These people are going to go home and be proud of how they defended the border and tell everyone about it.
"Immigrants stopped coming because we were there! See?! It works!"
MAGA Convoy Confused By Lack Of 'Invasion' As They Arrive At Border
3 years ago by Rapidcreek to c/politics
These people are going to go home and be proud of how they defended the border and tell everyone about it.
"Immigrants stopped coming because we were there! See?! It works!"
"Lisa, I want to buy your rock."
Wasn't there some scammer that was selling pieces of the border wall? Like you could sponsor a piece of it and have your name on it?
personalized vanity stones with family names and little messages being used to stop families at the border is actually hilarious
"From the Johnsons. Peter, Debbie, and little David. - we're hate-filled!"
or one with their pets pawprint "my Pepper is just as racist as I am!"
But, of course, it won't occur to them that this is because their Republican masters are lying to them.
Oh they already do.
I remember when debate was getting started about the ACA (Obamacare). I was debating it with my friends older brother. He is the kind of Catholic that will shame you for not going to church.
So he's ranting about the merits of universal healthcare and I asked him what Jesus would do. Let's just say he didn't like that. He later blocked me on social media and it was the last discussion we ever had.
What a happy ending. Some people are really cynical about the Internet these days but it's things like your comment that give me hope.
He should have gone on about Jesus making the leppers work at Starbucks so they had health coverage before healing them.
I'm surprised that hasn't happened yet, to be honest.
The last time they tried a Civil war they failed, and destroyed their own economies in the process. That time, they had some of the best generals available. This time they have Boebert and Trump to lead them,
Lincoln offered Lee command of the Union Army.
Lee almost took it too, he didn't want to secede but he felt like he was betraying his fellow statesmen in Virginia. People forget that before the civil war people didn't think of themselves as Americans, they thought of themselves as citizens of whatever state they were from.
From what I've read, before the War people said "...the United States are..." and after they changed it to "...the United States IS..."
Also, I like the stories that the British had agents who privately encouraged the South to fight the North in order to keep America weak. Putin didn't invent anything new
On the contrary, I think your comment is a bit of a stretch in the other direction. Leaving variances in talent among individuals aside, the officers on both sides were broadly comparable because they had all gone through the same West Point training and were colleagues in the same chain of command, with the same strategy and doctrine, until the Southern ones turned traitor.
I haven't seen that part disputed? To my knowledge there was a very good reason Lee was the superintendent at the US Military Academy and was even offered a Union command before Virginia seceded, and this pattern holds with his underlings too. A lot of Confederate victories were beating odd against bigger Union armies.
When the upper threshold for greatness available to you is a 3/10, a 2.5 looks pretty good.
I understood that pro-union misinformation and propaganda and poor understanding of history is orders of magnitude less harmful than pro-confederate, but it still bothers me. Lee was an incredible general. Jackson, Longstreet, even Early were excellent tacticians. The union could not field anyone who was a match for them until Grant and Sherman.
Lee was offered comman of the union army by Lincoln.
I love "wrattling". kind of a wrestling-meets-defective-machinery.
That part of the mythos is fairly accurate.
Well it doesn't help it any that "lost cause" is 100% what some of our elected officials are spouting currently
It was an error. I should have ended with the '...'
The U.S. government has a professional army. They have nothing. And when the vast majority of the country lives paycheck-to-paycheck, you're not going to get a lot of (male, obviously, 'cause ladies is too fragile) bodies on the front lines when people can barely feed their kids on two incomes. Not without a draft. Good luck with that, Texas.
I dont think you know about the rednecks in Texas. They all have guns and have played Call of Duty. That makes them enough of a trained militia in their eyes to make a go at it.
It's not about what they believe they're capable of, it's about what they can actually afford to do. If you have two kids and a house you're just barely able to afford and are in a large amount of debt despite both adults in the household working full time jobs, you're not likely going to let your kids starve in order to fight a war of secession.
Yeah, sure, but you see, it's all THE LIBRULS' FAULT, so you basically MUST go to war to show 'em.
Punish the enemy for all the things I blame them for
???
Profit!
whats sad is they do believe that
It will be defecrors from almost every unit, svery state. And i feel it would be a big percentage.
Now I wonder. Does Texas even have the ability to draft people into its own "army?" I'm sure they'd have plenty of volunteers itching to fight "the gubment," but the Selective Service my friends were a part of was for the US military.
I suppose if they secede, they can do whatever they want. They will claim sovereignty. So I suppose they could have a draft. I just don't think it would work out well for them.
Republicans are mentally deflective.
FTFY
¿Porque no los dos?
I'm surprised any of them even made it to Texas, considering how hard they descended into paranoia and fear.
Who, Texans?
Wait… wasn't there a huge invasion of South American immigrants about to hit our border in 2020? What ever happened to them? And what about the roving bands of Antifa attacking small towns?
These fucking idiots believe whatever the fuck is fed to them. They don't remember all the times that info was wrong and realign. That's why they're dangerous: they aren't operating on even the appearance of facts.
They have the memories of goldfish. Remember Jade Helm, where supposedly Democrats were going to put Republicans in Walmarts converted into concentration camps? When that didn't happen, did all those MAGA idiots who believed it say, "huh. Maybe I should rethink things?" No, they just forgot it was even a thing they said was going to happen within a day or two.
I saw a cop bodycam video with someone who was talking about (jade jelm) that during the time it was supposedly happening / about to happen. Absolutely stunning.
The guy who chased an officer in the Capitol on J6 (Douglas Jensen) reportedly kept asking FBI agents if they knew who Q was or if they were in on the op. I think he was confused why they weren't a part of it or some such drivel. These people mostly have the lowest media literacy and ability to work through logic. They are 100% id-driven. The small amount that think rationally run the grift at the top, such as Bannon and that ilk.
I didn't know anything about JH until sometime last year. Here's from Wikipedia:
Jim Shea of the Hartford Courant wrote that the conspiracy theories included: a "psychological operation aimed at getting people used to seeing military forces on the streets" so that they do not realize when an invasion actually takes place; an international operation aimed to seize people's guns; recently closed Walmarts used by the military to "stockpile supplies for Chinese troops who will be arriving to disarm Americans"; and a military plan to "round up political dissidents" and "remove key political figures" who may be against the imposition of martial law.[17] Other theories have described Jade Helm 15 as a "secret plot" to impose martial law, confiscate firearms, invade Texas, and institute "total population control."[18]
Seriously, who the fuck can believe this stupid shit? We're gonna have a foreign power come take your guns? ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?
Conservatives have only enough thought to register emotions. No ability to question a narrative.
I guy I worked with says he stayed up all night holding a loaded AR when "BLM protesters were going to break into houses in small towns across America" and then said it was a good thing he did it... after absolutely nothing happened... anywhere...
I am so confused about these people sometimes. It's like how they simultaneously say that the January 6th insurrectionists were all secretly Antifa but also they're Trump-loving patriots who are being treated unfairly by the courts.
Sounds a bit like my dog. When she sees another dog being walked past the house, she makes an alarm bark to let me know there is an invader coming. Then , due solely to her alarm (and not at all because they're just on a walk), the interloper moved along, and called off their imminent invasion. "See", my dog barks at me. "You're lucky I'm here to protect you from that bitch...."
They are walking here. Imagine for a second that you had to walk to the store...be honest, we're Americans, it would take years. You would probably never make it back home if it was winter, at night or full summer. It's a trek. Now imagine walking from guatemala (prenounced watemalla). They are coming 😁. And when they get here, they're going to dangerously tired. So dangerous in fact that we just gotta send people there.... To help.
Genuinely reminds me of the Orc Army led by Dragons in Gothic 2.
Referring to other human beings as “things” is abhorrent.
I agree.
And yet they are still humans. Terrible, confused, hateful humans, but humans no less.
Mission accomplished!!
Now have them try to land on an aircraft carrier. Just put a big ski jump at the edge of the dock. I am sure they will make it .
set parade on -tickertape -flags
Let's tell them that there's a border invasion at the site of the Titanic wreckage
My first thought when I read the title was
Is this the onion?
Somehow I think they are confused about a lot of stuff.
I don’t know what I expected. I can tell you it’s not as bad as what I thought.
Which is it you stupid?! How did civilization get this way? I can’t take it anymore.
How did civilization get this way?
Well, it started when Nixon posited that conservatives needed a republican news outlet to frame political problems in a way that always casted republicans in a good light, that way a media-landslide like Watergate wouldn't happen again. Fox News was born, and has slowly been pushing our society into what it is now.
So, to answer your question, the snowball started rolling about 50 years ago.
In the scenario in your comment, that very same news network told a bunch of gullable, trained idiots that we are being invaded, in order to make republican policy look good.
The most connected period in human history also produces the dumbest humans, apparently.
Not just enabled. Weaponized.
China’s gonna collapse any day. Look at Gaza. Democrats are not immune.
If you're protesting the gaza genocide you're clearly working for Putin to... um distract from Ukraine? Hey wait a minute...
The 15 permanent judges of the ICJ unanimously said as much, and Israel and Netanyahu basically calling it a genocide themselves.
I rest my case.
meanwhile, I ran into some moron from another country trying to tell me, an American, about how 26 US state governors have stood against the government and are "amassing troops at the texan border."
Fucking hilarious if it weren't so fucking sad and dangerous.
I wonder how bad the filter bubble is for some people. Like "relevant search results" or articles in their preferred news media. And trained cognitive biases. There is a lot of deliberate effort from the fascists and careless ignorance from tech companies to make it this way.
This amounts to an anecdote.
it's an interview with one of the people that traveled there based on the "news" they consumed. It's not just 'an anecdote', it's a first person source from someone at the location who is part of this group that went there.
This isn't just a 'my uncle once saw xyz', you are mischaracterizing the context.
Also, in regards to MBFC,
Overall, we rate MeidasTouch Left Biased based on the negative portrayal of Donald Trump and Republicans and the promotion of Democratic candidates. We also rate them Mixed for factual reporting due to a lack of transparency with funding
dOgShIt!!!!!
this isn't a great "article" in general to post, but you're being extreme
Fuckin biiiiiiiiiitches.
I think anyone associated with "maga" spend most of their lives in a state of confusion.
Perpetual confusion with anger and fear. I mean, these people are mad at rainbows and afraid they're going to rape a someone with a penis.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/meidastouch/
Got a better source than meidastouch?
It's mostly an embedded clip from MSNBC; clicking the linked article can be informative!
I'm also not sure what bias you are accusing Meidas Touch of in the headline (since we know you didn't get any further than that)? Is it the part about the maga convoy being confused? We know they are easily led from one moral outrage to another without really understanding the issues.
The part about there not being an invasion at the border? It's obvious there isn't anything of the sort happening, because the people that are claiming it's happening are the same ones who just said that they refuse to do anything about it for a year, until (they hope) Trump is president.
I’m also not sure what bias you are accusing Meidas Touch of in the headline (since we know you didn’t get any further than that)?
If only someone had provided a link that would have answered that question, you know, in the post you replied to. I guess you were the one who couldnt get that far.
Sure, but all the MBFC link proves is that Meidas Touch has an unapologetic left-leaning bias, and they tend to only bother running stories that support that bias. Unlike many other "mixed" factual reporting news sites, they're not in that category for lying and/or spreading misinformation. This suggests that the article is true. There's no value in your original insinuation that there's something wrong with the source of this information, as per your own link.
MeidasTouch does not have a reputation for giving factual information, and its extreme bias makes it inherently untrustworthy.. and despite what you claim about them not lying/spreading misinformation, mediabiascheck cites 3 different times they've failed a fact check because they were spreading false/made up information.
The real question is why you think its not okay to call out bad sources if they are left leaning. Which is what you surely seem to be implying, with your blatant misrepresentation of whats on the mediabiasfact page about mediastouch and how hard you are trying to defend meidastouch despite a documented history of being fast and lose with facts and truth.
But you wont answer that
No, I wager you'd be more inclined to drill into one factual thing in one article and use that to handwave away meidastouch's problematic patterns, because your bias is more important than reputable sources and factual reporting.. because thats what you're already doing here, and now.
I'm all for laughing at them.
Just give me a reputable source with factual information.
There are definitely more reputable sources for information than either of them, thats for sure.
Get out! Baitin here!
MAGA Convoy Confused.
All that needed be said.
They probably also believe that the earth is flat. Or that an exiled Nigerian prince wants to bequeath them billions in exchange for helping him smuggle his inheritance out of the country.
Crossings have increased, but it’s not an invasion.
The "border crisis" is made up. If we opened our borders, suddenly there wouldn't be a "crisis" anymore and the vast majority of Americans would see no change in their day-to-day lives.
America needs to stop worrying about non existent issues and focus more on taking care of their citizens.
I see what you're doing here, but I'm afraid you were doomed the moment you linked a 23 minute video. People don't have that kind of attention spans for their own family, let alone a stranger trying to make a point on the internet.
It's not an army of people storming the gates to take over the country it's individuals or families trying to climb a wall or swim across a dangerous river and risking death to try and escape a bad situation or make a new life for themselves. Or in regards to legal immigrants struggling to be processed it's an issue with a lack of resources allocated to them. Maybe some of them are criminals but contrary to popular belief most criminals that deal in border crossing either have a way of getting through the border "legally" or don't have to cross the border themselves at all. And it's the "criminals storming the gates" style of border crisis that these people in the convoy are imagining.
Also, if anything, Texas is potentially contributing to New York’s homeless problem by spending millions of dollars busing migrants and dropping them off at the city without any support. If these are “invaders”, then Texas is aiding the “enemy” and conducting economic warfare against the city.
I wholeheartedly accept Abbott's framing that this is an invasion. Moving invaders farther into the country they are invading is certainly providing aid and comfort. Therefore, Greg Abbott is a traitor.
Maybe they’re suggesting the MAGAians should’ve convoyed to New York instead and volunteered at some shelters, helping the least amongst us like their Bible says.
Context from behind the NYT paywall:



What is a convoy of retired hillbillies driving down to Texas going to do to fix that? Do you think if they go down there and start a-shootin' Messicans that somehow all the undocumented immigrants in New York will dissolve into puddles on the sidewalk?
Just like vampires, if you kill the Master the underlings turn into US citizens.
the underlings turn into US citizens.
Uh-oh. That's the last thing these bigots want.
Unless they're straight, white, and claim to be Christian.
You mean the New York that has a fascist cop (but I repeat myself) as a mayor? The New York whose local Dem leadership is probably the second most conservative and corrupt from lack of competition after that of Chicago? That New York?
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Now if they could just take this lesson and apply it to the rest of the 'information' that is supplied by the media environment they have immersed themselves in.
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