Donald Trump speech shooting: Gunshots heard at president’s rally – latest news

2 years ago by Captain_CapsLock to c/news

Donald Trump has been rushed off the stage after gunshots were heard as he addressed a crowd at a rally in Pennsylvania.

Looks like someone took some shots at prez candidate Donald Trump at a rally in PA. From the videos I've seen, it looks like he did get grazed.

TransplantedSconie 235 points 2 years ago

Guess some of those 2nd Ammendment guys might be "trying to do something about it" eh Donnie?

This is what you get when you preach hate 24/7. This isn't a gameshow.

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JimSamtanko 14 points 2 years ago
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pivot_root 55 points 2 years ago
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58008 28 points 2 years ago

The shooter and an audience member are dead. How Machiavellian do you think these people are that they'd kill two people for a PR stunt?

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formergijoe 15 points 2 years ago

Yeah I too thought it was staged until bodies showed up. Anyone continuing to say this was staged at this point feels very Alex Jones.

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cabron_offsets 9 points 2 years ago
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afraid_of_zombies 1 point 2 years ago

Child border seperation policy

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rottingleaf -1 points 2 years ago

What? Are you fucking delusional? I understand brown people are not really people for you guys there, but do you realize how many people indirectly and directly "these" people have killed in Syria alone, counting only cases of being simply too lazy?

Killing two people for fucking presidency? You think it's unrealistic?

Anyway, the answer to the question "how Machiavellian" is "fully" for everybody participating in politics, because we are still homo sapiens and our time is just as Machiavellian as Machiavelli's time, there are no naive people there, and if there are no poisonings and assassinations left and right there, that's for the same reason only there are no nukings left and right on the map, not because they are moral.

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teft 14 points 2 years ago

Also right as steam was picking up about Project 2025.

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SaintWacko 3 points 2 years ago

I'm just sick at how much of a coup this is for the Trump campaign. That photo is going to do so much work

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JimSamtanko 2 points 2 years ago
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maynarkh 16 points 2 years ago

I had to do a double take on that abbreviation

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pivot_root 11 points 2 years ago
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SatansMaggotyCumFart 33 points 2 years ago

Unless it was a blood capsule or something the guy is too much of a pussy to pull something like this off.

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foggy 9 points 2 years ago

You recall that he wanted to rip off his suit and display a Superman logo after beating covid, right?

Id say it's on brand.

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DarkCloud 5 points 2 years ago
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SatansMaggotyCumFart 10 points 2 years ago path: 0 11158289 11158628 11158711 11159060 11159170, hotness: undefined, score: 10, children: 2
JimSamtanko -4 points 2 years ago
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DogPeePoo 0 points 2 years ago
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rambling_lunatic 10 points 2 years ago

https://x.com/...

According to a Washington Post reporter that talked with the district attorney, an audience member and the shooter are dead. Not a stunt.

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halcyoncmdr 9 points 2 years ago
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ChillPenguin 10 points 2 years ago

Don't stoop to that level. Assume it was real. Base your conclusions on evidence. Not conspiracies.

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anon_8675309 4 points 2 years ago

My worry is that some lunatic right winger is trying to push us to civil war.

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JimSamtanko 2 points 2 years ago

We’re already there. They just haven’t started the American Violence™ phase yet. Right now we’re in the American Saber Rattling™ phase.

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iquanyin 0 points 2 years ago

i keep thinking of that too…

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ameancow 4 points 2 years ago
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JimSamtanko -2 points 2 years ago
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NotAnotherLemmyUser 1 point 2 years ago

One of the attendees in the bleachers was hit:
https://imgur.com/a/V0SyhKE

News is also saying that 2 are dead: https://news.sky.com/...

Butler County District attorney told the Associated Press (AP) that a shooter was dead and that a rally attendee had also been killed.

This doesn't sound like it was staged.

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afraid_of_zombies 0 points 2 years ago

that a shooter was dead

In other words he can't be questioned

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Botzo -4 points 2 years ago

Absolutely. False flag for sure.

Edit: /s. Half of you are way too serious.

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MeekerThanBeaker 6 points 2 years ago

I dunno. I saw the footage. If the guy from Home Alone 2 was acting, he'd be a lot more blatant.

Plus, wouldn't secret service be in on it? I bet you they can't stand the guy either.

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meleecrits 11 points 2 years ago

From my understanding, his service detail are all true believers. Remember, most LEOs and the like are very right wing.

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AmbiguousProps 1 point 2 years ago

At least two confirmed dead:

Butler County District attorney told the Associated Press (AP) that a shooter was dead and that a rally attendee had also been killed.

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Balinares -7 points 2 years ago

The bullet is totally a crisis actor, you can also see it in that one Reagan clip. /s

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KingJalopy 1 point 2 years ago

Can be seen in the JFK "assassination" as well. Dude gets around. Was younger then and could do some crazy acrobatics back then though.

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JimSamtanko -1 points 2 years ago
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NaibofTabr 3 points 2 years ago

reap what you sow

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IchNichtenLichten 177 points 2 years ago

Half the comments here are proving that people on the right aren’t the only ones who can indulge in stupid conspiracy theories.

It’s depressing as fuck.

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queue 51 points 2 years ago

Q-Anon level thinking that somehow Trump is a mastermind of this. The dude who can't hide stolen files properly, can't lie on his taxes properly, and loses money on a casino, somehow has the ability to rig a false flag assassination attempt.

Are NeoLibs that so far into the Kool-Aid that Dipshit Trump is also a grandmaster 5D chess player of this, while not being able to string words together? It's not like he's even been a good actor.

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Zess 29 points 2 years ago

Trump isn't even the mastermind of his own bowel movements. If this was staged it was all planned by his Russian handlers.

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irreticent 6 points 2 years ago
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afraid_of_zombies -1 points 2 years ago

I am glad Russia has no experience whatsoever with this type of operations

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pivot_root 16 points 2 years ago

It's fun to indulge in, and it doesn't change the fact that shit is about to hit the fan, regardless of whether the shooter was someone with a legitimate desire or a paid gunman. Trump was just given and used a golden ticket to both rally republicans to vote for him, and to incite his diehard followers into another insurrection.

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queue 10 points 2 years ago

Sure, but I don't think being an ironic conspiracy theorist on the levels of Q-Anon is going to make anyone seem better.

Trump was already going to do that. Trump would do it if someone sneezed on him. They already considered him a martyr. They already wanted/have an Enabling Act. The only thing this changes is a bit less blood in him, and 3 people died. Trump already had higher polling numbers.

Fascism is here. Get ready.

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pivot_root 4 points 2 years ago

It won't make anyone here seem better, I agree. But at the same time, it's not like we're going to have the opportunity to joke around like this after the inevitable happens.

Enjoy life while you still can, you know?

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PepperoniNipple -1 points 2 years ago
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afraid_of_zombies -1 points 2 years ago

changes is a bit less blood in him

I admit I saw a red fluid on his face.

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TrickDacy 8 points 2 years ago

Yeah there are some real idiots in this thread. Very depressing

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KingJalopy 3 points 2 years ago

It's representative of the current state of this country honestly.

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tal 2 points 2 years ago

I'd imagine that there are a lot of rather confused individuals in a number of countries, and when tempers run high around politics...shrugs

I don't know if the US would be particularly bad. Would need to have some kind of way to quantify that.

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rottingleaf 3 points 2 years ago

A "false flag assassination attempt" is not as hard to rig if you know it won't be properly investigated.

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afraid_of_zombies 2 points 2 years ago

Neoliberals are pro-trump, plan 2025 calls for going after people with student loans

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halcyoncmdr 1 point 2 years ago

It doesn't take a mastermind. Dictators faking assassination attempts to garner support isn't new.

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queue 9 points 2 years ago

"All right ear me big sniper guy, it's going to be an attempted assassination, the biggest ever, you are going to shoot me close, like danger close but don't worry I'm the best president, really I'm the best and you are the best sniper, the best sniper in the whole country. So you shoot me near the ear, near enough that blood comes out, I know scary stuff, but we are tough guys, the toughest so you do it and I resist and together we make the best attempted staged assassination ever"

  • Shamelessly stolen from a blog
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PepperoniNipple -2 points 2 years ago
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ABCDE 2 points 2 years ago

Your gullibility making you believe a conspiracy theory over your own eyes.

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JoMiran 24 points 2 years ago

What I find sad is that either option is equally plausible. That's how low we have sunk.

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todd_bonzalez 17 points 2 years ago
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MisterFrog 2 points 2 years ago

0.01% chance based on what?

I think being unsure either way makes perfect sense. You gotta admit it doesn't really line up with Trump's character to be posing for the cameras if he's actually being shot at. Though tou're not wrong to say, that that isn't proof of anything. It's subjective feeling.

But, I think saying it's entirely unlikely this was orchestrated isn't right either.

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todd_bonzalez 1 point 2 years ago
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rottingleaf -2 points 2 years ago

The shooter was killed by Secret Service.

Very convenient.

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z500 -2 points 2 years ago

I wonder what the chances are that Russia did this.

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todd_bonzalez 2 points 2 years ago
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JoMiran -4 points 2 years ago

I don't disagree with you, but you completely missed my point.

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todd_bonzalez 13 points 2 years ago
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queue 11 points 2 years ago path: 0 11159257 11159500 11163086, hotness: undefined, score: 11, children: 0
fxt_ryknow 7 points 2 years ago

On this topic as a whole, it's also proving people on the left are in favor of gun violence...

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Kecessa 16 points 2 years ago
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Stovetop 14 points 2 years ago
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UltraGiGaGigantic 1 point 2 years ago

Elections were meant to be bloodless revolutions. Unfortunately with First Past The Post voting, the right options were not available to vote for. But we can change how we vote. We can make peaceful revolution possible with a more representative electoral system.

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Xtallll 13 points 2 years ago

Antifascists have a long history of shooting Natzi.

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SOMETHINGSWRONG 3 points 2 years ago
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SeaJ 0 points 2 years ago

Not every time at all. Franco, Salazar, and Pinochet were not defeated via guns.

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Shardikprime -3 points 2 years ago

And how! I love the irony tho.

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dmtalon 2 points 2 years ago

I was thinking the same thing

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ABCDE -1 points 2 years ago

How do you know their political leanings?

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tal -1 points 2 years ago

What's worse is that the MAGA crowd has Trump and some other figures intentionally playing conspiracies up and adding weight to them. The guys on the left don't even have the excuse of Biden and company bullshitting.

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ProtecyaTec 1 point 2 years ago

Braindead comment.

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mrmanager -3 points 2 years ago

But why would you even think that people on the left are different from people on the right? This is why I'm not into politics myself. Because it all builds on some fake idea that one side is right about everything, even good people, while the other is wrong about everything, and probably are bad people as well.

In reality, both sides are very similar and have much more incommon with eachother than they have with the politicians they are trying to support.

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iknowitwheniseeit 4 points 2 years ago

My understanding is that on average there are differences in psychology between conservative and progressive people. For example, conservative people tend to be okay with unfairness, since from their point of view society is a hierarchy and of course the people at the top are better off.

Anyway, given that conservative and progressive people have a different vision of an ideal society and also different ideas about how to get there, it is reasonable to expect them at act differently. We know that most politically motivated violence is from the right.

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mrmanager 1 point 2 years ago

I'm sure conservatives have the same views on the other side, something negative, based in fear. If you think about it, all of politics is fear of change in a direction we don't want, but others do.

In a family when this happens, family members talk about it and try to understand eachother. At least in a good family. In a dysfunctional one, family members go to war with eachother. And that's what I see in politics. There is no feeling of being humans on a ball together at all.

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PepperoniNipple -4 points 2 years ago
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IchNichtenLichten 6 points 2 years ago

Care to clarify? I can’t make sense of your comment.

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PepperoniNipple 0 points 2 years ago
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IchNichtenLichten -5 points 2 years ago

Ah, got it. You just misinterpreted my comment.

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Botzo -5 points 2 years ago

Just quid pro quo.

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Deceptichum -40 points 2 years ago
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PythagreousTitties 24 points 2 years ago

"blue maga" implies that there is a cult of personality around Biden like there is around Trump. That is simple not what anyone opposed to Trump believes in or rallies around.

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todd_bonzalez -10 points 2 years ago
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PythagreousTitties 1 point 2 years ago

You mean the primarys for this election that Biden is the sitting president? Or primarys four years ago when he was the guy pushed immediately to the top before the primarys?

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cabron_offsets 11 points 2 years ago
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ABCDE 1 point 2 years ago

Based on what? Neither of you know who they support or which way they lean.

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FlyingSquid 162 points 2 years ago

Mr Trump could be seen ducking for cover behind the lectern.

I like attempted assassination victims that don't duck for cover.

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clay_pidgin 31 points 2 years ago

It'll take more than that to stop a Bull Moose!

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z500 28 points 2 years ago

I say we elect that one guy behind him who barely reacts at all

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FlyingSquid 22 points 2 years ago

Honestly, they're all so dead inside up there that I'm amazed any of them even flinched.

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ameancow 26 points 2 years ago
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FlyingSquid 30 points 2 years ago

Oh Trump will absolutely bring them up at every single rally to froth up the crowd. Because he may be the martyr they care about the most, but the martyrs who actually died will be great ammunition (I can't think of a more appropriate word, sorry) to rile up the crowd.

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pivot_root 9 points 2 years ago

That is assuming there is another rally, and today's incident wasn't just the catalyst for a Jan 6 sequel. Knowing his supporters, I'm not holding my breath, unfortunately.

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FlyingSquid 13 points 2 years ago

Considering the number of people here claiming this was Trump staging a false flag, I am absolutely certain there are a similarly large number of people on the right saying this was Biden trying to assassinate Trump and something must be done. So I hope not.

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zarkanian -1 points 2 years ago
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NuXCOM_90Percent 2 points 2 years ago

I just hope they were crucial to Project 2025

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Xtallll 2 points 2 years ago

They chose to go to a rally to support a man who wants to be a "dictator on day one" they made their choice.

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mbp 1 point 2 years ago

Wasn't one an eight year old?

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Xtallll 1 point 2 years ago

I think you're thinking of a school shooting.

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TipRing 120 points 2 years ago

Well things are about to get a whole lot worse. That raised fist is going to be printed on all the right-wing crazy stuff and they will use this to justify violence against anyone opposing Trump.

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pivot_root 47 points 2 years ago

Jan 6 is going to look like pleasant stroll compared to what's coming after this...

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Montagge 10 points 2 years ago

It was going to happen anyways eventually

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umbrella 5 points 2 years ago

pretty much. electoralism has never stopped fascism.

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UltraGiGaGigantic 1 point 2 years ago

End stage capitalism any% WR exploit TAS

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NuXCOM_90Percent 12 points 2 years ago

With the supreme court ruling regarding official acts we have already reached the point where democracy is on its last breaths.

This is the time for escalation that people can't ignore in favor of bickering over if the non fascist is old.

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umbrella -1 points 2 years ago

if only it was that easy

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MapleEngineer 116 points 2 years ago

Remember that Biden is immune thanks to the SCOTUS.

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Mouselemming 61 points 2 years ago

He has a alibi, he's in Delaware. But as long as it was an official act, he could order it.

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MapleEngineer 32 points 2 years ago

He wouldn't do it himself. He would order Seal Team 6 to do t. They wouldn't have missed, though.

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NuXCOM_90Percent 6 points 2 years ago

Nah, this was obviously Hunter Biden in a Gritty Suit. The gunman who got massacred by the cops was just a patsy like Lee Harvey Oswald

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MapleEngineer 2 points 2 years ago

A Libertarian friend from Florida joking suggested Hunter Biden. I think it was Melania.

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monkeyslikebananas2 103 points 2 years ago

I suppose we need even more guns.

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Tire 69 points 2 years ago

This wouldn’t have happened if Trump had a gun on him smh

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AsslessChaps 52 points 2 years ago

Isn’t he banned being a felon

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Drusas 33 points 2 years ago

He sure is.

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otp 10 points 2 years ago

Isn’t he banned being a feeling?

Oh, he's More Than a Feeling

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neidu2 7 points 2 years ago

Technically not a felon until sentencing.

So in the mean time, we can call him:
Presumptive felon nominee
Felony frontrunner
Felon elect

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goferking0 8 points 2 years ago

Or everyone else in the crowd had one

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SatansMaggotyCumFart 8 points 2 years ago

If he was wearing armor made of guns he wouldn’t be bleeding.

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Squorlple 6 points 2 years ago

After giving due remarks, could Biden sign an executive order for sweeping gun control and name it after Trump and present this incident as the impetus?

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FireTower 1 point 2 years ago

No the executive can't create laws.

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ABCDE -3 points 2 years ago

Genius.

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grue 5 points 2 years ago

Disarming the resistance right before a fascist takeover is not the genius move you think it is.

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UltraGiGaGigantic 2 points 2 years ago

Democrats_IRL

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CaptainBasculin 2 points 2 years ago

Practical solution for a practical problem

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magic_smoke 1 point 2 years ago
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p5yk0t1km1r4ge 88 points 2 years ago

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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jlh 109 points 2 years ago

Somebody could shoot Trump on 5th Avenue and nobody important would care.

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finkrat 20 points 2 years ago

Would absolutely not care about Trump. Would absolutely care about the incensed conservative mob with minimal brain cells, rage and guns starting shit

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catloaf 8 points 2 years ago

Their rage is mostly impotent. When push comes to shove, I think the vast majority of them will stay home and continue posting on Truth Social.

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machinin 4 points 2 years ago

Did you miss the whole Jan 6th thing?

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iquanyin -1 points 2 years ago

that’s not what i took from j6…

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Buffalox 4 points 2 years ago

Unless there is someone to direct that rage, they'll have no idea what to do with it, or where to direct it.

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finkrat 2 points 2 years ago

There will always be people that direct that rage, Trump is a cult leader but he's not the only influencer

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morphballganon 71 points 2 years ago
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Treczoks 32 points 2 years ago

I would not put this beyond him.

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winterayars 0 points 2 years ago

I think it would be. Not morally, just i don't think he's competent enough.

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Drusas 25 points 2 years ago

That's called a false flag attack. I could believe it, but I could also believe it was a sincere attack.

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pivot_root 12 points 2 years ago

Being serious about it for a moment, it's extremely unlikely that it's a false flag attack. It's fun to joke about the idea, but the reality is that it doesn't appear to be staged, and he's far too much of a coward to agree to have somebody shoot at him.

Besides that, there's plenty of politically-unaffiliated groups or individuals who would probably want him gone just for how his last term contributed to the abortion bans, reunification of church and state (in some states), government corruption, etc.

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ComicalMayhem 1 point 2 years ago

there's also plenty of fence sitters and centrists who I sincerely believe would vote for him on tough guy vibes alone, despite him being a coward

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IzzyScissor 1 point 2 years ago

Would he be told about this plan? It'd certainly be more convincing if he didn't know, and was set up by the RNC.

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Valmond 1 point 2 years ago

No one needs to actually shoot at him, he can just have a capsule of fake blood in his hand and smear it on himself at the right moment. It's so easy even he can do it.

Could also have been a real shooter.

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HappycamperNZ 0 points 2 years ago

Hes fully too much of a coward to be shot at.

But you're assuming he was shot at. Ducked, hidden away from camera, then blood on him.

No one is ducking a bullet

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JimSamtanko 18 points 2 years ago

Some? They anyone with a functional brain that has been paying attention. Nothing the dude has ever done has been honest.

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pivot_root 9 points 2 years ago

From the article:

Trump stood up and held his fist in the air with what appeared to be blood dripping down his face.

Several secret service agents surrounded him as he put his hand up and appeared to shout “fight” to his supporters who began cheering. 

An excellent PR stunt and call to action for his violent insurrectionist supporters, if you ask me.

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TipRing 3 points 2 years ago

Right after meeting with Orban who just met with Putin? I don't know if I really think that, but I would say it's possible.

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JimmyBigSausage -3 points 2 years ago
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apfelwoiSchoppen 60 points 2 years ago

Christ. Now I'm envisioning his future campaign speeches. "They try to shoot me down, I am an immortal."

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snooggums 16 points 2 years ago

immoral

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Imgonnatrythis 7 points 2 years ago

Campaign? Doesn't really need to even campaign anymore after this. Maybe he will mention it at a state of the confedarcy talk or something. These are such shitty times.

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iquanyin 7 points 2 years ago

we’ll never hear the end of it.

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UltraGiGaGigantic 1 point 2 years ago

We will hear it for another 10 years when he finally has his hamburger heart attack.

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HappycamperNZ -1 points 2 years ago

Sweet, shoot again

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Plum -3 points 2 years ago

Immortan.

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zarkanian 2 points 2 years ago

Immotan-gelo.

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BigMacHole 58 points 2 years ago

So? This happens in Schools all the time?

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lennybird 15 points 2 years ago

You raise a good point. I am far, far less heartbroken by this than Sandy Hook and Uvalde. Republicans made this all possible.

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Redex68 9 points 2 years ago

Well this is gonna raise his chances of winning by a large amount

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Yawweee877h444 8 points 2 years ago

People keep repeating this, but without convincing justification.

All I see is, people who were already energized to solidly vote trump, are now really really solidly already going to really vote for him now. I just don't see how this will get someone to vote trump, who was either going to vote dem or not vote.

People just say things.

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corus_kt 47 points 2 years ago

This fucking shooter could set behind democracy in the US for dozens of years. Land the shots and you martyr him, miss and you galvanize his support. Seriously the conservatives were starting to shift away from the far right after Epstein documents and Project 2025. Now deep state wackos will NEVER go away and resort to crazier armed shit. Seeing people comment that the shooter 'was so close' is insane and makes them no better than political extremists.

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GiddyGap 8 points 2 years ago

There's also a ton of very religious rhetoric being used about Trump now. He's literally becoming the Messiah and a true religious hero fighting whatever evil is out there. God is saving him from bullets and what not. There's going to be some interesting sermons in evangelical churches around the country these next few weeks. Yikes.

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Dkarma -2 points 2 years ago
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Axxys 7 points 2 years ago

Canadian here.

Your chance to save democracy comes at the ballot box, not by shooting candidates.

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UltraGiGaGigantic 3 points 2 years ago

Have "more shots" in the voting booth with Ranked Choice voting. First Past The Post voting artificially limits our magazine size to two shots. We deserve the right to have a standard or even high capacity magazine.

More chances to stop the Republicans. More chances Republicans would pick a more moderate candidate. More representation. More freedom.

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umbrella 44 points 2 years ago

if bolsonaro is any indication, this is just turning him into a martyr.

really terrible job by whoever tried it.

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Sweetpeaches69 36 points 2 years ago

All the martyrdom, none of the benefits of him actually dying.

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chemical_cutthroat 35 points 2 years ago

Biden testing his Presidential Immunity.

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Daxtron2 12 points 2 years ago

Just a little off the top

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RozhkiNozhki 6 points 2 years ago

Gotta start somewhere.

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jas0n 6 points 2 years ago

Official Act™

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Qli 5 points 2 years ago

Just a warning shot

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aramis87 30 points 2 years ago

Ex-prez, please.

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Yawweee877h444 6 points 2 years ago

Looks like one of the bullets actually got him in the ear, as he grabs is ear right away. I thought it was from him getting tackled down by the secret service.

So the shooter was almost a good shot. So close.

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AngryCommieKender 10 points 2 years ago

According to TMZ a secret service agent said the bullet hit his teleprompter and glass shrapnel hit his ear.

https://www.tmz.com/...

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ABCDE 0 points 2 years ago

Was the teleprompter behind him?

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AngryCommieKender -1 points 2 years ago

No clue. I would assume it was in front, I'm merely attempting to spread actual information, unfortunately it is from a less than reputable source, but looking at their timeline, they seem to be covering all possible snippets of information from the scene, without speculating on the motives of the shooter.

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Substance_P 20 points 2 years ago

Take it like Teddy you wimp.

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DogPeePoo 19 points 2 years ago
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HexesofVexes 16 points 2 years ago

One of the videos you can hear "shooter down" before he gets up. Elderly, near death experience, and monumental arrogance would help explain his reaction pretty well!

Shooting him isn't the way - but I can see why someone was scared enough to think it was. Just remember kids, voting for Biden isn't just voting against trumpler - it's saying you would literally prefer someone who is probably senile overhim. It's a solid insult, and you should go out there on polling day to make sure he hears it.

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JimSamtanko 16 points 2 years ago

This is what wins him the election.

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Thteven 27 points 2 years ago

I like candidates that don't get shot at for being pieces of shit.

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JimSamtanko 2 points 2 years ago

Won’t matter at this point. Even if it turns out to be faked. It won’t matter. His base is that fucking stupid. The idea has been planted and it doesn’t even have to be true.

This just got him elected.

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nickhammes 0 points 2 years ago

There's a lot of time, a lot can happen, but this just justified a lot of the nonsense narratives the right wing has been trying to push.

I really hope you're wrong, but it certainly helps him.

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kalleboo 1 point 2 years ago

a lot can happen

OK someone quick shoot at and near-miss Biden as well so the martyrdom evens out!!11

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JimSamtanko 0 points 2 years ago

I’ve never hoped to be wrong more I don’t think, but I fear now that the Cletus brigade is going to go on a fucking rampage.

Innocent lives are gong to be lost over this.

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pivot_root 6 points 2 years ago

This is what wins him the election insurrection.

FTFY. He called on his rabid supporters to "fight." I think we all know what that means.

Several secret service agents surrounded him as he put his hand up and appeared to shout “fight” to his supporters who began cheering. 

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JimSamtanko 4 points 2 years ago

Yep. Many innocent people will die because of this.

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UltraGiGaGigantic 1 point 2 years ago

I'm more worried about the nutzos trying to "defend trump".

Oh and First Past the Post voting artificially limiting our options putting us into this situation.

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JimmyBigSausage -3 points 2 years ago
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Burstar 7 points 2 years ago

As much as I hate to admit this, it wasn't a fake shooting. The 'acting' was way too good to be faked. The mid-word 'stung in the ear' confusion slowly followed by the realization of what happened and the clumsy collapse to the ground are just too believable to think it wasn't real. That said, whether it was a false flag or not is another story.

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JimmyBigSausage 1 point 2 years ago
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pivot_root -1 points 2 years ago
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USSEthernet 4 points 2 years ago

That image was after I heard security yell "shooter's down"

Edit: They also yelled "clear we're clear".

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thoro -1 points 2 years ago

An antended at the rally and the shooter were killed per the AP

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JimSamtanko -4 points 2 years ago

Yup.

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samus12345 14 points 2 years ago

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HappycamperNZ 10 points 2 years ago

I've already called it "the bullet that nearly stabilized the world".

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bilb 14 points 2 years ago

I don't think things would just calm down if Trump got ventilated. Probably the opposite.

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HappycamperNZ 12 points 2 years ago

I have to disagree - these people are empowered because they were immune to the consequences of their actions. This would show you're not immune, that your choices and actions have consequences from those you are making suffer, and that the world doesn't exist in your ivory tower or group think.

The next fascist leader would go in knowing exactly what happened to the predecessor, exactly what the people think, and that they won't take your actions lying down.

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HurlingDurling 2 points 2 years ago

This after hitler, husein, and then other duché bags

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Dempf 5 points 2 years ago

Things will not calm down, Daniel Jackson. They will, in fact, calm up.

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Azzu 1 point 2 years ago

You're delusional if you think a killed Trump would have been good. He'd get replaced by a more evil and intelligent republican which would then definitely win the election.

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AmbiguousProps 14 points 2 years ago path: 0 11158513, hotness: undefined, score: 14, children: 0
Phantom_Engineer 14 points 2 years ago
  • Soap box
  • Ballot box
  • Jury box
  • Bullet box
  • ??? <- you are here
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JonsJava 2 points 2 years ago
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zaphodb2002 0 points 2 years ago

Your comment made me laugh aloud, and then be sad. Bravo.

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UltraGiGaGigantic 1 point 2 years ago

Macaroni and cheese box

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PoopDelivery 14 points 2 years ago
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pivot_root 18 points 2 years ago

From the article:

Trump stood up and held his fist in the air with what appeared to be blood dripping down his face.

Several secret service agents surrounded him as he put his hand up and appeared to shout “fight” to his supporters who began cheering. 

Undoubtedly, this will incite his violent insurrectionist fan base into a repeat of Jan 6.

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Qli -1 points 2 years ago
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Davel23 13 points 2 years ago

Just looks like tourists enjoying a day out to me.

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enleeten 13 points 2 years ago

You know it was Rudy

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cabron_offsets 4 points 2 years ago
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Thorny_Insight 10 points 2 years ago

The fact that mods are actually doing their jobs in this thread restores some of my faith in Lemmy.

Would the world be a better place without Trump? Probably. Is this the way? No.

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JoMiran 10 points 2 years ago

Thoughts and prayers.

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ampedwolfman 9 points 2 years ago

I see blood but I don't see a wound. Are they really going to try and pass that the perfect hole there is a bullet hole? Wouldn't a gun shot wound there take a bigger portion of the ear?

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conditional_soup 19 points 2 years ago

Paramedic here. All parts of the head are very vascular, and so any head injury at all bleeds fantastically. If the top of his ear got clipped, that would be enough to produce that much blood.

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knightly 11 points 2 years ago

Depends on the hit. There's not much blood so it might just be a graze.

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snooggums 3 points 2 years ago

Probably bounced off his thick skull.

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Captain_CapsLock 9 points 2 years ago

Depends on the round. A lot of factors come into play on gunshot wounds, including velocity, mass, resistance, angle. There is even some possibility that the round just barely missed, but the displacement of air is actually what broke skin.

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teft 24 points 2 years ago

There is even some possibility that the round just barely missed, but the displacement of air is actually what broke skin.

That is an urban legend. I've been missed by some pretty large caliber rounds in war and I've seen some pretty large caliber rounds barely miss people. No damage is done. You have to make contact with the round (or vice versa) for it to do damage.

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AplasticAenima -23 points 2 years ago
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teft 3 points 2 years ago

Guy I agree his account history looks a little sus, but isn't that a little bit of the pot calling the kettle black? You have 3 comments since December.

See below.

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Captain_CapsLock 1 point 2 years ago

I'm literally just a dude. I usually don't have time to post, and haven't really felt the need to comment, but I had a rare day off where i felt like I could actually take part in conversation.

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calabast 6 points 2 years ago

Orange Man Gogh

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Crackhappy 0 points 2 years ago

Nice

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Montagge 6 points 2 years ago

sic semper tyrannis

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FlyingSquid 2 points 2 years ago

Are you referencing Brutus or John Wilkes Booth?

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FireTower 4 points 2 years ago

Or the Virginia state motto

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FlyingSquid 5 points 2 years ago

Interesting. TIL. I also learned this from Wikipedia-

A joke referencing the image on the seal that dates as far back as the Civil War, is that "Sic semper tyrannis" actually means "Get your foot off my neck."

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FireTower 2 points 2 years ago

Fairly sure that was where Booth got the motto. He lived in the state for some time.

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Montagge 0 points 2 years ago

Definitely not Booth lol

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FlyingSquid 0 points 2 years ago

Glad to hear it, but I hope you can see why I had to ask.

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Montagge 0 points 2 years ago

I had forgotten he said it. A complete Biden of me!

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westyvw 6 points 2 years ago
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NuXCOM_90Percent 6 points 2 years ago
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JonsJava 3 points 2 years ago
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NuXCOM_90Percent -1 points 2 years ago
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JonsJava 0 points 2 years ago
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NuXCOM_90Percent 4 points 2 years ago
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Snapz 6 points 2 years ago
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Emmie 2 points 2 years ago

Wow you are so calm and level-headed. I would be tempted for twice at least for a good measure. What if they missed it?

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MonkderDritte 0 points 2 years ago

pushed against secret service to face cameras and have his head exposed for a long period of time?

Ok, that's in the range of "you don't have anything to hide if you're innocent", shut up.

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TheDannysaur 0 points 2 years ago

This is the dumbest shit and we need to fucking grow up a bit. These "questions" are asinine and not that hard to explain.

  1. Not denying the incident was reported, but there's a heavy insinuation here that this was set up or manufactured. If so... They needed an entire Secret Service detail, local event police and everyone standing by to be in on it. A couple hundred people are going to be involved and no one leaks it?

  2. "Supposed" gunman. I like how you pivot from "this is probably set up" to "ok even if it was real Trump is capable of worse"

  3. Again, the insinuation of an inside job here. We're going to involve a hundred or more people and no one thought it would be a problem to kill a bystander? Or the gunman was so good he killed a specific plant? And they had a 100% success rate... No one heard the plan and thought "oh this is a bad idea" and spoke out about it?

  4. Big difference between deleting text messages and MURDERING AN AMERICAN to further a political agenda.

  5. Yes. Things happen all the time. Trump people are saying this is to distract from Biden being inept. There's always a convenient time.

  6. Yes you dumbshit he was concerned about his hat because they already had the all clear. The shooter got taken out in seconds. They wouldn't have moved Trump. And they all were saying it was all clear. Also have you ever seen people in an absolute panic? Not the most rational state. Same thing with his shoes. That's ALSO why he took the photo op. They all dove on top of him. They figured out the shooter's location and took him down before Trump even got up.

There's pictures of the fucking bullet in flight. So either that was ALSO manufactured (a member of the press willingly heard the plan ahead of time and doctored a photo or they actually shot a bullet inches away from Trumps head AND captured it). But no let's just get Trump, a bumbly ass fuck to orchestrate this perfectly. I'm sure he had it a planned to go down, and everyone covered him and he pulled out a razor blade, cut his ear, and put it away, all perfectly executed and no one caught anything on camera from any of the dozens of angles.

This shit is so fucking stupid and I'm so sick of hearing about it. These points all rely on the most ass backwards way of thinking where dozens of people are in on this conspiracy and relies on all of them bring cool with killing someone to make it good for Trump.

Get this shit outta here. This doesn't deserve the pixels on the screen used to illuminate this nonsense. Be a fucking grown up. We're going to have to figure out a real way to beat Trump, not pretend this was some false flag bullshit. Accept reality. Be a goddamn adult.

I'm not even saying you're wrong for questioning, but I am saying you are wrong because the sheer volume of things that would need to occur for this theory to be even remotely possible is so ridiculous, I would consider aliens an equally plausible situation.

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BugKilla 5 points 2 years ago
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Captain_CapsLock 126 points 2 years ago

It's not clear at all that that's what happened. It is completely plausible that someone would shoot a firearm at a candidate in a hotly contested presidential election. Let wait for evidence to roll in yeah?

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ChihuahuaOfDoom 21 points 2 years ago

You know for a fact that if the shoe were on the other foot, this is exactly the rhetoric we'd be hearing.

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FlyingSquid 60 points 2 years ago

So let's not do what they do and live in an evidence-based world and not an emotion-based one.

The "facts don't care about your feelings" party doesn't care about facts and spends a lot of time on how their feelings are hurt.

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octopus_ink -6 points 2 years ago

My evidence (in addition to the weirdness of his reaction, and the convenient blood) - has any article mentioned a shooter being seen/shot/arrested/known to exist? I can't remember a time where there was a shooting and no article said ANYTHING about a shooter, only about the shots. Nothing could be better for the Trump campaign than for him to be "almost" assassinated.

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Captain_CapsLock 49 points 2 years ago

You're right. Wouldn't surprise me one bit. But I still hold all parties to a standard of honest discourse.

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bolexforsoup 16 points 2 years ago

Yes it would be the case. Should we start behaving like right wing conspiracy theorists now?

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Lifecoach5000 15 points 2 years ago

Doesn’t make it right or acceptable.

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Cryophilia 7 points 2 years ago

Yeah but that's because Republicans are fuckin idiots

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retrospectology 23 points 2 years ago

I wouldn't be surprised either way, honestly. It would be the right timing for a false flag though for sure.

But then on the other hand this is the prescribed treatment for tyrants, per our fore-bearers.

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bolexforsoup 14 points 2 years ago

You’re doing what they do.

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BugKilla 1 point 2 years ago

Yes. You are correct. On reflection I should have put quotes around it as it was intented to convey that but not actually imply that it was the case. It is good you called it out.

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shortypants 0 points 2 years ago
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xrun_detected 4 points 2 years ago
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Agrivar 1 point 2 years ago
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doodledup -19 points 2 years ago

How can you wish a death on a human being? How much of a POS can you actually be?!

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KLISHDFSDF 14 points 2 years ago

Not who you're replying to but its very easy to wish death (or the sudden thanos-ing) of objectively evil people.

Don't believe Trump is objectively evil? Here's what the man stands for and its not even a comprehensive list.

Trump stole money from kids with cancer [1] [2] [3]. Trump wanted to kill people despite evidence they were innocent [4] [5] [6]. Trump raped his wife and E Jean Carroll [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12]. Trump lied about not knowing E Jean Carroll yet confused her with his wife [9]. Trump sexually assaults women [13] [14] [15]. Trump walked in on half-naked underage children [16] [17] [18] [19] [20] [21] [22]. Trump was good friends with known rapist and child trafficker Jeffrey Epstein [23] [24] [25] [26] [27] [28] . Trump is a 34 time convicted felon [29] [30] [31] [32] [33] [34] [35]. Trump sowed distrust by refusing to release his taxes like every other recent president has done since the 70's [36]. Trump betrayed the country when he subverted the 2020 election by falsely claiming victory [37], attempting to delay the certification process [38] and demanding Georgia officials to "find" votes for him [39]. Trump incited an insurrection in an attempt to stop the electoral vote count leaving five people dead [40] [41] [42] [43] [44] [45]. Trump appointed his unqualified family to top administration roles [46] [47]. Trump withheld aid to Ukraine unless they found dirt on Joe Biden and his son [48]. Trump was impeached for abusing his presidential power by using the office for personal political gain (pressuring Ukraine to dig dirt on the Biden's) to the detriment of national security [48]. Trump sided with racists by calling them "very fine people" [49]. Trump imposed a "Muslim travel ban" [50] [51] [52]. Trump lied about his inauguration crowd size [53] [54] [55]. Trump doubled fees at his resort hotel after becoming president to profit from the presidency [56]. Trump has no respect for veterans and disrespected prisoner of war John McCain [57] [58] [59]. Trump appointed Ben Carson, a neurosurgeon, to secretary of housing and development [60]. Trump spread misinformation by suggesting vaccines cause autism [61] [62]. Trump lied by falsely accusing Obama of spying on the Trump campaign [63]. Trump cut pandemic early warning program which likely made the pandemic worse when it broke out 3 months later [64] [65]. Trump cut corporate taxes to lowest rate since 1939, giving the mega rich a break while continuing to take from the poor - like a reverse robin hood! [66] [67]. Trump had protestors sprayed with tear gas so he could attend a photo op and take a picture with an upside down bible. [68].

Sources

[1] https://www.forbes.com/...

[2] https://www.msn.com/...

[3] https://abcnews.go.com/...

[4] https://www.nbcnews.com/...

[5] https://www.politifact.com/...

[6] https://apnews.com/...

[7] https://www.bbc.com/...

[8] https://www.washingtonpost.com/...

[9] https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65486437

[10] https://www.nytimes.com/...

[11] https://www.9news.com.au/...

[12] https://www.independent.co.uk/...

[13] https://www.independent.co.uk/...

[14] https://www.vox.com/...

[15] https://www.reuters.com/...

[16] https://people.com/...

[17] https://www.snopes.com/...

[18] https://www.foxnews.com/...

[19] https://www.politifact.com/...

[20] https://www.yahoo.com/...

[21] https://www.independent.co.uk/...

[22] https://nypost.com/...

[23] https://www.nbcnews.com/...

[24] https://www.cosmopolitan.com/...

[25] https://www.esquire.com/...

[26] https://www.vanityfair.com/...

[27] https://nymag.com/...

[28] https://www.businessinsider.com/...

[29] https://www.nytimes.com/...

[30] https://www.reuters.com/...

[31] https://www.politico.com/...

[32] https://www.latimes.com/...

[33] https://www.economist.com/...

[34] https://variety.com/...

[35] https://www.cnn.com/...

[36] https://time.com/...

[37] https://www.cnn.com/...

[38] https://www.cnn.com/...

[39] https://www.cnn.com/...

[40] https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55640437

[41] https://www.aljazeera.com/...

[42] https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56004916

[43] https://apnews.com/...

[44] https://www.nytimes.com/...

[45] https://www.washingtonpost.com/...

[46] https://www.politifact.com/...

[47] https://en.wikipedia.org/...

[48] https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39945744

[49] https://www.motherjones.com/...

[50] https://en.wikipedia.org/...

[51] https://immigrationhistory.org/...

[52] https://www.npr.org/...

[53] https://www.theguardian.com/...

[54] https://www.theguardian.com/...

[55] https://www.politifact.com/...

[56] https://www.cnbc.com/...

[57] https://www.politifact.com/...

[58] https://time.com/...

[59] https://apnews.com/...

[60] https://archive.curbed.com/...

[61] https://www.independent.co.uk/...

[62] https://www.independent.co.uk/...

[63] https://www.bbc.co.uk/...

[64] https://www.theguardian.com/...

[65] https://www.livescience.com/...

[66] https://www.taxpolicycenter.org/...

[67] https://www.bbc.com/news/world-43790895

[68] https://edition.cnn.com/...

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Binette 2 points 2 years ago

Username checks out... Damn...

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doodledup -7 points 2 years ago

You're objectively evil. Not reading past your first paragraph as it already makes every source after that irrelevant.

You feel really smart adding references and sources to your deathwish right? I hope you realize how ironic that looks.

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KLISHDFSDF 1 point 2 years ago

You’re objectively evil.

Typical Trump apologist mentality, projecting their own views and not backing up their claims.

Not reading past your first paragraph as it already makes every source after that irrelevant.

Cheers! 🍻 Stay ignorant.

You feel really smart adding references and sources to your deathwish right? I hope you realize how ironic that looks.

Just trying to help others educate themselves on the facts, but there's only so much you can do when people are willing to stay ignorant 🤓

EDIT: I should add - please, at the very least, read up on the paradox of tolerance. Your ignorance only helps the enemy.

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Default_Defect 7 points 2 years ago

A pissed off POS, fuck Donald Trump.

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doodledup -3 points 2 years ago

Right. I'm also all for anarchy. Let's storm the capitol and kill everyone we don't like. Sounds familiar? Well. Maybe you're not much better than him wantinf him dead.

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Default_Defect 5 points 2 years ago

He's a rapist, a felon, and countless other things. I AM BETTER THAN HIM.

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JonsJava 0 points 2 years ago
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recapitated 4 points 2 years ago

Where was Nikki Haley? She was in charge of security!

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Today 4 points 2 years ago

Almost

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Captain_CapsLock 2 points 2 years ago

Come on man, you're making me laugh at someone getting shot. XD

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skvlp 2 points 2 years ago

How is it possible that no one behind him is hit?

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AmbiguousProps 9 points 2 years ago

At least one rally attendee was killed:

Butler County District attorney told the Associated Press (AP) that a shooter was dead and that a rally attendee had also been killed.

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ShadowRam 4 points 2 years ago

One interview with person at the rally, said there were 3 med-evac's

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catloaf 2 points 2 years ago

Reports are coming in that at least one person was.

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PepperoniNipple 2 points 2 years ago
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nobleshift 1 point 2 years ago
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Sam_Bass -1 points 2 years ago

The crowing will begin soon

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calabast -2 points 2 years ago

Orange Man Gogh

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TruffleStuff -2 points 2 years ago

It's a real shame...

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DogPeePoo -8 points 2 years ago

Fake news

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