You didn't bought it you rented it!

3 years ago by Crispy_Mate to c/lemmyshitpost

I hate that everything now is a subscription service instead of buying it and do whatever you want.

knobbysideup 427 points 3 years ago

Other than the recent nonsense, this is why I cancelled Netflix and went back to pirating. Content leaves unexpectedly? Not on my Nas.

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ghostermonster 92 points 3 years ago
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bob_wiley 46 points 3 years ago
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rh4c6f 36 points 3 years ago

I've been buying preowned DVDs off ebay every few weeks or so for the last year. I don't even bother looking to see if they are available to stream anymore.

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GladiusB 16 points 3 years ago

Probably cheaper too

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buckykat 27 points 3 years ago

But then it's in DVD quality. Why not just pirate a full quality version?

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Deftdrummer 18 points 3 years ago

This. My only media expense monthly is my VPN at $10. Everything is pirated.

Even that though - I just download only my favorites for the collection. Everything else is available on stand alone websites these days (multiple) so if you're paying for a streaming service or really even using bittorrent then you're living in the past as far as movies go.

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can 6 points 3 years ago

What should I be using instead of (q)bittorrent?

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errer 11 points 3 years ago

Blurays exist and they’re pretty cheap from thrift stores (often just $3)

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buckykat 7 points 3 years ago

Piracy is free though

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mwguy 2 points 3 years ago

Ya but Blu-ray is a PITA to rip sometimes.

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ghostermonster 0 points 3 years ago
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floofloof 3 points 3 years ago

DVD isn't very good quality. I don't really care and I have a tiny TV, and DVDs still don't look very good on it.

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DM_ME_SQUIRRELS 1 point 3 years ago

The video quality is shit and it's extremely obvious in my opinion. Even the sound is inferior to a good torrent with Dolby TrueHD/DTS HD sound.

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ALostInquirer 4 points 3 years ago

What software would that happen to be, supposing it's not MakeMKV?

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ghostermonster 4 points 3 years ago
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ALostInquirer 1 point 3 years ago

Thanks! I've read that VLC can do it before, but I'll look into giving it another shot sometime. The guides I found weren't exactly the best, but with the mentioned packages I should be able to better narrow the searches to better guides, I think.

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BlueSquid0741 3 points 3 years ago

I’m pretty sure handbrake can rip as well as re-encode.

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oatscoop 76 points 3 years ago

I've taken to de-DRMing any e-books I bought from Amazon for that reason.

Also, the "You can only view this book on 3 devices" -- yeah .... fuck off.

Calibre + DeDRM plugin + KFX plugin. Perfectly legal too, as long as you aren't distributing them.

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ALostInquirer 32 points 3 years ago

Btw, did you know of Weightless Books and Smashwords?

They may not have as many ebooks as Amazon, but they do offer DRM free ebooks, and may be worth keeping in mind to check before going straight to Amazon.

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oatscoop 11 points 3 years ago

Thanks. I had a collection from several years ago of Amazon books, though these days it's my absolute last choice for anything.

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ChrisMcMillan 2 points 3 years ago

This is the way.

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DreadPotato 1 point 3 years ago
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LiveLM 20 points 3 years ago

Content leaves unexpectedly? Not on my Nas.

Except when I accidentally rm -rf the media folder but shhhhhhhh

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AngryAnusHornets 6 points 3 years ago
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SendMePhotos 12 points 3 years ago

Old school pirating or new school? Last time I remember pirates was like... Napster, Limewire, Kazaa... Then went to TPB before it got raided like 8 times... What's the current? Is it still torrenting with proxies?

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Cyyris 21 points 3 years ago

I just got my automated pirating machine set up!

Here's the wiki for the *arr apps!

  • Radarr for movies
  • Sonarr for TV shows
  • Prowlarr for index management
  • Optional Doplarr Discord Bot for requests

Set up your profiles for Radarr/Sonarr to pick the quality of release you want (1080p, min/max file size, etc)

Feed Radarr/Sonarr your qbittorrent info, nzbget & Usenet info

They will automatically search the indexes (I use 1337x for torrents & nzbgeek for Usenet) for the files that fit your parameters, download it, and organize it.

All you have to do is point Plex at the output folders and BAM, automated pirating.

I even took it a step further and set up Doplarr - a Discord bot that handles requests. Now friends/family can ping the bot with their movie/show requests and it'll sync up to Radarr/Sonarr and add their requests!

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overzeetop 15 points 3 years ago

Oh, the high seas are very, very busy these days. Still a bit difficult for the non technical user, but there is buried treasure out there.

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KairuByte 3 points 3 years ago

Non technical users can just use Stremio and a debrid service. Couldn’t be simpler.

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Tavarin 13 points 3 years ago

Torrents are still around, lots of sites out there for them.

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starman2112 2 points 3 years ago

Word on the street is that reddit's arr slash piracy has a pretty good guide to it in their wiki, including lists of generally trustworthy torrent sources. I of course don't torrent, because I'm terrified of legal consequences–I just browse shady but technically legal websites to stream my anime

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Cyyris 1 point 3 years ago
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You999 1 point 3 years ago

New skool is to use automation tools to grab and manage your media. You can still use torrenting but IMO using usenet is more reliable and doesn't flag your ISP. I highly recommend anyone pirating to use 'arrs https://wiki.servarr.com/

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evulhotdog 1 point 3 years ago

Yes but with usenet you need to pay a monthly fee for a provider (generally) and a then the same for an index to find the content.

Also the selection is a lot smaller. IMHO a better solution is using realdebrid if you’re okay with paying already.

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You999 1 point 3 years ago

Yeah I can't argue with the usenet fees but all three of my index sites I've had no issues with their free version so long as you do go wild and download ten terabytes in a night. I've actually had better luck with the selection compared to torrenting, pretty much is there in all of the popular resolutions. The only thing I have finding is some of the obscure adult swim shows but I can't find them on my private trackers either.

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PM_ME_YOUR_ZOD_RUNES 1 point 3 years ago

I've been pirating since Napster and you're right, it's changed a lot. These days, I usually just stream from third party sites. Takes less room on your PC and is faster than downloading a torrent. Dopebox is where it's at for most stuff. 9anime if you like anime, it's better than the paid alternatives like Crunchy roll or Funamation.

If you want to stick to torrents I've found 1337x to be the best since TPB died.

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peanut_boy 7 points 3 years ago

Content leaving isn't a problem. If they give up some things they have more money to get the rights to other content, and usually by the time it leaves I've either watched it or don't want to. If it's one of the rare things I want to watch several times, I can just buy it. But cracking down on password sharing is ridiculous. They've been functioning fine with people sharing passwords. I bet the current pricing accounts for password sharing. But now people in college can't be on the family netflix? Pure greed.

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Snowcano 12 points 3 years ago

Content leaving is totally a problem. I’ve lost track of the number of times my spouse and I say, “Oh hey, what about we finally watch xyz that’s been in our queue for ages? Yeah that seems like a good one for Friday pizza night! …oh, it’s vanished from our queue, hooray.”

It’s not my full time job to keep tabs on what’s coming and going from the damn entertainment service that I hope to use in my ever dwindling reserves of free time. Especially when there’s alternative means available that are not too difficult to use.

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basxto 2 points 2 years ago

This is incredibly annoying for series. Crunchyroll dropped Bleach, a series with over 350 episodes, when I was at episode ~100. A few years ago I started to manually keep track of the episodes I watched, since you lose your progress when they drop it (true for crunchyroll, prime and netflix)

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HawlSera 228 points 3 years ago

Shit that should be fucking illegal, this.

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monobot 101 points 3 years ago

If they were not aware of it before buying then it is illegal.

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Yendor 28 points 3 years ago

You don’t actually need to be aware of it. Because you said you were aware of it, when you clicked Accept on the EULA, and on page 62 of the EULA it said they have the right to disable your printer remotely at any time and for any reason.

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Aceticon 20 points 3 years ago

In decent nations, an EULA is considered an attempt by the seller to, after the purchase, change the terms of the implicit contract which was the sale, so it's has no legal standing whatsoever.

Absolutelly, the seller can set contract terms before the sale is done (and even then there are lots of limitations to avoid things like bait & switch, so it usualy has to be pretty clear and upfront and there are certain rights that a retail buyer simply cannot loose, even contractually), but never after the sale has been done.

EULAs only have legal standing in a few places, including a few States in the US.

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basxto 2 points 2 years ago

EULAs can very well be legal when you can read tgem before you purchase. Though German courts somewhat assume that nobody reads them, which becomes relevant if somebody puts something very unexpected in there. I would expect that they somehow disable only the ink, not the whole printer. Apparently thi also makes buying used printers a mess.

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monobot 3 points 3 years ago

When ever I am forced to sign something (like some contract addendum for my job) I write that I don't understand anything on that paper, or now I write it in email before e-signing.

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HawlSera 9 points 3 years ago

Word

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GladiusB 40 points 3 years ago

It should be. But you agreed to it. Gotta print out that child support declaration in 20 minutes before your lawyer has to go to court? Hey fuck you consumer. Have a medical emergency and need to print something to save a patient? Fuck you consumer.

Someone should sue them for everything they are. Because they are thieves of the highest order.

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ALostInquirer 33 points 3 years ago

But you agreed to it.

When does an agreement become null and void when the knowledge and time needed to understand the terms, and especially whether they even stand in the various jurisdictions, is simply unfeasible for a layperson to be expected to possess?

In a similar vein, if an agreement requires a lawyer on call/retainer to interpret, what court besides a bought court would possibly uphold such a standard?

Fwiw I'm not asking this with the expectation of you personally having the answers, but to further highlight the absurdity of many of these so-called agreements.

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justastranger 37 points 3 years ago

EULAs and TOSs have been tossed out in court before under the logic that you need to understand an agreement for it to be legally binding and that not reading the agreement inherently prevents you from understanding it.

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HaywardT 8 points 3 years ago

Can you provide case law? I'm interested.

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Aceticon 5 points 3 years ago

In most of the World EULAs have no legal standing whatsoever because they're an attempt by the seller to after the sale change the terms of the sale.

It's mainly in the US that those things aren't instantly dismissed by the court as legally meaningless, but then again the US is way less consumer friendly that, for example, pretty much all of Europe.

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vudu 177 points 3 years ago

Third voice for a Brother. I used to work an office supply store and they were by far the most reliable printers we sold.

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ThirdWorldOrder 45 points 3 years ago

I’ve had my Brother printer for several years and never had an issue. I don’t have the color one, just black and white. Would buy again.

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elscallr 22 points 3 years ago

I treat my Brother laser like a rented uhaul truck and it just keeps going.

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AnUnusualRelic 10 points 3 years ago

I have one of the complicated brother ones that scans and prints, including double sides, in colour, and it's a tank. Works fine in Linux too. Connected or through the network.

It even does fax, which someone, somewhere probably finds useful.

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iAmNotorious 1 point 3 years ago

Doctors offices and health insurance. It’s weird but technically fax machines are still considered “secure” communications for sending PHI. Sending it across the internet requires a lot of expensive hoops to jump through, or they could just buy a fax machine.

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AnUnusualRelic 2 points 3 years ago

Send signed email. Done.

Bunch of weirdos, that's what they are.

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Tetsuo 1 point 3 years ago

Funny thing is those faxes are going through internet anyway most of the time.

Where I live fax are considered a legal proof contrary to emails.

So for important contracts it is considered safer than mails.

And honestly it kinda is since an email can totally end up never being recieved without any kind of error or warning. A fax you should know immediately that it wasn't received on the other end.

I still wish fax would disappear soon but an email is not a good replacement.

Emails are now considered the defacto standard for businesses but they suck and are absolutely not reliable.

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dpkonofa 26 points 3 years ago

That was because of a misunderstanding. Brother started a subscription service and people assumed that meant you had to pay a monthly fee to use the printers like with HP. Instead, it’s a toner subscription like Dollar Shave Club or Amazon’s Subscribe and Save where they auto-send a new toner at your requested interval.

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elscallr 16 points 3 years ago

I use cheap Chinese knockoff toner in my Brother laser

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u_tamtam 1 point 3 years ago

I heard they stopped allowing that recently.

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elscallr 4 points 3 years ago

Mine still allows it. There might be a model or two that doesn't but I'd be surprised.

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sadreality 14 points 3 years ago
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Buffalox 23 points 3 years ago

I also heard a rumor about something somewhere, that maybe something might have happened. But I'm not sure. /S

I just installed a Brother printer for my dad, absolutely zero bullshit.

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empireOfLove 19 points 3 years ago

Yes, some of their firmware updates started breaking aftermarket toner cartridges and support said "that sucks" like it was very intentional. It seems constrained to a few of the MFC color models more than anything tho I've never had any issues other than bad wifi modules in the b&w home office lasers. Which if you're using wifi on a printer that's your own damn fault lol

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Zink 7 points 3 years ago

Eh, I am all about wired networking wherever I can, but my awesome old Brother laser printer gets used like once per month or two, and it lives off in a far corner of the house where it isn’t taking up valuable space. Plus it could work with a tiny fraction of the LAN bandwidth available to it.

On wi-fi it stays, lol. I think I may have had to reconnect it once in the decade+ we’ve had it. Otherwise, the printout is ready before I can even walk to the printer (unless it has a ton of pages, naturally).

I don’t even know how old it is at this point. I just know it’s over a decade because I didn’t buy a third party toner cartridge until 2014.

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Buffalox 5 points 3 years ago

Yeah I'm not sure whether this is shenanigans or an actual problem Brother is managing here. The post does mention there are problems with incorrect response to temperature management with the unoriginal cartridge, which again could theoretically cause harm.

I honestly wasn't aware unoriginal cartridges were a thing for Brother printers, since the originals tend to be quite reasonable.

But to continue using the unoriginal cartridges he can as the answer states, use BRAdmin to downgrade the firmware.

So it's not like Brother is attempting to take control of your printer like HP likes to do.

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floofloof 1 point 3 years ago

Can you avoid firmware updates? Are there domains that need to be blocked to prevent them?

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Tavarin 8 points 3 years ago

I've had the same brother inkjet printer for 14 years now, and it still works great.

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MrJameGumb 170 points 3 years ago

I just read an article the other day that said LG is about to start charging subscription fees for washing machines 🙄

I will go old school and start washing my clothes against a rock in the river before I'll pay a fucking subscription to use my own washing machine

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MiddleWeigh 76 points 3 years ago

That is crazy.

Like a damn laundromat. So is LG gonna supply water and power too? Wtf are the charging for? The right to buy their product? Lmao. Fuck off.

Go analog. Real analog. Sticks and stones baby.

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MrJameGumb 38 points 3 years ago

The article said the subscription was for "software updates" which really seems like something they should provide for free anyway so you're really just paying for the privilege to use their precious machine that you already paid for lol

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programmer_belch 48 points 3 years ago

Software updates for what? New ways to wash your clothes? I only use like two or three settings in mine

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MrJameGumb 25 points 3 years ago

Knowing LG it's probably updates to make it play Jingle Bells at Christmas time or something lol

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Clocksstriking13 9 points 3 years ago

I think it's for "smart" washing machines that you can control from your phone etc. So that's likely what the "updates" would be related too...why you'd need to control your washing machine from afar is beyond me but some people love smart gadgets and will by anything that connects to their phone.

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Perfide 24 points 3 years ago

Fucking software updates for a washing machine? If my washing machine needs a software update, that should be a fucking recall. A washing machine should be a fully embedded system imo.

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DrQuint 19 points 3 years ago

It's updates for the cybersecurity that exists strictly only because it is connected to the internet which in turn is something that exists strictly only because there's software updates.

Megaman Battle Network was prophetic. Terrorist will flood your house using a phone.

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Countsheep 18 points 3 years ago

I hope this is rage bait because I can’t think of any reason a washing machine would ever need a software update. Is it like a smart machine? If so then just let me disable it

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joel_feila 19 points 3 years ago

what is the difference between a subscription and a never ending loan

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luffyuk 26 points 3 years ago

With a loan you actually receive money at the start.

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floofloof 5 points 3 years ago

A loan usually comes with full support and warranty service for the duration of the loan. With a subscription I bet you get to pay without receiving these benefits in return.

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joel_feila 1 point 3 years ago

Well any manufacturer warranty would apply to the machine regardless of how you pay for it

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SubArcticTundra 11 points 3 years ago

Yeah. I think I'd rather employ someone to wash my clothes for me than pay a subscription

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moosetwin 4 points 3 years ago

man the world is so fucked up that I was more surprised that they weren't already doing this

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EmperorHenry 122 points 3 years ago

Every time I think printers can't get any worse, they get worse.

What's next? are they going to have to scan your anus to confirm that it's actually you printing things? I shouldn't give them ideas.

By the way, I'm sure there's a way to get into the firmware of the printer to disconnect it from that centralized service.

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Shard 33 points 3 years ago

Or get the brother printer while they're still good.

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Ddhuud 30 points 3 years ago

What's next?

Printed ads.

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EmperorHenry 41 points 3 years ago

Yes

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CrowAirbrush 4 points 3 years ago

I would think it plays an ad on the screen and you have to touch it to start so it knows you're there and doesn't print until the ad is finished.

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Ddhuud 1 point 3 years ago
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Geriatrickid 4 points 3 years ago

I can picture it, if you don't want ads printed at the bottom of every page you have to subscribe.

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FlyingSquid 3 points 3 years ago

Oh god, imagine your printer waking you up at 3 am as it spits out an ad for Arby's. But hey, ink at half price!

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postmateDumbass 29 points 3 years ago

What’s next?

The firmware will ask for a tip every 10 pages.

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utopianfiat 14 points 3 years ago

Please drink a verification can

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c0mbatbag3l 6 points 3 years ago

"PLAYER ATTEMPTING TO STEAL ONLINE PLAY!!!"

mom just walked in the room

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EmperorHenry 2 points 3 years ago

I can't imagine why it wouldn't. The companies that make printers have always been scamming people with their printers and all the shitty things the printers do.

They're designed to be shitty and expensive on purpose so that you have to call the guy to fix it and pay an enormous amount of money every time the printer stops working by design.

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RandomlyAssigned 17 points 3 years ago

If they could get away with it, they would have made paper that only works on their printer, and it would be more expensive than normal paper but you have to use it.

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first_ad4972 12 points 3 years ago

Why not just not allow it to connect to any internet and use wired printing?

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EmperorHenry 43 points 3 years ago

Even better!

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cloudy1999 5 points 3 years ago

A whole other brown ring of quality

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Dasnap 3 points 3 years ago

Please drink verification can to continue

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archonet 113 points 3 years ago

Ready boys? Say it with me, now.

BROTHER👏LASER👏PRINTER👏

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subcytoplasm 85 points 3 years ago path: 0 2002052, hotness: undefined, score: 85, children: 10
blacklizardplanet 72 points 3 years ago

Subscriptions are out of fucking hand.

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Zeroxxx 17 points 3 years ago

It has been normalized by Streaming Services. Sad situation.

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WhatASave 11 points 3 years ago

Looks like pirating is back on the menu, boys!

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TIEPilot 8 points 3 years ago

Never stopped my friend...

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fidodo 65 points 3 years ago

What the fuck is wrong with people? It's been common knowledge that hp is trash for decades now. The whole idea of capitalism is that the bad products fail when customers go to the competitors who do a better job, but hp is not a monopoly and there are better competitors that exist, but people keep in buying HP because frankly, they are too fucking stupid. Capitalism is a lie because consumers are too stupid to pick the best products.

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indigocc 61 points 3 years ago

HP printers are now pure scamming dog shit. The HP printer division must have been taken over by criminals.

The first laser printer I worked with was a HP 4L and it was fantastic. So fantastic, that we implemented it company wide, and they were close to immortal. The last of them got killed off when we got follow-me print.

If you want a decent laser printer today, stay clear of HP and get a Brother instead.

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efrique 57 points 3 years ago

I've been saying for about 15 years now -- you'd have to be a masochist to buy HP printers. Why do people keep enabling these shits? You just encourage them to be even worse. Don't stand for even a little of their bullshit and they will change or die. You make a noose for your own neck.

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Laice 52 points 3 years ago

Printer company are one of the biggest legalized scammer we currently have. Out water and some ink they make huge amount of Profit.

They are the Definition of making Gold out of shit.

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MyMooseIsLoose 42 points 3 years ago

Their laptops and desktops are terribly cheap too. Just avoid HP all together is everyone's best bet.

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1984 38 points 3 years ago

So they have all these printers connected to their servers I guess. Nice. Not a security risk at all.

Best printer I've owned has been Brother. But hp is always at the top of reviews, because hp pays them off I guess.

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SOB_Van_Owen 37 points 3 years ago

A shame to hear how far HP has fallen. Back in the day they had some solid, workhorse laser printers that delivered for years with no issues and pretty good toner efficiency. Based on what I've read here, I'm not likely to buy another.

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ScrollinMyDayAway 37 points 3 years ago

Homeowner-targeted inkjet printers are evil, especially from HP. NEVER buy one that works a subscription into the purchase. They are garbage, and can disable your cartridges if you cancel your subscription.

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woefkardoes 10 points 3 years ago

HP is a horrible company. They make things up just to make life difficult for consumers. Everyone should boycott them I make sure none of the hardware the company I work for is HP as well.

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Hadriscus 2 points 3 years ago

But your subscription to what exactly ?

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ZombiFrancis 20 points 3 years ago

Giving HP money. Protection money. Because you know, it'd be a shame if for some unfortunate and unrelated reason you couldn't print on your printer anymore. Accidents just happen. Every day.

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Hadriscus 1 point 3 years ago

Totally see this mafia vibe

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jumperalex 4 points 3 years ago

Because fuck you, that's why. -HP

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Raxiel 2 points 3 years ago

Ink cartridges. Instead of paying up front, they send you cartridges for 'free' and automatically dispatch replacements whenever they get low (or if you have a problem like they get so gummed up the head clean can't fix them) If you don't want the subscription, you have to buy your own carts retail, then it's just like a 'traditional' printer.

The sub itself isn't (in my opinion) scummy just a value proposition. What is a bit scummy is that the carts that come with the printer are yours, but you can enroll them in the sub service. You can do that the day you buy it or right before they run out. In theory they're supposed to revert to 'owned' if the sub is cancelled, but I've heard there can be hoops to jump through. The carts that come with the printer are tiny compared to either retail or rental so won't last long either way.

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Hadriscus 1 point 3 years ago

Thanks for the clarification, had no idea this was a thing.

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Clocksstriking13 1 point 3 years ago

It looks like this subscription may be for their "smart" printers. So the subscription would be for the connection to phone service. Why you'd need a smart printer is beyond me but they apparently think there is a market for it.

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cicapocok 35 points 3 years ago

"You'll own nothing and you'll be happy"

I guess this sentence is already became the reality in some countries if you can't even buy a god damn printer without it locking you out.

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nl4real 35 points 3 years ago

My mom's Amazon Halo that counts steps just shut off because they ended the service. I do not trust anything that requires live service at this point.

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bappity 34 points 3 years ago

nobody should support companies that place restrictions on their hardware for RANSOM

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Sneptaur 31 points 3 years ago

This is generally for a business lease contract with HP. I've never seen this done to a printer the person buys outright, only for contracted leased "pay-per-use" printers.

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iAmTheTot 43 points 3 years ago

HP does an ink subscription thing. They will try to trick you into it, too, so I'm sure lots of people sign up without realizing just by trying to use their printer software. Anyway, that ink stops working if you stop paying.

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Sneptaur 23 points 3 years ago

Yeah I looked into it, some models require the HP+ subscription to work. That's only on some of their loss leader models but still misleading, so that's still shitty

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givesomefucks 15 points 3 years ago

They come with a cartridge and "six months free ink" if you register.

But if you register and then six months later realize you never use it and you cancel...

They lock the cartridge

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agent_flounder 5 points 3 years ago

Yeah no thanks on ink subscription. Also, my printer still works great... but HP forgot how to write software apparently so now I use a 3rd party android print app. Ugh. I'm kind of fed up with the HP experience lately.

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0235 3 points 3 years ago

Yes. Co-worker got a super cheap printer, and then tried to cancel the ink subscription. turns out he couldn't just buy ink from them, and his printer was useless.

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w3dd1e 1 point 3 years ago

Yeah. It happened to me too. And they wouldn’t let me use the full ink cartridge I had because it was tied to the subscription. I had to go buy a completely separate ink cartridge and disconnect some other thing to print a stupid form. Fuck HP

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MaxPower 30 points 3 years ago

Well I guess I will keep my 13 years old b/w laser printer then. Still works like a charm. There is no dried ink, no DRM, nothing. And it just works even it has not turned on for a year.

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ciagovv 29 points 3 years ago

Buy a brother printer instead. They may be a bit more expensive, but their easy mantainance and the amount of bootleg ink you can find online makes it worth the extra price.

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FReddit 29 points 3 years ago

I hate these things. I took one out to an abandoned reservoir and blew it to pieces with a .12 gauge shotgun. Very therapeutic.

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TIEPilot 21 points 3 years ago

"PC load letter? What the fuck does that mean?"

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FReddit 10 points 3 years ago

It was .12 gauge triple ought buckshot Office Space.

I would never buy another HP printer, except for target practice.

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calhoon2005 1 point 3 years ago

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regex1883 28 points 3 years ago

++ for brother. Still running my mfc j470 ink jet purchased in 2013. I purchased it because of their support of Linux and Android. I've NEVER used official ink cartridges besides what came with it. it's printed 6900 pages

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quixotic120 28 points 3 years ago
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dumblederp 19 points 3 years ago

FWIW I've an $100 brother laser (2140) the same age. The toner cartridges are $20 on eBay. I've bought two or three in the last 20 years.

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HaywardT 5 points 3 years ago

When I last did a TCO analysis of printers brothers came out on top by a big margin.

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Saik0Shinigami 3 points 3 years ago

I've done a few TCO's over the years... Brother is almost always up there...

I've had my current color laserjet for damn near a decade... bought it used/refurbed from them. I just hope brother doesn't try what the others are doing.

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UltraBlack 7 points 3 years ago

black toner is cheap, everything else is expensive as hell. But yes, toner printers are probably your best option for cheap printing.

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quixotic120 1 point 3 years ago
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sylvain 3 points 3 years ago

Same, except it's an Officejet 6600 from early 2010. I use third party ink cartridges in it. Fuck those expensive "genuine" ink cartridges!

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agent_flounder 3 points 3 years ago

Pretty sure toner is cheaper than what HP charges for ink.

I had an ancient laserjet for years and HP stopped making toner. Wished I had kept it and used 3rd party toner but I heard about others not having great experiences with that.

That said our old OfficeJet 8600 is still going great and no subscriptions.

How it is legal to charge a subscription for a device like that is beyond me. Need to pass state laws to stop that bullshit I think. That's the only way that might actually be remotely feasible.

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Styxia 2 points 3 years ago

As this year has progressed I’ve become increasingly disillusioned by technology. Shit just stops working, random upgrades, and adverts invading my search results, the list is endless. I have an LG washer and needed to install an app to diagnose the problem. The Wi-Fi chip took multiple attempts to connect, and then the app required countless permissions to anything and everything. My work is making me travel and the hotel doesn’t have a check in desk, alas I need to install and app and upload my photo ID… ffs!!

There was a recent episode of Always Sunny where Denis takes a mental health day. It can’t be more accurate! I am so over being harassed by technology. To some degree I invited it into my life, I’ll own that. But I think I’m slowly becoming a willful Luddite and I’m absolutely fine with that!

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IMongoose 1 point 3 years ago

I have a 1320n. When I bought toner about 5 years ago and it was $20 for third party, works fine. Every few months I flip it on, print a few pages (sometimes from my phone), and flip it off again. Ezpz.

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quixotic120 2 points 3 years ago
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jayrodtheoldbod 27 points 3 years ago

At this point I'm afraid to update anything because it will turn into a debilitating subscription fee. One is whatever, but 50 of them is insane, and that's kinda where it's going. Monthly fee for breathing next.

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DrPop 8 points 3 years ago

Remember when mr krabs tried to make them pay for every little thing while at work

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jdp459 27 points 3 years ago

I switched to one of the Epson EcoTanks after the HP Ink got super expensive (Over $150 to replace all 4 cartridges). Printer was $$$ but the ink in bottles ($15 a pop, Costco sells them all in a pack for $40) is cheap enough that for the in-frequent printing we do at home (My partner uses it more than me for making buttons and stuff)

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revlayle 25 points 3 years ago
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Bdaman 24 points 3 years ago

My in laws bought one of those damn HP’s. It had an issue 1 month in and required the special setup cartridges to re-run the wizard. But those had already been used up and discarded. It wouldn’t f-ing work with regular cartridges, and their subscription wouldn’t let them get more setup carts. Literal 1 month old e waste

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gratux 8 points 3 years ago

What is this "setup cartridge" and who thought it would be a good idea?

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Bdaman 1 point 3 years ago

Apparently the device setup wizard can only be ran with the special low volume cartridges that come with it. And if they did still have those, the wouldn’t have worked since they were out of ink. Total scam setup to extract money out of un knowing consumers.

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a1studmuffin 22 points 3 years ago

I have absolutely no idea why anyone buys inkjet printers or cartridge razors. There are perfectly good alternatives that don't try and force you into a subscription model.

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thatdukeluke 20 points 3 years ago

It's always funny to see content creators you watch appear randomly somewhere else Wendigoon is a great long form content creator for unfiction and conspiracy theories and here he is talking about a printer.

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Quexotic 20 points 3 years ago

Business class laser printers are where it's at. I don't get why people still buy inkjets.

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dog_ 19 points 3 years ago

THROW IT OUT THE WINDOW

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insertfloppydiskhere 19 points 3 years ago

Okay so I see all this talk about ducky printers but if I want one that's not trying to guck me over which would that be?

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snobben 51 points 3 years ago

Brother printers are fantastic. They cost a but more upfront but actually work

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Jamie 51 points 3 years ago

Additional hot take: get a laser printer for your normal documents and just get photos printed somewhere else. The money you'd spend buying 4x6 photos on someone else's ink and paper would probably be less than you'll pay for color ink unless you're an absolute photo printing maniac. And a laser printer toner cartridge will last you like 1,000+ pages.

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Breadnbrew 10 points 3 years ago

Agreed, my wife and I got a Brother laser printer about 3 years ago and I still haven't had to change the toner. It's been telling me the toner is low for months but still keeps going strong. Granted we don't print a TON, but we print enough that the initial cost of a laser printer made sense.

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Zink 6 points 3 years ago

This is the way to do it. Getting your photos printed by somebody else will be tons cheaper AND give you better results.

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Rubanski 5 points 3 years ago

Second this. Bought a Dell one 10 years ago and it's still working like a charm! Got me through all of Uni Ani besides the finicky diva driver it's just amazing!

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CarnivorousCouch 22 points 3 years ago

Yep, I bought a Brother laser printer for $120 a few years ago. I don't use it super often, but it's been reliable and easy to use whenever I need it. I've never had to replace the toner. It just works.

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TwoGems 4 points 3 years ago

Is it good for someone who constantly needs to print documents

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VelociCatTurd 18 points 3 years ago

This is just anecdotal, but I work in IT and I can’t recall a brother printer ever giving me a headache. HP is obviously the worst.

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Buffalox 5 points 3 years ago

A laser printer is best no matter if you print a lot or a little.

Brother will generally be an excellent choice. While HP will generally be probably the worst choice you can make.

Edit:

Just to be clear, laser is better if you print a little, because the laser cartridge doesn't dry, and can last a decade. While even if you don't print a lot, you will need to replace ink cartridges regularly, because they dry out.

If you print a lot, the laser printer is both more reliable, faster and cheaper to use.

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Semi-Hemi-Demigod 3 points 3 years ago

As long as you don’t need color a laser printer is way better for printing documents.

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ebits21 1 point 3 years ago

I printed a ton of documents in university with a black and white brother laser printer. All my notes were always printed, for example.

Still have it over a decade later.

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Cornpop 1 point 3 years ago

The best. Color laser is pricey but not many people would need that.

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johnnyjayjay 4 points 3 years ago

Needed something to print the occasional document for bureaucracy stuff, and I also got a Brother printer a while ago. Used, laser (very important for good value imo), 100 bucks. An older model, black-and-white but with wifi support. Didn't need to register my license, create a cloud account or whatever other shit companies come up with these days, I could just turn it on and it worked.

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FlyingSquid 2 points 3 years ago

They're incredibly reliable. I've had the same Brother laser printer for a good 15 years now. Possibly longer. Old enough that there's no wifi or bluetooth options, but it's a network printer because it has ethernet.

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ebits21 4 points 3 years ago

I made my old brother a wifi printer with the help of a raspberry pi.

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skulblaka 15 points 3 years ago

Second the recommendation for a Brother. I've rarely had problems with them. Above all do NOT buy an HP printer because they come with every form of nickel-and-dime known to mankind.

Alternatively, for the once in a blue moon that the average person needs to actually print things in the modern day, bring your local library a fiver and use their printer. This is the way I do things, because I rarely ever need to print a document. When I do, it's a ten minute drive and a five dollar or less cost and then I don't have to bother with owning a printer.

But in general, Brother is a good brand, and a laser printer will be less hassle and easier to manage than an inkjet, but will have a bit higher purchase cost.

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ManosTheHandsOfFate 3 points 3 years ago

A lot of my printing happens when parents visit. They love to print everything. I'm much more likely to use the scanner on my Brother printer than actually print.

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wren 3 points 3 years ago

Yes on the Libraries! Libraries are often incredibly cheap for printing, and most of them have an online uploading tool so you can print things from your home computer or phone without any hassle. Plus, at least at the library I work at, we have incredibly high quality printers and your docs / photos will come out a lot better than how they would if you were at home, as well as a scanner that can give you a 600dpi TIFF file

Just please try not to hand us a twenty for something that costs 1/100th of that - we often don't have enough small bills to make change. (Or do and put it on your account for later, if that's an offered option, or better yet donate the remainder 😉)

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bleistift2 2 points 3 years ago

In Germany there are a lot of stores that let you use their printer for 10ct per page. Is this not the case in the US (or wherever you live)?

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kingthrillgore 4 points 3 years ago

FedEx and Staples have document printers for less than 10 cents a page. This is what I've been doing for years now, when someone won't just take a PDF straight up.

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FlyingSquid 2 points 3 years ago

Go to the library next time and see if they'll let you do it for free. They may very well.

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skulblaka 3 points 3 years ago

Most businesses in the US have a hard rule against connecting any outside hardware to the network, for security purposes. If you bring them a USB drive you will be asked to leave. If you can get whatever you need printed into a company email, you might stand a chance, but it would frequently require you having a personal connection to someone in the company willing to print your document for you, and depending on the document it will often not be appropriate for business email. American businesses are not really set up to be print shops and most of them would likely not help you unless you go somewhere like a Fedex-Kinkos that IS explicitly a print shop.

Libraries, however, will always have a printer you can use. It just costs, usually a negligible amount per page (10-50 cents depending on the particular library), but they've got no issues with you showing up with a USB drive and printing off of it, or logging into your own document storage (email, onedrive, etc) to print from there, because the computers are intended for public use.

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uint32 7 points 3 years ago

Brother ist the way to go. Also OK for Linux in my experience

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johnnyjayjay 3 points 3 years ago

From my experience, printer support on Linux is often better than on Windows because all the drivers are included in the kernel and you don't have to go driver hunting on obscure websites.

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bufordt 2 points 3 years ago

The new brothers also work fine with chrome os.

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floofloof 1 point 3 years ago

I just got around to setting up my Brother MFC-2750DW in OpenSUSE Tumbleweed. I was prepared for a long process, but Brother publish Linux drivers for it and the whole setup took about 5 minutes. Works perfectly over wifi. Easiest Linux printer setup I've ever done. And it's happy with third-party cartridges too.

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jerrimu -2 points 3 years ago

Most hp models are fine, I have a laser jet I swear by.

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tlit341569 17 points 3 years ago
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itsmaxyd 16 points 3 years ago

Back in my days we were able to purchase the printers

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Apeeksiht 16 points 3 years ago

buy laser printers. ink is pretty cheap and as we refill cartridge. i have a hp and and never suffer these subscription shit.

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ramenshaman 16 points 3 years ago

Fuck HP.

Source: my dad worked at HP so most of my computers and printers growing up were HP.

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mojofrododojo 16 points 3 years ago

it was an amazing company that did legendary, pioneering research and development and made outstanding research tools. the HP of today is the result of 50 years of mergers, acquisitions, conglomeration, and violent shittification.

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joenforcer 9 points 3 years ago

The HP you mention still exists today as Hewlett-Packard Enterprises, a separate company from HP Inc, which is the consumer-facing brand. It's very similar to what Motorola did in splitting into enterprise and consumer companies.

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TheActualDevil 10 points 3 years ago

Fun fact! Motorola started out as a company making record players specifically for cars. The big name in record players at the time was Victrola, and since they were making them for motorcars they called themselves MotoRola.

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TastyWheat 2 points 3 years ago

I didn't know that! Having vinyl in the car tho.... hmmm... seemed to work out just fine for them though.

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Kushia 1 point 3 years ago

I'm fairly sure that HP Enterprises includes their IT outsourcing arm and anybody who's had experience with them will confirm how shit they are too.

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masterairmagic 16 points 3 years ago

Fuck HP

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m3t00 15 points 3 years ago

learn to print to pdf and save the file. can always print but even better you can email it etc. brother laser scanner is best I've owned. son bought me one of these, "Brother MFC-L2710DW series Printer" to replace a still working brother laser 2170w, 10 yo. I don't print a lot but wife prints every receipt which end up in the trash

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fernandu00 14 points 3 years ago

Looks like I'm not changing my almost 10 year HP LaserJet printer after all..

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0235 14 points 3 years ago

Maybe not the same, as its more of a service contract. At work, we have had a site which has been closed for 2 years. for 2 whole years, every week the vending machine company arrive, try to get in, can't, ring us, and we say "that site is closed".

Well we finally after 2 years got them to remove that site from their system?

Their response? to remove ALL food from ALL vending machines at all our sites, to remove the coffee machines, and to remove the water coolers. The water coolers are especially egregious, as they just sit there doing nothing. they are from tap water, so not even replacing bottles etc.

Sometimes subscriptions are useful. I wish the BBC TV licence in the UK was a subscription. I cannot justify spending £150 on a licence for an entire year, just to watch a month of shows. but other times it sucks. I just want Microsoft office. I don't care if it will cost me £200. Right now my favourite game is subscription based, but i don't think i can justify the £9.99 a month, or £50 for a whole year. £50 for lifetime access? maybe.

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TonyTonyChopper 13 points 3 years ago

LibreOffice has more functionality and it's actually free

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programmer_belch 10 points 3 years ago

With the current situation, no way you are getting a lifetime access. Companies have discovered that people actually pay for subscriptions even if they don't add anything worthwhile to keep you renewing.

You are just renting and there is no option to buy.

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lostferret 3 points 3 years ago

You can still buy liscenses for office. I just bought a key off a shady vendor for $30 and have a fully activated, non subscription office 2022

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ReginaPhalange 2 points 3 years ago

...until Microsoft decides to disable this obviously hacked Office

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lostferret 2 points 3 years ago

Dont think they can, it's a real key for the software, the distributor just gets them bulk and through "grey" channels. There's a whole writup on it.

Regardless i used to full pirate the whole office suite and hadn't had an issue for 20 years, I'll just go back to that if they somehow decide this key is illegitimate

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TheBlue22 13 points 3 years ago

What are good printer companies? Fuck HP and Epson

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elscallr 16 points 3 years ago

Get a Brother laser. Don't bother with color.

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0235 1 point 3 years ago

people always say this, but 95% of what i print is index and reference cards that need colour :( I would love to get a B&W printer, but i need the colours.

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Saik0Shinigami 2 points 3 years ago

Color Laserjet is the way if you "need" colors. The only time inkjet is any better is if you're printing actual photo quality stuff. But at that point it's cheaper to just buy it through an online company like https://www.nationsphotolab.com/prints.aspx rather than maintaining the printer itself.

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elscallr 1 point 3 years ago

Well shit. I literally have never needed color for printing but I get it.

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mundane 10 points 3 years ago

Brother

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Kerrangutan 8 points 3 years ago

HP certainly needs fucked with a pineapple, Epson otoh, I'm not so sure, I have two eco-tank printers and have had no issues with them whatsoever.

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BlackRing 5 points 3 years ago

I have an ecotank too. No BS subscription shenanigans, painless to get it working. What impresses me is the lack of it breaking if it sits even months between uses, usually not even needing to be cleaned.

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Kerrangutan 5 points 3 years ago

And since ink can be bought in bulk, it's cheap to run too.

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I_Miss_Daniel 3 points 3 years ago

Epson are ok as long as you remember they're descended from Tamagochis. Leave them alone for a month and they'll sometimes clog up for ever.

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Tavarin 8 points 3 years ago

My Brother printer has been going for about 14 years, so I recommend them.

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notenoughbutter 7 points 3 years ago

OK, but what printer does your brother use?

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Tavarin 2 points 3 years ago

Also a Brother :P

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MiddleWeigh 1 point 3 years ago

Buy a slightly older one. I have a cannon now, it's works great. I don't print all that much anyway, so I'm not too knowledgeable about printers tbh.

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itsgroundhogdayagain 1 point 3 years ago

Canon laser printers

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Noedel 1 point 3 years ago

I have an Epson ink tank one and it's 100 times better than HP. Is Epson really that bad?

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TheBlue22 1 point 3 years ago

I had a terrible experience with epson

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BellaDonna 1 point 3 years ago

Brother used to be a holdout, but they probably aren't anymore.

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Rhodin 5 points 3 years ago

If you get a Brother, it’s best to go with laser, as the toner will last ages. If you’re on a budget, the Brother inkejet I have gives zero shits what cartridges I put in there, as long as they’re the right shape. I usually have to clean the contacts on top of the cartridges before inserting like it’s an NES, though.

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callmepk 13 points 3 years ago

HP Printers is definitely one of the worst printers right now; I hate you need a account to use your HP printers

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godless 3 points 3 years ago

You can still run the old software without account, as long as you never upgrade. Some third party file hosters keep it around. We got an HP at work and I refuse to give them even my business email.

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SGG 2 points 3 years ago

HP consumer stuff is crap.

Hp business/enterprise stuff is passable. HP is also fairly good when it comes to warranty work.

We've got a bunch of places with HP printers. Only one out of about 100 has been a complete lemon. In the past few years.

Fuji and Lexmark business ones are good as well.

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einlander 13 points 3 years ago

Even worse, if you subscribe to the ink service with an HP printer, it will update the firmware. But if you decide to cancel the service, they don't change the firmware so you now own a brick.

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bob_wiley 7 points 3 years ago
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Blaat1234 1 point 3 years ago

If you print regularly, HP's 6 cent per page, 100 pages per month plan is about the same price as a small black and white laser's drum and toner.

But you can plan full page photos on photo paper with it for that 6 cent too, not just BW documents. I like it, a full year costs about the same as 1 set of XL OfficeJet ink and you never have to try to save money by going BW / draft mode. Just print whatever. Clean the head whenever needed. It's all included.

Yes it is a subscription, but this one is actually useful. And it gets cheaper the more you print, up to small office volumes. We have it at multiple offices on a 300/700 pages plan.

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bob_wiley 2 points 3 years ago
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DrQuint 1 point 3 years ago

Wait, 6 cents? That's three times what I paid to print stuff at uni.

Okay that was a decade ago, but still, I don't pay 3x for other office services.

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Dasnap 12 points 3 years ago

Can you homebrew a printer? Maybe fake responses to phone-homes?

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starman2112 11 points 3 years ago

It's so cool that we live in a world where you can 3d print a gun more reliably than you can 2d print an insurance card

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traveler01 11 points 3 years ago
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Hazdaz 10 points 3 years ago
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OberonSwanson 9 points 3 years ago

This should be illegal, hell I have a TP-Link router and it’s got a subscription model for the features, that a decade ago were basic features of a router that you’re spending hundreds of dollars on. Unless we make it unpopular from a media/social standpoint, they’ll keep it up. Too make it worse, the router won’t even allow you to manually choose your own channels, you have to let it decide for you. Even if you have an IT background and can decipher the better channel, it decides to choose heavily trafficked channels on all bands. Let me make me own mistakes and learn, I don’t want to be forced like an invalid in a nursing home.

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Planetur 9 points 3 years ago

I got a printer where I fill up the ink tank myself. Fuck all these other printers.

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bassow 9 points 3 years ago

Meanwhile my laser Kyocera prints full color full duplex and doesn't try any funny business.

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Buffalox 8 points 3 years ago

I don't get how this is legal, and my guess is that it isn't in EU and many other countries that aren't USA.

Anyone ever heard one of these stories from EU?

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dot20 2 points 3 years ago

They offer it in the EU. They don't force you to choose the subscription, you can also just choose to buy the cartridges at the store outright if you want to. I don't really understand the big hoopla about being offered that choice.

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MetaCubed 4 points 3 years ago

If you sign up for the subscription, the printer is "adjusted" to disallow store bought cartridges while it is enrolled

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Buffalox 2 points 3 years ago

The big hoopla is that in some cases they disable your printer so you can't buy your ink independently. That's the part I suspect is illegal in EU. Obviously subscriptions aren't illegal.

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Cryan24 8 points 3 years ago
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Thedogspaw 8 points 3 years ago

Welcome to the future you now have to pay a sub or learn how to jail break your printer to get full use of it owner ship is almost dead folks time to break up big printer so you can refill your ink cartridges and print without a subscription

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Countmacula 8 points 3 years ago

The printer business is tantamount to the gangster era. Fucking thieves.

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Buffalox 7 points 3 years ago

I just bought a Brother laser printer for my dad, because he needed help changing the ink cartridges, after having printed maybe 8 pages in ½ a year. It's just too stupid to use ink printers today, no matter if you print a little or a lot.

I'm guessing the laser cartridge will last my dad a decade. lol

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Speculater 3 points 3 years ago

And it uses dry toner, so it'll never clog because you didn't use it!

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Buffalox 2 points 3 years ago

Exactly. We've had our color laser for about 14 years, and it still runs on the original toner cartridges!

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skullgiver 2 points 3 years ago
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Buffalox 1 point 3 years ago

Good points on the ink jet. I'm not sure laser printers are really toxic. Yes 30-40 years ago there were problems with ozone for heavy printing environments, or if you sat right next to the printer. But AFAIK the ozone levels have been reduced, and for small printers it's not a problem. While ozone is toxic, it is also naturally occurring, and we can tolerate low levels of it.

Regarding chemicals in the toner, it was a problem way way back, because in high volume environments that shit sometimes would be all over the place. Because containers weren't tight enough. I don't recall seeing toner in or around laser printers for home office for the past 2 decades. I'm guessing production environments have improved similarly too, but I haven't been much in contact with those lately.

There are clear work environment regulations in most (western) countries, that date back to the early 80's and even earlier. As a minimum those regulations must be met. So yes there are actually health and safety laws around laser printers. And AFAIK they are completely safe unless you are doing something illegal or incredibly stupid.

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skullgiver 1 point 3 years ago
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cajova_houba 7 points 3 years ago

debit card on file had expired

How do you input your credit card into the printer? Or is this some printer-lease-contract situation?

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47_alpha_tango 7 points 3 years ago
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NENathaniel 7 points 3 years ago

Anyone find a source or proof on this having happened?

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EmperorHenry 63 points 3 years ago

It's a printer, and for fucks sake, BMW is locking you out of certain features of their cars if you don't pay per month.

Telsa cars will drive themselves out of your house if you miss a payment.

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Gork 6 points 3 years ago path: 0 1997178 1997418 2000830, hotness: undefined, score: 6, children: 4
WarmSoda 7 points 3 years ago

Ford’s patent document also mentioned playing annoying audio meant to bother drivers dodging payments.

The patent filing also clarified that late payments might result in a driver given partial access to their vehicle during the week so they can earn money for financing, Insider reports.

Sounds like they want to be in court a lot. There's no way any of that is safe.

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Gork 4 points 3 years ago

Oh yeah. How long until the vehicle repossesses itself when a child is in the car? The lawsuits would be massive.

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Tag365 2 points 3 years ago

Why are they getting patents for stuff like that? I thought patents were for mechanical inventions only, not new money schemes to stop others from doing the same so you're known for that scheme?

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Kushia 3 points 3 years ago

Ford’s patent application mentions the possibility of payment plans for financially struggling drivers and exceptions for when a person is hospitalized or out of the country.

This is some dystopian shit right here.

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Bell 30 points 3 years ago

Same thing happened to my mom's HP except that they sent her the wrong cartridges so she closed her account. They bricked her printer. I bought her a Brother.

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skullgiver 1 point 3 years ago
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build_a_bear_group 6 points 3 years ago

Tankie bullshit! Obviously competition will mean corporations will act benevolently.

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francisfordpoopola 6 points 3 years ago

It very likely is tied to the firmware that bricked HPs around the world in May or so. HP is silent on it and customer service isn't acknowledging the issue.

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Dark_Blade 6 points 3 years ago

…I’ve somehow lived this long without realizing that HP printers apparently need subscriptions to run now.

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June 4 points 3 years ago

Most don’t. There is a subscription service where you get ink every quarter automatically and you can’t skip shipments, but you have to choose that. Otherwise, most businesses have leased copy machines and printers for a long time now. Outsourcing maintenance can save money and simplify office administration.

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lemmy 4 points 3 years ago

My HP only works when I don't need it anymore. It's always doing shit when I want to orint something. It takes forever and then i just give up..

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Vuraniute 1 point 3 years ago

Same, I've just been using a really old HP Deskjet that has no external display, can't connect to the internet and only prints (doesn't scan)

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ThirdNerd 6 points 3 years ago
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aaron 5 points 3 years ago

Seems related

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Cornpop 5 points 3 years ago

Incredibly annoying. Especially with all these apps that want to charge you monthly. Fucking nuts thinking I'm gonna pay 30 a year for the rest of my life to look at radar.

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Adeptfuckup 4 points 3 years ago

Heh. Another symptom of the second gilded age we now find ourselves experiencing.

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lesnout27 4 points 3 years ago

Yesterday i got the standard setup steps from windows after booting. I use to skip them most of the time, because i don t want to use edge and so on and sometimes they reapear. Yesterday i thought, i'll do them now, then never again this will bother me. When i got to the point of logging into my microsoft account i could not remember the password and had no possibility on the gui to get back and skip all, leaving me seemingly unable to use my own frickin computer. As i got more and more angry i clicked on "forgot password" which sends me an email with a code. I see the email appear on my phone and without even a chance of entering the code it sent me back to the enter password prompt. Even more angry and cursing to myself i pressed the forgort password text again leaving me with the same result. As i was close to exploding, my computer somehow decided to show "You are finished!" like he knew i had enough.

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merc 4 points 3 years ago

*buy it

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MonkderZweite 3 points 3 years ago

All your worries with printers disappear the moment you replace them with a scanner.

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malloc 3 points 3 years ago

There’s a recent post on HN talking about this similar behavior with content platforms.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36974358 https://old.reddit.com/...

Basically users Apple account gets flagged for “fraudulent problems”. User loses access to all “bought”/rented content associated with Apple account. CS is useless. CS manager useless as well.

It’s a well documented story with any content platform. This is far from being an isolated issue.

Personally, piracy and ripping Blu-rays is back on the table for me and using a media server only accessible via VPN.

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Rolando 3 points 3 years ago

I was actually thinking of getting an Apple account and backing my files up to their cloud. Glad I read this before I made that mistake.

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malloc 2 points 3 years ago

apple used to be my go to but decided to deplatform from them. All of the iTunes music, videos, and tv shows I bought over the years have been pirated or ripped to my media server.

All personal files and media is backed up on my personal cloud/server with redundant backups to another server that I own.

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skullgiver 1 point 3 years ago
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kingthrillgore 2 points 3 years ago

This is the reason I went with Epson for printing for many years, and had no issues! But I don't print anymore.

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ReallyKinda 2 points 3 years ago

Just freecycled an almost new HP printer/scanner because of their ridiculous software locked cartridges that print like 20 pages total. I specified in the listing that the ink was expensive and that it would be best for someone who printed almost never and just wanted a scanner.

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Darx97 1 point 3 years ago

Mine has been collecting dust for a few years now, I stopped buying ink cartridges because I'd buy them and print just a few things once in awhile until that shit would just dry up even tho I didn't use it all so fuck them.

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dunning_cougar 1 point 3 years ago

Just go to Staples!

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jungekatz 0 points 3 years ago

Capitalism leads to innovation they say! This is an innovation in a way some may say !

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w7u2jf8ja -1 points 3 years ago

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Riyria -3 points 3 years ago

To be fair, this person could be using a business printer. Large multifunction printers offices use can cost $10k+ and require A LOT of work so small companies and firms that can’t outright afford the upkeep usually lease the printer and that lease comes with warranties and maintenance covered by the company its leased from.

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MetaCubed 5 points 3 years ago

HP has something called an "instant ink" subscription plan

If you sign up for the plan, you cannot use ink official hp ink which is purchased in a store, you must use the ink hp ship's you when you get low. If your payment is declined, the printer is disabled until you go through their hateful cancellation progress, or you fix your payment and let them ship you new cartridges.

This is 100% on a consumer printer.

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norbert 4 points 3 years ago

And here's someone making excuses for a billion dollar company based on nothing but imagination. HP isn't your friend, they're only driven to seek profit.

What's more likely, that there's a legitimate reason the printer needs a subscription or that the printer company is just trying to nickle and dime the end user again to squeeze every penny out of them without providing additional value?

BTW when one of our offices large multifunction printer has issues we call the vendor that maintains it, NOT the company that manufactured it.

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irmoz 3 points 3 years ago

Wendigoon is a youtuber, i don't think they need to print so much they'd requure an industrial sized printer

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JusnJusn 3 points 3 years ago

I doubt that Wendigoon is using a $10k+ business printer.

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Mdotaut801 -4 points 3 years ago
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