I had a longer title in mind that said there was a small chance of it being a great thing, but a much higher chance of it being a really, really bad thing
If the whole world knows your country's leader's name, it's probably a bad thing
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papalonian 38 points 22 days ago
FriendOfDeSoto 9 points 22 days ago
I think you could save this one still. People knew his name before he was elected leader because he was imprisoned by his racist government. That's not really a good thing.
Aung San Suu Kyi, for a short time while in power before she tolerated genocide on her watch, would have sort of fit in the Mandela category as well.
alcoholicorn 6 points 22 days ago
Ok, Ho Chi Minh, and the one thing that the guy who oversaw crimes against humanity and slavery against Uncle Ho's people was known for was good. The other things Charles De Gaul did, not so much.
AwesomeLowlander 2 points 21 days ago
Aung San Suu Kyi
Man, she was such a disillusionment.
Zoomboingding 1 point 20 days ago
Ghandi, Abraham Lincoln, and Queen Elizabeth were known for their positive contributions
ThirdConsul 1 point 20 days ago
Abraham Lincoln for their positive contribution
Whole world knows his name
No? He was a leader during USA civil war, nothing noteworthy on the world scale. He was for freeing some slaves, but famously not his.
Roosevelt, yes, that guy is more known for their contribution.
deadbeef79000 18 points 21 days ago
He's so stupid that you even know who I mean when I say "he's so stupid".
Viking_Hippie 17 points 22 days ago
pick on the day.
Yeah, making a reservation several days beforehand would probably raise a couple red flags 😁
Viking_Hippie 2 points 21 days ago
GloriousGasHole 11 points 22 days ago
Hopefully, it happens on a Tuesday. If so, I'm doing Taco Tuesday 😂. Specifically, the Doritos Locos Tacos from Taco Bell because they're orange.
boonhet 5 points 21 days ago
Hey, any day can be a Taco Tuesday if you want it to be. Especially if the taco in question is himself the kind that changes things names on a whim. You could have 7 or more Tuesdays per week for all I care.
EvilHankVenture 2 points 21 days ago
I'm finding someone who set up a tent on the side of the road making street tacos and ordering all the lengua and cabeza tacos they have.
cantstopthesignal 3 points 22 days ago
On the flip side. Let him stay long enough to destroy his movement.
village604 5 points 22 days ago
Yeah, he's doing tons of damage to it right now. When he dies they're going to try to whip the cult into a frenzy, so the more that can be disillusioned before he croaks, the better.
radiofreebc 1 point 22 days ago
Don't bring Melania into this.
Canconda 39 points 22 days ago
Case and point: José Alberto "Pepe" Mujica Cordano is afaik the most famous "objectively good guy" president and you've probably never heard of him.
DarkCloud 11 points 22 days ago
Part of a Marxist-Leninist urban guerrilla group fighting a democratically elected center-right government. Mujica was variously the sole survivor of a mission to take a telephone exchange, shot six times fighting multiple policemen (he injured two), part of four prison escapes, and lost his mind after years of solitary confinement.
morto 11 points 22 days ago
The only leader I know that openly confronted consumerism and considered it a priority, as well as the concept of infinite economic growth. He even criticized latin american left parties for having turned poor people into consumers, and not into citizens (as in people with rights)
Kangae_Hishiryo 2 points 22 days ago
He admired and supported Chavez, who was the one who started the destruction of my country, left Maduro here and dismantled all the industry and national trade, and put the companies in my country in charge of inept people just because they were loyal to him.
I wouldn't say he was good if he supported such a character.
alcoholicorn 5 points 22 days ago
dismantled all the industry and national trade
Pretty sure US sanctions did that.
As far as loyalty is concerned, I think having your president kidnapped and his replacement give us the rights to your oil for 100 years while our deranged leader tells the UN general assembly its ours by right of conquest kinda shows the importance of making sure everyone at high levels is loyal.
Kangae_Hishiryo 3 points 21 days ago
The US sanctions where another factor, yes, but not the biggest one. The biggest one was his bad administration. He did the same errors than his predecessors, even when he said that he was going to repair those errors, and he did these errors multiplied by ten.
Even worst, he instaurated an institutionalized corruption mechanism, with a lot of nepotism, despotism, resources and money diversion and tunneling, etc.
Also, take into account that some of the worst effects of his government preceded the US sanctions on Venezuela, that only made everything worst because he simply stealed harder from the citizens to be able to survive.
Also he horribly managed our economy, depending excessively on oil and when the 2008 crisis started he didn't had a second plan and even worse, had a lot of unnecessary expenses.
Edit: A typo, I hate these 😮💨
starlinguk 4 points 22 days ago
A lot of people supported Chaves initially until he went off the rails.
radiofreebc 6 points 22 days ago
He didn't want us to get it on...with nobody else but him
fulcrummed 2 points 22 days ago
Mike Snow baby 😎
Lushed_Lungfish 1 point 21 days ago
Gave me some of my genes, apparently.
DigDoug 19 points 22 days ago
They may not have known his name, but there was a time when (hopefully soon to be former) New Zealand prime minister Chris Luxon became the face of shitty landlords the world over.
SreudianFlip 4 points 21 days ago
On the other hand, “Jacinda” was suddenly commonly heard admiringly at many kitchen tables around the world for a brief time.
taygaloocat 16 points 22 days ago
Jacinda Ardern and Barack Obama both had a pretty good rep and worldwide appeal. Maybe even Xi Jinping
Idk if your statement is correct
Goodlucksil 4 points 22 days ago
I've never heard Jacinda Ardern mentioned until now. And Barack Obama was the first black POTUS (and also ridiculed by some because of that). Xi Jinping is probably the best example.
Zoomboingding 1 point 20 days ago
Xi? The guy orchestrating a genocide?
Goodlucksil 2 points 20 days ago
Of being known worldwide
Zoomboingding 1 point 20 days ago
Ah, I should have directed this at the top comment which implies he has a good reputation worldwide.
alcoholicorn 4 points 22 days ago
The guy who expanded the drone war to like 8 countries, bailed out the banks after they stole millions of homes, and built the cages for immigrants?
He looks good next to the guy who invaded Iraq and the guy who is currently bombing Iran.
SreudianFlip 1 point 21 days ago
Don’t know many Tibetans, eh?
nightlily 1 point 20 days ago
Ardern unfortunately ended her term prematurely after having been through three major disasters (Christchurch terrorist shooting, Whakaari eruption which killed 22 people, and of course COVID) and has been chased out of the country by a bunch of rancid conspiracy nutters (and the far right politicians that support them). The Prime Minister of a tiny country like NZ is only going to get well known for negative reasons for the country, even if she handled those issues mostly well.
neukenindekeuken 12 points 21 days ago
Except for Obama. A lot of people outside the US knew Obama, and loved/love him.
Trump everyone knows, and hates.
So both sides of the coin here.
Mulligrubs 10 points 20 days ago
That's the problem, people think of Trump as the cause
He's the result.
When your government is for sale, the elected are greedy, ruthless, amoral villains.
Trump is stupid, we'll miss him when someone brilliantly evil "wins".
HamsterRage 4 points 20 days ago
Hmmmm...
I give you Mark Carney.
taygaloocat 4 points 22 days ago
I remember Hungary apparently had a really bad leader for a while but I have no idea what his name was.
boonhet 6 points 21 days ago
Orban
He was replaced with Peter Hungarian. No, I'm not kidding, that's what the new guy's last name (Magyar) means in Hungarian.
Can't wait for Trump's reign to be over and John American to take over.
01189998819991197253 4 points 21 days ago
That's not true. You know of Mussolini, and that's not necessarily a bad thing oh I see what you mean yes this is bad
Burn_The_Right 3 points 21 days ago
Our leader in the U.S. is a perfect reflection of our conservatives. If you know his qualities, you know the qualities of our conservatives. If you know conservatives, it's pretty obvious there is no peaceful way out of our situation.
VitoRobles 1 point 20 days ago
Yep. It's like if it doesn't affect western countries, the genocides aren't really brought up.
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Not current, but a possible counter point would have been Nelson Mandela.
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