What changed that you didn't expect to change when you moved from one place to another?

4 days ago by Interstellar_1 to c/asklemmy

lukstru 29 points 4 days ago

Stores are open on Sundays
Surprises me every time

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NOT_RICK 7 points 4 days ago

Just a shot in the dark, you originally from Bergen County, New Jersey?

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lukstru 13 points 3 days ago

Germany, where Sonntag ist Ruhetag

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baggachipz 6 points 3 days ago

That always drove me crazy when I went to Germany. “Oops, forgot toothpaste”… wtf, nothing’s open. Guess my teeth will just rot.

Germany’s not even religious, what’s with the Blue Laws?

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ExLisper 10 points 3 days ago

Germany’s not even religious, what’s with the Blue Laws?

It's actually interesting thing. In some countries the "stores closed on Sunday" is a religious thing, like in Poland. Stores used to be open but it was changed recently because the right wing government pushed for it and most people think it's so that people go to church more.

In Germany it was the other way around: all the stores were only opened Mon-Fri and closed early because everyone just assumed that people working in stores should work the same hours as everyone else. This led to terrible experience for the customers (everyone scrambling to do their shopping on Friday evening, right after work) so they slowly started extending the opening hours and finally allowed stores to open on Saturdays.

In Spain stores are closed on Sunday but again, not because of religious reasons but as "worker's rights" thing. One shopping mall near me tried to extend shopping hours on some days during summer and all the workers complained and threatened a strike. No one wants to work on Sunday here, they prefer to spend time with friends and family.

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lukstru 5 points 3 days ago

Germany is religious AF still. Officially not really, but its a deeply Christian country. Most holidays are christian ones (the ones that are not, are not religious). The "christian" party is still the biggest party (although that is changing, and their values are more "let's suck off the rich" than christian). In some cities (like cologne) no building bigger than the cathedral is allowed. There are more examples :)

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LwL 3 points 3 days ago

It gets stricter the further south you go, where people are more religious. In bavaria shops close earlier and can't sell alcohol after a certain time either. Overall the country is quite religious though, and especially historically has been extremely so. And something like a sunday where almost no one has to work isn't without benefits, so it won't just go away. Even shops being open on saturday past early afternoon was something that was only allowed in the early 2000s iirc.

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corsicanguppy 8 points 4 days ago

Nah. He woulda mentioned having to pump his own gas too.

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NOT_RICK 1 point 3 days ago

True, although I would hope you would expect that leaving the state

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StickyDango 20 points 4 days ago

Vancouver/Edmonton to Australia (Sydney then southwest Victoria).

It gets properly cold here - it's not hot an sunny everyday like they advertise to us overseas. Aussies also don't use insulation in their houses so having to deal with single digit temperatures inside the house makes me die a little everyday.

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Steve 12 points 4 days ago

Dont use insulation??

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SepticModular 3 points 3 days ago

There are minimum standards....now. That builders and developers were dragged kicking and screaming to ("just throw another reverse cycle aircon on mate, she'll be right").

I've never lived in an insulated house. I've never lived more south than the subtropics and the coldest a house had been inside is 6 degrees C with a floor surface probably lower than that. The people down south have probably suffered more than me in some homes.

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StickyDango 2 points a day ago

I've lived in Warrnambool and Ballarat. I can confirm first hand that air temperatures inside the house have reached 4C, and I could see my breath 😭

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SepticModular 1 point a day ago

Yeesh. You win.

What was house constructed from? Outside temp?

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OryxAndCake 3 points 3 days ago

Single digits in Celsius though, right?

Does it even still get to more than -12c/9f in the skiing towns over there?

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StickyDango 1 point a day ago

Yes, Celcius. I haven't gone to any of the ski fields here, so I actually don't know. Haven't been paying attention.

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skujcici7755 2 points 3 days ago

Colder than Edmonton :?

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StickyDango 1 point a day ago

Outdoors, I can deal with the -40C in low humidity no problem. In Australia (south/southwest), it feels so much colder. Maybe it's because you can't escape the cold unless you want to empty your wallet on heating bills (really expensive here). You put on your layers before you even get out of bed. :(

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skujcici7755 1 point a day ago

Sounds like youre in a poorly insulated dwelling. By comparison, I'm in a 14 year old apartment in Melbourne and hardly needed the heater this winter. Its got a heat pump air con / heater so heating / cooling not expensive

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StickyDango 2 points a day ago

Might be. I've lived in a house in Warrnambool and a house in Ballarat, so no neighbours above, below or beside to help keep my unit consistent like I did in Edmonton.

I'm also not a builder or any tradie, so I'm not sure what the houses are really made of. I just know the noticeable differences between how I felt in houses and apartments in Canada vs houses in south/southwest Victoria.

I did live in an apartment in Preston for a short stint, and didn't use heating or cooling at all. It was lovely, sans the meth heads upstairs.

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corsicanguppy -1 points 4 days ago

Surely not everyday. Just every day, right?

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devaly 19 points 4 days ago

moving from SA to Europe, I did not expect that I could feel hotter in Europe. I was naively expecting 4 months of snow coverage

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lukstru 26 points 4 days ago

Welcome to the continent that is heating up twice as fast as the rest of the world lol

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seitanasparagus 6 points 4 days ago

Wait what?

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lukstru 5 points 3 days ago path: 0 26233459 26233534 26235806 26240807, hotness: undefined, score: 5, children: 0
seitanasparagus 4 points 4 days ago

You should move to the Nordics, maybe Lappland? :D

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Interstellar_1 18 points 4 days ago

When I moved from the west coast of Canada to the east coast, I was surprised how different the clouds and the sunrise looked. There are like, a lot more fluffy clouds, and the sunsets are more vivid across the entire sky.

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CarbonIceDragon 15 points 4 days ago

The way it changed my mental perception of how far apart buildings are. I moved from North Carolina to Massachusetts, and distinctly remember that the first time I went back to visit the city I grew up in, I had a reaction along the lines of "wtf, did like a bomb go off here or something?" upon seeing it, because I'd become used to buildings being taller and closer together and suddenly by contrast the parking lots with scattered short buildings and wide roads reminded me of those pictures you see of cities after a war or disaster, where there'll be a few buildings relatively intact looking surrounded by flattened grey.

Every time I go back there now, I get a really eerie feeling because even though for the most part, the buildings haven't changed at all, the place feels as if they have, like everything has been squashed vertically and stretched horizontally.

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Broadfern 2 points 4 days ago

Opposite to you, going back home feels cramped and I miss being able to buy beer at the grocery store. Food’s always great though.

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kindnesskills 14 points 4 days ago

Stopped drinking almost entirely, because moving also meant finding new friends (who prefer other activities than drinking).

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taco_shale032 12 points 4 days ago

Since physical places wasn’t specified, how much nicer the threadiverse (Lemmy) is compared to Reddit, way less toxic from my experience.

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HeHoXa 11 points 3 days ago

Eye contact / greetings between strangers

*in the USA

I'm originally from the south where everyone wears plastic smiles and waves in passing and all that.

Then I went to the northeast where it's more eyes on the horizon. A smile and a wave is met with a raised eyebrow or a sneer, and friends commonly show their comfort with each other using insults.

Then out to the midwest where zero eye contact gets you stared at, but heavy eye contact is taken as a challenge. It has to be just the right amount, and I'm still trying to figure it out after years.

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TransNeko 4 points 3 days ago

you are getting sneers and glares from NorthEast USA because we hate fake pleasantries/smiles and southern nazis.

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ScoffingLizard 3 points 3 days ago

Many people don't make eye contact any longer. Things have changed.

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prole 2 points 2 days ago

Yeah people in the NE aren't rude, they just don't care to pretend when it comes to that kind of bullshit

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TrackenDaKracken 4 points 3 days ago

Here in NM, out on my walks around the neighborhood every day, I say either "good morning" or "hello" to everyone I pass, which varies from one to perhaps ten people per walk, 99% respond in same. It's not fake, it's just common courtesy to acknowledge other people. I see about half of them every day, and I know of two regulars who won't respond, so I don't say anything to them.

There was one guy who enthusiastically said "good morning!" every time for a couple of years, we even stopped and chatted briefly a couple of times. I didn't see him for an entire summer, then when I saw him again he wouldn't say hello. Then he started saying hello again, on his own. I don't push. Some people have a lot going on.

I don't know about "heavy eye contact is a challenge". At about 15 feet apart, walking toward each other look to make brief eye contact and say "good morning". By the time you've said the words, they're nearly past you, and they either respond or don't. That's all there is to it.

If I had friends who responded to a smile and a wave with a sneer, I think we wouldn't be friends for long.

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HeHoXa 1 point 3 days ago

My experience is in CO specifically and may depend on a lot more than my location. Just generalizing to try to meet the spirit of the question / story flow.

A good friend of mine who went on a similar nomadic journey settled in NM and said similar great things about it. I wish I could remember which city... one of the biggest ones?

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wieson 3 points 3 days ago

South, northeast and midwest of the USA

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HeHoXa 3 points 3 days ago

Yes. I debated whether I should specify or if it'd sound dumb / be obvious.

Now I see I should have, since I made Rothe sad

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Rothe 1 point 3 days ago

The amount of US defaultism on lemmy saddens me. I thought I had mostly left that behind on reddit those years ago.

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chunes 10 points 4 days ago

I didn't expect the trees to scream at me

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Broadfern 8 points 4 days ago

Summer cicadas?

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chunes 5 points 3 days ago

Yup.

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treadful 10 points 3 days ago

The culture of right of way between pedestrians and cars. Where I grew up, you could walk out to the double yellow and stand there and cars wouldn't give a shit. They'd just keep driving and expect you to stay out of the way.

Now where I live, if you just glance at a car when you're walking they'll stop where they are to let you cross.

It all gets very confusing for a pedestrian when you also get out of town drivers that don't adhere to that same culture.

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Erusset 9 points 3 days ago

That annoys me when cars clearly have the right of way or stop before I'm even close to crossing the road. They could be already past by the time I get there, but they stop anyway. If you keep driving and I keep walking nobody will disturb the other.

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treadful 3 points 3 days ago

Yeah, I'm a little torn between both sides. It can be more efficient when cars take the right of way, but pedestrian safety is absolutely more important than efficiency.

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AA5B 4 points 3 days ago

Yeah it’s surprising how opposite it can be.

The other day I was walking my dog and I have to be careful to face away from the street because people keep stopping for us to cross when she’s just sniffing at something.

Then we actually did cross the street at an all way stop intersection, and cars came to a stop in all directions! However we got halfway across and a new car came around the bend and almost hit us. Despite the stop sign. Despite all other cars already stopped. Despite me and the dog in the crosswalk

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gastroglizzy 9 points 4 days ago

It's more like what didn't change that I did expect. The rural midwest is still very hot, very right-wing (and far alt-right), and full of mosquitoes, much like the southern US. In fact, it's predicted the south will see more inches of snow and days of snow than the midwest this year.

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Duchess 13 points 4 days ago

I moved from coast to coast as a kid and ordered a pizza with ‘ everything on it!’ and it came with whole slices of tomatoes on it and that blew my fucking mind

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wreckedcarzz 2 points 4 days ago

'wow, tomatoes are a real thing!' :p

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Duchess 13 points 4 days ago

Let me tell you I can still look up pizza joints in my home town and the only vegetables they have for pizza are mushrooms, onions and peppers. The west coast lives different when it comes to food isn’t that what this post is about?

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Quetzalcutlass 7 points 4 days ago

East coast: "Pineapple on pizza is an abomination!"

West coast: "Corn and avocado pizza, a fine choice!"

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statler_waldorf 8 points 3 days ago

Moved from the south to the Midwest and my mouth still orders "unsweet tea". Some waitstaff have no idea what I mean.

If you don't specify in the south you get diabetea.

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Bubbaonthebeach 1 point 2 days ago

Order tea and a large glass of ice and pour (any type) of tea over the ice. Usually comes out room temp instead of iced however it's a great drink option at many restaurants that otherwise only have pop or juice to drink.

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statler_waldorf 1 point 2 days ago

They do have iced tea in most places but if you ask for unsweet, they look at you like you're crazy.

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Interstellar_1 1 point 3 days ago

What is unsweet tea?

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Interstellar_1 4 points 3 days ago

So like, regular tea?

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statler_waldorf 5 points 3 days ago

In the US many restaurants serve iced tea. In the south they make iced tea with way too much sugar in it, so if you just order iced tea they'll ask "sweet or unsweet".

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Kolanaki 8 points 3 days ago

I walk a lot more now that the nearest store is across the street and not 3 miles away.

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KyuubiNoKitsune 7 points 3 days ago

Just how antisocial people can be, they often feel dead inside to me. Rarely smiling, very little low effort social interaction. It eats away at my soul.

The inaccessibility of anything in the DIY and construction side of life if you don't own a business in the industry. I was used to doing woodwork without the need for a table saw, now I can't get a simple piece of wood cut accurately without being a building contractor or having my own kitted out workshop. I loved working with aluminium and used to buy from suppliers, now it's inaccessible to me.

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myyass 3 points 2 days ago

I'm half way on this, I was just talking to my buddy about this. The last three years I worked pretty much by myself and I think it took a toll on me. Though when I'm in Japan it's a strange paradox, I feel so comfortable. Maybe because the interactions are minimal and that's all I can handle after seeing 1-3 people a day.

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KyuubiNoKitsune 2 points 2 days ago

I've spent most of my adult life alone, and those small social interactions are what pulls me through. Here you get looked at like there's something wrong with you if you greet someone when walking past them in the street.

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myyass 2 points 2 days ago

Oh yeah I sort of get that. I was having a good evening going home to see my girlfriend, went to grab a few beers after work at the gas station and smiled at someone. The guy got pissed and said "what are you looking at removed?" I was like where did that come from. And I'm not scrawny or anything, especially compared to that shrimp.

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KyuubiNoKitsune 3 points 2 days ago

God damn, at least where I live outward hostility is as frowned upon as any other social interactions.

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Toasticus 7 points 3 days ago

How convenient places are near me. Where I was, I had to drive 45 miles out and back to get anywhere. Now for a while, everything is 5 - 10 minutes. Chump change for miles and yeah if I really do want to broaden my exploration, can go a bit further, but not when I need something as before.

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Triumph 6 points 4 days ago

When we moved into a new house some years ago, there were only rabbits and no squirrels. The squirrels have since moved in.

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Rothe 2 points 3 days ago

Which country has such fabulous rabbit and squirrel populated houses?

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seitanasparagus 5 points 4 days ago

That I need the same amount of time to the big city.

Distance to the city: 18 km -> 10 km Time to the city by train: 19 min -> 12 min Time to train station: 3 min -> 10 min

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Goldholz 5 points 2 days ago

Losing my job. I moved closer to work. (That wasnt the goal. It was just coincidental)

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mbp 5 points 2 days ago

So much!

From The South and moved to the PNW.

Lack of thunder and lightning is crazy. Like I went from hearing it all the time to once or twice a year.

Being able to see snow on the mountains while it's over 60°F in the valley.

How there isn't any warm water occurring in nature.

You can't find Cuban bread in every grocery store.

Man, I have so many things that shocked me. And many still do, lol.

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Balldowern 4 points 2 days ago

I want to move to the PNW so much.

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mbp 1 point 2 days ago

Do it! Such a good decision

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Mycatiskai 4 points 2 days ago

One of the many things you have to do is find the many hot springs of the Pacific Northwest.

Some are warm water, some are downright boiling fucking hot.

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mbp 1 point 2 days ago

Yes! My partner and I wanna go to Bagby soon. I forgot to exclude them from the no hot water thing lol

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Crozekiel 5 points 3 days ago

I moved 100 miles, from one city to another in the same US state. Now I can't find good chinese food to save my life... Panda Express is unfortunately the best I can find.

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mbp 2 points 2 days ago

Realizing there's no good Chinese food in your area is a soul crushing experience

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xav 4 points 2 days ago

Went living in a small village at 1000m altitude. Despite it's colder here, I no longer cough for months around winter.

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Zedd_Prophecy 4 points 2 days ago

When I moved from middle Connecticut to San Diego all the good Italian food was gone, yes there was sushi but no good Chinese takeout and holy shit forget about pizza. Cali pizza is nothing like CT pizza and I hated it. Don't even get me started on the mutant pile of stuff PA calls pizza.

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Jg1 1 point 2 days ago

There are a few good pizza places in San Diego, but not many. Bronx Pizza on Washington Street in Hillcrest is with trying if you haven't yet.

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daychilde 4 points 4 days ago

Water bills. Moved from Williamsbrg, VA less than 10 miles down to the next city down, Newport News, and water went from like $30/mo to $100/mo (water+sewer+trash in aparment in both cases). Googling and it's apparently normal. Yeesh.

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Aussiemandeus 4 points 2 days ago

My relationship, bought a new house sold our old one and now it seems its slowly falling apart

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jpreston1986 4 points 3 days ago

Moved from Midwest to West to South. In the South, they use "How are ya?" as a greeting. I was not aware. So for the first few weeks/months, I was answering them honestly and just loving how friendly everyone was!

Took me a while to understand you're just supposed to say "Good-n-you?"

Felt like a fuckin idiot.

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Janx 2 points 3 days ago

How's it going?

It's fucking stupid, though I do the same thing.

Well, hang in there...

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stringere 2 points 2 days ago

Keep on keepin' on.

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BaroqueBobby 3 points 2 days ago

South to Midwest USA - the thunderstorms are less frequent, but way more violent. Also, cheese curds.

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Widdershins 3 points 3 days ago

I don't live terribly far from where I grew up. I have seen so many snakes in my neighborhood. Growing up I knew what a snake was but never really saw any. I had to mow my lawn slower the other day because I saw two snakes in the grass.

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crenquis 2 points 3 days ago

When I moved from the Northwoods of Wisconsin to Los Angeles (Burbank), a lot of changes were to be expected... The one I didn't expect was the total lack of thunder n lightning despite rain storms that would flood the streets. I think I was out here at least 6 years before I heard any thunder and that was a one-time event. Been here for almost 29 yrs now, and I can probably count the number on one hand.

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farmgineer 1 point a day ago

In the words of the great poet: wherever you go, there you are.

There are some things that can change. Some thigns can be measurably worse or better just based on various aspects of the place. However, if you're running from something, and that something is mostly or all you, nothing will have sustained improvement until you fix the 'you' part of that equation.

I moved around the US and later moved to Japan. I learnt this lesson the hard way. While moving to a place that fixed some things I hated about my life, the problems that were caused to me by me weren't helped until I worked on that part; it's still a work in progress.

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