Without googling it, what is a rap scallion?

6 days ago by Pratai to c/asklemmy

Currently playing a video game and a NPC called me this. It’s a pre-boomer term as I’ve always known. So, I thought it’d be fun to see who gets close to the definition.

Based entirely on trust-

Without googling it, wtf is a rap scallion?

EDIT: For clarification, I know it means onery and rambunctious youth, but what is it derived from. Like the origin of the term.

gastroglizzy 58 points 6 days ago

A rake, a knave, a cur, a lout, a scoundrel.

As far as etymology, it's derived from "rascallion", the long form of "rascal", which itself is derived from the French term "rascaille", which refers to a mob.

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whotookkarl 26 points 6 days ago

A rogue, a ne'er do well, a persona non grata

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executivechimp 17 points 6 days ago

A bounder, a cad

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JustPlainDave 13 points 6 days ago

A hoodlum

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Aedis 7 points 6 days ago

Don't forget "a blackguard"

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resipsaloquitur 11 points 6 days ago

Roustabout rambler.

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MonkeMischief 2 points 5 days ago

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corsicanguppy 53 points 6 days ago

rap scallion

That's a hip-hop vegetable. You mean "rapscallion."

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Onomatopoeia 10 points 6 days ago

Dammit, beat me too it

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Maeve 12 points 6 days ago

Beet you to it

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Pratai 4 points 6 days ago

This joke- like sedimentary rock, has layers.

Misdirect FTMFW!

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ShellMonkey 29 points 6 days ago

A scallion, skilled in freestyle hip-hop

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MajorMajormajormajor 19 points 6 days ago

The notorious Sca.lli.on.

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pdxfed 8 points 6 days ago

Not to be confused with his cousin who smokes, the Rasp Ska lion

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gastroglizzy 5 points 6 days ago

Lil' Skallion, Skallionaire gang

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DomeGuy 15 points 6 days ago

Well, I'm pretty sure it's just one word for starters.

I've always read 'rapscallion' as a sort of youthful miscreant: an almost gender-neutral mildly negative label applied to a person lacking the wisdom of age who is engaged with some slightly rebellious activity.

The word died about the time of ww2, when most of those erstwhile rapscallions became war veterans or casualties.

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schipelblorp 6 points 6 days ago

Those rapscallions veterans would go on to accuse the the next generation of rapscallions of being punks.

Edit: Just checked if YouTube had a supercut of WIlliam Shatner's TJ Hooker calling kids "punk"", but alas: nothing.

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Pratai -1 points 6 days ago

Fair. But my wueseuj was to mean, why is it a bad thing? What is a rap scallion? Sort of one how “asshole” is a derogatory, and it’s… well, an asshole. No one wants to be one. So why is a rapscallion bad?

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DomeGuy 2 points 6 days ago

Most societies historically had some form of negative pressure applied to post-adolescents who refuse to accept adult responsibilities.

Of course, you said not to search so I'm just spitballing here.

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DomeGuy 1 point 6 days ago path: 0 26198328 26198543 26198637 26198689, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 0
Pratai 0 points 6 days ago

A good a guess as any. Though someone googled it… ☹️

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zd9 10 points 6 days ago

It's a type of onion that was especially stinky and hard to cook with, then it turned into an insult for rambunctious youth

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Pratai 0 points 6 days ago

This actually sounds true.

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yesman 9 points 6 days ago

it's a green onion, with flow.

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jobbies 4 points 6 days ago

A green onion that desperately wants to be red.

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OriginEnergySux 9 points 6 days ago

I got called this by an old guy back when i was a kid in the 90s. Im assuming it means cunt or something like that

Edit: Im in australia, everything means cunt at some point

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phlegmy 2 points 6 days ago

I think it's closer to 'cheeky cunt' on the 'sick cunt' to 'dog cunt' scale.

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Pratai 1 point 6 days ago

LMAO!

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MajorMajormajormajor 8 points 6 days ago

A ne'er-do-well scalliwag of the utmost miscreant order.

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Pratai 1 point 6 days ago

I mis-asked the question. I mean, the origin of the term. Like where did it come from?

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crapwittyname 1 point 5 days ago

My guess is that it descended from "rascal", or is closely related. I know a lot of French and some Spanish and Italian, and I don't think "rascal" appears in those languages, so it can't come from Latin/Greek. But, it doesn't sound Anglo Saxon or Germanic, so I reckon it might be Shakespearian, he introduced loads of new words like this.

Edit: I have just googled, I was mostly wrong. "Rascal" comes from Latin through old French, then "rapscallion" evolved in English in the 17th century to be able to add spoken emphasis. It's just easier to contemptuously spit "you rapscallion" than "you rascal".

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kbal 6 points 6 days ago

There was a travelling circus that had a lion, and during its performances they noticed it did much better if they played certain kinds of music. This lion was into rap and ska, so they called it rap-ska-lion and rapscallion describes its personality.

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Pratai 0 points 6 days ago

LMAO! We have a winner! I don’t care that it’s probably untrue. 😂

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DagwoodIII 6 points 6 days ago

One word. Rapscallion.

It's a general insult, like 'low life' or creep' or 'sleazoid.'

An untrustworthy knave.

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Pratai 0 points 6 days ago

Right, but… origin. How didn’t come to mean that? What does it mean outside of the derogatory?

A scallion is an ocean fairing creature. So… what’s a rapscallion? And why is it bad?

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hakase 3 points 6 days ago

A scallion is a green onion. A scallop is an ocean-faring creature.

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Pratai 3 points 6 days ago

This is why one shouldn’t post on social media while on ADHD meds after not sleeping in almost 24.

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crowcore_explorer 6 points 6 days ago

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Unleaded8163 5 points 6 days ago

He's the vegan in a trio with the Rhymenoceros and the Hiphopopotamus.

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Quazatron 3 points 6 days ago

Their lyrics are bottomless.

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AnalogAllamma 4 points 6 days ago

A step above a skallywag.

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XiELEd 4 points 6 days ago

A mischevious youth.

"Damn hippies" except with a hint of "damn you kids".

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TryingToBeGood 4 points 6 days ago

Usually applied to a rambunctious and disobedient child.

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Pratai 0 points 6 days ago

I know that much. But what is it derived from is what I meant.

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AbouBenAdhem 5 points 6 days ago

If you’re looking for guesses about the etymology, I’m guessing it shares an origin with “rascal”.

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TryingToBeGood 1 point 6 days ago

Ah, got me there.

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jakemehoff11 4 points 6 days ago

I'm almost certain it's a fancification of the word rascal. Like some dude in 1750 said 'what's rascal short for?' and his quick witted friend said rapscallion and yada yada now it's a word.

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toomanypancakes 4 points 6 days ago

That's a green onion with hella flow, put them on the record.

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Pratai 0 points 6 days ago

I do not know what this means, but it sounds like you have a lot of conviction in it.

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aMockTie 4 points 6 days ago

Hella flow = A rapper or orator who is very proficient and makes it seem effortless.

Put them on the Record = They should be included on our upcoming album.

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starman2112 3 points 6 days ago

A rapscallion is a little stinker

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ivanovsky 3 points 6 days ago

Vegetable. Same family as pop-tatoes. Usually eaten with rock salt, though some people cooked them with ska-rrots and punkins.

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DeepDown 3 points 6 days ago
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blimthepixie 3 points 6 days ago

I always thought it was Rab Scalliron who was a famous Glaswegian prankster from the 1700's

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Pratai 0 points 6 days ago

Nah, you’re thinking of the guy that used to be funny in those Adam Sandler movies that is now a douchebag.

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Rhynoplaz 3 points 6 days ago

A rascal. Someone who causes mischief, but in a mostly harmless way. It's not evil and greed, that motivates them, it's more like trolling.

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slazer2au 3 points 6 days ago

A cheeky fucker

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nylo 3 points 4 days ago

someone who is so much of a rascal that they're being an onion about it

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stopforgettingit 3 points 6 days ago

A knave.

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Memnochian 3 points 6 days ago

It's an older generations punk onion.

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recentSlinky 2 points 6 days ago

Is it something like a bothersome/mischievous person?

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Pratai -1 points 6 days ago

Yeah. But what is it?

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recentSlinky 2 points 6 days ago

Ah i see. If I'm gonna guess:

Rap -> sounds like an older version of the word wrap. So to wrap something or something that's intertwined.

Scallion -> sounds like it relates to a specific group of people or maybe even a certain type of animal. Maybe a snake like animal (thinking scales).

Putting that together, it's a snake or snake like animal that wraps around you or others and it's a bother to remove.

Am close at all or I'm playing tennis when the game is super Mario?

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Pratai -1 points 6 days ago

Well, originally, I would have had no idea. However, someone googled it.

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Mantzy81 2 points 6 days ago

Someone who likes rapping but also ska and has a fursona of a lion.

Obviously.

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Pratai 0 points 6 days ago

A rapska’er if you will!

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fluffy_cloud 2 points 6 days ago
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Zensate 2 points 6 days ago

A dastardly sort of fellow

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aMockTie 2 points 6 days ago

For the origin of the word, I'm guessing it either has something to do with bad breath, or is a repurposed term from another language, likely mispronounced or misunderstood by English speakers.

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Pratai -1 points 6 days ago

Someone googled it. Thought would be fun, but I guess it’s over.

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aMockTie 2 points 6 days ago

I thought it was fun. After looking it up myself I learned: ::: spoiler Spoiler I was definitely wrong, but got one aspect partially right. Rascallian came from rascal, which was originally a French word (rascaile) for the "people of the lowest class, the general mass; rabble or foot-soldiers of an army" source :::

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Pratai 1 point 6 days ago

Close! Awesome job! I don’t think I’d have gotten anywhere near that. I was already confusing it with scallops. LOL.

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aMockTie 3 points 6 days ago

You may have just invented a new villain for Aqua Man, Rapscallopian, the heavily armored terror with unstoppable freestyling flow.

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hakase 2 points 6 days ago

People will have to scroll down to see their comment, so I think it will still be fun. :)

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Hello_there 2 points 6 days ago

a knave

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hakase 1 point 6 days ago
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measureyoucanpleasure 1 point 5 days ago

It's a kind of onion some rappers like to spin in their music videos. The tradition has evolved from spinning leek, common in other music genres.

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one_old_coder 1 point 6 days ago

Rap Scallion is a cook in Monkey Island.

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zd9 1 point 6 days ago

It's a type of onion that was especially stinky and hard to cook with, then it turned into an insult for rambunctious youth

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boydster 1 point 6 days ago

Deleted... oh no... I'm sorry I clearly can't follow instructions and the word nerd in me took over I AM SO SORRY!!

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aMockTie 3 points 6 days ago

Spoiler warning! If you searched wiktionary directly (or used Bing, DDG, etc.), you technically followed the letter of the rules, but certainly didn't follow their spirit.

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Pratai 3 points 6 days ago

Dude- The first sentence in the title man…..

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boydster 3 points 6 days ago

I'm sorry I clearly can't follow instructions and the word nerd in me took over I AM SO SORRY!!

I have the entire Wiktionary on my phone, offline, I use it constantly and had never even considered looking this word up. So, I mean, I didn't Google it, technically I didn't even use the internet or anything, but I definitely cheated (albeit accidentally)

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Pratai 1 point 6 days ago

It’s all good. No points were lost. 😂

And wait, you can put offline wiktionary on your phone?

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boydster 2 points 6 days ago

Yeah, it's an app called Aard 2 (pretty sure I grabbed it from Fdroid) and it can import database dumps from wiki-style sites, it's made me a big hit at parties as you can imagine. Now you can be, too!

Dictionary blobs you can choose from: https://github.com/itkach/slob/wiki/Dictionaries

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yermaw 1 point 4 days ago

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zd9 1 point 6 days ago

It's a type of onion that was especially stinky and hard to cook with, then it turned into an insult for rambunctious youth

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