Just a shot in the dark, you originally from Bergen County, New Jersey?
What changed that you didn't expect to change when you moved from one place to another?
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That always drove me crazy when I went to Germany. “Oops, forgot toothpaste”… wtf, nothing’s open. Guess my teeth will just rot.
Germany’s not even religious, what’s with the Blue Laws?
Germany’s not even religious, what’s with the Blue Laws?
It's actually interesting thing. In some countries the "stores closed on Sunday" is a religious thing, like in Poland. Stores used to be open but it was changed recently because the right wing government pushed for it and most people think it's so that people go to church more.
In Germany it was the other way around: all the stores were only opened Mon-Fri and closed early because everyone just assumed that people working in stores should work the same hours as everyone else. This led to terrible experience for the customers (everyone scrambling to do their shopping on Friday evening, right after work) so they slowly started extending the opening hours and finally allowed stores to open on Saturdays.
In Spain stores are closed on Sunday but again, not because of religious reasons but as "worker's rights" thing. One shopping mall near me tried to extend shopping hours on some days during summer and all the workers complained and threatened a strike. No one wants to work on Sunday here, they prefer to spend time with friends and family.
Germany is religious AF still. Officially not really, but its a deeply Christian country. Most holidays are christian ones (the ones that are not, are not religious). The "christian" party is still the biggest party (although that is changing, and their values are more "let's suck off the rich" than christian). In some cities (like cologne) no building bigger than the cathedral is allowed. There are more examples :)
It gets stricter the further south you go, where people are more religious. In bavaria shops close earlier and can't sell alcohol after a certain time either. Overall the country is quite religious though, and especially historically has been extremely so. And something like a sunday where almost no one has to work isn't without benefits, so it won't just go away. Even shops being open on saturday past early afternoon was something that was only allowed in the early 2000s iirc.
Nah. He woulda mentioned having to pump his own gas too.
Vancouver/Edmonton to Australia (Sydney then southwest Victoria).
It gets properly cold here - it's not hot an sunny everyday like they advertise to us overseas. Aussies also don't use insulation in their houses so having to deal with single digit temperatures inside the house makes me die a little everyday.
There are minimum standards....now. That builders and developers were dragged kicking and screaming to ("just throw another reverse cycle aircon on mate, she'll be right").
I've never lived in an insulated house. I've never lived more south than the subtropics and the coldest a house had been inside is 6 degrees C with a floor surface probably lower than that. The people down south have probably suffered more than me in some homes.
I've lived in Warrnambool and Ballarat. I can confirm first hand that air temperatures inside the house have reached 4C, and I could see my breath 😭
Yeesh. You win.
What was house constructed from? Outside temp?
Single digits in Celsius though, right?
Does it even still get to more than -12c/9f in the skiing towns over there?
Yes, Celcius. I haven't gone to any of the ski fields here, so I actually don't know. Haven't been paying attention.
Colder than Edmonton :?
Outdoors, I can deal with the -40C in low humidity no problem. In Australia (south/southwest), it feels so much colder. Maybe it's because you can't escape the cold unless you want to empty your wallet on heating bills (really expensive here). You put on your layers before you even get out of bed. :(
Sounds like youre in a poorly insulated dwelling. By comparison, I'm in a 14 year old apartment in Melbourne and hardly needed the heater this winter. Its got a heat pump air con / heater so heating / cooling not expensive
Might be. I've lived in a house in Warrnambool and a house in Ballarat, so no neighbours above, below or beside to help keep my unit consistent like I did in Edmonton.
I'm also not a builder or any tradie, so I'm not sure what the houses are really made of. I just know the noticeable differences between how I felt in houses and apartments in Canada vs houses in south/southwest Victoria.
I did live in an apartment in Preston for a short stint, and didn't use heating or cooling at all. It was lovely, sans the meth heads upstairs.
Surely not everyday. Just every day, right?
Wait what?
You should move to the Nordics, maybe Lappland? :D
When I moved from the west coast of Canada to the east coast, I was surprised how different the clouds and the sunrise looked. There are like, a lot more fluffy clouds, and the sunsets are more vivid across the entire sky.
The way it changed my mental perception of how far apart buildings are. I moved from North Carolina to Massachusetts, and distinctly remember that the first time I went back to visit the city I grew up in, I had a reaction along the lines of "wtf, did like a bomb go off here or something?" upon seeing it, because I'd become used to buildings being taller and closer together and suddenly by contrast the parking lots with scattered short buildings and wide roads reminded me of those pictures you see of cities after a war or disaster, where there'll be a few buildings relatively intact looking surrounded by flattened grey.
Every time I go back there now, I get a really eerie feeling because even though for the most part, the buildings haven't changed at all, the place feels as if they have, like everything has been squashed vertically and stretched horizontally.
Stopped drinking almost entirely, because moving also meant finding new friends (who prefer other activities than drinking).
Since physical places wasn’t specified, how much nicer the threadiverse (Lemmy) is compared to Reddit, way less toxic from my experience.
Eye contact / greetings between strangers
*in the USA
I'm originally from the south where everyone wears plastic smiles and waves in passing and all that.
Then I went to the northeast where it's more eyes on the horizon. A smile and a wave is met with a raised eyebrow or a sneer, and friends commonly show their comfort with each other using insults.
Then out to the midwest where zero eye contact gets you stared at, but heavy eye contact is taken as a challenge. It has to be just the right amount, and I'm still trying to figure it out after years.
Many people don't make eye contact any longer. Things have changed.
Here in NM, out on my walks around the neighborhood every day, I say either "good morning" or "hello" to everyone I pass, which varies from one to perhaps ten people per walk, 99% respond in same. It's not fake, it's just common courtesy to acknowledge other people. I see about half of them every day, and I know of two regulars who won't respond, so I don't say anything to them.
There was one guy who enthusiastically said "good morning!" every time for a couple of years, we even stopped and chatted briefly a couple of times. I didn't see him for an entire summer, then when I saw him again he wouldn't say hello. Then he started saying hello again, on his own. I don't push. Some people have a lot going on.
I don't know about "heavy eye contact is a challenge". At about 15 feet apart, walking toward each other look to make brief eye contact and say "good morning". By the time you've said the words, they're nearly past you, and they either respond or don't. That's all there is to it.
If I had friends who responded to a smile and a wave with a sneer, I think we wouldn't be friends for long.
My experience is in CO specifically and may depend on a lot more than my location. Just generalizing to try to meet the spirit of the question / story flow.
A good friend of mine who went on a similar nomadic journey settled in NM and said similar great things about it. I wish I could remember which city... one of the biggest ones?
The culture of right of way between pedestrians and cars. Where I grew up, you could walk out to the double yellow and stand there and cars wouldn't give a shit. They'd just keep driving and expect you to stay out of the way.
Now where I live, if you just glance at a car when you're walking they'll stop where they are to let you cross.
It all gets very confusing for a pedestrian when you also get out of town drivers that don't adhere to that same culture.
That annoys me when cars clearly have the right of way or stop before I'm even close to crossing the road. They could be already past by the time I get there, but they stop anyway. If you keep driving and I keep walking nobody will disturb the other.
Yeah it’s surprising how opposite it can be.
The other day I was walking my dog and I have to be careful to face away from the street because people keep stopping for us to cross when she’s just sniffing at something.
Then we actually did cross the street at an all way stop intersection, and cars came to a stop in all directions! However we got halfway across and a new car came around the bend and almost hit us. Despite the stop sign. Despite all other cars already stopped. Despite me and the dog in the crosswalk
It's more like what didn't change that I did expect. The rural midwest is still very hot, very right-wing (and far alt-right), and full of mosquitoes, much like the southern US. In fact, it's predicted the south will see more inches of snow and days of snow than the midwest this year.
'wow, tomatoes are a real thing!' :p
Let me tell you I can still look up pizza joints in my home town and the only vegetables they have for pizza are mushrooms, onions and peppers. The west coast lives different when it comes to food isn’t that what this post is about?
East coast: "Pineapple on pizza is an abomination!"
West coast: "Corn and avocado pizza, a fine choice!"
Moved from the south to the Midwest and my mouth still orders "unsweet tea". Some waitstaff have no idea what I mean.
If you don't specify in the south you get diabetea.
Order tea and a large glass of ice and pour (any type) of tea over the ice. Usually comes out room temp instead of iced however it's a great drink option at many restaurants that otherwise only have pop or juice to drink.
They do have iced tea in most places but if you ask for unsweet, they look at you like you're crazy.
What is unsweet tea?
The opposite of sweet tea.
So like, regular tea?
In the US many restaurants serve iced tea. In the south they make iced tea with way too much sugar in it, so if you just order iced tea they'll ask "sweet or unsweet".
Just how antisocial people can be, they often feel dead inside to me. Rarely smiling, very little low effort social interaction. It eats away at my soul.
The inaccessibility of anything in the DIY and construction side of life if you don't own a business in the industry. I was used to doing woodwork without the need for a table saw, now I can't get a simple piece of wood cut accurately without being a building contractor or having my own kitted out workshop. I loved working with aluminium and used to buy from suppliers, now it's inaccessible to me.
I'm half way on this, I was just talking to my buddy about this. The last three years I worked pretty much by myself and I think it took a toll on me. Though when I'm in Japan it's a strange paradox, I feel so comfortable. Maybe because the interactions are minimal and that's all I can handle after seeing 1-3 people a day.
I've spent most of my adult life alone, and those small social interactions are what pulls me through. Here you get looked at like there's something wrong with you if you greet someone when walking past them in the street.
Oh yeah I sort of get that. I was having a good evening going home to see my girlfriend, went to grab a few beers after work at the gas station and smiled at someone. The guy got pissed and said "what are you looking at removed?" I was like where did that come from. And I'm not scrawny or anything, especially compared to that shrimp.
God damn, at least where I live outward hostility is as frowned upon as any other social interactions.
How convenient places are near me. Where I was, I had to drive 45 miles out and back to get anywhere. Now for a while, everything is 5 - 10 minutes. Chump change for miles and yeah if I really do want to broaden my exploration, can go a bit further, but not when I need something as before.
That I need the same amount of time to the big city.
Distance to the city: 18 km -> 10 km Time to the city by train: 19 min -> 12 min Time to train station: 3 min -> 10 min
So much!
From The South and moved to the PNW.
Lack of thunder and lightning is crazy. Like I went from hearing it all the time to once or twice a year.
Being able to see snow on the mountains while it's over 60°F in the valley.
How there isn't any warm water occurring in nature.
You can't find Cuban bread in every grocery store.
Man, I have so many things that shocked me. And many still do, lol.
I want to move to the PNW so much.
One of the many things you have to do is find the many hot springs of the Pacific Northwest.
Some are warm water, some are downright boiling fucking hot.
When I moved from middle Connecticut to San Diego all the good Italian food was gone, yes there was sushi but no good Chinese takeout and holy shit forget about pizza. Cali pizza is nothing like CT pizza and I hated it. Don't even get me started on the mutant pile of stuff PA calls pizza.
Water bills. Moved from Williamsbrg, VA less than 10 miles down to the next city down, Newport News, and water went from like $30/mo to $100/mo (water+sewer+trash in aparment in both cases). Googling and it's apparently normal. Yeesh.
My relationship, bought a new house sold our old one and now it seems its slowly falling apart
Moved from Midwest to West to South. In the South, they use "How are ya?" as a greeting. I was not aware. So for the first few weeks/months, I was answering them honestly and just loving how friendly everyone was!
Took me a while to understand you're just supposed to say "Good-n-you?"
Felt like a fuckin idiot.
South to Midwest USA - the thunderstorms are less frequent, but way more violent. Also, cheese curds.
I don't live terribly far from where I grew up. I have seen so many snakes in my neighborhood. Growing up I knew what a snake was but never really saw any. I had to mow my lawn slower the other day because I saw two snakes in the grass.
When I moved from the Northwoods of Wisconsin to Los Angeles (Burbank), a lot of changes were to be expected... The one I didn't expect was the total lack of thunder n lightning despite rain storms that would flood the streets. I think I was out here at least 6 years before I heard any thunder and that was a one-time event. Been here for almost 29 yrs now, and I can probably count the number on one hand.
In the words of the great poet: wherever you go, there you are.
There are some things that can change. Some thigns can be measurably worse or better just based on various aspects of the place. However, if you're running from something, and that something is mostly or all you, nothing will have sustained improvement until you fix the 'you' part of that equation.
I moved around the US and later moved to Japan. I learnt this lesson the hard way. While moving to a place that fixed some things I hated about my life, the problems that were caused to me by me weren't helped until I worked on that part; it's still a work in progress.
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Stores are open on Sundays
Surprises me every time
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