Exclusive: Justice Department launches a criminal investigation into Trump accuser E. Jean Carroll | CNN Politics

5 months ago by Catma to c/news

The Justice Department has launched a criminal investigation into E. Jean Carroll, the former magazine columnist who accused President Donald Trump of sexual assault, according to multiple sources familiar with the matter.
PoopSpiderman 245 points 5 months ago

What good is being president if you can’t instruct your justice department to investigate the woman you raped? Excuse me! I thought this was America!

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Sanctus 191 points 5 months ago

All pretenses of not being a personal bludgeon have been dropped.

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T00l_shed 86 points 5 months ago

Was there any pretense before?

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BonsaiBoo 46 points 5 months ago

Well corporate media outlets held a pretense to toe the line and try to keep social democratic movements from gaining popularity by pretending all is normal, all is well.

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T00l_shed 12 points 5 months ago

Sure, when it comes to media, but the pretense of the doj not being a cudgel is what i meant

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shittydwarf 155 points 5 months ago

Actually she is his adjudicated rape victim, not accuser

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Blackfeathr 74 points 5 months ago

CNN is owned by a MAGA billionaire shithead and the use of the word "accuser" instead of "sexual assault survivor" is likely intentional.

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SeductiveTortoise 9 points 5 months ago

Make corporate media responsible for spreading misinformation again.

MCMRFSMA!

Rolls off the tongue like a fine ... rusty school bus.

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Janx 130 points 5 months ago

Literal political weaponization to go after a victim of your leader. The Republican party is so despicable...

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TrickDacy 45 points 5 months ago

BOtH SiDeS tHo

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CharlesDarwin 19 points 5 months ago

"I know, Kamala definitely would have done the same kinds of things!"

-- Maximalist online armchair leftist

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tomiant 3 points 5 months ago

I voted Kodos.

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Mulligrubs -59 points 5 months ago

iTs TrUe ThOuGh.

sOrRy, bIdEn WaS aLsO sHiT

Democrats couldn't even raise minimum wage. Useless.

ETA this post is now my most unpopular, unseating the former champion, "fuck the pope". You've been a terrific audience, thank you!

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Tujio 49 points 5 months ago

Democrats don't do anything.

Republicans do evil things.

Yeah, one side is fucking worse.

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Mulligrubs -12 points 5 months ago

Sure. I've voted D for last two national elections.

But... they're still absolutely shit. Two different turds, one is less runny. Good job.

Over 70% of voters want universal healthcare, Ds can't be bothered. Our "labor party" can't even manage to keep our wages and benefits above those of POLAND. Un-fucking-believable, we've been surpassed by eastern europe.

Biden couldn't even manage ONE stand alone minimum wage bill. Didn't even bother. You should be ashamed to defend him, that was his platform. What he did there was an evil thing.

He didn't need 60 votes. They can use the "nuclear option" whenever they'd like, for example, passing judges just requires 50 votes. (which 8 Ds just crossed the aisle to vote for an individual who refuses to say that Biden won the 2020 election). Excellent work again, Ds.

Trent Lott the Republican came up with the "nuclear option" term, and bOtH pArTiEs adopted it immediately, because it scares the shit out of dummies. Before 2000s, that simple majority vote was known as the "constitutional option". They can do this whenever they'd like. They had minimum wage in the fucking bag for first two years. Are you blind?

https://www.politifact.com/...

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MiddleAgesModem 10 points 5 months ago

Oh fuck you, you sack of garbage. Biden or Harris would never do the vast majority of the fucked up shit Trump has already done.

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NihilsineNefas -9 points 5 months ago

Other than, you know, funding and defending a genocide, declaring that the most contagious neurological and immune compromising viruses to have ever been made in a lab was 'over' because billionaires were losing too much money.

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Soulg 8 points 5 months ago

Please never vote again

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TrippingBalls -1 points 5 months ago

But I like the illusion that my vote can change something

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Mulligrubs -6 points 5 months ago

I vote every election, and voted for Harris and Biden before that.

Ds are a minority now for a reason... less than a third of voters, just like Rs. It's because you're both absolute shit parties.

Over 70% of voters want universal healthcare and higher minimum federal wage for example.. voters have wanted this for years.

Independents are now 40%+ of voters. You require our votes to win any national election.

Please stop treating those who help you like garbage, and at least pretend to be a reasonable person. You're only fucking yourself and your own party over. Good job, professor.

p.s. Oh, and knowing my voting is against your wishes makes it all the sweeter, thanks! I would feel awful if someone like you agreed with me.

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TrickDacy 3 points 5 months ago

I appreciate you self identifying this way

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Bonesince1997 12 points 5 months ago

Imagine thinking deplorable doesn't define a republican, especially with actions like these and days like Jan 6th under their belt.

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Graymouzer 76 points 5 months ago

Accuser makes it sound like he was not found guilty of rape. If Trump is not impeached the US will be rightly viewed as an autocratic banana republic.

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kreskin 39 points 5 months ago

I feel like we blew past banana republic a while back and are onto deciding whether we're a nation of laws at all anymore. The idea that the US is a democracy is laughable.

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IronBird 4 points 5 months ago

sure it is, poors get one set of laws and rich get the other, as is tradition for the "roman model" of governance

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MiddleAgesModem 3 points 5 months ago

The fact that democracy put us here is what's laughable.

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KneeTitts -1 points 5 months ago

to be fair, the amerikkkan version of democracy has always been corperatocracy or christocracy.. never was or ever will it be real democracy

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glimse 3 points 5 months ago

How do you people write that without cringing yourself to death? It's like tweens writing Micro$oft. Waow you really showed em with that original twist in the name

For the record, I hate this place as much as you - if not more.

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MiddleAgesModem 0 points 5 months ago

Thanks for edgelord nonsense. The US is, by definition, a democracy.

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BarneyPiccolo -3 points 5 months ago

It's still a Democracy as long as we have elections. Once MAGA cancels elections, it's Civil War.

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WhiskyTangoFoxtrot 9 points 5 months ago

it’s Civil War.

Unless there's something better on TV.

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dustyData 7 points 5 months ago

Elections are not the defining trait of democracies. Technically they are not even a requirement. This is why plenty of autocracies can actually have a ton of elections.

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MiddleAgesModem 3 points 5 months ago

Elections are not the defining trait of democracies

Obviously, he meant free and fair elections, not show ones in dictatorships. Legitimate elections define democracy.

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jj4211 2 points 5 months ago

Oh, we'll have elections.

They are just trying to decide how convincing they can get away with making it look like a free and fair election without letting it actually be free and fair.

Putin for example has decided that 88% support is "close enough" to a free and fair election.. for now.

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KneeTitts 1 point 5 months ago

how convincing they can get away with making it look like a free and fair election

I believe all elections in the US going forward will be putin style elections, the rethugs will just issue a decree that the supreme leader won again and this time he going 95% of the votes. All hail king turd

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backalleycoyote 11 points 5 months ago

You think Congress has the power to enforce an impeachment even if they rule that way? We’re beyond banana and full mango.

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ohulancutash 6 points 5 months ago

Accuser makes it sound like he was not found guilty of rape

He wasn’t. It was a civil lawsuit. He was found liable.

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BarneyPiccolo 1 point 5 months ago

Guilty and Liable are just different legal words for different kinds of cases, but they both mean the same thing:

HE DID IT!

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MiddleAgesModem 1 point 5 months ago

but they both mean the same thing

No, they don't. Being intentionally stupid doesn't help your cause.

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chilldrivenspade 4 points 5 months ago
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jj4211 2 points 5 months ago

Frankly, the continuing inaction to do nothing at all to even admonish the administration for openly corrupt behavior turning everything into a personal benefit for trump is depressing even if someone implemented 'other methods'.

As bad as Trump is, it's more worrying that no one is even vaguely willing to go along with ousting him. The handful of GOP that was even vaguely on the fence has been ousted at this point. Since the supreme court has ruled that openly politically aligned and outright racist districting is ok, and challenges about each state's districting are only ever valid if the challenge would strike down a democrat plan...

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Pfeffy 3 points 5 months ago

He was found liable not guilty, and if you don't understand the difference you should read instead of commenting.

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chilldrivenspade -1 points 5 months ago

pull the mushroom out of your sphincter

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Pfeffy 0 points 5 months ago

Pull the fingers out of your ears and accept the free Middle School vocabulary/ civics lesson.

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BarneyPiccolo -2 points 5 months ago

Guilty and Liable are just different legal words for different kinds of cases, but they both mean the same thing:

HE DID IT!

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Pfeffy 6 points 5 months ago

He definitely did it, but liability is not guilt and you shouldn't say such ignorant things in public.

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chilldrivenspade 0 points 5 months ago

fighting the good fight for the rapist pedophile, are we? you should be so proud of your good deeds, good character, and integrity

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chilldrivenspade 0 points 5 months ago
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Bluefalcon 72 points 5 months ago

First he raped her. Then he violated her. Now he will try to kill her. I want her on a coin.

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Mouselemming 37 points 5 months ago

She should get the entire slush fund.

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CharlesDarwin 24 points 5 months ago

^ This.

Cannot wait to see some reporter or politician ask Todd Blanche if she's eligible for the money.

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underThunder 55 points 5 months ago
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shittydwarf 35 points 5 months ago

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Soulg -11 points 5 months ago

Fuck you

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adarza 21 points 5 months ago

we skidded out of that timeline years ago. there's no way back.

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Archer 4 points 5 months ago

Skibidi’d out of that timeline

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crystalmerchant 52 points 5 months ago

Is this the same administration that said Biden weaponized the DOJ?

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CharlesDarwin 36 points 5 months ago

Every accusation is a confession of either what the Repedopublicans are already doing, or what they plan to do.

Every. Time.

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regedit 8 points 5 months ago

Every accusation is an admittance or precursor to truth from this despot. tRump Derangement Syndrome is what he considers his supporters to have and levies as an insult to others who hate him.

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bitjunkie -1 points 5 months ago

Hahaha I'm going to spell his name weird, that'll show him

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regedit -1 points 5 months ago

The dude makes up names for people, calls women and people he doesn't like low IQ, and you have a problem with me changing his name so the word rump is prominent? Feign some more incivility. Odd that MAGA goons always have a problem with the smallest, most inconsequential things (like calling you weird), yet have no issue overlooking the same when it's someone they agree with. If your identity is so entwined with a single politician that modified names cause discomfort, maybe it's time for some self-reflection.

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bitjunkie 1 point 5 months ago

MAGA goons

lol k

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obvs 44 points 5 months ago

STOP. CALLING. IT. THE. JUSTICE. DEPARTMENT.

It is the JUSTIFICATION Department.

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minorkeys 7 points 5 months ago

Persecution department? Department of litigation?

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phutatorius 4 points 5 months ago

Federal Bureau of Payback.

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muusemuuse 5 points 5 months ago

Phantom Limb voice: “THE REVENGE SOCIETY”

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BarneyPiccolo 0 points 5 months ago

A better word is Rationalization, but it doesn't fit your justice/justification construction.

While both words involve giving reasons for an action, to justify means to prove that an action is right, moral, or valid. To rationalize means to invent socially acceptable or seemingly logical excuses for an action after the fact to make it appear reasonable.

It is the Department of Rationalization.

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obvs 1 point 5 months ago

But "Department of Justification" is still "DoJ".

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BarneyPiccolo 1 point 5 months ago

I hear ya. I only recently discovered the difference between the two words, and I love using them in their proper context.

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Reygle 43 points 5 months ago

Every day, worse.

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Asafum 11 points 5 months ago

It really is fucking astounding how every day finds a way to be worse than the one before...

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TerdFerguson 5 points 5 months ago

As it will, until people organize and push back.

Will you have more capability to do that tomorrow, or less?

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kreskin 5 points 5 months ago

"And then, things got worse", used to be a joke about the arc of Russian history. Things sure have changed quickly.

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azimir 29 points 5 months ago

The GOP just HATES the law. They must despise having a Constitution which establishes a country of laws since they allow this kind of autocratic dictator shit to keep going on under their seal of approval.

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zebidiah 9 points 5 months ago

Wilholt's law:

Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.

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ryantown 24 points 5 months ago

The irony of him drawing more attention to this through his vendetta.

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TrippingBalls 5 points 5 months ago

He isn't smart enough to think things through to the next step. We all know that he's not played 4D chess

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osanna 4 points 5 months ago
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kreskin 4 points 5 months ago

He even got "cow" and "giraffe" right, I heard him brag. So about a 3 year olds level of cognition.

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III 2 points 5 months ago

Thousands for all we know. But we do know he isn't fucking stupid enough to brag about it.

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Janx 2 points 5 months ago

Attention and then... what? There's no consequences for this horrible man or his administration's illegal acts. I console myself by hoping victims get justice in the next life...

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ryantown 2 points 5 months ago

What can we do? You're exactly right but we as the people need to claw onto what little power we still have.

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Janx 2 points 5 months ago

True. Sorry for being defeatist. We definitely have to resist. Shit just sucks...

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dgmib 22 points 5 months ago

Good thing they just created a fund for people who are victims of a weaponized justice system.

/s

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Blackmist 21 points 5 months ago

OK, but if she wins again Trump gets hanged. Deal?

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jj4211 15 points 5 months ago

Nah, the fix is in. Trump's administration doesn't even pretend to be on the up and up. Openly corrupt and the conservative wing has lost its mind more than usual to approve the behavior, whether it's in courts or congress.

They are going to toss her in prison for daring to inconvenience dear leader.

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chiliedogg 3 points 5 months ago

This justice department is very incompetent. The only political prosecution they ever got to a trial I can remember is the guy who threw a sandwich at one of their thugs, and the jury threw that shit out.

Everything else has been dismissed because this is the worst bunch of lawyers to ever lawyer.

2 years ago, career attorneys with decades of experience would drop everything to get a job in the justice department because it was so prestigious. Now they're having trouble recruiting kids straight out of law school graduating at the bottom of their class.

And federal judges are DONE with these clowns. It's not just a presumption of innocence for the defendant. The justices's default assumptions are increasingly that the justice department is actively lying.

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WanderWisley 20 points 5 months ago

I didn't rape that woman, I only rape children. I didn’t loose the 2020 election. My very fine phone call with Georgia proves that. 🫲🍊🫱

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mrmisses 18 points 5 months ago

Someone please make this end

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corbindallas 13 points 5 months ago
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SabinStargem 2 points 5 months ago

"Solve this five-letter word, starting with T and ending with P*."

*Coincidentally, worth less than soiled toilet paper.

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DragonAce 18 points 5 months ago

Will no one rid us of this turbulent priest Todd Blanche?

God I'm so sick of this entire corrupt administration and their fucking childish vindictive bullshit.

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chilldrivenspade 17 points 5 months ago
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KneeTitts 1 point 5 months ago

MamaMiiiia

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inb4_FoundTheVegan 17 points 5 months ago

"Babe wake up, new most corrupt thing ever just dropped"

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BarneyPiccolo 15 points 5 months ago

Hasn't he given her enough money? You already know she's unforgivably litigious, so you give her another reason to sue, after the judge inevitably throws out this case, like they've thrown out every one of these cases?

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FistingEnthusiast 25 points 5 months ago

He hasn't paid a cent

And it sounds a lot like you're accusing her of being vexatious

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MiddleAgesModem 11 points 5 months ago

Why the fuck shouldn't she be vexatious? Doesn't that just mean angry? I think she's justified in being angry.

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captainlezbian 4 points 5 months ago

Vexatious in this contexts implies vexatious litigation which is a form of abuse against the legal system and very much what he wants people to think she's doing

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MiddleAgesModem 2 points 5 months ago

But isn't he initiating this litigation?

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melsaskca 4 points 5 months ago

The law is not written in stone. Different DOJ's interpret things differently, from other DOJ's. That is why a "well-written" law is ambiguous, so it can potentially generate large amounts of legal costs and fees.

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CharlesDarwin 15 points 5 months ago

Remember all the assholes in the Tone Police from the "liberal media", as well as all the reactionary centrists, as well as a few self-styled online leftist revolutionary types were all spending lots of time and energy wagging their fucking fingers at Biden pardoning his family?

Seems he knew full well what a goddamned monster Pumpkinhead and his crime wave really are. If I were to criticize this action, it's that he didn't spread the net much wider.

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kreskin -6 points 5 months ago

Just because Trump is a shit doesn't mean Biden should be allowed to be. This is the problem with the democrats, they figure as long as they are a hair better than fascists they should be respected. Hunter is a peice of shit crackhead who made a career lobbying for foriegn interests based on his connection to his daddy. 2 in 10 Americans supported Bidens decision to unconditionally pardon his idiot of a son. The problem here is that the pardon exists at all. There should be checks and balances against it being abused.

https://www.theatlantic.com/...

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CharlesDarwin 6 points 5 months ago

We all know that Pumpkinhead would have gone full lawfare on everyone in Biden's family otherwise. And for a big nothingburger. He was a crackhead? He sold paintings based on his name recognition?

Meanwhile, Pumpkinhead pardoned terrorists so that some of them could go on to commit more crimes - like molesting children.

Don't compare the two things; it's patently ridiculous. Biden only had to do this because he knows just what a vindictive asshole Pumpkinhead is and so very butthurt that he LOST to Biden.

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Wataba 5 points 5 months ago

Thanks for clarifying that you've allowed the American Nazis to take power unopposed, to once again spite the Dems.

Humanity deserves to die.

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ShellMonkey 13 points 5 months ago

Political weaponization/slush fund compensation incoming? No? What do you mean corruption?

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cheers_queers 13 points 5 months ago

this poor woman will never have peace until she is dead.

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regedit 2 points 5 months ago

I hope she 86s his ass, this time.

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osanna 1 point 5 months ago
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BarneyPiccolo 1 point 5 months ago

Because of what she did, he will never have peace. He will be recorded in history as a Rapist President for the rest of time. It is a permanent part of his legacy.

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JeeBaiChow 12 points 5 months ago

Well, some people no doubt thought the orange buffoon was preferable to a woman in a powersuit with a funny laugh...

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pelespirit 12 points 5 months ago

I think he thinks he's dying and he doesn't want a rape on his record before he dies. Whether or not he's actually dying, is anyone's guess.

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bus_factor 29 points 5 months ago

I think he's just getting angrier, like dementia patients often do. Also, he needs a distraction from the Iran war, which was a distraction from the Epstein files, which was a distraction from...

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lemmyng 9 points 5 months ago

Can confirm. My dad had dementia before he passed, and it exaggerated all of his worst qualities. Lashing out at loved ones, increasingly isolating himself, frequent denial of his deteriorating state, refusing to partake in any activities unless he was self-motivated or was coaxed excessively into doing things.

Trump is NOT making it to 2028. Hence the acceleration of all his dumb plans.

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felykiosa 4 points 5 months ago

Dont threaten me with a good time

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village604 2 points 5 months ago

I doubt he lasts to the end of the year before a stroke or MI takes him out.

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pelespirit 3 points 5 months ago

Maybe, but he's having his republicans and the DOJ go around trying to clean up his past.

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TipRing 5 points 5 months ago

We're all dying, but Trump is such a failure he can't even do that efficiently.

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BarneyPiccolo 4 points 5 months ago

He's 80 years old, in terrible shape, and eats awful food. of course he's dying.

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pelespirit 1 point 5 months ago

I meant in the next month or two.

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tacoplease 3 points 5 months ago

Oh wait till after he dies. They can heap on all the ones he's never faced in trial.

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HubertManne 3 points 5 months ago

I think when he talks about weaponizing the justice department he means himself.

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Major_Tsiom 12 points 5 months ago

Heh. The United States has a king.😂

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obvs 11 points 5 months ago

What would France do?

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MiddleAgesModem 5 points 5 months ago

Not elect Trump in the first place.

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kreskin 4 points 5 months ago

Whatever israel tells them to do, same as the US, maybe to a lesser degree. The Epstein honeypot swept up leaders across the globe, including in France. Pretending France, Germany, the Uk, Denmark, etc are free of their bribing and compromat influence is wishful thinking.

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SnarkoPolo 10 points 5 months ago

You're surprised when fascism does fascism?

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KneeTitts 1 point 5 months ago

Not surprised, just... disappointed in humanity

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radiofreebc 10 points 5 months ago
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BarneyPiccolo 1 point 5 months ago

Someone should ask Todd Flintstone if Carrol, Comey, James, and the rest are eligible, and watch his head explode.

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HubertManne 9 points 5 months ago

she can use that fund to protect people from presidents that weaponize the justice department no?

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CultLeader4Hire 5 points 5 months ago

I don’t think he’s payed up yet

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betanumerus 9 points 5 months ago
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SirMaple__ 9 points 5 months ago

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HootinNHollerin 2 points 5 months ago path: 0 23961693 23962667, hotness: undefined, score: 2, children: 0
Mulligrubs 7 points 5 months ago

Open, rampant corruption. We are watching the disintegration of the "Great Experiment" in real time.

Economic collapse and balkanization will follow, and that's for the best, really. Our state governments are much more effective at governing, and the feds have become too power drunk, greedy, and frankly ridiculous to hold office any longer, let them go.

We have at least four nations within our borders, time to divide into smaller, more efficient governments. The largest fleet on Earth needs to be dismantled, we can't afford our world police delusions. We tried, sorry kids.

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SabinStargem 2 points 5 months ago

I feel fortunate to live in my state. It is far more coherent and democratic than the bullshit of the Federal government.

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NocturnalMorning 6 points 5 months ago

If hell is real (fat chance), I wish Trump and all his cronies to rot for eternity there stubbing their toes on a coffee table and stepping on Legos every day when they get out of bed each morning.

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Ghyste 5 points 5 months ago

Oh for fuck's sake...

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sturmblast 4 points 5 months ago

Fuck Trump

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cley_faye 4 points 5 months ago

It seems that a surefire way for the doj to open an investigation is to be a whistle blower of any sort, and the surefire way for the doj to NOT open an investigation is to be the target of whistle blowers of any sort.

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ThePowerOfGeek 3 points 5 months ago

Of course they are. Vindictive retributions are back on the menu (did they ever leave?).

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Bieren 1 point 5 months ago

Finally a good use for my taxes.

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