

All three are beautiful. And in other news, I'm a gay enby.

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HCSOThrowaway 0 points a month ago

I'm a sidelined former passionate Ally, can you explain to me how an enby can be "gay" and not "pan?"

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Grail 2 points a month ago

I'm not into men, and I'm less into women than I am into enbies close to My gender. There are plenty of enby genders I'm not into, too.

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gergolippai 35 points a month ago

well they always taught us in history class how greece was the hi mark of ancient culture.

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very_well_lost 9 points a month ago

slow clap

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ZkhqrD5o 27 points a month ago

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SpruceBringsteen 25 points a month ago

Funny, if you cut the hair I'd say it's Val Kilmer.

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sik0fewl 3 points a month ago

If you don’t cut the hair it’s Madmartigan.

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LetThereBeNick 1 point a month ago

And if you give her a normal hairline she might resemble a teenager

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DarrinBrunner 20 points a month ago

Today, some women have very masculine features. You can find some of them on fashion show runways, for whatever reason.

This, by chance, is a skull with such features. This doesn't mean all women then had masculine features, the same way not all women today do.

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RagingRobot 19 points a month ago

Or maybe the scientist just sucks at portraits

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architect 5 points a month ago

High fashion models aren’t meant to be facially attractive. That’s what Victoria secret is for. High fashion requires a body as canvas (so be very very thin). A fierce look and walk.

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blackbrook 17 points a month ago

Did Carrot Top forget to take his thyroid medication again?

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Insekticus 4 points a month ago

No no, that's Simply Red after a full-blown bender. He just hasn't got to his hairbrush yet.

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ParadoxSeahorse 17 points a month ago

Idk about this team tbh. Avgi is certainly not impressed.

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samus12345 6 points a month ago

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percent 3 points a month ago

"Steven with a P H" meme (phteven)

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groucho 0 points a month ago

Idk about this team tbh

They should have stopped at Bottom middle, the one between Special Agent Albert Rosenberg and guy in bar bathroom that wants to fight his reflection.

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OpenPassageways 15 points a month ago

This is what the Trojan War was fought over

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groucho 3 points a month ago

The face that launched a thousand ships.... away from it.

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Luisp 10 points a month ago

All the cast of Odyssey should look like this

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luthis 12 points a month ago

The Odyssey is much, much closer to now than to 9000 years ago

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mic_check_one_two 13 points a month ago

Yeah, it’s that old “Cleopatra lived closer to modern day than the building of the pyramids. Ancient Egypt had archeologists who studied ancient Egypt” thing.

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luthis 1 point a month ago

That's still very odd to think about

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DarkCloud 10 points a month ago

Is this mislabeled for comedy purposes? Or was that the genuine reconstruction aim?

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HumanOnEarth 9 points a month ago

40% Heath Ledger 40% Val Kilmer 20% Rocky Dennis

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TIEPilot 9 points a month ago

You're tearing me apart Lisa!

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Thatuserguy 5 points a month ago

You're tearing me apart Lisa! Holy Roman Empire!

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matelt 2 points a month ago

I did naht hit her!

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samus12345 8 points a month ago

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JoMiran 8 points a month ago

Mother
Tell your children not to walk my way
Tell your children not to hear my words
What they mean
What they say
Mother

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luthis 4 points a month ago

Yeah i can see that a little bit too

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luthis 8 points a month ago

Um guys.. I don't think Greece existed 9000 years ago.

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Zarobi 13 points a month ago

Pelasgians (7000 BC - 3200 BC)

The name Pelasgians (Ancient Greek: Πελασγοί, romanized: Pelasgoí, singular: Πελασγός Pelasgós) was used by Classical Greek writers to refer either to the predecessors of the Greeks, or to all the inhabitants of Greece before the emergence of the Greeks. In general, "Pelasgian" has come to mean more broadly all the indigenous inhabitants of the Aegean Sea region and their cultures.

https://www.delphimuseum.gr/...

It depends on what you mean by "existed". They're the ancestors of Greeks, and they lived in what is now Greece, but didn't call themselves that name. As a Greek, to me they're "Greek by ascent", so the distinction is a bit trivial.

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luthis 4 points a month ago

Well it would be like calling native Americans 'New Yorkers' because they lived in the same area. There was definitely no New York and no Greece back then so makes no sense to call them that.

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Grail 14 points a month ago

Columbus: What a curious continent! Ahoy native person, where might I find some gold and child slaves?

Indigenous New Yorker: I'm walkin' 'ere!

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luthis 4 points a month ago

That needs to be a Bill and Ted style time travel movie asap

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Zarobi 3 points a month ago

The analogy isn't quite right. It's more like, hypothetically, if those native people were left relatively undisturbed and not displaced. Then, hundreds of years later, their descendents are now a large proportion of New York. I would probably call them New Yorkers, yes. I don't know much about Native American history, so let me know if I'm off the mark somewhere here.

I say "relatively" because Greek people had a lot of… let's say… neighbourly troubles, and it got very "complicated" for a long time. But we still call the people living there Greek, even if their bloodline DNA is very mixed bag now. I did an Ancestry thing out of curiosity, so I should know, even though my family and I are 100% born there.

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13igTyme 4 points a month ago

I'd say the analogy is good. We can look at other countries. There was a time when Rome was all over Europe. But we aren't going to call the Romans in present day England the English? There's hundreds of years of breeding taking place with Saxons, celts, norse, etc.

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OhStopYellingAtMe 8 points a month ago

MTG dyed her hair?

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shortypants 8 points a month ago

Looks like every bass player I’ve ever known.

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swab148 3 points a month ago

I feel called out

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tomiant 8 points a month ago

GjIHpUEWxKptr2z.png

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nuko147 8 points a month ago

If this is a teenage girl, how the hell the grown up men looked like? I mean my masculinity is already hurt by this image alone.

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justme -3 points a month ago

not to long ago you were "ancient" with 40

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Zerush 13 points a month ago

Wrong, in those years people also reached the age of today's people. The myth that they had a lower lifespan was due to the high mortality of newborns and a violent society that lowered the average general age.

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ddplf 13 points a month ago

Ötzi the Iceman

This guy right here, his name is Ötzi. He died around his 50s. 5000 years ago. In the high Alpes. No, not due to old age. He was actually murdered. He was not considered ancient, just old. It's speculated he was already crippled due to past wounds - both fresh and old, and yet he was fine and rocking at the altitude of over 3000 meters... until someone penetrated him with an arrow.

No that isn't a counterargument to your theory, as a single special example is never enough to discard any statement. I don't need to, because it's already well documented how wrong this perception of aging is. I just want to show you just how durable people were even in the truly ancient times.

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captainlezbian 1 point a month ago

Well yeah and back then everybody was ancient

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Zerush 1 point a month ago

There are several historic persons which lived more than 80 Years. The people then was genetically identic to the people today and with the same life expentancy, same as today, this depends naturally on their life style. The average lifespan of the people in WWI also was less than 30 Years.

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ZoteTheMighty 7 points a month ago

I can suddenly see why you would fight a war over Cleopatra or Helen of Troy if this is the average local option.

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ekZepp 7 points a month ago

Would

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HCSOThrowaway 6 points a month ago

I'm no anthropologist but wouldn't her skin be a lot darker? This feels like people making depictions of Jesus look like a modern European person.

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fossilesque 7 points a month ago
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HCSOThrowaway 4 points a month ago

Yeah, one thing I've learned about human genetics is that the markers for skin color are wonky and unpredictable.

I just feel like it'd be safer to assume she was a lot darker given the recency of African diaspora, but again I am far from an expert so I could be totally off.

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Ougie 5 points a month ago

Here we go again with the random shitting on the Greeks.

Bet the girls in England looked way better than this 9000 years ago, nothing like cro magnon apes no no they didn't eat fleas out of each other's backs where'd you hear that

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justme 0 points a month ago

random shitting? so it's not related to the scientific research that was done in Greece and not in England?

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Ougie 10 points a month ago

I've noticed a trend lately - not sure how far back this goes - but it appears to me that aspects of the Greek civilization are very often attributed to the Romans and mentions of the Greeks are often reduced to derogatory memes (like how easy it is to be Socrates because there was only a bunch of people alive at the time and other such bs) and of course let's not forget how gay everyone was (as if that's a bad thing but whatever). Couple that with misconceptions about Alexander the great and how he was supposedly a Slav and Macedonias weren't Greek blah blah, the fact that the Turks are trying to claim that everything that now lies in modern day Turkey is "theirs" etc etc, the claims from Christians around the world that Christian ideas are the basis of the western civilization and morality in general as if they didn't just appropriate everything from past religions and belief systems... Anyway rant over.

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Canigou 3 points a month ago

Nice rant. Hope you're feeling better. Have a big web-hug my friend 🤗

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Forester 1 point a month ago

It sounds like you need to make some lemonade pour in the ouzo and not worry about mallakas

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Ougie 3 points a month ago

Hah I'm not worried mate it's all good, I just find it interesting how certain interest groups can change narratives from one day to the next. Btw this misrepresentation extends to all the non-English speaking peoples, who are basically excluded from the internet.

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ChaoticNeutralCzech 5 points a month ago

It's OK, she's actually a 9000-year-old shapeshifting dragon.

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SCmSTR 4 points a month ago

Hair is such a big part of how people see attractiveness. Can somebody put this through a better hairstyle in a face app filter and post results?

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matelt 4 points a month ago

Anyway, how is your sex life?

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jeanofthedead 2 points a month ago

You’re my favorite customer!

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webp 3 points a month ago

Does group perception of beauty change over time?

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suff 1 point a month ago

Why such a high hairline!?

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MonkderVierte 1 point a month ago
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DrBanjo 1 point a month ago

Are we sure its not Danzig?

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GiuseppeLasagna 1 point a month ago

This is Andrew W.K…

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forkDestroyer 3 points a month ago

No, I'm certain it's John Travolta from Battlefield Earth.

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Buddahriffic 2 points a month ago

No, no, John Travolta wasn't from Battlefield Earth, you're thinking of Keanu Reeves. John Travolta is from The Matrix.

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themaninblack 2 points a month ago
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hefty4871 1 point a month ago

"Oh hi Mark" just makes me think of Severance and there's no way Patricia Arquette looks like this!

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Mac 1 point a month ago

What's her skincare routine?

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wyldrstallyns 0 points a month ago

Hirsute, indeed.

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garbage_world -1 points a month ago
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