"We're all in this together"

a month ago by slaacaa to c/lemmyshitpost

homes 149 points a month ago

Yes, he’s a wasteful, elitist asshole, but still keep on recycling. Better yet, stop using plastic bottles (and other disposable plastic stuff) altogether, and get non-plastic, reusable bottles/containers, which you can refill. The best drink containers are thermally insulated, so you can put hot or cold drinks with ice in them, so they stay hot or cool for hours, and have drink spouts on them.

Edit: my personal recommendation would be IronFlask, but there are other quality brands that others here may recommend

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gex 63 points a month ago

Hank Green did a video inspired by a similar meme after the Blue Origin rocket explosion. He acknowledged that plastic recycling isn't great, but encouraged focusing on other materials like aluminium. The explosion released 825 tons of carbon dioxide, which is ~1% of the hourly emissions of the aluminum industry. The current amount of recycled cans in the US saves the equivalent to 15 rocket explosions of carbon every day.

So yeah, get a reusable container, and try using aluminum instead of plastic.

https://youtu.be/pXVmkurTOgM

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homes 35 points a month ago

yeah, and there was a recent expose about how, on top of the fact that most plastic recycling doesn't actually reduce overall pollution all that much, a huge amount of state and municipal recycling programs had been subsumed by some massive scam that just offloaded recycling waste to some 3rd-party program that eventually buried it all in landfills or dumped it somewhere anyway.

the real answer is to stop producing/consuming so much waste (especially petrochemical-based waste) in the first place and to live in more sustainable and less waste-producing systems.

Oh good allegory would be: stop taking all of those cholesterol and blood pressure medication’s, and just eat healthier and exercise more.

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Eq0 9 points a month ago

Absolutely. I also want to point out how in some places reducing plastic consumption is so much easier than in others.

Anecdotal: I now live walking distance from a “no plastic” shop that mostly refills your own containers -veggies, dried and liquid stuff… my plastic consumption is most weeks only the milk bottles. I used to live in many other places in which a life like this was hard or outright impossible.

Support local movements to allow you to not use plastic, reuse and refills containers, or get rid of them.

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LycanGalen 2 points a month ago

I 100% agree with your plastic statements. However, wanted to make a note that it is standard practice to put type 1 diabetics on a low dose blood pressure medication because it reduces wear on their kidneys, thereby reducing the risk of renal failure and other complications. Cholesterol meds are also prescribed proactively to people with a variety of chronic illnesses, particularly those related to heart health, who are often eating better than anyone here, but have higher risks of complications. Medications are tools amongst a variety of ways to help people live better lives.

All that to say, what choices you make about medications and their place in your health are completely valid for you. That doesn't mean your choices are applicable across the board. Please don't give medical advice on the internet. (A conversation about the importance of communities designed to encourage exercise, and easy access to affordable unprocessed/low processed food is a different thing from "don't take medications: everything can be cured by kale and a walk in the woods")

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carl_the_grackle 16 points a month ago

Heads up: your YouTube link tells shows your channel to everyone who clicks it. This is due to YouTube's new messaging feature, and how they set the default privacy settings to share your channel with everyone whenever you post a link. You need to remove everything from the ?is= onwards and also turn off the sharing feature if you don't want everyone on Lemmy getting your profile and the ability to YouTube chat with you

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boonhet 3 points a month ago

Thankfully my country has a deposit system for cans and bottles (except for strong alcoholic drinks for some reason. Beer has deposit, wine, vodka etc do not)

Most cans get recycled. There's even hobos looking in communal garbage bins for recyclable containers because although there's not a lot of money in it, it gets them what food banks don't.

I think most of Europe does this but in the rest of the world I'm not sure how much gets recycled or not

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Not_mikey 1 point a month ago

This is sometimes done on a state by state basis in the US. Execution varies between states too, some states have it so if you sell stuff in bottles and cans you must also be able to accept returns, whereas other states you have to take them to a special facility which no one does except the hobos you were mentioning.

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lechekaflan 1 point a month ago

but in the rest of the world I’m not sure how much gets recycled or not

Unfortunately some developing countries have problems with waste segregation and disposal, especially those with cultures where their packaging was then organic (paper bags, banana leaf wrappers, etc. for food) before being replaced by plastic-based packaging, so with little to no convenient places to dispose their trash properly, it ends up almost everywhere. That some balk at segregation, believing they don't want to be inconvenienced.

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Widdershins 12 points a month ago

I used one for some coffee and a few popsicles and all I got was coffee that tasted awful and had popsicle sticks floating around in it.

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homes 14 points a month ago

I suggest that you try the coffee and the Popsicles separately next time.

Also, not so great for Popsicles. Better for beverages, generally speaking.

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Fredthefishlord 12 points a month ago

Reduce first, then recycle, yes!

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homes 10 points a month ago

Reduce, Reuse, and recycle what is left when possible. But avoid, whenever possible, non-reusable containers in the first place, thereby reducing your overall footprint.

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Aceticon 1 point a month ago

Just avoid like the plague brands that sponsor World Cups.

I've been doing it since the last one in Qatar (because of the slave-like conditions for workers there) and am doing it for the current one also (because, well, mass-murdering Fascists supporting the XXI century version of the Nazis whilst they activelly mass-murder children because of the "crime" of not being White Jews).

As it so happens, a happy side effect is often that not consuming products of those brands (which are invariably large brands) means you produce less disposable stuff and/or consume more local products. You even end up saving money because you either stop consuming something that you don't actually need or you replace it with a store brand, and those are cheaper.

Win-win-win.

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homes 1 point a month ago

Just avoid like the plague brands that sponsor World Cups.

IronFlask, the brand I recommended, is not a sponsor of the World Cup.

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takeda 1 point a month ago

Better yet, stop watching fifa sponsored games and make sure you don't contribute anything to their revenue.

Although seems like that's impossible to a large number of people.

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homes 1 point a month ago

I don’t watch sports.

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takeda 2 points a month ago

My apologies I didn't meant to sound it was about you. I meant overall.

Every time there is world championship there are cries about FIFA corruption, human rights violation and the moment the championship stats all gets quiet everyone seems to be watching it.

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zr0 1 point a month ago

Only because of my infant, I was researching proper, reusable bottles. I came across Pura and also ordered one for me. I absolutely love it. Replaceable/interchangable parts, using nothing but stainless steel and medical grade silicone.

https://www.purastainless.com/

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nuko147 -1 points a month ago

Wouldn't be better if we all stopped recycling and demand the private Jets to be banned with exeptions?

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uriel238 126 points a month ago

Hank Green actually explained something optimistic after the Blue Origin rocket explosion (here on Youtube), that yes, there are big companies and big billionaires being superfluously wasteful.

But there are a lot of us recycling our bottles and cans, and when we collectively do this, it makes more of a difference than rockets going boom, and jetsetting billionaires.

Granted, we need to drastically reduce our ultra-wealthy for a vast myriad of reasons, but we do collectively make a big difference.

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Fredthefishlord 43 points a month ago

That's what posts like this miss--- collective action works, be it in collective bargaining, politics, or environmental action. It can be less effective than stronger actors, but it is still very effective. And often is more effective. People also miss that the average output of trash from middle class people is still a bit much.

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m0stlyharmless 4 points a month ago

Another point is that there are many areas where existing recycling and other environmentally friendly approaches can be greatly improved. For instance, the infinitely recyclable aluminum beverage cans are only recycled at around 43% in the US. Despite any wasteful practices by the ultra-wealthy, this is an area where everyone still must be diligent.

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skisnow 22 points a month ago

yeah I really fucking hate how this particular meme format seems to subtly imply we can just stop making an effort. Always downvote whenever I see it.

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NikkiDimes 13 points a month ago

Yeah, we could have a world in which we have ultra rich billionaires individually wasting that of a small nation on the regular and no one doing anything to try to offset it. I 100% get the defeatism, but it really does no one any good.

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Eyekaytee 1 point a month ago

Always downvote whenever I see it.

Glad there's... 12 of us :|

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huppakee 17 points a month ago

You're right, we can't afford to either only recycle all our bottles or only drastically reduce our ultra-wealthy.

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turtlesareneat 11 points a month ago

When you eat the rich, consider using an eco-friendly fuel

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Kraiden 2 points a month ago

There's only about 3400 billionaires in the world, and wood is a renewable resource, so we could burn the guillotines when we're done with them and still be carbon neutral!

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Avicenna 3 points a month ago

yes and no. be a good person do your bit but don't forget to hold billionaires accountable (with more fervour than just a "yes but") because they waste resources and fuck up the environment 1000 times more than an average individual and have no qualms about it. Nay they enjoy it and sometimes they even try to capitalize on it by acting as if they are on the team green (Taylor Swift). parasites are gonna parasite.

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some_designer_dude 105 points a month ago

The data shows that we should be recycling the rich into fertilizer.

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Napster153 4 points a month ago

Feed the CIWS turret.

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Dpek 2 points a month ago

Spamraam

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CanadianCarl 66 points a month ago path: 0 24752477, hotness: undefined, score: 66, children: 21
khannie 42 points a month ago

For a minute I thought it was Torvalds and was highly confused.

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GreenCrunch 14 points a month ago

How do you think all the commits get reviewed? He's got to pick them up!

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ILikeBoobies 7 points a month ago

Yeah, I don't think the guy linked is famous enough to not have the "YouTuber" qualifier.

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BackgrndNoize 20 points a month ago

What the hell do they need a private jet for, that has to be a ego purchase, also they have the money for this but not for taking care of their employees, especially the ones getting harassed, I unsubscribed to their channel when they dropped that fake apology video with Advertisement, cant believe they are still profitable

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iamthetot 9 points a month ago

Everything Linus buys seems like an ego purchase.

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CanadianCarl 6 points a month ago

It's basic girl math.

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BackgrndNoize 5 points a month ago

Love that Canadian south park character of Linus lol

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Tollana1234567 1 point a month ago

i glance several thumbnails of his former employees that basically complained about him, although some of them thought they were getting ahead in thier industry/field by working for him.

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AbsolutelyClawless 18 points a month ago

I haven't watched LTT in a long time (basically ever since it was publicly obvious the money got to his head and everything that comes with ego), so when I saw somewhere he bought a jet, I first thought it was April Fools. Then after a short research I realized he's for real. My partner, on the other hand, was convinced I fell for it, and it took me a while to prove him otherwise.

Absolutely wild what Linus managed to convince (some of?) his fanboys. People will suck off filthy rich assholes like it's their job.

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CanadianCarl 5 points a month ago path: 0 24752477 24754974 24758034, hotness: undefined, score: 5, children: 1
AbsolutelyClawless 4 points a month ago

Funny how he finally managed to buy his own place after ditching LTT. Just another proof how much wealth the rich are extracting from us.

(PS: no severance package after working for so long for LTT is such a dick move)

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Tollana1234567 1 point a month ago
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AbsolutelyClawless 1 point a month ago

Not entirely sure what the point of your comment is.

However, most influencers/"content creators" aren't wealthy. Only the top of the top. I can't tell you the percentage, but I know for a fact many of them are compensated only in paid travel and accommodation when traveling to promote whatever they're paid to promote. They don't get actual money. I know because there's an influencer in my partner's extended family who was pushed into the "business" very young by their parent.

There are also many who earn just enough as if they were working a regular 9-5 job. And if their viewership drops — which it usually does — they're fucked.

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pineapplelover 11 points a month ago

Bruh wtf TIL LTT has a private jet

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Tollana1234567 1 point a month ago

i felt the controversy last year or the year before, made him even more money. he was definitely panicking after that happened.

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CanadianCarl 1 point a month ago

People on youtube defend him for it.

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skisnow 11 points a month ago

Is there a word, possibly German, for when you discover that the person you got douchey vibes off for years but couldn't quite pin down why, is revealed to be exactly what you suspected? I just had flashbacks to Will Smith at the Oscars.

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bravesentry 20 points a month ago

There is not, at least in german. But german offers us the possibility of making one. I´ll use the Zangendeutsch for douche, "Dusche", then "Verdacht" for the suspicion, "Bestätigung" for its revelation as true and "Moment" which is german for, well, moment. Put in some suffixes (-en and -s) for grammatical reasons et voila: Duschenverdachtsbestätigungsmoment, a brand new german word meaning "the moment of the confirmation of the suspicion of the douche".

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skisnow 4 points a month ago

bless you for that

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kilgore_trout 9 points a month ago

LTT has always been a techbro, surrounded by other techbros.

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Eyekaytee 2 points a month ago

Is that him using his jet or is it like a rented jet where other people use it when he doesn't?

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schnokobaer 45 points a month ago

Today I feel environmentally conscious

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PlaidBaron 23 points a month ago

Flying is truly one of the worst things an individual can do, carbon emissions-wise. These rich fucks practically fly their private jets to their backyard pools.

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Bonsoir 14 points a month ago

Achtually, a gas-powered car isn't that far from an airplane in terms of CO2 emission per kilometer per person. But planes allow for long distance travels that you would never consider doing by car. It also depends how many people are in the car. Planes also produce more non-CO2 pollutants.
If you were to choose between driving X km alone in your car or take a plane to the same destination, both options' environmental impact would be quite close. But with carpooling, the car rapidly becomes a less bad option.

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PlaidBaron 20 points a month ago

Private jets are more my concern here. Basically transporting a handful of people at best at an unreasonable energy cost.

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amorpheus 1 point a month ago
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Tollana1234567 2 points a month ago

or to get coffee,or lunch, or fly thier pets.

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ExLisper 39 points a month ago

So here's the thing: when the next heatwave hits it's not Infatino's kids that will sit in a 40 degree classroom and cry for their moms, your kids will. When the next forest fire razes some village it's not Infatino that will be left homeless, you will. When drought hits they will not cut water to Inantino's home, they will cut your water.

Infantino doesn't care about his carbon footprint because whatever happens he will be fine. It's all of us, poor people, that will suffer the consequences. Not limiting your emissions because "the rich are not doing their part" will only hurt you, not the rich.

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slaacaa 14 points a month ago

So we should hurt the rich? I could get behind that

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ExLisper -9 points a month ago

Yes, go for it. They have huge resources they can spend on security and the state will protects them with everything they have but I'm sure you, ordinary citizen, can "hurt" them. And once they are "hurt" they will voluntarily relinquish their wealth and power and start working with you to stop climate change. I'm sure of it.

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IAMgROOT 9 points a month ago

we got 8 hour workdays because we bust into their homes and looted them and shot them in the foot

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ExLisper 2 points a month ago

Was it before or after they bought the government, got private armies and bunkers?

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FinishingDutch 12 points a month ago

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Dpek 1 point a month ago

The cannister leaked

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BeardededSquidward 36 points a month ago

There's not a thing you can do as an individual that will have near the impact of countering the wealthy gross over usage of resources and industrial pollution. It's a fools errand so don't try to guilt people who don't recycle.

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Washedupcynic 21 points a month ago

Once it became clear that a large portion of our recycled waste was just being sold and off shored to poorer countries, I stopped giving a fuck about recycling and stopped doing it. What I did start doing was doing everything I could to eliminate plastic from my life, or reuse what I did have until it broke.

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tmyakal 18 points a month ago

The old ad slogan was "Reduce, Reuse, Recycle" in that order because that's the best order to try for. If you don't need it, don't get it. If you do need it, try to use it multiple times. If you can't use it again, then try to recycle it. But the absolute best thing you can do is not get the thing initially.

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BeardededSquidward 3 points a month ago

Only a small percent ends up recycled and there's some plastics that it's cost prohibitive to recycle. Aluminum cans is another one I try not to introduce into my life as well. They have better margins for recycling but it's easier than plastic to not include into your purchase.

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Bakkoda 17 points a month ago

I've worked in manufacturing plants for the last almost 20 years. One packaging line will produce more waste in a day than you can hope to counter.

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wallabra 10 points a month ago

And that's just the packaging part!

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Bakkoda 9 points a month ago

I've seen a plant drain an entire towns water tower down to 12 inches. Not feet. Inches. They had to pay to truck in water. And all it was doing was running through a chiller and into the drain. Not even grey water.

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doingthestuff 4 points a month ago

Also, hey Europeans, please buy your grandma a little split unit AC to cool her room. It's not going to destroy life on this planet. But not buying it might kill your grandma.

Edit: and buy yourself one too.

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LwL 4 points a month ago

800 million people (so just the population of US, CA, and EU) doing small things can absolutely have a larger impact though. Rich bastards do have a vastly larger impact than individual normal people but using that to say "I don't have to do anything, the others are more at fault" is not helping anyone.

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Dpek 1 point a month ago

Also there are significantly less rich people

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kandoh 1 point a month ago

I agree that works for stuff like 'don't litter'. But recycling at scale is literally impossible and they knew this when they pushed plastics on us.

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LwL 2 points a month ago

Recycling is about more than just plastics. It is a bit funny to me how that has always been the main focus though given how afaik it's a lot less viable and/or useful than aluminium, cardboard, glass recycling.

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cecinestpasunecommunication 2 points a month ago

Nothing you can do will move the needle on climate until the billionaire class is exterminated. Their continued existence is an existential threat. By living they kill, kill today and take lives of those still inborn. By existing they forclose the future.

The great filter exists, and it has a name. Musk. Thiel. Gates. Rockefeller. Exterminate them, or they will exterminate all life.

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Rentlar 32 points a month ago

The heck is Infantino doing in Edmonton and Middle-of-nowhere, Ontario?

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BloodMuffin 61 points a month ago
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hypnicjerk 11 points a month ago

without more context, i seriously doubt he's on every one of these flights.

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IrateAnteater 7 points a month ago

And no flying to Toronto, Montreal, or Vancouver? I know for a fact he didn't drive there from the Webequie First Nation.

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lime 6 points a month ago

helping the separatists prolly

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someguy3 5 points a month ago path: 0 24750568 24752111, hotness: undefined, score: 5, children: 0
gex 5 points a month ago

Here's an actual article showing his flights, it makes more sense than flying to middle of nowhere ontario and middle of nowhere baja california

https://www.bbc.com/...

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plyth 1 point a month ago

Why are that fewer flights?

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Flames5123 2 points a month ago

He doesn’t even go to Seattle for the World Cup. I guess it’s too progressive for him.

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Tollana1234567 1 point a month ago

getting his head polished like bezos.

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Tartas1995 32 points a month ago

Let's add the flights of the teams. Let's ask if that is necessary.

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zbyte64 -2 points a month ago

If you're going to start counting shipping costs for the goods then you should compare thet to Amazon

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Blackmist 26 points a month ago

Can he at least travel by helicopter?

They're much more dangerous...

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Dpek 1 point a month ago

At least choose something that actualy fufills the purpose

The v22 ospray

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BigBoyShuanzee 26 points a month ago

I use paper straws, I can't get a bag at the supermarket to hold anything but I still have to pay for those bags.

These cunts get to keep wasting the earth. Yes I'm including Taylor Swift, Jeff Bezos, the heads of Microsoft, Adobe, HP and all the rest.

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remon 10 points a month ago

You should look up the fascinating technology of "reusable bags". I haven't bought one in years!

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BigBoyShuanzee 5 points a month ago

I shall relook into those bags I forget every time I go to the shops.

Maybe move on there mate..

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remon 3 points a month ago

Just remember the Tim Minchin song!

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BigBoyShuanzee 7 points a month ago

Ahahaha you're a big dickhead I like you.

If you're ever in Sydney we should get a beer and brutally insult each other.

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musicalphysics -3 points a month ago

Reusable bags take up more resources than using single-use plastic bags. You’d need to use the reusable bag for decades to make up for the additional resources to create that bag compared to single-use bags. Things slant even more towards plastic if you can use the bag more than once, like for a bathroom trash bag.

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cy888 1 point a month ago

Plastic bags get recycled into garbage bags.

Banning plastic bags means I have to BUY plastic bags for garbage

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musicalphysics 1 point a month ago

I didn’t argue for banning plastic bags. Using plastic bags for groceries is better for the environment than reusable bags.

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Buddahriffic 1 point a month ago

I've started just dumping out my smaller garbages into the bigger one instead of taking the bag out. My grocery bag collection is dwindling (makes me regret the times I decided I had enough and threw out a bunch). I'll probably end up having to buy liners at some point, but I intend to reuse them when possible. Or fuck it, maybe just use naked trash cans and just clean them from time to time.

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M137 21 points a month ago

Recycling is a very local thing, do it instead of leaving the bottle somewhere it can end up in nature. It's also just a good and nice thing, same as minimising your plastic use, eating less meat (or ysing any products with animalistic ingredients etc.), buying as much as you can second hand or from companies that specifically go for longevity, natural and ecological ingredients, sustainability and so on.

The real choices are what brands you buy from. Never give money to any company that has any connection to people like this.

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MidsizedSedan 18 points a month ago

Today, work machine gave me suggestions for how the be eco friendly. (Turning off screen after 5 minutes. Sleep mode after 15 minutes)

All I can think of is how much Microsoft CAN invest in eco mode, but chooses money (or the hope of money in AI) instead.

also (More Microsoft hate)

Every time I'm back to work and forced to windows, I get a new problem. This popes up while reading emails

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Frenchgeek 5 points a month ago

Did it specify "of unactivity" or did they radically reduce your work hours?

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wallabra 2 points a month ago

Microsoft apps have been incredibly terrible at, uh, working, lately. Outlook periodically logs me out on its own for no reason. The mobile apps are especially shitty, at least on Android - they either crash/segfault themselves out right after opening, or they just stay stuck infinitely while futilely trying to log you in.

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altphoto 13 points a month ago

We recycled for that fuck to ride a flying chariot around the world.

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Bababasti 13 points a month ago

Sustainability for thee, not for me.

Also, some surprised-thunder-rat-moments here: https://ferw.eu/...

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MonkderVierte 11 points a month ago path: 0 24750907, hotness: undefined, score: 11, children: 0
cheese_greater 7 points a month ago

Every bit helps 💧🌊

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HrabiaVulpes 7 points a month ago

Poor people shouldn't segregate trash, shouldn't collect bottles etc.

Instead cheapest products should be biodegradable, wrapped in something that can't last shit, transported only by ships and trains. It's the companies who profit from selling products that should be held responsible for the product eco footprint.

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RememberTheApollo_ 6 points a month ago

Billionaires are the problem.

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wewbull 6 points a month ago

Now total it up for the event as a whole.

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hansolo 2 points a month ago

Probably right about 0.2⁰ C

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Zephyr 5 points a month ago

Unless any of you has a dope space station or starship we are indeed all stuck with one another here.

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homes 5 points a month ago

Earth is my dope space station, yo

/s

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Zephyr 2 points 22 days ago

Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there--on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.

The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that, in glory and triumph, they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot. Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of this pixel on the scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner, how frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds.

Our posturings, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position in the Universe, are challenged by this point of pale light. Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity, in all this vastness, there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves.

The Earth is the only world known so far to harbor life. There is nowhere else, at least in the near future, to which our species could migrate. Visit, yes. Settle, not yet. Like it or not, for the moment the Earth is where we make our stand.

It has been said that astronomy is a humbling and character-building experience. There is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another, and to preserve and cherish the pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known.

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homes 2 points 22 days ago

Miss ya, Carl ❤️

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Quilotoa 3 points a month ago

Where did he go in Ontario, Canada? The map has him landing in the middle of one of the least populated areas in N. America.

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lechekaflan 3 points a month ago

If he's just one, there are thousands or so using private executive transport, and these believe they would rather have a presence than trying to use something like Zoom.

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lama 2 points a month ago

Why was he going to Merida, Mexico so much?

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Zephyr 2 points a month ago

Just picking up some gifts

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blackshirt 2 points a month ago

So Qatar was way better every stadium is at a 30min drive distance

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