Why do so many people comment and then delete their message?

2 days ago by Pratai to c/asklemmy

I know this is a thing on Reddit where idiot kids will circumvent ToS and subreddit rules by deleting their commment because it remains as a notification, while removing any reportable trace, but that’s not how Lenny works. Deleted comments show that a person commented but does not show they comment.

So, why is this so common?

(If this isn’t the place to ask, my apologies. I just don’t know what the right pace to ask it is if this isn’t the one. Also. I’m blocking all the clowns that think it’s funny to comment and delete.)

Snowclone 108 points 2 days ago

sometimes I say something dumb then realize it's dumb.

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Voroxpete 18 points 2 days ago

Doesn't even have to be something dumb. Sometimes I write a comment, post it, and then think "Do I really want to get involved in this?"

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renrenPDX 5 points 2 days ago

I usually get to that point after writing but just before posting.

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Pratai 13 points 2 days ago

And that makes sense, however, it seems to happens way to frequently.

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chiliedogg 53 points 2 days ago

I'm pretty dumb.

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hitmyspot 5 points 2 days ago

And funny

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mesamunefire 1 point 2 days ago

Hey thats me!

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EvilFonzy 51 points 2 days ago
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Duchess 23 points 2 days ago

😂

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Today 43 points 2 days ago

Sometimes mine spins and then posts twice. Sometimes i realize that I'm replying to the wrong comment. Sometimes the typos and autocowrongs are so bad that it's unintelligible. Sometimes the written words don't come across the way i intended. 🤷

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Pratai 1 point 2 days ago

I get that. But I think the frequency of it lends to it being more than just that. It happens a lot.

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wieson 6 points 2 days ago

Do let me be a bit provocative here: why did you pose the question if you don't accept the answers?

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Pratai 2 points 2 days ago

How have I not accepted the answers? There’s been plenty of good responses, and some kids that think they’re funny. What in your opinion, have I not accepted.

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wieson 5 points 2 days ago

I read under 3 replies, that you don't think they explain the frequency.
But they're the answers given by most and also the one that I would give. Maybe they do explain the frequency. Maybe our communities here are just more full of self doubt or self reflection than other websites.

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Mongostein 39 points 2 days ago

I’ve done it because I’ve realized I misread something in the comment I replied to, making myself look stupid 🤷‍♂️

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Pratai 9 points 2 days ago

Okay that a fair reason and makes things make more sense. I appreciate the response!

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WindyRebel 8 points 2 days ago

I generally strike it all out, add an edit line, explain that I misread something, and apologize.

That’s just who I am though. I’m not saying you should do it, but I’m suggesting an alternate action. I’d rather be honest that I fucked up than hide it because it shows growth, and I also hope that it encourages other to realize it’s ok to make a mistake and reflect.

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Mongostein 2 points a day ago

It’s usually not that serious. 🤷‍♂️

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WindyRebel 1 point a day ago

Ah. Well, fair enough!

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pineapplelover 1 point 2 days ago

Same

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ikidd 37 points 2 days ago

Created by deletor

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chunes 19 points 2 days ago

because i realize i don't want my inbox to be full of people mad at me.

Protip for lemmy devs: if there was a 'disable inbox replies' button I wouldn't do this.

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Pratai 5 points 2 days ago

I think on voyager, you can disable notifications for posts/comments.

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chunes 2 points 2 days ago

Nice. AFAICT there is no such option on lemmy.world in a web browser.

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iatenine 4 points 2 days ago

I think enduring this now and then is healthy if you meant what you said

You gotta balance standing your ground when your stance is unpopular with understanding the mindset of others

Of course block anybody badgering you to the point of harassment

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Enkrod 18 points 2 days ago

Sometimes my first reaction to shit-takes is anger. I usually don't want that to be my comment. I'm trying to stay empathetic and have a constructive discussion, because I do not want Lemmy to become like Reddit and I think empathy and arguing in good faith is what makes the difference.

So I'm usually only letting the anger out when my opposite is arguing in bad faith.

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dohpaz42 17 points 2 days ago

I typically stick with what I say, for better or for worse. But I have deleted maybe two comments in the past; usually because I recognized how poorly I reacted and felt the person didn’t deserve my stupidity.

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Pratai 5 points 2 days ago

Same. I believe people should have the strength of conviction to stand by their opinions. I’ve said shit that probably should be removed, and some of it has, but I felt it needed to be said. It’s the risk one takes when using social media.

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Duchess 15 points 2 days ago

My top two reasons are realizing I posted somewhere I maybe shouldn’t and realizing I shared personal identifying information. A bit too late for the latter once it’s out there but you can’t win ‘em all 🤷🏼‍♀️

The other day someone posted an interesting boundary map of their farthest travels and I thought it was a fun idea, made my own and uploaded it and realized after posting that a Europe comm might not want Americans posting so I deleted it for example.

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BradleyUffner 14 points 2 days ago

Sometimes I accidentally reply to the wrong comment.

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FishFace 13 points 2 days ago
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AnarchistArtificer 3 points 2 days ago
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OriginEnergySux 13 points 2 days ago
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Ariselas 13 points 2 days ago
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someguy3 12 points 2 days ago
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GreenKnight23 11 points 2 days ago

I did it because trump won a second term and made some pretty threatening comments about people doing/saying the things I said. so I got rid of them.

that said, I stopped for two reasons;

  1. it's a pita and my comments are federated to other instances anyway
  2. fuck him
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DigDoug 11 points 2 days ago

Sometimes it's because I've said something stupid or that, in hindsight, comes off as stupid.

Usually it's because my comment has sparked an argument that I lose interest in continuing.

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abbadon420 12 points 2 days ago

Oh no, once there's an argument, you can't delete the comment anymore. You've created something and it has taken root, you must own it. You don't abort a child after it has been born, went to school, got a degree, married and had kids of its own, do you?

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kurwa 10 points 2 days ago

Not with that attitude

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Pratai 2 points 2 days ago

That’s a fair point. However, most of the time, it’s a comment made and deleted within minutes.

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nullify3112 10 points 2 days ago

My dudes we can do the funniest thing ever

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freudian_slop 6 points 2 days ago

I expected deleted comment chains

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Pratai 0 points 2 days ago

Your dudes are already doing what they think is the funniest thing ever. And I’d imagine commenting and deleting just to troll someone is against the rules of the community.

Let’s find out….

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Blaster_M 10 points 2 days ago
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dream_weasel 10 points 2 days ago

I usually only delete if I replied to the wrong comment or accidentally replied to the main post instead of a comment. There are some good reasons.

Also if I comment and then read down and I see I duplicated someone.

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micgerne 10 points 2 days ago
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muhyb 9 points 2 days ago

I don't usually delete my comments but mistakes happen. Even if I notice and delete them immediately, the trace of my comment lives there, because Fediverse. Basically you cannot put back in Genie once it's out of bottle.

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Pratai 1 point 2 days ago

Fair point. This helps.

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thumbtaxx 9 points 2 days ago

Usually because I'm feeling strongly enough about something to comment, then I'm reminded that engaging the random public is akin to pissing into a fan, and that's not very pleasant

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leftzero 8 points a day ago

Only times I've done it it was because I accidentally replied to the wrong comment.

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mesamunefire 8 points 2 days ago

On piefed you can give a reason something is deleted. Nifty feature.

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Pratai 6 points 2 days ago

Oh that’s cool. Maybe that will come to voyager soon?

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sem 2 points 2 days ago

I don't think Blorp supports this yet, does it?

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mesamunefire 3 points 2 days ago

What is that? Another client?

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sem 2 points a day ago

It's the only piefed client I'm aware of, other than summit

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mesamunefire 2 points a day ago

Interesting. I'll try it out sometime. I just use Firefox on the phone. But I'll try apps :)

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alternategait 8 points 2 days ago

I habitually delete about a month back to try and reduce the number of things that taken together could ID me. I’m not a particularly unique person but I’m sure with enough comments someone could get close.

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dream_weasel 3 points 2 days ago

The reasoning is fair but it kinda sucks for the rest of us. Like, maybe you could roll a new account? I'm fairly certain your posts would be archived and retrievable no? Just inconvenient for regular people who don't care who you are anyway.

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Typotyper 3 points 2 days ago

I make a new accounts and dump the old one. Either abandon it or delete it.

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alternategait 2 points 2 days ago

Honestly I do both. I’m 90% sure it’s part of why I was shadow banned on Reddit (along with my use of old Reddit).

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Pratai 2 points 2 days ago

Fair point. But I’m taking about comments that are minutes to hours old. I know I didn’t mention that and should have.

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EndOfLine 8 points 2 days ago

It is not common for me to see deleted comments. Do you tend to see this in certain communities?

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Pratai 4 points 2 days ago

I wouldn’t say it’s community specific, but it’s usually on controversial threads where people tend to debate a lot. It never happens at all where the discussion is friendly and neutral.

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Felis_Catus_Domesticus 8 points 2 days ago

because it remains as a notification, while removing any reportable trace

This.

It's a chickenshit hit & run tactic for hate speech.

Used mainly by those who decry hate speech online.

Go Figger. .

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Pratai 3 points 2 days ago

Yeah, the issue is these dumbasses think it works like Reddit here. It doesn’t.

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Felis_Catus_Domesticus 3 points a day ago

maybe the culture will adjust and change over time.

the internet didn't always suck like it has for the past 10-15 years.

it went from what is was in the 90's to what it is today.

maybe the pendulum will swing back in the other direction eventually, as is the trend in most things.

either because people simply move on, or because people begin to see the error that is present in the current way of doing things.

life is tough. people are assholes. deal with it.

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RememberTheApollo_ 8 points a day ago

For me it’s because I: replied to the wrong comment, wrote a response that was wrong because I didn’t fully read or understand the subject, or I decided that it wasn’t worth it.

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JustPlainDave 1 point a day ago

Pretty much the same for me.

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TwoTiredMice 8 points 2 days ago

It happens more here, for some reason, that I comment on the post instead of under another comment, so I delete the one and writes a new.

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WhatsHerBucket 1 point 2 days ago

^-- This

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Zachariah 7 points 2 days ago

I’ve only deleted when I realized I broke a community’s rules.

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ApollosArrow 6 points 2 days ago

It’s unfortunately part of the the lemmy culture now. A lot of people instinctively react and post without thinking, which they later regret. We’ve lost a lot of critical thinking when it comes to the internet culture, so here we are.

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Pratai 1 point 2 days ago

Yeah. I think it’s this too. Or at least a lot of it.

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0ndead 6 points 2 days ago
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basiclemmon98 5 points 2 days ago
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SCmSTR 5 points 2 days ago

Sometimes I do it because I comment in the wrong post or wrong comment thread.

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jimmy90 5 points 2 days ago

there's a lot of paranoid mouthy kids here

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Crackhappy 4 points 2 days ago

I see a lot of differing reasons people do it, all of which are legit. I wonder if it might make sense for Lemmy to add an optional delete reason field.

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lena 4 points 2 days ago
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RattlerSix 3 points 2 days ago

DELETED

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Pratai 3 points 2 days ago

BLOCKED.

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felsiq 3 points 2 days ago

Just commenting to point out that all three of those people have commented and then deleted their comments on this post too 😂

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Pratai 1 point 2 days ago

That’s where I took the screenshots from. They think they’re being funny.

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micgerne 13 points 2 days ago

we are being funny

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felsiq 5 points 2 days ago

Ohh I thought it was another post and all three had done the same thing here, damn

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Pratai -5 points 2 days ago

Nope. It was here. It’s just gradeshool clowns that think they’re being funny. I’ve blocked them. That type of dumbfuckery is usualt of no use down the road so it’s no great loss.

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sem 1 point 2 days ago

I don't see any screenshots -- where did you post them?

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Pratai 1 point 2 days ago

I removed them. I think the kids are trying to get added on purpose and deleting their comments for that reason alone. Dumb of me to expect better.

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MichaeleanDouglasse 3 points 2 days ago

Deleted.

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JohnnyEnzyme 3 points 2 days ago

I've been on Reddit for 10+yrs and can't remember getting a notification without a comment sitting there to read. Based on that, I assumed that if the comment was deleted, that would cancel the notification. *shrug*

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Pratai 6 points 2 days ago

On Reddit, you can comment horrific shit and insult people and then delete it. That person will still get the message, but if you try to go to the message thread, it won’t be there. Therefore you cannot report it.

Essentially, they get to harass you with impunity.

That isn’t how lemmy works though.

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snooggums 1 point 2 days ago

In piefed I swear I can see the replies in my inbox after the comment is deleted by the user as I sometimes click on them and they show as deleted in the post comments.

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JohnnyEnzyme 1 point 2 days ago

Yes, I understood your argument for that being how it works.

I'm saying I don't recall seeing it work like that. Well, at least not recently. Maybe I'm forgetting from a few years ago or something.

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Kolanaki 2 points 2 days ago

I've always known it to work this way. Unless it's changed recently, it likely still does.

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WhoIzDisIz 1 point 2 days ago

Is it possible you don't have reply notifications enabled?

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JohnnyEnzyme 1 point 2 days ago

I most certainly do.

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Pratai 1 point 2 days ago

Yeah. It works like that. At least it did as of a few weeks ago. I’ve since left Reddit, but I’m assuming it’s still the same.

I remember seeing people as far back as 5 or 6 years ago asking Reddit mods/admins to do something about it, but clearly they’re fine with it being that way and would rather perma-ban people for making easily provable mistakes.

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XiJinpingStanAccount 2 points 2 days ago

I mean I know a lot of people on Lemmy are more privacy conscious and one practice I myself have done in that regard is periodically both purging all posts and comments and deleteing the account itself and making a fresh one.

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daggermoon 2 points 2 days ago

Usually for me I say something that pisses people off and get tired of people replying to it. It often happens when I shit talk Canada.

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Pratai 3 points 2 days ago

Why would you shit talk Canada? They’re pretty lovely if you ask me.

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myyass 4 points 2 days ago

They're great, and I don't shit talk them, but sometimes you meet completely irrational people that are angry and full of hate. I got shit on a lot for trying to explain how politics really work in the US to be met with America hate and you're to blame for everything and we have our own problems. You can read about the racist twat in my comments, some Chinese--Canadian that is totally cool at shitting on people in America and loves to shit on Japanese people then calls me racist.

I'm like chill out, you're basically barking at people locked in a prison and telling them why don't you do something about it.

Sigh 六四事件?

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daggermoon 4 points 2 days ago

I don't hate Canada just to be clear. Yes, the people are lovely. For one thing, Canada's treatment of it's natives. I found this article that can explain my gripe much better than I can so check that out if it interests you. Also, I'll admit some of it is me being petty, but Pierre Poilievre would have won had he not alligned himself with Trump. Than Canada would have been in a very bad place as well. Lastly, Canada isn't much more affordable than the US. Y'all got healthcare though so I'll give you that one. I also like Coffee Crisp.

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Malica 2 points 2 days ago

I delete if I made the comment in error, otherwise no

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johsny 2 points 2 days ago

[deleted]

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snooggums 1 point 2 days ago

You rang?

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Pratai 0 points 2 days ago

[blocked]

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johsny 5 points 2 days ago

[sadface]

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johsny 3 points 2 days ago

But to give you a serious answer, I sometimes delete stuff because I don’t want my wisdom eaten by AI to enrich the bastards.

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lightnsfw 1 point a day ago

I do it when I respond to the wrong person. Or rarely when I think better of what I just said. Usually the second one happens before I post though.

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Ice 1 point 2 days ago

Every so often I'll go to the tail end of my acocunt history and simply delete anything that isn't particularly interesting.

Simply privacy.

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Pratai 3 points 2 days ago

Right. That makes total sense. But what I’m taking about is comments made on a post or comment that merely a few hours old.

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Zarobi 1 point 2 days ago

In addition to other comments, I've encountered a few weirdoes on here that repeatedly ask the same question and then delete it afterwards. No one is quite sure why they do this but they're easy to block

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nousername 0 points 2 days ago
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kaosterra 1 point 2 days ago

Why did you also delete your username?!?!

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CombatWombat 0 points 2 days ago

There's a subset of fedi users who delete their comments after a while to save resources for their instance. It's probably not the majority of what you encounter, but there's enough that a lot of fedi software supports it as a feature.

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Zwuzelmaus -1 points 2 days ago

So, why is this so common?

You know that social media makes the brain smaller and smaller.

So, when there's hardly any brain left anymore, but comments are still pouring out...

/s

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witty_username -2 points 2 days ago
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BagOfHeavyStones -3 points 2 days ago

If more downvotes than upvotes, it's unpopular. To the bin with it.

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Pratai 11 points 2 days ago

Unpopular doesn’t mean it’s wrong. Stand by your opinions. And if rh think here’s a chance you’re wrong, allow people to change it. Deleting the comment doesn’t help anything.

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MagicShel 4 points 2 days ago

I've had lots of comments get downvoted because other people are wrong and I'm right (not always, sometimes it's the other way around) or because Lemmy insists an issue is black and white when there is nuance. Why should I delete when they're the ones that suck?

Internet points are meaningless and they're forgotten about in a week anyway. Hell, unlike Reddit, they don't even get tallied on your account; they are entirely per post, so even if I were trying to impress anyone, there's no lasting effect of a downvote. It's edifying when the zeitgeist agrees with me, but when they don't, that doesn't change the reason I was moved to comment in the first place.

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freudian_slop 2 points 2 days ago

Will you delete this comment? It has now more downvotes than upvotes

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BagOfHeavyStones 2 points a day ago

Naah. If I kill it, the upvoted children will lose their parent.

I'm more likely to nuke it if it's a joke that fell flat or something like that, or if I can see I was just plain wrong about something.

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