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hohoho 54 points a year ago

inseparable

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unknown 17 points a year ago

I think the misspelling fits the character

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hohoho 11 points a year ago

I agree. They shudda spelled it insep’rable

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acockworkorange 4 points a year ago

Spelt*

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hungryphrog 4 points a year ago

Barley**

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Tattorack 46 points a year ago

Is this a dig at pitbulls?

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qyron 14 points a year ago

One the oldest around.

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chuckleslord 13 points a year ago

Yes, it is and people are assholes.

Yes, pit bull bites are more dangerous. No, that doesn't mean they should all be euthanized. They need proper training and that's it.

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someguy3 62 points a year ago

You're missing the blindingly obvious solution that should be taken: spay and neuter them so that no new ones are bred.

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Omnipitaph -14 points a year ago

Or, ya know, people could be responsible pet owners.

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someguy3 34 points a year ago

No amount of responsibility can overcome what 200 years of artificial selection at a rate of every 2 years.

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Signtist 26 points a year ago

If we could rely on every member of any sizable group of people to all reach even the lowest bar of decency, the world would be a very different place. Any solution that relies on the idea of "if everyone just does x" is not a real solution, as much as I'd like it to be.

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doingthestuff -35 points a year ago
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silasmariner 25 points a year ago

Hol' up, there's some sort of incongruity here that I can't quite put my finger on...

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explodicle 2 points a year ago

You should be embarrassed to support eugenics.

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Tattorack -1 points a year ago

The irony of the down votes you're getting. XD

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Flax_vert -2 points a year ago

Nah, we should give police orders to shoot every pitbull on sight.

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Tattorack 32 points a year ago

Unfortunately there is a feedback loop somewhere.

Pitbulls have a reputation for being dangerous tough guy dogs, so "tough guys" get pitbulls and proceed to not treat them well, this give pitbulls the reputation of being dangerous tough guy dogs.

I live in Copenhagen, however, and I've seen some very nicely treated pitbulls, even one that was part of a family. They can be so gentle.

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HugeNerd 3 points a year ago

So can guns.

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MehBlah 21 points a year ago

Guns don't get old and have a bad day killing their owner. Pitbulls do unfortunately. I've seen good ones and bad ones but when they are hurting or just grumpy old farts they can go off. The difference between a shitzu and and pitbull doing that is the pitbull is powerful and the shitzu is annoying.

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Tattorack 2 points a year ago

Guns are weapons. Not lifeforms.

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frank 2 points a year ago

Hej fra København og jeg tror du har ret

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Honytawk 1 point a year ago

Now hypothetically, if every breed except Chihuahuas was banned, and those tough guys were forced to buy those and not train them.

Do you think there would be more, less or equal amount of dog mauling?

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Tattorack 2 points a year ago

Less. Chihuahuas can be aggressive, bitey little shits without proper training. Most people I've seen with Chihuahuas don't train them. It's just a small little dog, what harm can it do?

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Flax_vert 0 points a year ago

It doesn't matter about the mauling. What is more likely to kill you? A pitbull or a Chihuahua. If a Chihuahua tried to maul an average healthy adult, the healthy adult could probably fight it off quite quickly with minimal small bite injuries. You can't say the same about a pitbull.

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reddifuge -1 points a year ago

That's exactly how everyone talks about their pitbull until it rips their child to pieces.

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Alaknar 15 points a year ago

They need proper training and that’s it.

https://eu.jacksonville.com/...

Tuesday that 30-year-old (...) was found dead Monday night at a home near Newington from an apparent dog attack. (...) He says an autopsy revealed Wilcox died as a result of injuries received from the attack.

Investigators say Wilcox was familiar with the pets at that residence and had handled them safely on numerous occasions in the past. None of the dogs in the home had any known history of viciousness or aggression

Pitbulls are a breed designed to kill.

You can have a Border Collie and it will be shepherding sheep on a screen, or dust motes on the floor, because it's in their DNA.

Killing and aggression are in the DNA of Pitbulls.

Stop being weird.

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Omega_Jimes 3 points a year ago

This is it, full stop. Dogs are individuals and should be treated as such.

I helped raise and home two litters of Staffordshire pups, we kept a rigorous list of the owners that we interviewed and checked the homes once a year to monitor the dogs progression. We made the owners sign a contract stating that if the living standards weren't up to snuff, we could reclaim the dogs. I worked with a fellow who raised Staffies for 30 years. In two litters, we had around a dozen well trained, friendly huggable porkchops. Two litters that had no recorded bites past a few months old (puppys nibble but can be trained), and showed no aggression with other animals. All those pups lived to old age, and passed in happy homes. I've also met too many pitbulls that were beyond any help i had to offer. Damaged dogs damaged by poor parenting.

I know my story is anecdotal, and i don't expect to change minds here, but i cant stand the outrage against such lovable dorks when something like the chihuahua exists.

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crapwittyname 4 points a year ago

Dogs are animals, and no amount of training can make it certain they will not attack, because, as you say, they are individuals. Therefore a well-trained Pitbull remains more dangerous than a well-trained [insert literally any other dog breed here].
I absolutely love dogs, including Pitbulls. I despair at what humans have done with selective breeding, by giving Pugs a lifetime of health problems, Pitbulls a greater chance of being euthanised, greyhounds a brain the size of a pea etc., etc. The right thing to do is to vote with our feet and stop the demand for breeds that shouldn't exist. The real villains here are the people creating pure bred pits for profit.

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Honytawk 3 points a year ago

And the people who pay those breeders for these types of dogs are part of the problem.

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Flax_vert 1 point a year ago

Dogs aren't individuals. They're animals. You don't need a pitbull. There are plenty of other beautiful breeds like Retrievers/Laboradors or Border collies, etc.

With pitbulls you have to train them specifically not to fight to lower the chances. They shouldn't be available to own to the general public.

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Tattorack 4 points a year ago

Humans are also animals. Part of the animalia kingdom, like everything else of flesh and bone.

Animals may not be sapient (being capable of human level generalist brain processing), but they're absolutely individuals with individual personalities.

You'd know this of you've lived with a few cats, or dogs, or worked on an animal farm for any length of time.

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Flax_vert -3 points a year ago

They should all be euthanised. There's no good reason to own a pitbull. They were literally bred for fighting and it's in their instincts.

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Tattorack 6 points a year ago

Should I go down the list of all the dogs that were specifically bred for being hunting dogs, war dogs, or guard dogs?

That list is absolutely going to be massive and I'm pretty sure it'll feature a number of dogs you'd otherwise consider lovable family dogs.

We're probably going to be left with a handful of breeds meant for puffed up rich floozies that suffer from amalgamated sinus cavities.

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silasmariner 6 points a year ago

Yes

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Tattorack 1 point a year ago

Sad.

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morphballganon -3 points a year ago

If you know what breed it's talking about, that suggests there's probably some truth to it

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chatokun 15 points a year ago

That's not a valid argument, since it can be used elsewhere. Using that argument would confirm any racist or sexist stereotype as well, since you know what they mean. Just because someone has heard let's see, that Jewish people are lizard aliens who drink blood and adrenochrome from babies doesn't mean there's some truth to it.

I'm not using the above as an argument against pit bulls having aggressive natures; I mostly stay out of that argument (though the one pit I remember was a lovely pup). I am saying that as an argument backing up the aggressive claim, it's a bad one to use.

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Flax_vert -3 points a year ago

Why are you comparing Jewish people to dogs????? That's a bit antisemetic

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morphballganon -12 points a year ago

Stereotypes about groups of humans are politically motivated. Not true of dog breeds.

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chatokun 6 points a year ago

You might want to adjust your thoughts on the second. Studies have shown that pit bulls are associated with black people, and that people who have unfavorable views of black people, especially as being violent, also have a correlation to negative views of pit bulls. You can find one such study here: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11213322/

Question: “If you had to guess, do you think Black people or white people are more likely to own the following dogs?” Source: Pooled Lucid Surveys, June-July 2020, August 2021.

Not everyone dislikes based on racial association, but to claim there is none only illustrates that your argument is both invalid and uninformed.

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jj4211 4 points a year ago

Question is to what extent it is the breed versus the owners drawn to or scared away from the breed. These things can be self fulfilling.

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hakunawazo 40 points a year ago

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noredcandy 39 points a year ago

This is basically the plot to Alien Earth.

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SaharaMaleikuhm 25 points a year ago

Say no more. By that I mean no spoilers.

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porksnort 15 points a year ago

Chill, you’ve seen it already. That is the plot to every installment in the Alien franchise.

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MajorMajormajormajor 18 points a year ago

Did you finish the season?

Spoilers below

alien earth spoiler

It felt more like a synthetic vs human drama, with aliens as side characters, than any other film in the franchise. Wendy being able to communicate with the aliens was very different also.

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DragonTypeWyvern 5 points a year ago

Ugh, I don't like that, and I'm all about synth stories.

If the synthetics don't either start working their way up to purging the meat bags using their own two grasping claws or creating a synth utopia away from their nonsense what's the point?

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__nobodynowhere 35 points a year ago

I do not want to downplay how serious an attack from other dog breeds can be, but pit bulls are a breed that was bred for fighting. By that I mean physically the dog was "engineered" for the task. Even if dog attacks occurred across all breeds at the exact same rate, the pit bull will still be more dangerous on average.

This is also ignoring the cultural aspect of it all. Pit bulls have had a long history of attracting some of the worst owners whether they deliberately raise the dog for fighting or are simply negligent, the outcome is increased danger and not just for yourself or your family.

You want to put yourself and your family in danger? Great. Have at it. But expecting me to be put at an increased risk of danger? No. Fuck off.

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ChairmanMeow 14 points a year ago

The cultural aspect is 90% of it. If you look at the statistics over longer periods of time (eg several decades), you can tell when a specific dog breed becomes the "fashion choice" for irresponsible owners. Those dog breeds suddenly become "more dangerous" than other breeds.

Great Danes, Labradors, many breeds were considered the most dangerous in the past before Pitbulls were. In some countries you also get different "most dangerous" dog breeds than other countries.

And there's quite a bit of research suggesting that although some bites are obviously more physically dangerous than others (a Chihuahua doesn't cause injuries as severe as a Pitbull could cause), the dog's aggressiveness or personality is actually not that genetically predetermined. Sure, there's a bit that is, but it's nowhere near enough to explain the dog bite statistics with purely the dog breed as the cause.

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SippyCup 0 points a year ago

The data do not support this comment.

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ChairmanMeow 0 points a year ago

It does. See https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9679229/

We compared behavioural tendencies between 8 breeds that are subject to legislation in at least one country and 17 breeds that are not subject to legislation using two validated psychometric tools: the Dog Impulsivity Assessment Scale (DIAS), which scores elements of impulsivity, including a tendency for aggressive behaviour, and Positive and Negative Activation Scale (PANAS), which scores sensitivity to positive and negative stimuli (which may trigger aggressive responses). We found that the two groups of breeds do not differ significantly in the specific DIAS factor relating to aggressive behaviour, “Aggression Threshold and Response to Novelty”, or any other DIAS and PANAS factors. We found large variations in all behavioural tendencies measured by both psychometric scales within both groups and within each breed studied. Taken together, our findings indicate that breed alone is not a reliable predictor of individual behavioural tendencies, including those related to aggression, and therefore breed‐specific legislation is unlikely to be an effective instrument for reducing risk.

Accordingly, a recent genomic study showed that although most canine behavioural traits have relatively high heritability (h2 > 0.25), breed explained only 9% of behavioural variation among individuals (Morrill et al., 2022).

Breed‐specific legislation has been heavily criticised for its poor scientific basis (Mills & Levine, 2006; Ott et al., 2008) and lack of demonstrable effectiveness, e.g. hospital admissions for dog bite incidents have continued to rise since legislation was introduced (Creedon & Ó'Súilleabháin, 2017).

For example, Creedon and Ó'Súilleabháin (2017) found no significant differences between legislated and non‐legislated groups of breeds with regard to either the type of bite inflicted or whether medical intervention was required, indicating no difference in the nature of bites received from the two classes of dog. Other studies have found that behavioural responses of dogs from legislated breeds during a temperament test were classified as appropriate in 95% of individuals tested (Schalke et al., 2008) and did not differ significantly from the behavioural responses of Golden Retrievers (Ott et al., 2008), who are widely considered good family pets.

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givesomefucks 6 points a year ago

Pitbulls were "bred to fight" animals, not humans...

Lots of other breeds were bred specifically to attack humans...

Despite all the other issues with your logic, why wouldnt you focus on guard dogs that are explicitly bred and trained to attack and cause serious harm to humans?

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__nobodynowhere 5 points a year ago

Pitbulls were "bred to fight" animals, not humans...

Muscle is muscle. Physics of the dog doesn't change due to the intent of the breeder. Pugs weren't explicitly bred to be a physical trainwreck and yet they are and denying that because the breeder was not actively selecting for those traits would be an insane argument. The physics of attacking an "animal" is not very different than the physics of attacking a human (who is actually a very weak and fragile animal)

Despite all the other issues with your logic

Pointless loaded sentence that offers nothing to the conversation

why wouldnt you focus on guard dogs that are explicitly bred and trained to attack

A) That wasn't the topic at hand

B) I never stated that pit bulls are the only problematic breeds. It was the very first sentence in my comment. You couldn't even read that far?

C) There aren't nearly as many noisy defenders of those breeds. Squeaky wheel gets the grease. It's a topic of discussion because defenders make it a topic of discussion.

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Crashumbc 1 point a year ago

When you say "pitbull" which of the 12 breeds are you discussing? What about mutts? An insane amount of "pitbulls" are actually mutts, many with little to no actual pitbull in them

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HeyThisIsntTheYMCA 1 point a year ago

Inre pugs, at no point did design enter into the equation

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Raiderkev 2 points a year ago

A family friend had a rescued one, and after they had a kid, it attacked the kid, damn near killed him. He had the dog put down and then...

Rescued another pitbull.

Pitbull owners are a special breed indeed.

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I_Has_A_Hat 19 points a year ago

But my smooth carapace hippo would NEVER harm anyone! Just look at it's happy little smiles!

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LiarAmongAll 2 points a year ago

My sweet dumb, absolute cabbage of a hippo would harm someone unfortunately, he's an idiot and that's how he meets people, aggressively cause he grew up a stray. So he doesn't meet new people, he has a happy home with love and treats, and I'm way fuckin stronger and meaner if I need to be should it come to an actual attack on me.

I'm not gonna let dogs suffer in shelters if I have space in my home and the ability to keep all people safe. He didn't choose to be born how he is, have the life he did, and I'm not gonna fault him for a rough start to life. I'm gonna give him a calm and happy one. We did this to dogs, to just shoo the problem away and let them all die is horrendous. Sure we can stop breeding that specific breed, and I'm all for it, but that isn't happening, and the dogs still exist, so I'll keep giving them the love they deserve. I'll be the bandaid til society gets it shit together and does something about it.

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HugeNerd 2 points a year ago

Did it force you to put that apostrophe into that possessive pronoun that's already possessive and therefore doesn't need an apostrophe just like his, hers, theirs, and ours?

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yermaw 6 points a year ago

Probably. I used mobile and rely on autocorrect for my fat fat thumbs. It just does what it wants.

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explodicle 8 points a year ago

Wrong alt account

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RedditRefugee69 -2 points a year ago

My car does what it wants until I use the steering wheel or pedals. That's how machines work.

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leburb 16 points a year ago

Do you believe in evolution by natural selection? Of course I do! Do you believe in evolution by unnatural selection? No! Traits that relate to violence vary strictly as a result of upbringing!

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Kolanaki 8 points a year ago

I kinda feel like the xenomorphs could be not domesticated but maybe appeased for lack of a better word. They don't like being held captive, and they are vindictive as shown by Resurrection. But it also showed them to be intelligent. If you gave them things to eat/implant with eggs enough to satiate them, perhaps they would think of you as a pet and leave you alone.

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ArcaneSlime 4 points a year ago

Ehhh they're an invasive species with a parasitic larval stage, we're fucked. The more we appease the more their numbers grow and the less likely we are to be able to satiate them, much less them and any sizable human population (though there wouldn't be a sizable human population very long).

"One" question (ok one multi-part question), does anyone have data on the life cycle? How long until eggs hatch, how long in larval stage, how long until the little guy that bursts out becomes an H. R. Geiger penis monster, how many eggs can those penis monsters lay per day, and how many calories do they need for their daily intake?

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Eheran 6 points a year ago

HEEL!

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Rachelhazideas 5 points a year ago

Yes, there are shitty pit bull owners out there.

No, not all pit bulls are aggressive, only non-neutered, poorly trained, or abused ones.

Yes, it's weird how the comic uses an overweight woman to characterize bad dog owners but not the victims.

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Alaknar 5 points a year ago

Yes, it’s weird how the comic uses an overweight woman to characterize bad dog owners

It also characterises "regular-weight men" as bad dog owners (second panel).

but not the victims

Yeah, let's stop with the "skinny-girl victim" propaganda! Plus size women can be victims too!

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Rachelhazideas 5 points a year ago

I think the second panel is meant to be the same woman given that their top is the same, the hair is the same length, albeit a darker shade, and in the third panel she is pointing towards the second panel.

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Alaknar 1 point a year ago

I won't argue about the second panel, even though it wouldn't make sense story-wise for it to be the same character there, but in the third panel she's very definitely pointing towards the fourth panel, not the second.

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BilSabab 3 points a year ago

This reminded me of the glorious days of Dark Horse Alien series. Back in the day they did a series called Music of the Spears in which some shady tech bro captured one of the eggs (with NINJAS no less) and tried to keep a xenomorph as his musical buddy to write SYMPHONY OF HATE. It didn't go well and we got the glorious sequence of xenomorph crashing a rock concert among other things.

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Themosthighstrange 0 points a year ago

Ban Pitbulls

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