That is a fair point.

F

Now that's just Australia.

Are you fucking sorry??

Yes, I'm a bit of a moron, but I still want to be fair. In every single community I read the same comment on and on again. It goes something like this:

People in name_of_community are x.

With its obvious variation

name_of_community is y.

That always sounds to me both strange and nonsensical. Every large set of beings is, obviously, large. We're always sampling it from a very biased perspective. You may be unlucky in your interactions; or perhaps you're more tactful; or you've connected in a very bad day; etc., etc., etc.. So saying that name_of_community is y is just a Quixotian attack on a windmill.

If that gets you high, elated, if it makes you feel better about yourself because you're not like them, please go ahead and keep enjoying yourself. But also remember you're riding an beaten old horse, wearing a rusty armor, and talking nonsense.

Lurk moar

That is a fair point.

I think getting rid of the karma system would make a world of difference. Keep votes visible on comments and posts but no total tally. All it does is bring tons of bots to farm it, and the kind of people who obsess over fake internet points... Which are always miserable assholes that we don't need. I've really been enjoying how laid back every has been on here in the few days I've been here. I still have no clue how a decent portion of it works but I like figuring it out and seeing everyone actually being pleasnt in the comments.

This.

I guess its just natural to make comparisons between two similar products, but its something I'm sure will settle down over the coming months. I just hope that the community remains how it is and doesn't become toxic in the way Reddir became after gaining the popularity.

no zing doesn't get the upvotes though!

And that's exactly what i want. So over the recycled, rehashed, reposted, or whatever that has become of almost every subreddit.

can we go back to sharing information and solutions and it being at least kind of fun

I feel this. It felt like anything I ever had to comment had been said a dozen times by the time I stumbled into a thread, so I rarely felt any need or desire to post on Reddit. Here, I almost feel obligated to, just to keep the threads going. Part of me is excited to see the activity keep picking up here, but part of me is enjoying actually feeling like my boring-ass comments are worth posting, and also knowing said lame comments aren't going to get heaped with random snark. Feels like the medium size forums I used to frequent back in the 00s and early 10s.

Good lord I can't imagine having had browsed reddit without an account. The default subs were always so awful/toxic. It was nice having a curated list of hobby subs and cat pics and such

You're not allowed to be mild mannered you idiot. Them's the rules. Now engage me in ill intentioned banter. We will meet at dawn.

I don't 100% agree with this posts point. If you said the Reddit comment in many of the subs you'd have the comment deleted for personal attacks. However, I do agree partially with the Lemmy one.

I'm finding myself more willing to engage with differing views while robustly defending my own views and I'll pepper my arguments with some swearing when appropriate.

It's a closer representation of my actual self. I'm a sweary, Northern Englishman irl but I'm fair and give peope a chance and will listen. So that's how I behave here now.

On Reddit I talked more like a polite AI bot with no opinion on anything lest I receive a suspension or get my comment deleted by an overzealous AutoModerator bot for "personal attack".

You twat...

Jk don't shoot me

I'm not, I'm just here to promote "Barbie".

You make a fair point.

That's a fair point. But I'm not. :)

I mean you're not wrong

You called

Moron, reporting for duty!

you fucking moron /s

i love how this is getting downvoted lol

the irony

@TPetrichor@lemmy.world

What community are you subscribed to?

Generally, my experience was welcoming with long posts and orderly discussion.

Depends on your own attitude too. If you are nice, you get treated nice. That's my experience anyway. Maybe not in some communities like politics, I don't follow those...

Lemmy.world got big fast. Almost everything I see from Lemmy.world isn't particularly good because of this. It seems to have a lot of low effort content and more hostility. It's the instance that the laziest group of migrants joined, and it shows. A lot of people didn't look past the instance with the highest user count. No offense to anyone who joined it, this might not be you just some of the people there are this.

Imo I'd say lemmy.world is most Reddit-like of all the Lemmy servers. Though there are always a handful to deal with on any server. Report to admins if you witness toxic, aggressive kind of behaviour.

If you are willing to keep your mind open a bit and listen as much as speak, beehaw.org might be your pace.

"Extreme" redditors lmao

They are flocking to all alternatives, kind of funny Reddit is exactly molded for them and still they want to come to other alternatives.

you fucking moron

There are, statistically, still idiots here too.

I can be rude, but also love genuine discussion. I just don't believe in limiting cuss words on a public anonymous forum like this.

Nobody should give a fuck about shit and fuck when racism and bigotry are more impactful.

I just came from politics and basically it has devolved into name calling and piss poor hypocrisy, salted with thinly veiled death threats. Feels like home

It's how old-Reddit used to be. People didn't over-use the downvote button to disagree. They went to the effort of commenting back to give counterpoints. Redditors became lazy and instead moved to posting unfunny puns and getting trigger happy with votes.

With it discussion died or it became an echo-chamber.

Even in subs where my politics aligned it became dull-as-ditchwater discussing anything because you'd just get people more extreme in an ideology considering themselves 'right' because they had more upvotes.

I got a bit heated there about something yesterday because I had irl stresses going on, and when I calmed down I went and edited my comment to make nicer and apologize for rudeness.

To my surprise, the comment is clearly still upvoted, and the guy I was talking with told me not to sweat it. A few times now I've posted a controversial opinion and observed it, and always, it's at mildly upvoted.

Honestly this makes me wonder how much of the downvotes were from bots or paid shills.

Yeah I managed to find that Reddit dude when arguing with someone. Either that or I was the Reddit dude ... Damn ....

Idk, I think it's interesting to see the general public 'grading' opinions and information.

It definitely plays a huge role in the echo-chamber effect, but it's not like lemmy is diverting from that utility.

The world would be a much better place with Aaron Swartz and more people like him. He was such a good dude.

I'm sorry but I have to ask or it'll bother me for the rest of my life: is it "the motte" (the moth in German), or "them otte", like otter missing an r?

Ok, that is a fair point.

The subset of users that switched to Lemmy is smart enough to get over the "select an instance"-hurdle and fine with being on a smaller website with less content. This results in a different kind of interaction. Poeple here seem to still remember that there are actually living people behind those usernames. If Lemmy keeps growing there will be more chances to have the proper "go fuck yourself"-kind of interaction we are used to.

More and more shills (and people polarized by shills) will work their way in. Personally I believe we're in a honeymoon phase.

To be honest i think it is just number and bell curve. A smaller user base will have less extreme, and strangely more opinions as no critical mass for a general trend to be form. Just my guess and source is trust me bro.

that is a fair point you fucking moron

Nice bait

> What steps did you take today to prevent the spread of gay and abortions?

By blocking you.

Well, if a proportion of people are born gay, then more abortions will mathematically lead to fewer gays, so being anti-abortion is being pro-gay.

I ate a frog.

If you really want to test it, then you've got to post an opinion that disagrees with both of the two main dominant opinions and is a bit more complex rather than just staunchly for/against something.

So say that you're against abortion, except advocate strongly for it in the event of rape or mental disabilities. And say that you're not against gay people, but against same sex marriage and gay people should just be celibate their whole lives.

And if you really want to ruffle some feather, say that you don't think pedophiles should be put in jail. Only child molesters/rapists should be jailed.

If by "old" you mean not using idiotic words like "unalive", putting trigger warnings before the word "shit" and claiming to have DID, ADHD, OCD and Autism all unprompted - then I can live with it skewing "old".

This guy downvotes :p

I've run into a few nasty trolls. The difference is they're banned in short order.

Also, Reddit votes are fuzzed, and I think maybe delayed. It's very echochambery because I never see people with a close number of upvotes and downvotes- it's always one person in a discussion 90+% upvoted and another person(me) 90+% downvoted

It seems like I've noticed a little more of that redditbaggery the last 2 days. Could be that I've just been on here more though.

Some will make their way here, there are alot of tankies on lemmy.ml and lemmygrad.ml who somehow love Russia and China

Oh, believe me, that happens here, too, and it happens in the exact same places it happened most on Reddit (communities dedicated to politics and specific pieces of software).

For instance, the community surrounding ReVanced here seems to be just as toxic as it was on Reddit.

A few weeks ago it was great here. Interactions were mostly positive. But now I am beginning to see the same thing that happened to Reddit happen to Lemmy: people are bringing their color politics into every conversation. Like, a comment can be just a comment, upvoting or downvoting it doesn't mean that you're supporting/betraying Republicans or Democrats.