After hexbear got defederated from most of the major instances, the fucking losers just make alts on different instances so they can continue defending that propaganda filled shithole. Now .ml seems like the new worst, no matter what you do these no-life losers will find a way to spread their bullshit.

Takes much more effort to try and stop them than it does for these losers to make alts unfortunately.

Somewhere in Moscow, there's a big red phone that connects to its counterpart in Beijing, where Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping discuss the latest attempts to influence an indie reddit spin-off with an elaborate network of Markov Chain LLMs producing comments like "I wish y'all wouldn't be so nakedly racist towards people from other countries."

That's honestly pretty amazing that you've been here a year and haven't seen a troll! Though you're on an instance with a very active and determined admin, there is definitely a difference in how much you see between instances because of how removals work.

You guys are pretty proactive about blocking and defederating bad faith instances, or even ones not doing enough to deal with bad actors. You were one of the first to defederate Hexbear, and I think you even defederated world at one point?

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The matrix one

To prevent the all powerful cum tsunami from wiping us all out

Goderator?

bots, sockpuppets, infowarfare it's all different vlads in the same bag

Last I checked hexbear had something like 70% more total comments than lemmy.world despite only having a tiny fraction of the users. Sounds like bots to me

A lot of troll accounts are semi-automated. They run a script that detects certain keywords, and posts premade replies to them (nowadays said premade replies are being finetuned with generative AI to look less uniform), also a human is watching over them to ensure both correct operation and to overtake in case of emergency.

Source: My father's ex-girlfriend's ex-boyfriend was (is) a paid online troll for Fidesz. They also had Discord (later Matrix if I recall) servers for organizing mass reports, downvotes, angry/haha react campaigns, often they also did some "private doxxing".

nah - they are very real. Maybe sock puppets but real. I imagine them like rich 15 year old kids beeing “rad and cool”

They're paid/programmed to do what they do.

globe supremecists

World and Hexbear are both liberal cesspits. One is full of centrists who think they're leftists, and one is full of conservatives who think they're communists.

Why's that? Got a problem with the left?

Trust me - it’s better than some fucking herb…

It's liberal for deeply unserious I think

He definitely is not. He's a grifter that parrots a lot of right wing nut job conspiracy theories like anti-vaxxing. He's a Liberal at most.

Sinister as shit.

I think it’s a bot assisted human. The amount of spam they output is inhuman but they do interact like a human at times.

She's more of a Devils advocate. Just stating the wrong opinion for others to explain what's right. There's never any clever comeback, so I kind of think that's the reason for her to shitpost so heavily.

I've blocked plenty of trolls here, but not her, yet.

Enshittification isn't what happens when something becomes popular, it's what happens to disruptive tech and commodities that get increasingly fine-tuned for profit after competition inevitably floods in. It's a product of monetization.

Lemmy is FOSS so that won't happen, plus you can splinter off into your own walled garden instance like Beehaw if you want.

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I'm saying she's an academy award nominated character actor and producer

Ozma got banned from politicalmemes recently and it's 1000% better for it

And don't forget capitalist Joe. Nobody is talking about the actual capitalism Joe is supporting because you think you have a good reason for it.

It just doesn’t seem like full genocide yet. Genocide light? You may be proved right but I just haven’t seen it. I’m not there though and I’m not smart. There’s a difference between lining everyone up and killing them and starving them while doing military stuff. You may say there isnt a difference, but those are different things to me. Please don’t get me wrong I think what is going on, seemingly for political reasons, is very wrong and bad. But genocide is about the worst so it’s hard be that bad.

Bring on the downvotes.

I think it would be more likely bots would flood instances with posts at a level that was unrealistic for the small scale admins we currently have to combat.

This'll probably be an "agree to disagree," but I think most websites do make good faith efforts to lower bot usage. Not because I trust them or anything, but because the perception that bot spam is out of control is bad for their bottom line. It drives away real users and high bot activity makes advertisers disinclined to trust that the high traffic is of any value.

I still see their comments all the time and they still upvote their propaganda on other instances.

Just because I'm not seeing these comments and posts doesn't mean other people aren't. And if they're seeing it, then they'll get seduced by the evil tankie mind-control rays. That means I've got to start blocking them, too.

Pretty soon, I'll be in this shrinking walled garden of fewer and fewer people who say things I approve of. And then what?! I might begin to question my own self-righteousness or engage in some degree of critical reflection of views. That'll be it. They'll have gotten to me, too!

The whole Lemmy.world community needs to be severed from any instance of heresy. Otherwise, my personal views might be put at risk.

https://en.prolewiki.org/wiki/Hexbear

They're basically trans communist genocide deniers, they've run troll ops which is why they've been mass de-federated.
See https://lemmy.world/post/2498330

They're kids that like confrontation. They don't actually have any agenda other than "this hexbear user said to follow this!" And they jump on it. The next day could be a completely different stance on the subject.

They've chosen a very confrontational path with the way their instance interacts with others, and as a result they get a lot of push back, which just makes them angrier. I suspect anyone trying to be reasonable on the instance gets accused of not being a true believer as well, so only the angriest remain.

Also, Boost for Lemmy allows you to block an entire instance, it's pretty handy.

Their community came over here long before all us old Redditors and it seems like they've cultivated their own culture and in-jokes and such. It can get confusing to pierce all the irony and sarcasm to figure out what they're saying sometimes.

Yes yes it does… shart … fucker… 420, oh! shark! Misread it.

You tell'em, Best Friend.

I think he is making a joke that OP is, in fact, the bot

Or maybe he's just bullying OP for circlejerking so hard and giving himself a pat on the back as a Lemmy user

What?

What app are you using that lets you tag? I love Eternity but if I can get a similar experience with user tagging I'd be pretty excited to try it

Ooh! What's mine?

I read this comment several times and I still don't understand it. Stand out for what? What content and patterns?

Ah. I didn't know. I also don't know how one does that. But makes sense I guess seeing all those posts.

If it doesn't hurt anyone else why do you care? Swings haymaker

It's been a long while now, that I've been actively reading usernames to try to find one that's nastier, still have not.

I have this tension between not being able to shut the fuck up and also not wanting to be “known”

Typical Asafum

I kind of like the size to be honest, feels more like I'm having an impact by commenting instead of just getting added to the bottom of a 2000 comment post. I never really commented on the other site for that reason.

wow I'm offended but you are right

yes every opinion you don't like isnt automaticly a russian bot and everyone's entitled to have an opinion

No, he means every opinion you don't like is automatically a tankie bot. That's what lemmy is. From tankies, for tankies.

Not at all but that's not the problem. Although grad and communities like them such as r/movingtonorthkoera and r/greenandunpleasent are what is the problem is both .ml and .world are pretty much massive echo chambers. Half the time I'm not quite sure if I'm on Devs instance or world.

He's just a notorious genocide cheering guy. He got site banned from Lemmy.world but since kbin allowed you to keep replying locally and he would boost himself to be on the top of the conversation he'd be a general annoyance for us.

Thorbot's shit hole has expanded to 10x its previous size in the past year, thanks to increased usage by members of the public.

just have to block the lemmy.nfsw instance and it goes away

Sorry, the cheese has spoken.

Flying Squid is not only not a troll, they're a delight.

BonesOfTheMoon - posts a ton of content, not a troll either.

Me. What did this person say about me? They did a dirty delete.

Mine did as soon as I saw Lemmy.ml

They're so predictable it's a meme at this point. Shame though, good communities and some good people on .ml I have to proceed on a case by case with them

You don't need to tell me that .world'ers don't like critiques of capitalism/liberalism.

Capitalism fan detected, opinion discarded.

Why on earth would you think I'm on the American right?

When the competition is "you're not a real person, also you're Russian", even that may be enough.