women? on the internet? looking at memes?
BuboScandiacus 12 points a year ago
Lemmy silver 🥈
JonHammCock 3 points a year ago
Creepy. I just watched this scene seconds ago after not watching the film for years...
Yes I was scrolling while watching, I'm sorry.
Cethin 4 points a year ago
Weird, I just watched this year's after not watching the film for years...
Its crazy how unlikely things happen frequently with enough participants.
Yes I was scrolling while sitting on the toilet, I'm sorry.
Hotzilla 12 points a year ago
Old saying in is: In Internet men are men, women are men and children are FBI officers.
Edit: 4chan rules of the Internet:
Rule 29: On the internet men are men, women are also men, and kids are undercover FBI agents.
CodingCarpenter 9 points a year ago
GIRL
guy in real life
Canonical_Warlock 13 points a year ago
Well, at least bi.
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SharkAttak 19 points a year ago
It's not necessarily a POV...
kittenzrulz123 14 points a year ago
Yup, we are now gay :3
StarlightDust 4 points a year ago
Join us!
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buddascrayon -5 points a year ago
No you don't understand. Women don't matter.
MDCCCLV 79 points a year ago
No, social behavior has always been a party of biology. Even after you reproduce how you care for your young and your extended family has a huge impact on the species. Herd animals or anything that flocks can't function solo. If all the adults just left after they reproduced the species wouldn't survive. Reproduction is key for the individual, but it's never that simple. The version you're told in school is always a highly simplified version of the truth.
socsa 26 points a year ago
Honestly the entire idea that the only purpose of humanity is to make the next generation or support that process in some way just feels gross in a very eugenics adjacent way. If you start with that premise, it's just too easy to conclude that anyone who isn't working towards that end is disposable.
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superkret 3 points a year ago
No, it's not purpose. It's just a process that perpetuates itself.
It's how you make the next generation, but if that generation doesn't have a purpose, then neither does yours, nor the act of reproduction.
IzzyJ 6 points a year ago
Yes, but also it's more complicated than that. Most species die off before being grandparents, and certianly they don't participate in the rearing of grandchildren. We specifically live long enough and have emotional connection to keep being part of a family structure past that point. It helps retain and pass on knowledge that proved valuable for us. Likewise, younger siblings are more likely to be homosexual, and it's hypothesized this was to build redundancy into family structures. If both parents die off in a hunting accident, you have a gay aunt/uncle who can step in; much better than being an orphan.
Yes reproduction is the GOAL as far as evolution is concerened, but contributing does not require direct participation.
LePoisson 1 point a year ago
Is it though? Because evolution is only really concerned with a thing living long enough to reproduce. It's not planned like eugenics would be.
That's why there's tons of examples of dumb as hell stuff in biology because as long as an organism is "good enough" to keep reproducing and spreading their genes that is fine and that species will continue to evolve.
Eugenics would be more like if evolution somehow could select only for specific traits and then made sure to only let things with those traits reproduce. Evolution is much messier than that.
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Snowclone 11 points a year ago
We did evolve grandmother's. That was an evolutionary pressure response. Deep knowledge and long growth have lead us through doors of perception far beyond the reach of all life we have yet precieved.
RustyShackleford 4 points a year ago
We did evolve grandmother's.
Grandmother's what? What's implied by the "'s" after "grandmother"?
Jtotheb 4 points a year ago
Tangential nitpick—the phrase “evolutionary pressure response” evokes the idea that there is an intelligent or benevolent purpose behind the process. When a beneficial trait randomly occurs and gets passed on, that is a release from evolutionary pressure, not a response to it.
EvilCartyen -1 points a year ago
Having kids can be extremely fulfilling, doesn't increase human suffering at all. Having kids subjectively improved my life and the lives of many people adjacent to me, e.g. the lives of my family members and friends and my kids' friends.
I don't understand how the Internet is so anti kids, it's pretty baffling.
Emerald 24 points a year ago
You say it's improved your life and the lives of those adjacent to you, your family members, friends, and your kids' friends. But you haven't said its improved your kids life. I think that's what the OP was talking about. A being who doesn't exist doesn't desire to exist so making new life isn't doing them a favor and only exposes them to harm.
wizardbeard -7 points a year ago
Don't project your own depression onto others, and non-existent beings.
If you think existence "only exposes [living things] to harm" and nothing else, nothing even potentially good?
If you truly believe that, I've got no nice way to say this: You need therapy.
blarghly 11 points a year ago
I don’t understand how the Internet is so anti kids, it’s pretty baffling.
Because people who are chronically online are chronically online because they had shitty childhoods which gave them chronic depression. Thus they associate the creation of children with the creation of suffering.
Source: me
Squorlple 8 points a year ago
Virtually every sentient life experiences a non-zero amount of suffering. Progeny that doesn’t exist categorically doesn’t suffer; progeny that does exist is virtually certain to suffer to some degree. The hedonist argument that progeny may get to experience some joy falls apart because progeny that doesn’t exist categorically doesn’t experience any lack of joy (i.e. that would-be joy is not mourned by that which does not exist).
Ensuring the certainty of the sum total of suffering in another person’s life just for one’s own self-fulfillment is incredibly selfish. Procreation is a cycle of blithe selfishness that perpetuates universal suffering and is at best wrought by apathy for others’ suffering and at worst wrought by enthusiasm for others’ suffering.
I’m anti-kid because I didn’t consent to the sentience that I have experienced and I have the empathy to want others not to suffer.
Vox_Ursus 1 point a year ago
Sure, life is imperfect, but is that really a reason to espouse something as radical as nonexistence? I find that the imperfection and thereby dualism of existence is part of what makes it beautiful; we get to experience both the good and the bad, pleasure and pain.
I guess in some sense what I understand you're saying is that to you, being thrust into the pain inherent of becoming and being alive, is the consequence of a bad moral or ethical (selfish) action and therefore wrong even if the children are able to adapt, because there is always more potential suffering throughout the course of a life. I get that, I think most of us would love to be in situations where we could have no-suffering-guarantees for our children.
Maybe the point of friction is that it seems to me like you believe that there should be no suffering at all for it to be ethically permissible to have children (lest it be selfish) while many of us believe that the "base level" of suffering inherent to life (eg. death of parents, the setbacks of infancy, social interaction, etc.) is permissible, and it then falls on us as parents to make sure that there is no or as little additional or unnecessary suffering as possible by means of safe environment, education and tools to cope and overcome so that what could potentially be suffering doesn't become so. When it comes to that I believe it to be more reasonable to discuss who ought and who oughtn't be a parent than whether it's ethical or not to have kids.
EvilCartyen -5 points a year ago
I’m anti-kid because I didn’t consent to the sentience that I have experienced and I have the empathy to want others not to suffer.
Maybe you should find the empathy to see that your experience is not everyone's experience, then?
Lyra_Lycan 3 points a year ago
Human suffering is caused in part by overpopulation (as is the suffering of all creatures - we are invasive, destructive and afflicted with a superiority complex) and in part by religious indoctrination, so while you procreate, as long as you don't force offspring into a single and restrictive belief system, I suppose it's okay, and all the best to you.
trolololol 1 point a year ago
Come on, it's worth it but it certainly brings a lot of suffering that wouldn't exist otherwise. Telling my teenager that he needs to shower 5x, every day that he does sports, is suffering for both me and him.
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wizardbeard 11 points a year ago
As another comment identified, that's itshannahowo. You can find images including her vagina at your own leisure.
WarpScanner 40 points a year ago
Some philosophers agree with biologists on this one.
RQG 39 points a year ago
At uni the biologist parties were always the ones with the most sex. So that checks out.
The least sex was electrical or mechanical engineering. Just the couple of ay dudes had some fun.
Weirdest sex was for sure psychology student parties.
peoplebeproblems 14 points a year ago
And there was me, who entrapped himself in a terrible relationship and had neither sex nor fun
pineapplelover 9 points a year ago
Comp sci?
StarlightDust 5 points a year ago
I used to live with a biology student who would constantly have house parties. Those parties weren't the most sex-filled ones I've ever been to but they absolutely attracted the wealthiest party goers.
PerogiBoi 4 points a year ago
Agreed. I was at a party and I got blackout drunk and regained my awareness as I was sitting on a log barfing. To my right is a psychology student holding my shoulders and stroking my hair. She then walks me home, invites herself in, empties the entire contents of her purse in my shared living room, then takes me back to my room and rides me for an undisclosed amount of time.
Psychology student sex was weird that one time.
And don’t even get me started on civil engineers…
MyDarkestTimeline01 30 points a year ago
Well, now I should take this meme down. You've given me a counterpoint so complete I have no retort. I will now go grab my towel.
Philharmonic3 8 points a year ago
If you suck on the end it's lemon flavored.
Iheartcheese 5 points a year ago
That's what she said
pewgar_seemsimandroid 2 points a year ago
Universal Sereal Bus
GratefullyGodless 5 points a year ago
The meaning of life is when catholics do a song and dance number about how every sperm is sacred.
whiskeytango 6 points a year ago
It's not meaning. It's just a mechanism. It's the canvas to what we do and ascribe meaning to.
Then again, our "meaning" might simply be a mechanism to another system
grrgyle 4 points a year ago
Help, I made conscious life material in nature!
So I was setting up my constants but wasn't paused so I added energy andand the universe exploded??? in this huge biiigi bang and it won't stop! Pls help, it's my first universe, it's already like 15 billion years old and I can't figure out how to fix the "material minds" they're crazy! It's so depressing.
VubDapple 34 points a year ago
Pynchon from Gravity's Rainbow:
"Don't forget the real business of the War is buying and selling. The murdering and violence are self-policing, and can be entrusted to non-professionals. The mass nature of wartime death is useful in many ways. It serves as a spectacle, as a diversion from the real movements of the War. It provides raw material to be recorded into History, so that children may be taught History as sequences of violence, battle after battle, and be more prepared for the adult world. Best of all, mass death's a stimulus to just ordinary folks, little fellows, to try 'n' grab a piece of that Pie while they're still here to gobble it up. The true war is a celebration of markets. Organic markets, carefully styled "black" by the professionals, spring up everywhere. Scrip, Sterling, Reichsmarks, continue to move, severe as classical ballet, inside their antiseptic marble chambers. But out here, down here among the people, the truer currencies come into being. So, Jews are negotiable. Every bit as negotiable as cigarettes, cunt, or Hersey bars."
orange_squeezer 8 points a year ago
It wasn't until I got to the cigarettes and cunts as currency that I realized this was not a particularly hardcore monologue from Gravity Falls, a popular show I had not watched, but Gravity's Rainbow. Great excerpt though.
VubDapple 8 points a year ago
It's one of the more difficult books to get through frankly but it is rewarding. The thing to appreciate when attempting it is that mid-30s Pynchon was inventing his own English grammar. Some sentences are a full page long and it will challenge your memory. So the best approach I think is to just let it wash over you. After a while your mind adapts. You'll miss a ton the first time through and that is OK. I think I had to start it three times before I eventually got through it and I was younger then. I have reread it a few times since, once with a companion book that annotated each chapter and offered commentary on the book's structure which is actually impressively plotted. But don't let it intimidate. Just let it wash over you and enjoy the funny parts. There are a lot of funny parts. The audiobook route sounds less fatiguing. Fickt nicht mit dem Raketemensch!
prole 1 point a year ago
The thing to appreciate when attempting it is that mid-30s Pynchon was inventing his own English grammar. Some sentences are a full page long and it will challenge your memory.
He always seemed like a more modern take on James Joyce or something (coming from someone who's never read Pynchon)
VubDapple 2 points a year ago
They're similarly complex for sure. Even encyclopedic.
VubDapple 1 point a year ago
Its been years so I dont specifically recall. My guess is that it is the voice of a sort of omniscient narrator. It does seem to be a stand-in for Pynchon's perspective to some extent. It's such an exuberant novel. There is definitely a sense I recall that this (at the time) young man was stretching to the limit of his prodigious ability and wanted to show that ability off.
refurbishedrefurbisher 32 points a year ago
The meaning of life is very simple: life has no meaning unless you create meaning. What that meaning is is going to differ from person to person.
The meaning I give to my life is to do everything I can to further human knowledge and to learn as much as possible myself.
For other people, it could be exploring the world, finding inner peace, helping as many people as possible, gaining power/money by any means necessary, etc.
All valid, some more well-intentioned than others. IMO if your goal is to do good by yourself and/or to others without actively seeking to hurt others, there isn't really a wrong answer.
MyDarkestTimeline01 9 points a year ago
This was just meant to be something funny to make people chuckle and then continue on with their day. I find my meaning in being an existential jester. To laugh at everything. May I be from joy or mockery or grim determination. So much so that I've told my wife that if she feels the need to give me a memorial plaque after my death it can only have one of two quotes on it. The first is attributed to Shakespeare's Marc Anthony: "Have I played the part well? Then applaud, as I exit." Or from Darkest Dungeon: "He will be laughing still, in the end."
grrgyle 2 points a year ago
I too revel in the absurdism that results from a mind evolved to fuck and throw big rocks trying to understand anything beyond the five little sense peepholes it's looking through. Hello out there, fellow pervert! I wonder what the outside looks like through your peepholes!
When I'm not looking out, I build logical graphs in my head that represent social concepts and how I fit into the world, especially along the 1 time dimension, and sometimes the graphs make me happy or sad, usually because of how well rested or caffeinated I am.
I hope your mind graphs are happy today (or whatever abstraction applies to your thought process).
grrgyle 3 points a year ago
A hundred percent. I used to just call myself a nihilist, because on paper it applies. But straight up self described nihilists are stuck in a dead end.
I prefer to use nihilism as a reminder that there are no ultimate loci of meaning and that anything I insist on having meaning needs to be justified.
Lol this thread. You can't just mention the meaning of life on social media without us armchair philosophers crawling out of the woodwork and uhm ackshually-ing all over the place.
Guns0rWeD13 4 points a year ago
yes. agreed. also, ugh. i'll guarantee you whoever downvoted your post is some fucking theist.
but yes. 100% agreed. and once people realize this, it comes with the understanding that there is no objectively true answer. to each their own.
BUT, here's where we get into the freewill part of giving individual meaning to life - if you decide that your meaning is to extract your own pleasure at the misfortune of others, then i am going to decide to end your life. AND... when enough people join together to stop those that would create suffering for others, that's when humanity is on its way to my version of a glorious moral union. a moral union not based on some book of ancient goat herders but on a democratic agreement about what we want the world to be like.
refurbishedrefurbisher 3 points a year ago
yes. agreed. also, ugh. i'll guarantee you whoever downvoted your post is some fucking theist.
Nah, just a pretentious person who's calling other people pretentious because they don't like who they are as a person and they take it out on others who do. No need to feed the troll.
The last point is just the paradox of tolerance. I don't tolerate intolerance, although I am also a strictly non-violent person except for self defense. What does work is public pressure/shame, and imprisonment in the case that they commit crimes.
refurbishedrefurbisher 4 points a year ago
The Nazis were buried underground since the end of WWII until Gamergate due to the fact that being a Nazi was viewed as unacceptable in society.
gcheliotis 3 points a year ago
Exactly. If there is a reason for our conscious existence, it is to observe and imbue with meaning. Otherwise the world just is.
whiskeytango -6 points a year ago
You're what an internet turtle philosopher describe as "the pretentious dude at a party who thinks he's got everything figured out. Really now? You figured out the meaning of life and you're certain of it?"
Okay, then why do you care about human knowledge and want to learn as much as possible? What about the application of that knowledge?
Do you care about knowledge or wisdom?
To what end do you apply that knowledge?
To what ends will you acquire that knowledge?
Kusimulkku 21 points a year ago
So who is that on the right
woefully_cylindrical_tablespoon 26 points a year ago
Seconding, source (NSFW) is an onlyfans post on 2022-05-24 titled wish it was u? ;D
ChicoSuave 17 points a year ago
Ok, so who's that on the left?
MyDarkestTimeline01 8 points a year ago
No clue. Saved it to my meme folder back when I was on Reddit and decided to put it up here to keep the community going.
FelixCress 1 point a year ago
Someone about to be strangled by a ghost's hand.
the_grass_trainer 0 points a year ago
Somewhere in your area is a doorway. Please walk through that, and do not return. Thank you.
Scott_of_the_Arctic 19 points a year ago
Am a biologist, can confirm.
curiousaur 15 points a year ago
I'm a philosopher. I can confirm the biologist seems right
Scott_of_the_Arctic 6 points a year ago
Procreo, ergo sum
Scott_of_the_Arctic 3 points a year ago
Ita, fili mi.
thelefthandpath 1 point a year ago
A biologist who ignores asexually reproducing organisms, clearly.
Scott_of_the_Arctic 1 point a year ago
Humans have tried reproducing asexually. It's called wanking. It doesn't work.
thelefthandpath 1 point a year ago
I guess I was interpreting the meaning of life as life in general and not life for humans
Scott_of_the_Arctic 1 point a year ago
Sponges and mushrooms don't tend to ponder such questions.
very_well_lost 9 points a year ago
The meaning of life is to live.
JohnDClay 1 point a year ago
Absolutely, that'd lead you to as many partners as possible while discouraging birth control. Plus tangentially it'd incentive trying to reduce the number of children other people have to increase your share of the gene pool. (Which I think is one of the paths you were getting at with eugenics)
JohnDClay 3 points a year ago
How would you prioritize what to experience? By novelty? Or would you be happy to watch every movie ever made?
I mention those because it's a common trope in fiction for curiosity of experiences to lead down disturbing paths. Slanesh in 40k comes to mind.
Nay 2 points a year ago
It's all up to the individual. Whatever makes your motor run. But I'd universally suggest traveling to other countries to experience different cultures first hand. Other than that... Just interact with and experience as many new things as you've got the bandwidth for.
MyDarkestTimeline01 2 points a year ago
Someone's channeling their inner Caligula......
Hossenfeffer 6 points a year ago
What, cannibalism?
bathing_in_bismuth 0 points a year ago
We all eat each other in some ways
spicehoarder 1 point a year ago
Funny enough, without life, your statement has no meaning.
grrgyle 6 points a year ago
Except we have the foresight to know everything will end. Even if we were to produce 100 000 000 perfect replicas of our genes they would still hit the same wall— extinction. Further, whether we have free will or not (prolly not), we're able to coopt the gene platforms to further non-procreative aims.
It's a bit like saying the point of a TV show is to earn profit for the people who bankrolled it. Well, yes that's why it's here and literally the only thing that will keep it going, but you can do a lot more within those constraints than play out the material reality.
So the question remains.
exasperation 13 points a year ago
Even if we were to produce 100 000 000 perfect replicas of our genes they would still hit the same wall— extinction.
Doesn't matter, had sex.
LovableSidekick 5 points a year ago
I think almost everybody who isn't a philosopher is with the biologists.
finitebanjo 4 points a year ago
Oh lol that one on the left is the meme where xianxia fighters explain their move in the middle of battle.
bananabenana 10 points a year ago
Lol what are you on about. There is an entire body of active philosophical work about the meaning of life: https://scholar.google.com.au/scholar?as_ylo=2024&q=meaning+of+life+philosophy&hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5
steeznson 1 point a year ago
My impression of it being like that is largely due to the split between analytic and continental philosophy. Anglophone universities tend to focus on the former and then the latter has a larger body of work from mainland Europe; the many French existentialist philosophers would be a good example.
Naz 9 points a year ago
That's what makes philosophy interesting.
I am on my seventh Ship of Thesus, my D: contains /DOSGAMES/ and has a "folder created date" of August 1996.
As far as I'm concerned, it's the same ship because I can load up my original SAVEGAMES, they still work, and they can kiss my ass. My ship has gone through the swamp man paradox and emerged the same on the other side. :>
Bahnd 2 points a year ago
Well the sciences keeps taking all those peksy answerable questions, and religion stole half the remaining ones and is half way across town by now.
Philosophy is just left holding the bag of all the quibbly things noone is interested in or dont have answers on purpous.
steeznson 1 point a year ago
Philosophy of science was big when I was still studying it. Stuff like whether the Linean System of classifying species were still fit for purpose or the gaps in our knowledge that modern physics leave.
coherent_domain 3 points a year ago
Sorry, blah blah research purpose.
spicehoarder 6 points a year ago
Sex shouldn't be that exhausting, you should probably consult a doctor.
RustyShackleford 1 point a year ago path: 0 16984322 16985734, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 1
jerkface 1 point a year ago
the last time i got a landline rather than pay to get it unlisted I asked to have it listed under R. Shackleford. however there was a miscommunication and my listing was entered as R. Shacklesord. i was annoyed at first but when I started receiving unsolicited mail to R. Shacklesord (that i knew to immediately throw away) i thought it was pretty cool. when i got a call for Mr. Shacklesord i always knew i could fuck with whoever was on the other end of the phone. looking back on it im tempted to start using fake names everywhere all the time. they only get used against you.
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