US man shoots off-duty ICE agent who allegedly attacked him and daughter

2 days ago by MicroWave to c/news

ICE official, who was sleeping on man’s lawn and appeared ‘intoxicated’, faces felony charges, California police say

A 72-year-old man shot an off-duty Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) official in California early on Friday morning after the “intoxicated and agitated” official assaulted him and his daughter on their property, local authorities allege.

The Fresno police department said that the ICE official was receiving medical care after being shot in the midsection. The official, identified as David Gonzalez, is facing felony charges for assaulting the father-daughter duo, Fresno police said.

It was not immediately clear for how Gonzalez had been with ICE and what exactly he did for ICE. The Department of Homeland Security (DHS), which oversees ICE, referred all questions about Gonzalez to Fresno police.

Rhaedas 158 points 2 days ago

Faces felony charges, but the federal department he works for passed questions to the local authorities.

They dumped him on someone else to avoid accountability. Nice. Sounds like a Trump organization.

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LifeInMultipleChoice 82 points 2 days ago

This is best case scenario. Local investigation and charges. Otherwise the feds will block access to to evidence and just say everything was done according to the books

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nilloc 30 points a day ago

The agents last name is Gonzalez. The feds will immediately disown him or throw him under the bus.

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PattyMcB 8 points a day ago

Those leopards are HUNGRY for faces

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LillyPip 4 points a day ago

This just tells us there are still people in middle management who can’t stomach this shit. (Most people who couldn’t at higher levels have resigned already, and we can all see what’s coming for middle management)

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LemmyFeed 107 points 2 days ago

Shortly thereafter, the daughter’s boyfriend, an off-duty police officer, arrived and placed handcuffs on Gonzalez.

I guess luckily they had a police officer in the family? I can't help but feel like things would have gone quite differently if they didn't have relations with the local police force.

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ipkpjersi 45 points a day ago

100% it would have gone differently if they didn't have a police officer in the family lol

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grrgyle 18 points a day ago

Yeah the blue line is wobbly on this one so whoever does cop optics first wins.

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thoughtfuldragon 86 points 2 days ago

More people should.

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BillionaireStew 68 points a day ago

The Fresno police department said that the ICE official was receiving medical care after being shot in the midsection. The official, identified as David Gonzalez, is facing felony charges for assaulting the father-daughter duo

"Gonzales" is a hell of a last name for a hired ethnic cleanser in California.

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blackshirt 24 points a day ago

I wounder how the police would have handled this if the homeowner name was Gonazels and the ICE agent name was William Baker.

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SCmSTR 2 points 20 hours ago

Whitecap party

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amgine 23 points 21 hours ago

There’s likely a lot. In Texas here you see a ton of trucks with the punisher/blue line/trump wig stickers on their trucks with Hispanic men driving them. Completely disconnected from reality

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GolfFoxtrotLima 2 points 19 hours ago

This unfortunately, too real

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Archelon 7 points 18 hours ago

Shout out to you for calling this “anti-immigrant campaign” what it is. I think the phrase Ethnic Cleansing needs to be permanently attached to ICE and the Trump Administration, and I wonder how many decades it’ll be before the media uses it.

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HCSOThrowaway 3 points 13 hours ago path: 0 26278506 26286929, hotness: undefined, score: 3, children: 0
stylusmobilus 2 points 17 hours ago

Seems to be a lot of people with that background within that department

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Bustedknuckles 1 point 19 hours ago path: 0 26278506 26282692, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 0
fyzzlefry 1 point 17 hours ago

You'd be surprised

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CalemitousVariantK 53 points 2 days ago

It should be legal to shoot ice agents, on duty or off, particularly if they, as usual, are masked and not following police procedures. And if the man was afraid for his life, as he definitely should have been if an ice agent was involved, the precedent set by multiple high profile recent cases in other states is that it was legal. I hope that jury finds the same.

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Cocodapuf 22 points a day ago

Honestly, since ICE agents don't provide any kind of id when asked, we shouldn't refer to them as ICE agents, because that's really unconfirmed. It would be more appropriate to say "masked man dressed as ICE agent", because we can't actually know that they're an official rather than a criminal in a costume. And obviously, the correct and rational response to being assaulted or harassed by someone in a mask is to treat them like a criminal, and defend yourself appropriately.

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CrossingtheAbyss -28 points a day ago

It should be legal to shoot ice agents, on duty or off, particularly if they, as usual, are masked and not following police procedures.

This isn't self-defense, it's just plain murder. While I don't agree with ICE wearing masks and acting lawless, calling for more violence is not the way. Don't become the very thing you hate.

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SabinStargem 39 points a day ago

They willfully chose to become monsters. Your call for "humanity" is shielding evil from consequences.

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halcyoncmdr 25 points a day ago

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PattyMcB 4 points a day ago

Nazis are so very face-punchable

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chiliedogg 22 points a day ago

Some armed, masked goon refusing to show ID trespasses on my property I'm not gonna greet them politely.

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CrossingtheAbyss -1 points 21 hours ago

That's a different circumstance though and is not what OP is advocating.

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athatet 6 points 20 hours ago

Shooting someone before they shoot you is deffo self defense wtf.

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CrossingtheAbyss 2 points 17 hours ago

I agree with this but that's not how OP framed it.

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Krumm 5 points a day ago

Stop the thugs, not the people punching back if you want it to stop. It's cowardly to speak down, speak up and these poor folks will have nothing* to bitch about.

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stinkytofuisgood 4 points a day ago

I really don't think calling for no violence in a progressively more fascist, corporate-owned country that gets a hard on from shooting deadly weapons is logical.

It's in their constitution, go wild guys. Better it used on the people harming society at large than anywhere else.

America can deepthroat the barrel of a nice thick gun and pull the trigger as the climax

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Kaligalis 3 points 18 hours ago

It's murder like in killing a Nazi soldier in France as a French during Nazi occupation in WW2. Sure, it's illegal under the occupation forces' law. But it's still the right thing to do.

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CalemitousVariantK 2 points 20 hours ago

I appreciate your sentiment against violence more than the community at large. While I do hate needless divisiveness, as many others have already said in this instance the person in question made a conscious choice to enact the hateful, barbaric policies of the trump administration as the instrument of violence for personal profit.

We who cherish tolerance must be the most mindful of the tolerance paradox.

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CluelessCalls 2 points a day ago

You’re human garbage.

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conquer4 0 points a day ago

I don't think you know how war works.

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SarahValentine 2 points a day ago

I don't think you remember what war does to everyone who actually has to go do it instead of sitting on their asses telling other people to go do it.

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SkyeStarfall 4 points a day ago

But what does war do to people who won't fight back, but is still forced upon them?

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el_muerte 0 points 18 hours ago

"DAE killing Nazis is murder?"

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toast 42 points 2 days ago

Only once?

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Darkard 99 points 2 days ago

He's not a cop. He's got some self control, restraint and a general unwillingness to commit murder.

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vaultdweller013 43 points 2 days ago

I'd argue killing an ICE agent is closer to pest control.

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Zahille7 5 points 2 days ago

True, but ICE agents are barely human anyway, so I say fuck em.

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VeryVito 46 points 2 days ago

They're human. They represent the worst of humanity, but dehumanizing is their game, and it's best not to play it.

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gravitas_deficiency 19 points 2 days ago

Mmm nope, gonna have to disagree. Your statement is a demonstration of the paradox of tolerance in action.

Any ICE agent, at any time, can choose to no longer be an ICE agent. The people that ICEatzgruppen are targeting and repressing and brutalizing and deporting and killing cannot choose to not be targeted.

Fascists should be scared for their lives, always. The fact that they aren’t anymore, and haven’t been for at least a decade now, is a big part of how we got here.

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Zahille7 7 points 2 days ago
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RampantParanoia2365 2 points 2 days ago

THE HIGH ROAD

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Pratai -1 points a day ago

Naah. They’re subhuman garbage.

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kreskin -3 points a day ago

I've been counselled to make sure if you ever have to shoot someone that you empty the clip into them, as it implies you were pannicked , in fear for your life, and and not in control of the situation.

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PattyMcB 2 points a day ago

Yep... the whole clipazine 🙄

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the_crotch 1 point a day ago

If the person counselling you knew what they were talking about they wouldn't call a magazine a "clip".

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kreskin -2 points 21 hours ago

oh no, did I get the term wrong. So.. I'm not a gun guy and am unlikely to become one. I dont really care what the proper term is. I'm going to just go with "bullet-holder".

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mHtt 32 points a day ago

"USA MAN Stands Ground."

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lemmylump 32 points 2 days ago

Do Not Forget Rule 2.

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kreskin 28 points 21 hours ago

Feelgood story of the year.

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abc 26 points 20 hours ago

I hope the recoil didn't hurt him.

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Lushed_Lungfish 25 points 19 hours ago

And THAT is what your vaunted second amendment is for.

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PedroMaldonado 24 points 2 days ago

Put a bunch of unqualified fascist screw heads in uniforms AND masks. We are just a sad joke.

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the_riviera_kid 23 points a day ago

More of this.

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Hermit_Lailoken 23 points 2 days ago

That'll teach that domestic terrorist.

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Malica 16 points 2 days ago

They're not capable of learning

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Hermit_Lailoken 5 points 2 days ago

Too much hate and less intellect, mixed with a dollop of greed.

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skippy 22 points a day ago

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zbyte64 20 points 2 days ago

Finally some good news out of Fresno.

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Radical_Socialist_t00t 19 points a day ago

Good. Shame the fucker survived.

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PattyMcB 5 points a day ago

Hopefully he'll be ashamed (not likely) and be fired and have this follow him for the rest of his life. Fuck those ICE thugs!

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joeschmoe 18 points 18 hours ago

I absolutely love the comments here. On cucked Reddit this would have been locked and nearly all comments deleted. I got permabanned there a couple days ago for going off on Russia and their stupid plague situation. Of course, I had previous bans, one of which was for wishing these Chinese kids, that killed those beloved village dogs a while ago, the absolute worst mob justice imaginable.

Anyway, fuck ICE, keep firing at the bastards.

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KonalaKoala 2 points 16 hours ago path: 0 26283017 26284440, hotness: undefined, score: 2, children: 1
87Six 1 point 3 hours ago

"Sight? What sight? I just see where the bullets land, that's my sight"

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SabinStargem 13 points 2 days ago

We need to get this man a gun range subscription.

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Furbag 13 points 18 hours ago

It took a remarkably long time for one of these assholes to get shot at.

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Tiral 4 points 16 hours ago

Yeah, honestly I'm surprised with how many gun happy people there are and tend to be anti authority to some degree. I feel like they wouldn't put up with a lot. Which in this case I'd high five them lol.

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frongt 4 points 14 hours ago

That's why they've been targeting demographics with low gun ownership. They're well aware of that possibility.

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87Six 1 point 3 hours ago

At least they can't justify more violence with "they are shooting at us, we gotta shoot first to protect our little fragile egos!"

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Pratai 12 points a day ago

More please!

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njm1314 11 points 16 hours ago

Pity his aim wasn't better.

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ElDuderino 5 points 13 hours ago

A shocking percentage of American gun owners put little effort into learning basic marksmanship.

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gwl 4 points 13 hours ago

Not that shocking tbh.

Many own a fun just to protect themselves from others that own guns

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BigMacHole 11 points 2 days ago

This is NOT true! That person was a PRETEND ICE Agent because REAL ICE Agents have IDENTIFICATION and PROTOCOL to Ensure they ARENT a Random Person KIDNAPPING CHILDREN and Murdering People!

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Psychodelic -1 points 2 days ago

Source?

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dual_sport_dork 30 points 2 days ago

The user you are replying to is a novelty account who presents facetious but entirely plausible MAGA flavored ironic responses using Donald Trump's trademark TWITTER POSTING STYLE with RANDOM phrases in all-caps for EMPHASIS. Thank you for your attention to this matter!

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dreadbeef 3 points a day ago

Some may call it simply a parody account ;)

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stinkytofuisgood 2 points a day ago

I swear to god peoples' sense for detecting humour and parody is dying. Except the Brits and the Aussies, fuckin' love those cunts

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RampantParanoia2365 5 points 2 days ago

Did you really read this and think this person is making a genuine argument?

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Psychodelic 9 points 2 days ago

I've been seeing the weirdest comments lately. Idk anymore

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ChunkMcHorkle 2 points 2 days ago

You do have a point there

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gdog05 2 points a day ago

That's fair, Poe's Law is broken. Edit: Or proven. One of those

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lemmylump 2 points 2 days ago

Stop eating shrooms, and can I have some shrooms?

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PattyMcB 0 points a day ago

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SwingingTheLamp 10 points 2 days ago

What a tragedy. (That the ICE goon survived the shooting, I mean.)

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LillyPip 9 points a day ago

Straight to jail.

This is why journalism still exists in the US for now, and why the regime is trying very hard to kill it.

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DummyWOW 8 points a day ago

Why do they keep using this thumbnail of the caked up Nazi?

Stupid, sexy, fascists

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bertlewirth 2 points a day ago

It’s like I’m wearing nothing at all! Nothing at all! Nothing at all!

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PhoenixDog 6 points a day ago

There are more of us than them at any given time. It's not illegal to kill your local ICE agents. Make them fear waking up in the morning.

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ayyy 6 points 19 hours ago

I think you mixed up “illegal” and “immoral”.

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PhoenixDog 0 points 17 hours ago

No I didn't. Can't be charged with a crime when there's no one left to report it.

Make Homeland Security start naming their "officers" after they're dead. Spoiler alert, they won't because the majority of them are J6ers, formerly dismissed cops, or convicted felons. No way Homeland will admit to hiring the absolute worst people for upholding immigration enforcement.

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ayyy 1 point 11 hours ago

They admit it all the time. They’re proud of it. It’s how fascists brag about the power they’ve amassed.

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UpperBroccoli 6 points 3 hours ago

Hope they don't get in trouble over this. Many HOAs frown upon disposing of garbage on your front lawn.

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voidsignal 5 points 2 days ago

Good. Just next time, aim for the head

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latetolemmy 4 points a day ago

Needs to get firing squad to set an example

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nomy 1 point a day ago

They could televise it, I heard that was the new thing.

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rumimevlevi 4 points 12 hours ago

If it was in the West Bank , he would got shot instantly, his whole family and neighbors would be killed and their homes destroyed

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TankovayaDiviziya 3 points 2 days ago

That's a legit crashout if I ever see one.

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ChunkMcHorkle 12 points 2 days ago

Yeah. They've been low-key happening on the regular since ICE started going hard on deportations, side items in the media that are reported but without any fanfare, usually involving drinking + bad acts that together result in an arrest.

It's almost like some of these wannabe sociopaths have just enough of a stub conscience left to fuck them up when they're away from the team and forced to be alone with themselves, but not enough of one to just walk away.

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Snowclone 7 points 2 days ago

it's more because they're all typically people who couldn't make it in the police or military, either because of criminal records, addiction, behavior problems, or worse, like all official street thugs of a fascist government, they are the worst people, and when this finally falls apart and people start doing through the details they'll be identified.

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ChunkMcHorkle 4 points a day ago

Maybe. All that may be true, but it has nothing to do with how you handle who and what you are after the rest of your team has left for the day and you're faced with the silent emptiness that contains only you and the knowledge of what you've been up to in it.

A distant threat of criminal prosecution, that may or may not ever even happen, has nothing against the recent memory of the woman looking up into your eyes with a mix of horror and revulsion, seeing you as the monster you are as she fights you trying to rip her kid away from her, or the remembered cries of the family members screaming at you as you take their father, or the shouts of "Shame!" from the crowd as they watch you violently subdue some guy whose only crime is being brown.

Some people enjoy it, even feed on that shit. Some people are deeply horrified in some remaining corner of inner sanity and try to drink it away so they can keep doing it. Both are fucked, but deep down where it counts when a human being is alone with himself, they are not the same.

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PattyMcB 1 point a day ago

I blame it more on the pressure to deliver unreasonable numbers of arrests/deportations causing a high amount of "work stress" combined with the fact that they're garbage to begin with.

I seriously doubt any of them have a conscience or feel like they're doing anything wrong if they willingly took that job.

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anugeshtu 3 points 16 hours ago

Karma

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flandish 2 points 2 days ago

good.

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Nastybutler 0 points 2 days ago

We should build a statue of this hero

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SnarkoPolo 0 points 2 days ago

He's just going to go missing.

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All posts must link to original article sources. You may include archival links in the post description. News aggregators such as Yahoo, Google, Hacker News, etc. should be avoided in favor of the original source link. Newswire services such as AP, Reuters, or AFP, are frequently republished and may be shared from other credible sources.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body

For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

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