Ubuntu was my training wheels 15 years ago

Windows is so dominant in the market that not using it is still named after them.

I started on Debian potato and used pretty much every distribution at sone point, often three at a time. I've used Ubuntu for the last five years because it's easy, stable and upto date. I know people get very minmax about their choice of os and I love that but yeah we need to remember when we say it's 'fine' or 'good enough' that yeah it's not race tuned or weaponised or whatever special builds people are making but ita still much much better than windows.

Oh snap

Im of the opinion that the distro is far less important than the Desktop Environment. Ubuntu only really "feels like Ubuntu" because of GNOME.

Ha same here. I'd try something else but I really just cba to start again on my server and desktop.

And for those of us that love Arch but don't have time for it, EndeavourOS.

Yeah, well said.

It's one rich dudes toy is how I see it. It's a good distro but once I tried to uninstall some things and it wouldn't let me and so that was the end of it for me at home. I use the server version at work for one machine.

I wouldn't describe Microsoft as a walled garden (and Canonical even less). But maybe that term comes with degrees, and different perspectives of what's tolerable.

For real I started on Ubuntu and nearly a decade later I still would be on Ubuntu if it wasn't for their migration to snaps with the proprietary back end.

for real. my uncle has been programmer his whole life and he was always the most linux guy I've known. I have never seen him use any other os. and yet he uses ubuntu. his own words are thar he doesn't care about all the bells and whistles that come trough distros like arch or gentoo. ubuntu works well enough for him and it's what he is used to, so he uses that.

using ubuntu defiently does not mean you're a noob or non-techy linux user. personally I wouldn't touch it again but the linux culture about arch being superior and others being for noobs is ridiculous

Ironically I've tried installing Ubuntu a couple of times in the past, but for whatever reason it didn't work. I'm currently using Debian instead just because the install worked. No idea why, maybe my laptop is just weird.

I used Arch for years because I wanted to learn more about how linux works and it was a good way to push myself. I think it worked because I am better at problem solving now - I even read the error messages lol

All the linux makes me say "do what now?"

I just want to change the settings on my fan. It's been roughly 2 years.

I ran Gentoo for about 3 years (and will likely return soon) and I reckon there are plenty of really advanced Ubuntu users who know more about how my system works than I do.

Any mainstream general purpose distro can do mostly anything and can be used by power users. Some should ONLY be used by power users, but that doesn't make them inherently better than a distro that both a newbie and a power user can understand and use.

You know why I use Gentoo? Literally the bragging rights. I doubt I'm optimizing things THAT much with my fancy compiler flags.

I still prefer nerdy hipster elitists gatekeepers from greedy corps after all is said and done. The first is unfortunate flaw of human character, the second is a calculated machine. If this is the price to pay then so be it. Individuality often isn’t as nice on the surface as the common but the common often has hidden sinister motives under the comfy, smoothened out rug of user friendliness.

Lonely nerds don’t have PR and marketing teams but also won’t stab you in the back for profit. Sometimes they can be huge assholes though.

I'm not convinced Ubuntu is a good tool for many jobs.

Thanks, have a nice day 🌻

I use Ubuntu on my servers because it just... Works, out of the box I can run my scripts and have no issues 100% of the time. On desktops I used to use SolusOS for gaming as that was the only Linux OS at the time I could comfortably game on without many hiccups.

Yeah I started in the Red Hat 2 era, played with all the WMs and DEs, compiled my own kernel a few times. After a point I had too much going on in my life to tinker with my distro. My needs are simple, I just need a terminal and a package manager.

Snaps have issues sure, but anything is better than the dependency hell of old.

Use what works. It's really that simple.

Do you judge me? I use Windows 7.

If the machine still worked, I'd be using Windows XP.

And thats fine. You are entitled to your opinion, and your opinion is based on actual things.

As long as you don't denigrate and insult others for using it, or try to pretend you're the superior linux hackerman for not using it, You're all good.

10% of the time, sure.

It also runs like a snail

Barely. :)

Love my debian server <3

Once I learned about Linux Mint, I saw no reason to ever use Ubuntu. It has pretty much all the Ubuntu benefits, without canonical controversy, in an even more “just give me a fully featured desktop OS” package.

And like others have posted, I’m not shitting on Ubuntu or its use. If you like it, no need to mess with what works. It’s still Linux. It’s all good. I just never was a user of it, so I jumped straight to Mint for my last install.

How is macOS hipster? Apple products are so damn popular.

What is the best distro for gaming on Linux?

I'm a big PC guy, love building my own computers every few years. But, I use MacBooks for when I'm out of the house/traveling. Because windows laptops suck and MacBooks are just good.

Apple products are basically jewelry, you choose Apple products largely to be seen with them

that's usually the take of someone who has never actually used them. I'm far from an Apple fanboy - I actually use all OS because I understood a while ago that each has its strengths.

my main machine is a Mac and the reason for that is that it is very reliable. I feel like I can count on it to take somewhere and have it just work and not get stuck in a boot loop, or locked out in the login screen (things I faced with linux distros) or stuck in a surprise update screen with Windows.

of course it's a locked down system with little flexibility and could be expensive, but it pays off in reliability imo. when I want to do some more tricky shenanigans I have a machine with linux, and windows is for... well it's only really worth to play games with for me hehe

tldr I wish all jewellery was that useful

Back in my day we used to fax pictures of floppies.

When did Ubuntu get a lickable UI?

Exactly this! Couldnt agree more :)

Because not using windows or MacOS makes you a hipster in the eyes of many people

Whatever flops your mop dude, if works it works 🙌

I was going to post this exact comment because I, too listen to the Linux After Dark podcast.

I use Ubuntu because if we want any chance of proper mainstream usability of Linux, this distro is the best bet. And to help my family with it, I need it ready myself.

I use mint because I only have one. It's simple and does everything I want. I don't need complicated linux, I need a web browser and a NAS VLC terminal.

You should!

You're also the weirdo using singular verbs with a plural noun. An unusual choice for sure.

Edit: wow, thanks for the downvotes. I thought we had moved away from the childish knee-jerk reactions that reddit was famous for.

You could use Linux Mint and there wouldn't be any snaps plus the system will run better

It kinda makes sense, most consumer PCs come with either windows or macOS.

What's wrong with Debian?

Some people develop OS based on vibes. Looking at you Hannah Montana OS

Ubuntu is back to GNOME now.

Yeah, that's the point

to an average user, using ubuntu gives hipster vibes, using most other distros gives neckbeard vibes

That's assuming their eyes don't just glaze over from a lack of understanding what you're on about.

Shoulderster

Mainstream i guess

Hopster

I have a lot of love for OpenSuse. Back in my teenage years, I used it and Ubuntu a lot. zypper is the best package manager, and YaST made configuration easier since I didn't know config files yet.

Generally today a hipster is someone who jumps onto social trends they don't know anything about because they are different from the norm. Often the idea is that they don't care about the thing itself, but rather just being perceived as different. But I'm a long time linux user, and in my head if a hipster is going to try linux it's way more nuanced, like real hipsters (and real linux users). You'll have the dude who tries ubuntu just so he can say "i use linux" to his friends with Macs. You'll have the dude who asks his bandmate who's been using linux for a long time, so he tries Debian, but then gets frustrated and stops, because the "cool factor" isn't enough. And then you'll have the hipster who goes like all in on NixOS or something and makes it their entire identity for awhile. I use arch btw

I hadn't thought about hipsters in like, 15 years or something. But I like the idea of thinking of Ubuntu users as Jazz connoisseurs.

I think it's cool :<

I think that you misspelled Hannah Montana Linux?

I use Aurora, Universal Blue flavour 🌻

F*ck, I'm not a cool kid 😔

Since the offer for a free personal subscription to Ubuntu Pro when doing apt update. That's the terminal equivalent of going to a microbrewery and seeing they only sell $8 IPAs.