Slowly? This crap has been going on for years.
GrayBoltWolf 117 points 3 years ago
asexualchangeling 96 points 3 years ago path: 0 5282118 5282613 5283607, hotness: undefined, score: 96, children: 13
Saik0Shinigami 39 points 3 years ago
Fast would be if windows 8 had ads and non uninstallable internet exploder etc
Sounds like someone who doesn't remember windows 8!
Ads: https://hothardware.com/...
They were working on it... and had it working in several places.
Uninstallable IE: https://www.technorms.com/...
While not literally uninstallable... they definitely made it a lot harder.
Windows 7 was the last good version of windows.
asexualchangeling 16 points 3 years ago path: 0 5282118 5282613 5283607 5284171 5284669, hotness: undefined, score: 16, children: 6
0xC4aE1e5 1 point 3 years ago
Funny thing is that 8 had 2 LTSC-like versions:
Embedded Industry and the EEAP builds.
EEAP builds were released to partners (e.g. Nvidia and Intel) only.
Industry Pro is like a precursor to modern day IoT LTSC.
frippa 4 points 3 years ago
Windows 8(.1) was still utter trash, I actually "down"graded to windows 7 at the time and it was a bliss.
(it wasn't the non-stop-ads kind of trash, but the UI suited a tablet more than a desk/laptop)
asexualchangeling 2 points 3 years ago path: 0 5282118 5282613 5283607 5292030 5292536, hotness: undefined, score: 2, children: 0
tofubl 3 points 3 years ago
If only every Windows install came with an internet exploder! We wouldn't have to read Elon Musk X fluff pieces on the news ever single day. And privacy concerns... What privacy concerns?
csfirecracker 19 points 3 years ago
Isn't a process happening gradually over years "slowly"?
helenslunch 3 points 3 years ago path: 0 5282118 5282613 5310734, hotness: undefined, score: 3, children: 0
Zeth0s 7 points 3 years ago
I used to dual boot linux with windows Vista on an old laptop. I had only installed there the first assassin's creed and Rome total war. Nothing else, never really connected to internet. After 1 year of not using it a part than few total war sessions, vista was so slow that was unusable. It spontaneously became slow for no reason. I completely removed it, left only linux, and that laptop survived 7 years of intensive use, and was still working 10 years later (just too old).
Vista was a scam
PopOfAfrica 5 points 3 years ago
Vistas problem was that it was ahead of its time
Poem_for_your_sprog 4 points 3 years ago
I had no problems with Vista. I also built a new PC for it though.
AnAngryAlpaca 1 point 3 years ago
Blasphemy! Windows XP is the only King!
BestBouclettes 6 points 3 years ago
It started with Windows 8
AnAngryAlpaca 2 points 3 years ago
Because at this time the internet was still slow, not always on and optional on most computers, and Microsoft did not know if and how they should integrate the internet into the OS. The only thing they had at the time was some link to MSN on the desktop, and activeX (???) Where you could display websites on your desktop or within your program, but without the Browser controlls.
beefpeach 100 points 3 years ago
Even though Windows is very user-friendly. I think Windows 11 might be my last. The amount of anti-privacy thatβs implemented and what I have to do just so it doesnβt constantly phone back home is kind of ridiculous.
Off to pick my flavor of Linux.
Kyouki 5 points 3 years ago
Just more in the neighborhood of being used or understanding something because it has been given to them from a very young age on. So getting familiar and used to it very young age on makes it "friendly" even though it is more "familiarity".
Linux is always going to be really awkward at first but over the course of time you learn and shy away and develop your own kinda workflow and that's the beauty of it in my opinion.
Honytawk 4 points 3 years ago
Because user-friendly means that even a tech-noob can easily set it up and use it right away without much researching.
If an OS requires ANY AMOUNT of command line, you have lost about half the population.
If an OS asks any remotely difficult question with techno lingo, you have lost an other quarter.
If an OS doesn't work out of the box the way it should (like all their hardware functioning including audio), you have lost all the other not technology inclined people.
Windows is setup that it requires none of that. It may do something that you find horrific, but most people do not care as long as it works.
Honytawk 3 points 3 years ago
Have you installed Windows 10 or 11 lately?
The most difficult part are the partitions, but even that is done mostly automatically and doesn't allow you to continue if your setup wouldn't work.
It comes with decent default drivers for most generic hardware, and automatically installs drivers for more exotic hardware if it supports Windows Updates.
And it most definitely does not require a single command line.
Maybe some technical jargon, but even that you can just skip by pressing next and it won't fuck up anything.
SorteKanin 1 point 3 years ago
If an OS requires ANY AMOUNT of command line, you have lost about half the population.
Half? It's way more than half.
RIPandTERROR 2 points 3 years ago
90% and I feel that's generous to the supposed 10%
helenslunch 1 point 3 years ago path: 0 5283098 5290952 5310757, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 0
captain_aggravated 14 points 3 years ago
TL; DR: From personal experience as a Raspberry Pi tinkerer and Windows evacuee, I recommend Linux Mint.
Raspberry Pi OS is essentially Debian compiled for ARM with the LXDE desktop. They used to use LXDE, and it is my understanding they forked LXDE to make their "Pixel" desktop. Being Debian, it uses the APT package manager with .deb packages.
Linux Mint is a fork of Ubuntu, which itself is a fork of Debian. It uses the APT package manager and .deb packages. The exact same commands to install, say, LibreOffice on a Raspberry Pi can be used to install it on Linux Mint.
Cinnamon is the flagship desktop, and I think is a reasonable answer to "What if Microsoft had kept developing the Windows 7 desktop instead of trying to make a tablet OS?" I chose Cinnamon pretty immediately because it felt more like the Windows I had grown up with than Windows 8.1 did.
MonkderZweite 1 point 3 years ago
Isn't there a Debian version of Mint too?
GooseFinger 1 point 3 years ago
How easy is it to move user data and software to another distro if I decide to change it up?
MonkderZweite 0 points 3 years ago
If only the Xbox controller wouldn't randomly disconnect on Linux. No, i bought it because i read it works well here.
dai 8 points 3 years ago
Sounds like bait but I'll bite.
Most singleplayer titles work perfectly fine under Linux. Majority of my steam library runs with compatibility toggled in steam.
I've got a Switch Pro controller, no issues via Bluetooth or Cable connection. Gives me battery readouts via Dunst
Running Wayland with an NVIDIA GPU in both my systems.
nitefox 1 point 3 years ago
Itβs been for a few years, the only problem is with some multiplayers games (and itβs quite a easy and complex question)
RPGMaker games are hit or miss
Overall, if its on steam and itβs not a MP game chances are it will work out of the box
helenslunch 1 point 3 years ago path: 0 5283098 5293616 5294243 5310841, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 0
cows_are_underrated 93 points 3 years ago
Sir, do you have a minute to talk about Linux? ππ
RIPandTERROR 1 point 3 years ago
Literally op is Satan so...
Chakravanti -19 points 3 years ago path: 0 5290427 5293239, hotness: undefined, score: -19, children: 2
Honytawk 3 points 3 years ago
Then click that you aren't interested.
That setting may not scream in your face, but it is far from hidden.
Metal_Zealot 62 points 3 years ago
I have a feeling people here like Linux...
MashedTech 3 points 3 years ago
I use a Mac!
MashedTech 3 points 3 years ago
No. But I pay for apps that offer me the built in features I get on Linux. Like... Setting per app audio output.
Blackmist 7 points 3 years ago
I was actually going to put it on an older laptop the other week, but Ubuntu wouldn't run on it.
This was after spending an hour trying to get into the BIOS, only to find that the keyboard doesn't actually work before the Windows splash screen comes up... I mean who the fuck designs it like that?
Also the drive bay doesn't fit the SSD properly, so it just boot loops if you use the little caddy. Refuses to even Post.
Now I hate computers again.
RickyRigatoni 7 points 3 years ago
What laptop was it so the rest of us can avoid this tomfoolery in the future?
Blackmist 4 points 3 years ago
Acer 5742. It's old (and more importantly, free), but with a first gen i5 and 6GB RAM I thought it would still be able to run basic Ubuntu.
On the plus side, you could access the drive and RAM through a detachable panel, without needing to pull the whole machine to pieces, or be prevented from upgrading it entirely. Which is another thing that's becoming depressingly rare.
RickyRigatoni 3 points 3 years ago
Acer seems like a bit of a grabbag when it comes to quality.
Astaroth 1 point 3 years ago
This was after spending an hour trying to get into the BIOS, only to find that the keyboard doesnβt actually work before the Windows splash screen comes upβ¦ I mean who the fuck designs it like that?
Does your laptop have multiple usb ports? And did you try them all?
I had this issue even on my PC until I tried a bunch of different USB ports and found one that worked.
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Uhh I just realized that since it's a laptop the keyboard is part of the laptop... Well I'll still leave this in case it helps anyone
desmosthenes 59 points 3 years ago
proton is pretty much there, thinking to jump ship to linux - already use it in all my work for decades
LazaroFilm 34 points 3 years ago
2024 the year of Linux. As long as we can avoid the toxic βdonβt use Mint, use Arch instead usersβ.
stevedidWHAT 15 points 3 years ago
This person gets it
ogeist 12 points 3 years ago
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
NocturnalMorning 8 points 3 years ago
Was that really necessary?
LazaroFilm 5 points 3 years ago
True itβs a tool. Just like a car. We get attached to one way of working with that tool, but then advancements come and a different tool starts to look interesting. Think gas->electric windows/mac->Linux.
dual_sport_dork 4 points 3 years ago
Year of Linux on the consumer PC. Linux has been dominating the server space for... 40+ years now.
mark3748 3 points 3 years ago
Thatβs interesting, I remember reading a post to comp.os.minix about 32 years ago about a Finnish student who made his own OS. It was just a kernel that barely worked. Wish Iβd known it was already dominant in the server space for over 8 years, could have gotten a head start!
i_stole_ur_taco 3 points 3 years ago
According to the last magazine I checked about this, 1997 is actually going to be the year of Linux on the desktop.
And this housing bubble is totally going to burst any day now, too.
GodsKillerKirb 19 points 3 years ago
But you should be using Arch instead ot Mint.
(I use Arch BTW)
ayaya 3 points 3 years ago
It's also ironically easier to use day-to-day than some other commonly suggested distros. Sure something like Mint or Pop_OS is much much easier to set up but later on when you need a newer version or something that isn't in the repos. Too bad! That doesn't exist. Time hunt down a PPA and hope it's trustworthy.
With Arch 99.9% of the time if it's not in the main repos it's in the AUR. And since it's rolling there's no worry of doing the big upgrades (been seeing plenty of posts about issues with the transition from Fedora 38 -> 39 lately). I have daily driven Arch for almost 10 years now and there have only been a handful of times across that whole span where a pacman -Syu actually broke something.
Chais 2 points 3 years ago
Completely agree. Ran Arch for about 10 years and had like three breakages that were all my fault (didn't read news before a manual intervention. Once the battery died). But every time I could fix that by booting the current live image. No data loss.
Makeitstop 5 points 3 years ago
Honestly, I've been thinking about switching to Linux with my next system since about a month after I built my current system, over 4 years ago. That's how long it took for me to be sick of Microsoft's bullshit in Windows 10.
That said, I'm not looking forward to figuring out how to get into Linux. It's probably easier than I think, but having done 0 research (as I don't need a new system yet), the impression I have is that there's a ton of stuff I'm going to have to figure out before getting started.
LazaroFilm 3 points 3 years ago
Start with a live CD version (a USB thumb drive acts as your C: ) or a virtual machine (like VirtualBox and install Linux on it) just to try things out. Then do a full switch when ready.
Tippon 2 points 3 years ago
If you've got a spare USB drive, have a look at Ventoy. It's a program that lets you put multiple ISOs (disc images) onto a drive and select which one to boot from at startup.
Most distros have free bootable ISOs to download, which let you try that distro without installing it. They usually have an installer built in so that you can install your chosen distro from a desktop environment.
Installation is probably the trickiest part, but even that's not too bad as long as you pay attention. Once you're on the desktop, it's as easy to use as Windows.
JoeyHarrington 2 points 3 years ago
Try a live CD. It's easy to get started without hearing a bunch of stuff.
Flaky 2 points 3 years ago
Linux has a learning curve that's steep to the average Windows or Mac user. The guys suggesting Arch are saying it's easier than the other distros, but you have to remember that most of those coming from the other two aren't going to know what a command line is. I had to guide someone through it when they wanted to install VMware on Pop!_OS, I would not put them on Arch. (And to those suggesting the AUR, that still needs a command line and now you need to inspect the PKGBUILD for security purposes.)
Phen 1 point 3 years ago
It's at the same time much easier and much harder than you think. You'll have most of it working very easily and then find some little thing annoying you with some tool and take days to find a replacement that feels just right.
helenslunch 2 points 3 years ago path: 0 5282174 5282419 5310866, hotness: undefined, score: 2, children: 2
LazaroFilm 2 points 3 years ago
Thanks for the heads up, I was Ubuntu install it. /s
helenslunch 2 points 3 years ago path: 0 5282174 5282419 5310866 5310973 5310987, hotness: undefined, score: 2, children: 0
asexualchangeling 2 points 3 years ago path: 0 5282174 5282419 5283721, hotness: undefined, score: 2, children: 1
LazaroFilm 2 points 3 years ago
Yes support from a major company would set a Linux flavor as a general public friendly option. Right now the fracture between all the Linux versions is a deterrent for beginners.
LazaroFilm 1 point 3 years ago
Just command line.
poopkins 33 points 3 years ago
This grinds my gears. Apple does the same: my work MBP nags me daily to enable iCloud backups but I have no way of doing it because Apple login is disabled by my administrator. Consequently, I cannot reach the settings page to tell Mac to fuck off.
PopOfAfrica 32 points 3 years ago
Why buy a new system when you can just run Linux on the existing system
PopOfAfrica 4 points 3 years ago
Frankly, I think that's a Linux community problem. We really just need to push one big distro and I think we are nowadays collectively pushing Linux mint a lot better. That really needs to be the default.
I suppose the point is that Surely Linux is a better option than buying a $1,300 MacBook.
0x4E4F 11 points 3 years ago
The point is to transition to a subscription based OS. You subscribe, pay a monthly fee for services like Teams, Outlook, etc.
The LTSC editions probably won't ship with that bullshit, so it's probably safe to say that they can still be usable even after completely transitioning to a subscription based OS.
dual_sport_dork 8 points 3 years ago
Bully for them, but I don't use Teams, Outlook, Office365, Onedrive, or Skype anyway. So the only way Microsoft is going to make a dime off of people like me is to charge a subscription for the base OS, which I ain't paying.
0x4E4F 1 point 3 years ago
I know what you mean. Likewise, I've never paid MS for any of their products (or any other company for that matter, lol π). So, if pushing comes to shoving and LTSC still comes with this bullshit, bye bye dual boot π π.
skullgiver 3 points 3 years ago path: 0 5283139 5283753 5283852, hotness: undefined, score: 3, children: 11
0x4E4F 2 points 3 years ago
Uuum, no.
To be perfectly honest, building software for a fixed set of hardware products is a piece of cake. Doing it for every bit of hardware on this earth, yeah, that is PITA. So, even though I don't like MS at all, I have to hand it to them in the conpatibility department. Not as backwards compatible as Linux, but they sure are a close second.
Buidling software for an already stable as fuck platform (*BSD) is a lot easier, plus you already know what hardware it's gonna run on, lol. You cherry pick security/bug fixes and everything else regarding optimizations gets thrown under the carpet... and of course you charge your customers for the security/bug fixes, that's always a plus π.
skullgiver 2 points 3 years ago path: 0 5283139 5283753 5283852 5292142 5298821, hotness: undefined, score: 2, children: 1
PoopingCough 3 points 3 years ago
Don't apple products require you to sign in with an apple id to use them together?
WashedOver 11 points 3 years ago
Is there a newbie way to install it? It looks pretty convoluted...
djtech 15 points 3 years ago
The best way to install is to use a LIVE edition. This is useful beacuse you have a nice installer intergrated and you can try it before you have to install the OS on the computer.
For download of this edition, see www.debian.org/CD/live
From there, if you come from Windows, I would raccomend KDE, as it is stable and customizable. Search "KDE screenshot" to see what it looks like, and if you like it.
If you want this, here the direct URL to download: https://cdimage.debian.org/...
Debian should also be lite enough for older machines, and it is the most stable distro I've tried. With this OS, there are already web browser, media player, office suite,... but you can also download Steam, emulators and lots of software
For help you can DM me.
PullUpCircuit 9 points 3 years ago
From experience, this is a stable streamlined process that is now easier than installing Windows.
WashedOver 1 point 3 years ago
Thanks! I've installed, Ubuntu, KDE, a real old Red Hat, and most recently Linux Mint. Usually dual boot with Windows with either separate SSDs or on the same SSD. Thankfully they have come along ways and you don't need to rebuild the GRUB every time windows did a update.
I've seen Debian is the king of Linux Distros but whenever I've looked into a install it seems like a beast. I'll check out these links!
ChaoticNeutralCzech 11 points 3 years ago
Yes. Did you know that you cannot partition disks in a GUI while installing Windows? You can only select partition to install to or format the entire disk, all advanced actions must be done with diskpart commands in Command Prompt (Shift+F10).
Also OOBE is shit, luckily you can do it offline thanks to C:\Windows\System32\OOBE\bypassnro.bat. And the additional setup like debloating is also time-consuming.
0xC4aE1e5 3 points 3 years ago
BypassNRO is actually an NT command script, not a DOS batch file. It's actually a .cmd, which actually sets a registry value and reboots the system (probably the only bit of the Windows core I am aware of that is open source).
Also the Panther (the codename for the boot.wim installer) Setup has some really basic partitioning tools. You can create a smaller partition, delete, format, and that's it. You have to use DiskPart or Disk Management to do more.
(accidentally deleted this)
0xC4aE1e5 1 point 3 years ago
BypassNRO is actually an NT command script, not a DOS batch file. It's actually a .cmd, which actually sets a registry value and reboots the system (probably the only bit of Windows I am aware of that is open source).
Also the Panther (the codename for the boot.wim installer) Setup has some really basic partitioning tools. You can create a smaller partition, delete, format, and that's it. You have to use DiskPart or Disk Management to do more.
ichbinjasokreativ 4 points 3 years ago
Check out ubuntu if you want something thats easy to install. It's very popular, it's based on Debian and it has corporate backing but no spyware
nogrub 4 points 3 years ago
- get your perferred iso
- do a checksum if available (basecally check the signature of the original file with yours, the checksum often is available on the website)
- get beleana etcher or i think rufus can also do linux isos but i'n not shure
- get an usb stick with min 4gb
- flash iso onto usb stick
- stick usb stick into perferred pc
- boot onot that usb stick (for my motherboard it's F10 but that can be different for you)
- boot into the live iso and the installer should pop up
- read the instructions of the installer carefully
- you are done enjoy your new os
although i would recommend playing around with different distros in a vm to see waht you like and if all your needed software is available
RampantParanoia2365 24 points 3 years ago
I see this is your first day with a Windows computer. Welcome.
possiblylinux127 6 points 3 years ago
Can't you just virtualize it?
possiblylinux127 3 points 3 years ago
You just need to pass though a GPU
AceFuzzLord 20 points 3 years ago
If I had known it was possible to make a local account instead of having to use my outlook for my desktop, I totally would have gone that route a couple years ago. Only plus side I can think of for not doing it is that I have immediate access to my outlook.
corsicanguppy 6 points 3 years ago
Only if you use it.
AceFuzzLord 3 points 3 years ago
I doubt I would have even logged into my outlook if I didn't set up my Microsoft account, so it helped me there at least.
AceFuzzLord 1 point 3 years ago
For me it's just an old account I use because out of all my emails, it's the most professional one. I wouldn't dare try to use my other ones for anything serious.
Honytawk 17 points 3 years ago
Why don't you just turn those notifications off?
Lucidlethargy 16 points 3 years ago
Is there even a single benefit of this? I don't want anything to do with one drive.
eskimofry 30 points 3 years ago
The benefits are:
Data that can be analyzed and form basis of ad profile
Can track you when you are on the move.
Vendor lock-in as you may find that most features are tied to the microsoft account (onedrive, office, outlook)
rustyriffs 7 points 3 years ago
Hey, wait a minute...
Malfeasant 5 points 3 years ago
Nobody specified whose benefit...
Honytawk 6 points 3 years ago
Syncing settings between devices
Bought Windows Store Apps transfer
Syncing Cortana related things
And of course OneDrive, but you already said you don't care.
Honestly, if you don't care about those, it is perfectly fine to just use Windows with a local account. But there definitely are benefits if you are looking for a more Apple-like "everything is connected" vibe.
MystikIncarnate 2 points 3 years ago
This is all accurate. However, there's one other thing, which is essentially SSO.
Basically if you sign in with a Microsoft account, you can sign into your PC with your Microsoft account username and password, which can be easier to reset from another device than going through the password recovery process for Windows.
Apart from that, your bitlocker keys are stored on your Microsoft account if you have that enabled on your main drive.
As an aside: if you have bitlocker enabled on your PC, be sure to back up the recovery key. Print it off, or save it to a USB drive and email it to yourself (the system won't let you save it on the encrypted drive for obvious reasons), or something. Bitlocker isn't bad, I just feel like Microsoft doesn't do a very good job at making people aware of the pitfalls of it when things go sideways. Basically, if you need to pull the drive for any reason as part of a recovery operation, then you'll need the recovery key to decrypt the data and gain access to it for the purpose of recovery.
Fair warning: anyone who purchased a prebuilt PC in the past 3-5 years should check on it (longer realistically), and make sure they have that recovery key. Most prebuilt PC companies (like HP/Lenovo/Dell) generally have bitlocker on by default and Windows does a wretched job of telling you any of this.
Bitlocker isn't bad, it's full drive encryption. That's a good thing for the most part and you should use it, especially with mobile systems, but please make sure you have that recovery key. I work in IT support and it's starting to happen that drives fail, and the client doesn't have the recovery key, so I can't even try to recover the data for them. It used to be trivial, just load the drive into a working system and grab what you need, but with bitlocker, even if you get a corrupted file that's required for Windows to start, but the disk is otherwise fine, your data goes away and will not come back without that key.
Amends1782 16 points 3 years ago
Highly rexommed Mint Cinammon or Pop!_os
chillsmeit 5 points 3 years ago
Honestly I'd say OpenSUSE tumbleweed. Good distro, very up to date/bleeding edge, has YAST which can help newbies who are not familiar with terminal, has btrfs snapshots which saved my arse a couple of times. I don't wanna trigger Arch users, but I find it way more stable than Arch. It gives me almost 0 headaches. Sometimes when I get home I want my PC to just work and I don't want to spend my time troubleshooting it. It's not as customizable as Arch though. If you still find it a bit much for a starter distro, you won't go wrong with Pop_OS, it's a good distro imo, but atm it's too old. No clue when they're gonna release their next update with CosmicDE, but when they release it, it's probably gonna be in a beta state for a while.
Malfeasant -3 points 3 years ago
I suggest Manjaro. Arch made easy.
Bootheal0179 1 point 3 years ago
I have enjoyed manjaro. My sons first laptop ran manjaro with WINE for his gaming. It never gave him too many problems
Thorny_Insight 14 points 3 years ago
I have a Win7 on my PC which I only use for gaming but Steam is telling me it'll stop working on Win7 in about 80 days or so. I installed Win7 on it for a reason but soon it'll be my first ever computer running Linux.
Thorny_Insight 1 point 3 years ago
I guess so. I don't really think about that. As long as stuff works on my end I don't worry about updating it. I'd be happy if I could just install the security updates because updating the OS generally just breaks stuff and slows things down.
Suavevillain 12 points 3 years ago
Windows 10 pushed me into finally jumping into Linux a few years ago. I've been happy ever since it feels good to change what you don't like about a system.
shea 4 points 3 years ago
which distro did you end up on? I started 2 weeks ago with Arch (bad first choice, but i learned a lot), moved to Ubuntu (seemed way too bloated and hard to customize), then PopOS (worse than Ubuntu), and now I'm moving from Manjaro back to Arch. I think that's where I'm gonna stay now that i know how to fix it up and use it.
The only thing i miss from Windows is Adobe, everything else is so much better on Linux. I love how i can customize literally anything and everything, and if i need something specific i can just make it
averyfalken 5 points 3 years ago
I personally landed on mint in its cinnamon flavor. It loosk great, is customizable l, click of a button to get nvidia card working and works just the way I want
Suavevillain 4 points 3 years ago
I started at Elementary OS which I just thought looked cool. Then I lived in Manjaro but had some issues. So I finally jumped to EndeavourOS, It has been smooth and a great experience. Yeah for me I have to use Windows for my Elgato Capture card which is annoying.
CosmicCleric 2 points 3 years ago
I started 2 weeks ago with Arch (bad first choice, but i learned a lot), moved to Ubuntu (seemed way too bloated and hard to customize), then PopOS (worse than Ubuntu), and now Iβm moving from Manjaro back to Arch.
Sincerely, check out Fedora/KDE. It just works, and it's backed well.
lastrogue 1 point 3 years ago
I'm not suavevillain, but I recently switched to PopOS after a love hate relationship with Windows. I would leave Windows, then come crawling back for one reason or another, this stint is the longest I've had staying away from it.
I personally like PopOS. But for a less bloated environment and easy to spin up system, you could look at Linux Mint (https://linuxmint.com/).
danafest 12 points 3 years ago
There's a tool for making bootable windows USB drives called Rufus that gives you options to remove things like requiring a Windows account, TPM requirement for Windows 11, secure boot, etc when you're cloning the iso to the USB drive.
lazynooblet 10 points 3 years ago
I see loads of things on here about what Windows does that gets on people's nerves. Why don't I see any of it on my install? I get no ads, annoying pop-ups etc. afaik it's just win11 pro.
purplemonkeymad 7 points 3 years ago
Hahahaha, if only pro was anything more than home with some added features. If you want the version without ads you need enterprise + a domain or intune.
They probably just turned off suggested links, and tips.
cley_faye 6 points 3 years ago
Did you do anything to your system? I have a Win10Pro, but the first step after installation is to disable a ton of stuff, uninstall and delete a ton of applications, etc. making a lot of that alien to me too.
possiblylinux127 3 points 3 years ago
Consider yourself lucky
adaveinthelife 2 points 3 years ago
I know this won't be popular, but I just upgraded my decades old, unused Hotmail account to outlook, signed in to Windows during install, and have never seen anything about logging in since I did so years ago...
Honytawk 10 points 3 years ago
It only happens on Windows Home versions, it does not happen on Pro versions which you are probably using.
You can still just turn the notification off in the home version:
FakinUpCountryDegen 5 points 3 years ago
just create a "fuckyoaccount" over at protonmail and log in.
I was an early adherent to unique passwords for every login. Now I'm doing a unique email as well. Works a treat, and fucks up their marketing too which warms my heart.
JudahBenHur 6 points 3 years ago
please dont abuse protonmail.
abuse mailfence
JudahBenHur 2 points 3 years ago
beautiful
yournamehere 4 points 3 years ago
anyone want bet when this is going to end? i cant remember any release after xp that not had users cry about shit M$ did. winME...epic...so many sad customers. and while win7 kinda worked ok like a cheap toy you bought it was a telemetry desaster ...oh, and with IE and M$paint that were already shit in winXP. so my questions is: how many generations does it take until ppl stop falling for their crap? i once read animals need like 3 errors to change behavious in a test with electric shocks on two of three exits of a cage. three. that should have stopped most animals to use windows after 98, xp and 7. so if you use win8 or win10 or later....i better stop here
AlternateMrPapaya 2 points 3 years ago
Not a single problem with o&o shut up for me. What exactly becomes bugged & unstable?
miss_brainfart 2 points 3 years ago
Surely it lets you choose what parts to disable, right?
jose1324 0 points 3 years ago
It's not hard to use. It's widely known it fucks up Windows processes. Lots of reddit posts complaining something mundane doesn't work anymore after a shitty tool like shutup or registry edit
Gemini24601 1 point 3 years ago
Maybe in the next 30 years ReactOS will reach a windows 10 level, hopefully sooner.
possiblylinux127 2 points 3 years ago
I'm not sure its development team will live that long
0x4E4F 1 point 3 years ago
Nah, ReactOS is a waste of time and effort. It's like constantly trying to guess what the other person is holding in his hand by doing questionares with the guy... you're bound to lose if he's always 10 steps ahead of you.
On the other hand, Wine, thanks to Proton, is doing quite well.
redcalcium 2 points 3 years ago
Proton works great for gaming because the narrow set of gaming-related API allows Valve and CodeWeaver to focus their effort to make sure most games run well. Windows has a lot more API though and a good percentage of them is still doesn't work that well in wine, which means many apps still have issues or outright unusable in wine. For example, I think iTunes for Windows still doesn't work in wine.
0x4E4F 1 point 3 years ago
I never said it's perfect. In fact, I don't use Wine for gaming at all, but the fact still remains that Wine got A LOT better after Valve got involved.
Agree on the unsuable part. I can even be a witness to that (no Windows drive API, USB is out if the question). But, regarding "regular" apps, yeah, it does the job. If you wana run Adobe or AutoDesk products, yeah, it's no good (depends on the version, but no good for anything above 2018, 2019).
Regarding iTunes... if I was on the Wine team, I wouldn't even consider that for testing... good thing I'm not.
redcalcium 1 point 3 years ago
I didn't even considered running iTunes on linux too. But after installing linux on my macbook, I realized I need to cancel some apps subscriptions only to realized you have to use either an apple device or iTunes for windows to do that. No option to manage your subscription via web at all! After unsuccessful attempt at running iTunes on linux, I ended up dusting off an old ipad mini 2 from my drawer and cancel the subscription from there (thanks god it can still connect to app store, it's still on ios 12).
Cethin 9 points 3 years ago
You might as well block all the FOSS bros. Just stop using FOSS.
(FYI Lemmy is FOSS. The fact that people trying to get away from corporate greed also want to get away from other corporate greed seems like the expectation, not the exception.)
Honytawk 0 points 3 years ago
You can hate one FOSS implementation without hating the concept.
Honestly, the worst thing about Linux is the community of entitled elitists snobs that whine about anything that isn't Linux.
At one point I was tempted to install a distro on my home machine to expand my technological knowledge. But if it turns me into one of those fuckers, then I rather keep my social life. Doesn't matter if Linux is a divinely perfect OS or not.
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Windows is slowly transitioning from a paid and solid OS to freemuim spyware bloated dumb OS.
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