Mom of 7-year-old hospitalized with brain swelling from measles: ‘I still wouldn’t have given my son the vaccine’
6 months ago by ickplant to c/actually_infuriating
conservatism is a mental illness.
Religion is just an excuse to justify the hatred. They hate the real Jesus and disagree with the text in the Bible.
These people have never read the bible.
It's not laziness. These people are actively opposed to vaccination.
Attempted murder gets my vote. Restraining order automatically granted between parent and child.
Just as ignorance of the law is no excuse, maybe we should think the same way about science provided three things:
- It is very consequential when science is ignored
- There is insanely broad consensus in the scientific community about the topic at hand
- A scientist, in this case a doctor, tells you to do something and then you do the opposite
Idk i kind of get it. I don't want the government regulating how I raise my kids. I don't want them to enforce that i follow rfk jrs recommendations. I don't want them saying I legally have to educate my kids according to turning point's curriculum.
It's a slippery slope and I don't trust the government as far as I can throw it to set what is considered scientific consensus.
Hard agree these parents should be found criminally negligent, but how will that be possible when their own government is telling them not to trust vaccines?
God gave you vaccinations.
Yeah... This is what MAGA looks like here.
A lot of people are confused about what's happened to my country. The answer is that votes from people like this are being counted as far more valuable than people in big cities that understand and respect science.
I'm speaking literally.
They have MORE of a weighted importance when voting.
Trust me, I know. County v county and whichever side has more counties gets the state, then whichever gets more states gets the win. Instead of something reasonable like population, this makes rural areas almost guaranteed to beat urban areas.
I'm American too and the election system here has always been awful. Unfortunately we're taught that it's 'the only way' or whatever the power-mongers would say.
Yeah, thank God he's only brain damaged, he might have had autism. ಠ_ಠ
thank God he’s only brain damaged
Think of the upside: now she doesn't have to be jealous of her son's intellect.
When people use the autism excuse (i.e. "vaccines cause autism"), I interpret that as "so you'd rather they be dead than to have autism?"
I don't actually believe vaccines cause autism, but I'm not going to try and argue that with someone when there is a much simpler counterargument.
Because they would literally rather that. If the kid "simply dies" then they get their eternal reward in Paradise you see. However they literally see autism as a manifestation of a moral failing. it's just literally God punishing them for vaccinating the kid.
A lot of them will never admit this out loud. Many of them don't even realize that this is how they think about it because it's a subconscious bias like how a lot of these so-called Christians hate poor people despite literally being told to treat them well and give to the poor. They have that unconscious bias of the Prosperity Gospel that makes them believe that rich people are favored by God and that's why they're rich, and therefore being poor must be a moral failing and a punishment from God. So they end up believing that the poor deserve to suffer because they're poor.
If we could identify autism in the womb, these people wouldn't be pro-life anymore.
They would actively kill the newborns they cry so much about protecting. I mean, they do anyway through negligence/lack of support because they only care about them while they're still in the womb, but they wouldn't care even then if they were an autistic kid.
they should check the mom too.
I hate everything about this. these dumb fucking people making these dumb fucking choices and only cause problems for a child who had no say in the matter.
this kid doesn't even get a chance at life because his idiot "caregivers" decided that he was better off
That mom needs to get slapped with charges and rot in jail, but we all know she'll just toss up a GoFund me and hit the nutty grifter circuit.
Both parents do. Dad is on the same side. Kid's able to move after almost a month in the hospital.
They pulled him from the first hospital because, "all they're doing is giving him antibiotics, so he might be more comfortable at home," even after that hospital told them to take him to a better hospital with specialists. Then when he went catatonic at home, they took him to the family doctor, literally his pediatrician, who took one look and said," get him to the good hospital now."
The article even says that the mom played the whole 'god has a plan' shit and that the son was chosen for it, by god.
I hate that this shit is going on 2 hours (driving) away.
whole 'god has a plan' shit and that the son was chosen for it, by god.
They have to do that now, because the alternate would mean admitting that they're abusing (possibly murdering) their child. And I guess their brain needs to protect them from that reality.
There's also the consequence that admitting anything else would mean their god isn't in control. I'm not sure what would terrify such a person more - admitting they were wrong about how to care for their kid, or admitting their god lacks the power to intervene in their life.
When Ethan contracted the measles around January 20, his parents hoped he would shake it off and “bounce back” like his brothers, aged 2 and 4, did when they came down with it a week or so prior. Ethan was not so lucky.
Jesus fuck he wasn't the only one...
the other 2 had a mild infection which is usually the case for children. but ethan had the most severe form which is rare; panechephalitis and dangerous.
all bets are off an adult gets it too.
There’s still time for the other 2.
It has been estimated that about 2 in 10,000 people who get measles will eventually develop SSPE. However, a 2016 study estimated that the rate for unvaccinated infants under 15 months was as high as 1 in 609. No cure for SSPE exists, and the condition is almost always fatal.
SSPE is characterized by a history of primary measles infection, followed by a normal, unremarkable recovery. Symptoms of SSPE appear later. On average, the first symptoms appear about 10 years after the initial infection
thats the house episode, a child was unvaccinated and then developed the SSPE like years later.
Under the present administration, this family would have been first in line to receive their "breeding license."
Breeding the "Trump Youth" and next generation of MAGAts.
Eugenics is fascist, end of.
Note: positive eugenics is also fascist.
For clarification - negative eugenics = preventing certain groups from reproducing. Positive eugenics = promoting certain groups to reproduce.
Fascists use both.
Yes, it’s apparently a human right for evil subhumans to bring children into the world and abuse them. The anti-eugenics crowd speed-running idiocracy.
This has been considered at various points in history and, at least in the Western world, it often comes down to white people being given permission (regardless of preparedness) and people of color being forcibly sterilized. Also known as eugenics.
White supremacy is a hell of a scourge and the Western world is still trying to shake it, over the course of centuries.
Child abuse as well
You let your kid walk to the store and back by themselves? Arrest them and take their kids away.
You refused to let them have life saving treatment? Oh okay you have our sympathy?
These are the morals of the right.
It's because the only kids they like are orphans. Easier to manipulate.
This is also why they want pregnant teenage girls to stay pregnant and put the kid up "for adoption" instead of getting an abortion.
That, and they're misogynistic pricks who like to flex their authority over women ay every opportunity.
I don't disagree. Its clear that this rot has grown through all levels of society. That all these stupid things that go on are not stupid. They are evil, malevolent. They are responsible for so much death and destruction I will never be at peace until they are in pieces.
The whole lie is falling apart and literally everything they stand for can be explained by "it feeds the child sex trafficking machine".
Until proven otherwise, that is now my base assumption of any R politician.
But it's weird. It's like I'm in a room full of people with a question posted on a chalkboard...
x = y
x + y = 4
And I'm standing here screaming out "you fucking idiots, how can you not see it".
Pun not intended.
You should go to jail for abusing your kid over a conspiracy theory.
The jury of her peers in the district will be 20 points below her current IQ.
Dead fish and a shovel?
That's called negligence causing death. She admitted that if she knew this would kill her child she'd do it anyway.
This just sounds like abortion with extra steps.
Essentially saying, "I'd rather have a dead child than an autistic one."
I have a relative who has refused to get her three children vaccinated because she's convinced that's what causes autism. Guess what? Her youngest child was just diagnosed with autism anyway. So now she says it's because she (the mom) was vaccinated as a child, and somehow that made her son autistic. There's no reasoning with unreasonable people.
Why the fuck are vaccines a political thing? FFS, they aren't a new thing and have a long-proven track record of being effective at preventing debilitating and deadly diseases.
TRUMP made it extremely political during covid, and all the anti-vaxxers that were originally on the "hippie" side of the left went to alt-right wing. besides it was the movement jumpstarted by Jenny mccarthy and her husband convincing midwestern moms in the 2000s that it cause autism they took it and ran with it.(apparently i dint see anything after 2015, so they mightve stopped doing it"
All of these shitty immoral parents with "autistic" children need something to blame besides themselves, so we have invented something to blame.
The main group of people that pushed and started this conspiracy were stay at home moms, often religious. They are awful at cause and effect.
Because the proponents try to work through all means, including political, to spread their idiocy.
A capable government would mandate a basic set of vaccines, with medical exceptions only, and those only with a second opinion from a limited list of specially accredited specialists.
It's not political per-see, these are ideological extremist.
why would she change her decision? her kid is suffering, not her. that's just an accessory, not something she's actually attached to.
She literally blames god for it not her own actions.
Psychologically makes sense. If her child is almost dead due to her decision, then she can either keep fooling herself it was a good decision, or she can acknowledge it's her fault her child is almost dead.
It's much easier to keep insisting it was a good decision, because the alternative is extremely uncomfortable.
Take her other kids away from her.
Less vaccines = more brain damage = more Republican voters.
We will have lead back in gas by 2028.
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I also want lead back in my milk god damnit! It made it taste good! I’m tired of this nanny state bullshit!
“We’re not blaming God for this,” said 35-year-old Kristina
Of course not, its not gods fault, its hers and her husbands.
They should lose custody of their kids. This is callous disregard for their safety and reckless endangerment. This should be treated no differently than addicts that leave drugs around for their kids to get into.
and if she so vehemently anti-medicine and anti-science, why the fuck are they in a hospital.
She's not blaming Santa or the Easter Bunny either..
That hospital comment is a good catch. I am all for personal choices but for an anti Vaxer I assume you need to be off into a community disconnected from the rest of social interactions with people that use and get vaccinated from state medical facilities. I'd say the same for fully cruelty free! Vegans, but in their case, the smell of bacon won't expand their brain.
always goes along similar lines
"I dont trust medicine/science! we don't vaccinate!"
"Oh my god, my child is dying! QUICK CALL AND AMBULANCE"
"Oh My god, you want to use medicine to save my child!?! NO, HOW DARE YOU PUT EVIL MEDICINE IN MY CHILD"
"Oh, its too late now to do anything? Okay, I guess now you can use medicine on him.."
"Oh My God! My child died! EVIL DOCTORS AND THEIR SCAM MEDICINE!"
"Oh my god, my child is dying! QUICK CALL AND AMBULANCE"
Sorry, I don't believe in the internal combustion engine.
This is straight-up child abuse.
Well that's cuz you're a fucking idiot
The anger I have right now for this fucking child abuser. FUCK. This mom should be the one fucking dying, not this kid. He doesn't deserve this.
She should be jailed for child abuse and the kid taken away (CPS).
Its really no wonder conservatives seem so apt to rape children because they view children as possessions and not people. Just objects they can use and throw away at a whim. This child is dying because their parents wanted them to.
Sorry little dude. But fuck her.
Butt ducking could've avoided this situation entirely.
Smallpox, Malaria, then Religion.
Fun fact.
In China, it is illegal to indoctrinate children in a religious faith. They are required to be 18 years or older, before they can voluntarily choose to attend a service.
Religion is regulated like alcohol and cigarettes
Religions only survive at all by indoctrination of the young.
Yes, although I don’t think concentration camps are the answer either.
Explain to me why this woman shouldn't be in prison.
What does that have to do with Uyghur genocide?
CCP wants to make sure it's indoctrination doesn't have to compete in the free market of brainwashing during a child's more impressionable years. Remarkably in line with their economic policy. Lol.
That's certainly the American dogma
what the fuck happened to my country and the world!
It's a rise of celebrated ignorance. These people are stupid and proud of it.
The ownership class is so short-sighted. What use is an adult crippled with brain damage or paralysis brought on in childhood if they're practically incapable of jumping in as meat for the grinder?
I just can't fanthom how anyone. anyone. can be a republican at this point. even the libertarians are tainted. they seriously need to do a wig and find a new party that goes back to what conservatism really means with lincoln and teddy roosevelt as the influences under a new untarnished name. If they did and got away from coroporate america then they would be real competition to the democrats.
Idiocracy
This is still unusual enough that it makes it into international news.
It's so strange to openly admit you don't want to be the best parent you can possibly be. 🤷🏻♂️
To openly admit you are okay with your child dying to protect your political beliefs.
Ever read the Book of Job?
This is how they're taught to see this shit.
Reading that book as a teen was one of the early cracks forming around the evangelical bullshit I was raised on.
The events of that book, and the motivations behind those events, are utterly fucking reprehensible.
That reminds me of the South Park episode Cartmanland. Cartman (an absolutely awful person) gets his own amusement park, while Kyle (whom Cartman's always ripping on) develops an infected hemorrhoid and is put in the hospital. Kyle starts losing his faith over the unfairness of it all, so his parents share with him the story of Job. Instead of coming off with a renewed faith, Kyle takes the story to mean there is no god and loses the will to live.
Until Cartman ends up losing everything, that is. Only then does Kyle see a bit of justice in the world and ends up making a recovery.
One of my favorite episodes:
“I have a hemorrhoid. It’s like an infected blood vessel on your ass. I’m nine years old, and I have a hemorrhoid, Stan. I have a hemorrhoid, and, Cartman has his own theme park.”
When you look at what the bible says outside of the rhetoric of faith it all turns to insane nonsense.
Perfect example. This is not an inaccurate description of the events told on the bible.
he did offer them a solution, its the doctors.
Yeah, part of not having your genes pass down a generation is that generation dying out due to your fault. I would say this is 100% natural selection.
Still annoying as fuck that it has become acceptable to take such stupid decisions.
why the fuck has the state not taken custody away
Because it’s South Carolina, where the conception of children as property of their parents is maybe more deeply embedded than anywhere else.
because as bad as it is with them, it's worse in the system
Poor kid. Survival of the fittest, I suppose... Sorry about your luck of the draw with your mom.
guessing shes also brain damaged from being anti-vax.
house did an episode on this, the child had measles that went semi-dormant and cause panechepalitis.
There are studies that show having contracted Covid affected people's cognitive function.
From what I understand, covid can impact pretty much any system inside your body, even with infections that don't feel like a big deal at the time, like some messed up roulette game. We weren't able to beat it and not nearly enough people got vaccinated. I'm curious to see what literature comes out about it in about 10 years, in terms of societal impact.
I'd believe it. I've felt really off the past few years.
In fact I also feel like everyone else had been slightly off the past few years.
Trump probably knew all along. He loves the poorly educated.
Could you imagine the child sex-trafficking empire Trump Jr. could build if most the US population is dumbed down just a couple more notches? Huge. Bigly. Greatest child sex trafficking ring the world had ever seen.
Yep. About 1% get the encephalitis right away, and about the same amount who didn't get it then will get it later.
This autism through vaccination shit has been disproven time and again, but some people keep it alive for reasons beyond comprehension. Yes, vaccinatins are not totally risk free, with the MMR vaccine being somewhere between one in a million and one in ten million IIRC, but those idiots prefer a severe medical problem up to death in the single digit percent chance.
hey thats poliomyelitis, chances about 1% too from the actual polio disease.
Good job killing your son you stupid piece of shit.
These things suck so bad. It’s frustrating when the children suffer because of the parents choices.
It has historically been a requirement for school enrollment.
But guess how many of these kids are homeschooled
I attended a conservative US school in the 2000s, in a conservative state. For all the pot stirring uber-Christian parents did, for all the racism, sexism, elitism and raging against even the littlest diversity event, kids just got vaccines. They didn't ask us if we wanted them, we just got them and there was zero fuss from parents about it.
You heard about (and I personally knew some) homeschooled kids, but mentally we lumped them with Amish, "far away" and keeping to themselves.
...Hence this wave of anti-vaxxing is just bizzare to me, even from someone that came from antivaxx land. I'm not sure how "mandatory" it is these days, but it wasn't always like that.
Not that vaccines can cause autism in the first place because that's not how autism works, but is this really so much better than autism? Are they so scared of having an autistic child that they'd rather risk their child dying? It alarms me how much people misunderstand such a common condition to the point they'd rather have a dead child than an autistic one.
I would still report this terrible woman to CPS.
Unfortunately not, 3 other children, 2 of which already got measles a week or two prior to the one in the article. 🙄
Source: the article
Measles is incredibly infectious. Once it hits a household, everyone will be infected.
Mom is fine because she got MMR vaccine.
Measles is not normally a fatal disease. And anti-vax sentiment isn't hereditary.
1% of measles infected get viral encephalitis like this kid, and blindness. Permanent brain damage.
So we fine now sacrificing innocent children to punish parents?
Who said that? I said it's unfortunate that she's not being removed from the gene pool, because she has 3 more kids. Are you implying that I think we should kill her remaining kids to stop the bloodline? I'm both offended, and confused as to how you came to that conclusion.
Being sad that people like her will procreate doesn't mean all her children should die. I'm honestly trying to figure out how your logic ended up here but fuck man, I just can't.
Reactionary ideology is a cancer, this right here is proof that if we want a future for ourselves and the next generations we must eliminate it.
Unfortunately, I don't think we have the time to deprogram all the death cult...
Poor kid. Doesn't get to decide whether he wants to be born, doesn't get to pick his parents. Stuck with whatever idiots pop him into the world.
Remember, there is no unselfish reason to have a kid.
Just another example proving Hitchens right about religion.
They should be charged with murder
the boy isn't dead and hopefully he wont be for a long time, hopefully 65 more years or more
Propaganda is a hell of a drug.
What do you expect? This top shelf dingus has been told by what is now the “top health official” in this ass backward country that fucking vaccines are harmful…
She already procreated.
There's no exception for killing your child before they procreate?
Unfortunately, that's for when you kill yourself like an idiot, not when your parents kill you from neglect.
If you were vaccinated then it's a lifelong immunity. You really only need to test immunity if you are unsure if you got the vaccine (generally done with the MMR but there's a standalone vaccine as well). Not trying to discourage anyone from testing, but if you were vaccinated when you were a kid then you don't need to be overly concerned.
If you were vaccinated then it’s a lifelong immunity.
Not true for all people. A booster would not hurt anyone.
You need to deal with these people.
It's hard to get people to trust society when society exists to serve the ruling class.
Once in a while, conspiracy theorists are proven right and that's all that's necessary to sow doubt in the system.
If the average person recognized that average people are farm animals, then it would be easier to reason with those that reject average rhetoric.
They should be arrested for child neglect.
Weapons grade stupidity
Either that or she secretly thought this one kid didn’t deserve to live I guess
Well that's one thing Idiocracy didn't predict. People becoming so anti-intellectual they cant even keep their own children alive. However I whole heartedly believe these people considered energy drinks as a remedy, "because of the electrolytes".
Can we finally already just make vaccines obligatory, with NO religious exceptions? I don't care about your stonage fairytales, I care about not dying from preventable illnesses just because you need to have the brain of a 5 year old.
The ONLY exceptions to vaccines should be for medical reasons and they should require signatirues from two different doctors at least
Fuck these religious idiots
Her husband looks twice her age, too...
We should really be discussing if people who refuse to believe in medicine should be receiving medical care. Instead of a hospital she should be visiting her shaman about that swollen brain.
Oh ok this is kinda like the "tylenol causes autism" situation.
truly sorry for the kid. his parents are literally too retarded to have kids.
and yes, it's a slur against retarded people... like her.
was it directed at you?
intent matters.
I was very explicit on who the word was meant for, and it wasn't you (unless you identify with the shitty parents).
if you were offended or hurt by it, you need to reevaluate your perspective in the world and realize that the world doesn't (and won't) change for you because of your emotional trauma. deal with it, that's life. Talk with your therapist, your minister, whoever you need to.
I'm not going to change the way I say things when my intent was to slander the parents, and only the parents.
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Fuck every single unfortunate atom that make up these inbred fucking monsters. 'God' gave them enough signs to make election campaigners jealous and they ignored every fucking one. They should be in prison for child endangerment at best.
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