Lets celebrate

4 days ago by return2ozma to c/memes

orca 44 points 4 days ago

White dude here. Growing up, my mom always baked it like the left one. She would drop pieces of bread on top so it would toast up. Itโ€™s still the best mac and cheese Iโ€™ve had to this day and now I need to make it. RIP mom.

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zerofk 4 points 3 days ago

Instead of bread try a layer of grated cheese, and put it under an overhead grill.

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suxen_tsihcrana 6 points 3 days ago

Mixture of grated cheese and panko, best of both ๐ŸคŒ

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orca 1 point 2 hours ago

Oh hell yeah.

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Aneb 2 points 4 days ago

My mom never cooked and my dad didn't either. When I was growing up my oldest sister made Kraft from a box a lot, too bad it sucks nowadays. Kraft use to be so good.

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HugeNerd 2 points 3 days ago

Yes and my Mom would put fried breadcrumbs on top, I think there are these seasoned breadcrumbs from a box and you just fry em up. I really should look into it.

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HoneyMustardGas 38 points 4 days ago

The left one for sure. If it ain't baked, hit the breaks.

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SatansMaggotyCumFart 63 points 4 days ago

Itโ€™s my personal pet peeve when people right breaks when they mean brakes.

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HoneyMustardGas 42 points 4 days ago

I actually didn't know this homophone. Thank you for teaching me something today. I was beginning to think today was a waste but now I am fulfilled.

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SatansMaggotyCumFart 27 points 4 days ago

Iโ€™m always here to satisfy you.

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rhelawyn 11 points 4 days ago

Username checks out

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mech 11 points 4 days ago

Your spelling is actually really good for an orc.

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bonsai 20 points 4 days ago

right

Oh, the irony.

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SatansMaggotyCumFart 29 points 4 days ago

Whatโ€™s the write word there then?

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mech 16 points 4 days ago

Maybe look it up in a dictionary if you don't no.

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blarghly 8 points 4 days ago

*their

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sem 6 points 4 days ago

Them's the brakes

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unitedwithme 5 points 4 days ago

Same. Or who's and whose

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BoosBeau 2 points 4 days ago

Yeah but give them a brake, would ya?

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tlekiteki 29 points 4 days ago

Huh?

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Ilovethebomb 44 points 4 days ago

White people can't cook is the joke.

Honestly, seeing what some people call seasoning, they have a point.

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Alcoholicorn 33 points 4 days ago

It is generally true, due to a bunch of factors. Personally, I've observed 2 factors:

  1. a lot of culinary tradition was lost by the boomers and their parents due to the advent of mass-produced, packaged food and the Great Depression. A lot of very basic, holistic techniques like making broth, rendering fat, became less common as magazine recipes, refrigeration, and boxed food encouraged discrete "buy x y z for recipe A" instead of having an assortment of preserved veggies/meats, broth, lard from previous days etc, to work with and learn from. I was genuinely confused to find my dad had to teach himself a lot of it in his 20s and my mom never learned.

  2. Economic/cultural history. A lot of families didn't see making food better as worth sparing any effort or time on. My grandma's boiled veggies and potatoes, no seasoning, and meat fried in a pan, no sesoning, eaten and cleaned up as quickly as possible come to mind.

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Maeve 14 points 4 days ago

It depends on the location, honestly. A lot of country grannies can cook, because they depended on what they could provide for themselves, milk, eggs, butter, cheese, canning, freezing, smoking. A lot of sub/urbans couldn't do that and lost the art.

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taiyang 5 points 4 days ago

Can confirm 1, dad grew up on TV dinners and canned food; and somehow Grandma thought it was ok to add ketchup to make spaghetti sauce. That second one might be 2, too, actually.

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teslekova 2 points 4 days ago

Also, and in addition.

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Maeve 12 points 4 days ago

Man, it's gotta have 3 or more large eggs, a pound of block or hoop (not Velveeta) cheese, grated + some to go on top, and real butter. If it's not golden brown with crispy edges, it's not done. Even better if it has shrimp, crab, or lobster in it.

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ParadoxSeahorse 3 points 4 days ago

Like macaroni pie, I love breadcrumbs on top and just an ungodly amount of mature cheddarโ€ฆ literally by weight more than the pasta, and some milk!

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PP_BOY_ 6 points 4 days ago path: 0 24327089 24327136 24327457, hotness: undefined, score: 6, children: 3
panda_abyss 5 points 4 days ago

That was annoying but correct

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bequirtle 4 points 4 days ago

dear god the comment section โ˜ข๏ธ

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unitedwithme 3 points 4 days ago path: 0 24327089 24327136 24327457 24328152, hotness: undefined, score: 3, children: 0
rants_unnecessarily 2 points 4 days ago

American white people.

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Ilovethebomb 11 points 4 days ago

It's a running joke that the British refuse to season their food, this isn't just an American thing.

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fushuan 4 points 4 days ago

So french, Italian, Spanish, German, Lithuanian, and every other country I refuse to list (sorry if so left your out) don't count?

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Darnton 2 points 4 days ago

Ignorant bigotry does indeed exist in many places.

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somethingsnappy 0 points 4 days ago path: 0 24327089 24327136 24328146, hotness: undefined, score: 0, children: 2
Darnton 4 points 4 days ago

Technically, the roots of mac and cheese can be traced as far as medieval Italy, but in the same way that Italian noodles were born in China.

Yeah, because Italian "noodles" weren't born in China. That is a myth that has long since been busted.

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ohulancutash 1 point 3 days ago

Mac and Cheese originated in medieval England anyway.

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kryptonianCodeMonkey 21 points 4 days ago

I make it my goal in life to defy the white people can't cook stereotype. My wife's family is the epitome of this, so I'm the designated chef for a lot of our family dinners. My Mac n Cheese is stupid good though.

Freshly grated cheeses (sharp cheddar, gruyere/fontina, smoked gouda, parmigiano reggiano) and a bit of American for that sodium citrate emulsifying power, melted into a piping hot beschemel with Dijon, mustard powder, paprika, a pinch of thyme, and a hit of cayenne. Mix in some drained elbow or penne pasta, cooked to just al dente in well salted water, in a baking dish. Depending on my mood/desire for texture, either top with reserved cheese or some seasoned, buttered, well-crushed Ritz crackers. Bake until browned nicely.

Been making Mac like this for a few years and it is regularly the favorite of the meal. Gotta use a variety of cheeses that give you strong cheesy flavor, creaminess, smokiness and nuttiness. The mustard is also important to cut the richness of the cheese.

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calcopiritus 2 points 3 days ago

Who said that white people can't cook?

French and italian food is generally regarded as good.

The stereotype is usually that the British can't cook.

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kryptonianCodeMonkey 3 points 3 days ago

There's a common stereotype that white Americans don't use seasoning or cook from scratch. And that's not exactly unfounded. I've known plenty that cook this way.

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SpookyBogMonster 2 points 3 days ago

I make it my goal in life to defy the white people can't cook stereotype.

The most delicious way to be a race traitor o7

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kryptonianCodeMonkey 4 points 3 days ago

If there's a race war, I'mma be on the side with the seasoning. Gumbo, bbq, jerk chicken, greens... I'll leave you guys the tuna casseroles and cobb salad.

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Septimaeus 1 point 3 days ago

God damn. You win potluck.

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kryptonianCodeMonkey 1 point 3 days ago

Am I invited to the proverbial cookout?

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ramenshaman 1 point 4 days ago

Damn. I'm diabetic and on a low carb diet. I've been wanting to try and make a cauliflower version of Mac and cheese and your comment makes me want to try it even more.

I miss carbs ๐Ÿ˜ญ

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kryptonianCodeMonkey 4 points 3 days ago

You'd need to replace the bechemel to eliminate the carbs in the flour. You can make a similar sauce with butter, cream cheese, heavy cream, chicken broth, and an egg yolk. It will taste a bit cheesier than typical beschemel, but that is hardly problem for mac n cheese. And the wheat pasta needs to be changed out, obviously. You could always get low carb pasta, or just replace the mac entirely. The sauce would go great on some steamed/roasted veggies too. Like broccoli or cauliflower, green beans, mushrooms, etc.

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ramenshaman 1 point 3 days ago

Thanks for the tips. How much flour is in there? Small amounts of carbs is ok, it's unavoidable, really. I've had some decent low-carb pastas.

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kryptonianCodeMonkey 2 points 3 days ago

For the recipe I use, it calls for equal parts, 4 tbsp (1/4 cup), butter and flour and 2.5 cups milk. Which is 23-24 gram of carbs from the flour and 28-30 grams from the milk.

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fleebleneeble 19 points 4 days ago

I fuck with both macs. I will say though, I'm noticing there are no (apparent / obvious) spices/herbs.

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GroundedGator 1 point 3 days ago

Add some raisins, it will be fine.

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fleebleneeble 2 points 3 days ago

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procapra 11 points 4 days ago

...i don't like mac and cheese bakes. I'm so sorry.

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smh 3 points 4 days ago

Same. I might be biased because my mom would get the frozen mac&cheese dinner and bake them, and the macaroni was always over done and grossly mushy. The cheese also tasted weirdly grainy.

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chuckleslord 4 points 4 days ago

"I ate a bad version of a dish, so I know I don't like that dish" is how that sounds

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smh 4 points 4 days ago

That's exactly how it is. If the first 10 times you have baked macaroni and cheese it's awful, you're not going to want to try it again.

I also don't like baked apples because I was violently ill after eating apple crumble once. Same with grape Smirnoff Ice.

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SuperSpruce 11 points 3 days ago

I don't know why I think this way, but the left image looks too hot to eat while the right image looks too cold for it to taste good.

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pachrist 10 points 4 days ago

Just so everyone here knows, these pictures do not need to be mutually exclusive. You can do both.

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dharmacurious 8 points 4 days ago

Baked Mac and cheese is the only Mac and cheese. I miss my mom's so fucking much it's crazy. I can make it, but nobody made it like her.

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KuroiKaze 5 points 4 days ago

Every single time someone tells me they put their heart and soul into something like the left one full of ingredients that sound magic,I take a bite and it's hella mid.

Dickeys BBQ makes the best version of the one on the right of any chain I've been to. Dip waffle fries in it for majesty.

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zod000 3 points 4 days ago

You can absolutely make baked mac like the left and have it be amazing, but I'm with you that most people don't make "proper home made" mac and cheese nearly as well as they think they do, even if the top looks ll delicious like in the pic. Coincidentally, the best mac and cheese I ever made looked like the right, but that was only because people were getting impatient so I decided to skip the baking part.

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pooberbee 4 points 4 days ago

I'd rather have macaroni salad. Mac and cheese is too formal for a picnic

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muusemuuse 8 points 4 days ago

What the uppity hell is formal about Mac and cheese?

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pooberbee 1 point 4 days ago

Mac and cheese requires utensils, while good macaroni salad is drinkable

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Zwiebel 6 points 4 days ago

wtf america explain

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JGrffn 2 points 4 days ago

Gringos come out with the wildest shit sometimes huh

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muusemuuse 2 points 4 days ago

...no?

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DarrinBrunner 1 point 4 days ago

You only need utensils for mac and cheese when it's hot, though.

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Lumidaub 1 point 3 days ago

That's most food.

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chunes 4 points 2 days ago

am i the only person who finds them both appetizing

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Soulg 3 points 2 days ago

Nope. Two different styles of making the same food

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webkitten 4 points 3 days ago

Ugh now I want macaroni and cheese

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muusemuuse 3 points 4 days ago

You need to get it with chicken or pulled pork in it. Mmmmmm

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RecursiveParadox 3 points 4 days ago

For the record I like no1 the best.

But what if I told you that you could make no2 in less than ten minutes with only three ingredients?

https://www.seriouseats.com/...

(if you slightly undercook this you could still bake, just add breadcrumbs, sprinkles of some hard cheese, and herbs on top of it and back for about 10 minutes on 180c/350f)

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remon 3 points 4 days ago

Not sure what a Juneteenth is, but everything is better when gratinated.

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stringere 8 points 4 days ago path: 0 24333748 24334523, hotness: undefined, score: 8, children: 0
Soggy 2 points 3 days ago

Joke's on you, I prefer cheese soup with noodles.

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Fizz 2 points 4 days ago

People dont put veggies in mac n cheese? Maybe im just coping hard.

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GingerGoodness 3 points 4 days ago

Dunno if I'm "people" but adding broccoli or cauliflower slaps.

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Fizz 3 points 4 days ago

I like mushroom, peas, carrot, corn and beans, onion also bacon

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AA5B 2 points 4 days ago

Dumb question but whatโ€™s the difference? As someone who grew up on the orange stuff from a box, and learned to make the one on the right in recent years, what am I looking for? Is the left just baked? Iโ€™ve done that. Is it a topping or spice that encourages browning?

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I_Has_A_Hat 7 points 4 days ago

Everyone shed a tear for this poor individual.

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FauxLiving 3 points 4 days ago

If you're making the one on the right using flour + butter-> brown -> Milk -> cheese then you're mostly there. You just slightly undercook the noodles before mixing in the cheese sauce and cover with shredded cheese and bake until the top browns. Some people will add panko/breadcrumbs for a bit of crunch.

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dream_weasel 3 points 4 days ago

I would absolutely make it this way with a roux to bake it. If I'm not baking it though you can for sure one pan it. Drain mostly cooked noodles, milk, butter, Velveeta, cream cheese, and a little bit of any other hard orange cheese you might have. Principally, this is I believe the main application for Velveeta besides queso and it's the star of Mac and cheese on the stovetop.

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FauxLiving 3 points 4 days ago

Velveeta is a lot safer in these kinds of recipes because it's less likely to clump if your roux/milk/cheese ratio is off.

However, you can just use the same cheat that Velveeta uses, a culinary emulsifier, to get the same results while also using high quality cheese. Traditionally the roux acts as an emulsifier but it's easy to have too much fats for the amount of roux that you've made so you get the clumping/grainy texture. Using sodium citrate you can just mix the cheese and milk directly without needing to make the roux. It's very convenient to just heat milk and put cheese in it without fussing with the roux.

Here's a recipe if you want to try it (spoiler: it's basically milk, cheese, sodium citrate):

https://modernistcuisine.com/...

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AA5B 2 points 3 days ago

Thanks, Iโ€™ll give it a try

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whoisearth 3 points 4 days ago

If I were there I'd invite you to the next cookout. The sleeper must awaken.

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ZILtoid1991 2 points 3 days ago

How do I make the left one?

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white_nrdy 4 points 3 days ago

Bake it in the oven

Edit: also use real cheese, not Velveeta or something. Use a nice cheddar.

This is a very good recipe https://www.bonappetit.com/...

After that, bake it in a casserole dish/dutch oven at like 400ยฐF for ~20m (maybe more). Keep an eye on it, bake it until it is nice and brown on top. My spouse and I also do 8oz of each cheese instead of the asymmetric amounts. Put panko breadcrumbs and parm on top before baking it to get a nice crunch.

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renrenPDX 4 points 3 days ago

It really depends on the recipe. The most basic is just regular mac and cheese with extra cheese on top and broil to color on top. Don't want to overdo it.

Some like having extras for toppings aside from cheese such as crackers, cheez-its, bread crumbs, or even hot cheetos.

Often times the mac and cheese mixture is fortified to enhance creaminess or help prevent breaking the sauce from the heat. This can be in the form of additional cheese folded in (grated cheeses or cream cheese chunks folded in, or including some sodium citrate like american cheese, velveeta, or granules to smooth out the cheese. Some recipes even call for addition of eggs before baking. There is a risk of over baking which can lead to noodles soaking up too much sauce which can lose the saucy texture and become dry, or end up breaking the sauce and end with an oily mess.

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sirico 2 points 3 days ago

Disregard healthy add a good cheddar or similar cheese grill for about 5-7 mins.

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sydd 1 point 3 days ago

Do Brits say grill instead of broil?

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sirico 2 points 3 days ago

Guess so bit of the oven that's open with the element on top. Good for making cheese toasties

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yermaw 1 point 3 days ago

Thats what broiling is? I assumed it was a method of boiling i was too uncheffy to understand. Also too lazy to look up.

Even now.

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Proprietary_Blend 2 points 3 days ago

It starts with six pounds of pig tails and two pounds of pork belly.

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Wirlocke 1 point 3 days ago

I don't know if this translates to mac n cheese but if you put things like frozen pizza in a convection oven/air fryer it comes out as if it was from a pizzeria.

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Danarchy 2 points 4 days ago

One of these is macaroni cheese and the other is not

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Signtist 2 points 3 days ago

The right one still looks plenty creamy. You could easily just bake it for a bit with some extra cheese and maybe some cracker crumbs on top, and it'd be just as good as the left.

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Starik 2 points 4 days ago

The one on the right is still good, and better for mixing with other stuff on the plate, like mashed potatoes and gravy.

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itsgroundhogdayagain 1 point 3 days ago

So the moral here is get baked on June 19th?

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ayyy 0 points 4 days ago

Haha racism funny ๐Ÿ˜†

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chloroken -4 points 4 days ago

Shut up, cracker.

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ayyy 1 point 4 days ago

Guess again.

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Lumisal 1 point 3 days ago

The coconut nut is a giant nut If you eat too much, you'll get very fat Now, the coconut nut is a big, big nut But this delicious nut is not a nut

It's the coco fruit (It's the coco fruit) Of the coco tree (Of the coco tree) From the coco palm family!

Ayayayayai

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BoxOfFeet 0 points 4 days ago

I love food, and cooking. But I will always take a big ol' scoop of #2.

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PattyMcB 0 points 4 days ago

Dum

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renrenPDX 0 points 3 days ago

Either way, I prefer Cavatappi over elbow mac if I had a choice in the matter. It holds on to the cheese soooooo well.

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wonderingwanderer -1 points 4 days ago

Is the joke that white people don't know how to bake macaroni and cheese? Because that's patently false and honestly kinda offensive.

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lightnsfw -1 points 3 days ago

The white people in my family certainly don't. They're all too busy trying bullshit recipes that use ingredients in unconventional ways which turn out terrible because if they weren't terrible those recipes would already be well known, or not knowing how to cook anything that doesn't come out of a box/freezer bag.

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wonderingwanderer 1 point 3 days ago

Yourself included?

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lightnsfw 1 point 3 days ago

No, i put in the minimal effort required to produce food that's actually good.

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wonderingwanderer 1 point 3 days ago

Okay well next time before generalizing your family as the entirety of white people, maybe stop to consider whether you're including yourself in that before posting it?

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