Ironically, thanks to the 2A loonies we don't really need them anymore. Can even rifle a barrel liner using a car battery and a bucket of salt water at this point.

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Why does he need a gun when he has an entire army and nukes? Apparently if you're a felon you can't have a pistol but it's no issue being in charge of the most powerful army in the world and one of the biggest nuclear arsenals.

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I get the irony but if he managed to actually enact some form of gun control in this country it would be the hardest pill in the world for people like us to swallow who just can't stand that fucking idiot.

They will whinge about this for a few days before he finds some shiny thing to distract them with.

in the hands of untrained people with no background checks

In the context and language of the time, "well regulated" essentially meant "properly trained in their use" so there's a constitutional argument to be made for mandatory firearms training as a prerequisite gun ownership. That's...not going to reduce shootings in the ways you might expect, since a large portion of shootings are not done with legally owned guns to begin with, and there's no good reason organized crime (think gang and/or narcotics related, connected is why a few dozen counties account for something like 4 in 10 homicides) would use guns legally registered to themselves.

Would probably reduce the suicide rate though - anything that breaks the immediacy between wanting to do it and trying to do it tends to.

An important step up on the whole issue would be making gun owners legally liable for any crimes committed with a firearm they own, even if it's stolen unless the theft was reported beforehand and there is clear evidence that it was properly secured at the time of theft. You steal your father's rifle and go shoot up your school and he's on the hook for the murders too. Would make a bunch of folks much more concerned about properly securing their arms, which would further reduce the suicide rate if nothing else and put a dent in the "lone nutter shoots up their school" types as well.

Forgive me for being the ackshully guy in the thread, but it’s dark triad. A tetrad is comprised of four

Edit: guess I should have dug deeper. I didn’t know some add sadism to make it a tetrad. Thanks for teaching me something.

But weird to wait just a couple days after his support significantly fractured to claim his support can never fracture...

Very defeatist of you to suggest his base will always defend him, right after they appear to no longer be defending him

Only the most ardent propagandists are defending this killing. We have yet to see how it will play out, but you're telling us to give up already?

No. I won't give up as easily as you have. We will keep fighting

Cool, cool, see you in the rice fields then.

Not even sure if it's "my country" anymore

Rich white conservative men have stolen it, now I'm just a "subject" I guess... lol 🫠

Unchecked fascism. Beware.

it looks like the start of a civil war. i hope it doesn't come to that, but it really looks like that's where it's headed.

One of the main purposes (arguably the primary purpose?) of the "well regulated militia" was to ensure that settlers could attack and exterminate American Indian tribes during westward expansion.

You've heard of "a rising tide raises all ships", right?

These clowns honestly think "sinking undesirable ships raises the seafloor", and much prefer that methodology even if the gains are marginal.

oh, but they will all be billionaires one day!

There are onlyp two types of MAGAs - millionaires or morons. Which are you?

YOU can't have guns. THEY can have guns.

And everyone of them will say to you completely honestly, "it's a freer America than if I had voted for a Democrat."

At this point it's tribalism. Anyone who still supports Trump and the Republicans will always support them. Being Republican is part of their identity, it's the identity they share with their family, friends and coworkers. It's the identity of their community. They're not going to walk away from all that just because one irresponsible ICE agent killed one guy in a democratic city. They can't, they'd be walking away from everything they've known. Like their football team, they'll cheer their team on no matter what because it's their team. Simple as that.

Destroying your guns to own the libs

I do. And have my whole life.

Well the first, fourth, fourteenth, and a few others are now defacto gone. Not sure what you are going on about.

They'll ban guns the exact same way they implemented gun control: with racial implications and fear mongering at the idiot level, and subtle winking to each other at the politician level. Then they'll slowly add on each time they 'find' a new group to demonize and target. It's 'first they came for...' in practice.

Yeah imagine the president just ignoring an amendment. That would be nuts

A constitution is just a piece of paper.

Did you know: In China, Freedom of Speech is actually in their constitution? But guess what actually happens in practice.

Can I ask you where you have been these last couple of months?

I mean, the 18th amendment is basically just a footnote in modern terms, but it had to be repealed by the 21st amendment, so make of that what you will.

Secondly, one does not simply remove an amendment.

but it can be ignored.

The US wont ban guns but it has nothing to do with what Trump wants, the moment he blurts out he wants to ban them his caretakers will send someone in that appears intelligence in Trumps perspective and they will convince him otherwise.