Every support thread on Reddit is literally this now

a year ago by popcar2 to c/mildlyinfuriating

Cypher 445 points a year ago
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Hadriscus 113 points a year ago path: 0 18658817 18660275, hotness: undefined, score: 113, children: 9
Albbi 46 points a year ago

I wish I'd done that. I deleted my 12 year old account right before learning about these tools.

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7U5K3N 21 points a year ago

Thanks! Doing this tomorrow

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Hadriscus 16 points a year ago

Let it run during the night, mine took 20 hours or so to finish up. Reddit throttles the requests you make to its API, so it's slow

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Scotty_Trees -10 points a year ago
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phantomwise 23 points a year ago

I don't either, but if no one ever tries github projects with zero stars how are they supposed to get stars?

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Seefin 16 points a year ago

Ah yes because the thing that makes 140 LOC you can read and understand in five minutes trustworthy is the number of other people who clicked a star button

/s

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BurgerBaron 8 points a year ago path: 0 18658817 18660275 18661446 18663377, hotness: undefined, score: 8, children: 0
dickalan 6 points a year ago

Yes, because large corporations on the Internet definitely wouldn’t try to sway this metric at all, get off your own ass man fuck you

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potustheplant 5 points a year ago

Read it then. It's literally a single script with 140 lines.

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muhyb 312 points a year ago

Well, this happens if you don't respect your users.

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ccunning 214 points a year ago

…or your moderators
…or your third party developers

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riquisimo 8 points a year ago

...or MY AXE!!

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macaw_dean_settle -2 points a year ago

Fuck the mods; bunch of thin skinned morons.

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ccunning 36 points a year ago

You get what you pay for…

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ccunning 6 points a year ago

I just realized this could be taken at least a couple different ways.

The way I intended was, Reddit relies fully on the free labor of volunteers for moderation.

It wasn’t intended to be a comment on not paying for Reddit. I believe all users on Reddit provide free value to the company whether by posting, commenting, or voting.

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bear 22 points a year ago

Fuck the owners and resulting enshitifacation too.

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Tollana1234567 10 points a year ago

now hiding history to avoid bot detection by other users, but they are banning people allegedly to be bots, but not actual propaganda bots themselves.

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Carighan 4 points a year ago

I mean some, yeah. It's a community-run system, so naturally for every bad user, there's a bad mod, too.

But there's also a good mod for every good user, basically.

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purplerabbit 172 points a year ago

When Reddit's API debacle happened lots of people moved away. Some deleted their comments, some edited them with a message in protest. But sadly the consequences is that a lot of history and useful information got lost in the process.

I don't know how I feel about this. I understand why it's done and even why it needs to be done, but it still makes me sad considering the amount of times where Reddit saved me from massive headaches with IT stuff and so on...

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Roopappy 178 points a year ago

As someone who deleted their posts... yes. The goal was to make Reddit worse, by removing my contributions to it because they forgot where their value came from.

My content had some small value to them. They didn't deserve it.

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dickalan 10 points a year ago

I hope they delete all your stuff when your account gets banned because I’ve left at least three of those in my wake

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Fredthefishlord 35 points a year ago

I'm fairly certain they do not

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dickalan 9 points a year ago

Cool they can have all my toxic hatred against Republicans for their AI to learn from

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AmbitiousProcess 18 points a year ago

They don't delete your content, they just redact your username and disassociate each individual comment from your larger profile so nobody could, for example, click on the deleted user who posted a comment in r/abc and see they also posted a particular comment in r/xyz.

The reason tools like Redact (many of them all use this same name lol) have taken off in popularity is because they delete, or redact the contents of your posts before you delete the account, thus making even that vestigial data worthless.

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truthfultemporarily 6 points a year ago

Its not guaranteed. They may keep a copy of the original post around.

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Appoxo 2 points a year ago

I believe they are still there but hidden.

Quite possibily it depends on the type of ban you received (e.g. spam vs inflicting harm on xyz)

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dickalan 1 point a year ago

I know better than to threaten people online. It was all stupid political bullshit.

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ReallyActuallyFrankenstein -12 points a year ago

I hear these justifications a lot, but the conclusion doesn't follow from the premises.

The value of the archival data that can be affected by deleting or editing is almost entirely only user-accessed value. Reddit isn't harmed at all from the edits. It primarily needs active regular users to improve its stock value. Alternatively, it can sell archival data for AI training.

Editing old comments removes neither value source from Reddit. You moved away from it so deprived it of both the material value of new comments and the statistical value of being an active user. Reddit also assuredly has saved data from before the API issue and can likely spot and clean the mass edits to sell the data from training purposes.

Conversely, the value to users and society is high. So many solutions to problems that are gone forever. The Internet is decaying already and it gets harder to find useful information, and those leaving decided to just burn down a library of Alexandria.

It's their - and your - right, sure. They're by definition done on comments the user owns. But this is just punching desperate Internet users in the face hoping it gives Reddit a bloody nose.

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glimse 37 points a year ago

Would you sign up for a social media website if all the tech support posts looked like the above?

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WhiskyTangoFoxtrot 20 points a year ago

I wouldn't sign up for a social media website if all the useful posts were from before June, 2023.

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maximumbird 11 points a year ago

This. Good points above an all, but they missed this being the main point. imo

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expr 21 points a year ago

If that were true, then why did Reddit respond to the mass deletions (that's what people did at first, not edits) by undeleting the comments?

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the_crotch 9 points a year ago

those leaving decided to just burn down a library of Alexandria.

More like I had my book taken off the shelves because the librarians are dicks

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ReallyActuallyFrankenstein 0 points a year ago

Ah, where are those books now? Which shelves can I find them on?

I get the metaphorical point, but it's a point without effect. "Removing with no possible present or future access" is the same as "burning" for society's purposes.

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Tollana1234567 3 points a year ago

the highest value content, is mostly political anyways, its draws in more money for a platform, because users are addicted ragebait.

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Auth 27 points a year ago

Reddit undeleted a lot of the content removed during the API debacle. This comment must have been after that because you can see the latest comment is post API changes.

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elvith 17 points a year ago

That's why I didn't close my account and still do a new turn of mass edits every 2-3 months. I have nothing deleted, just constantly overwritten. I get regularly banned from some subreddits after each wave, probably because some comments may trigger some sort of spam detection and edits alert the mods then.

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Tollana1234567 8 points a year ago

reddit can detect if you did massedit as suspicious activity, a normal person cant change multiple comments at once, but with a script they will see it as botting.

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potustheplant 4 points a year ago

The sad part of it is that they (reddit) can still access that deleleted information and sell it for AI training. Even as a "power" user you can use websites that "undelete" that content. The only ones truly affected by this are people randomly browsing reddit.

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Trainguyrom 4 points a year ago

I mean it does reduce the value of the content that users created on reddit if a ton of random comments were deleted in protest. Every time you hit a thread like the OOP it reduces reddit 's value to the individual, and in aggregate it reduces reddits value

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potustheplant 1 point a year ago

Did you actually read my comment? That's an issue casual users have. If you want to see deleted comments, there's a way to do that.

The only thing that actually hurts reddit is if people stop using it an generating new content.

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wols 2 points a year ago

Yup, Reddit fucked us all after we gave them our knowledge for free.
Trick people into thinking they're contributing to a commons, steal the contributions and run. Very understandable that many people decided to retaliate after the betrayal.
I really hope decentralized knowledge bases take off. Aggregating niche knowledge from experts and non-experts everywhere the internet touches is such a valuable proposition!

I had like one useful comment posted to Reddit. I've left it up, and once every few months I get a comment being appreciative for the info.
Reddit gets the traffic because of Google indexing the original post of a user with the problem. People are going to visit it regardless of whether they'll find the answer or not. In fact, if they don't find it, they're more likely to keep browsing posts in the hope of finding something.

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fading_person 1 point a year ago
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StarryPhoenix97 1 point a year ago
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irelephant 103 points a year ago

I get that it's annoying, but reddit deserves to burn.

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starman2112 20 points a year ago

Reddit as a company is 100% unaffected by this

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JackbyDev 29 points a year ago

To an extent they are. Part of the appeal of Reddit was that you could find good answers there. But yeah, the idea that "long term their reputation may suffer" is hardly affecting them in any demonstrable way now.

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Ledivin 13 points a year ago

100% unaffected? It makes their data worth a lot less for AI training. Even if they keep comment history, these are edits - how do you determine which edit to use? Using all of them poisons the data, and picking one risks doing the same.

On top of that, reddit has quickly become a non-source for opinions... I used to append "reddit" to any search where I wanted candid feedback, but absolutely would never do that these days. That's less traffic, which is less ad money, which comprises the vast majority of their revenue. Reputation is virtually the only thing that matters for search, and Reddit's reputation has been sliding for years.

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null_dot 9 points a year ago

People paying reddit aren't training their models by scraping the web ui.

The original comments are still in the database, which is what you'd pipe into an LLM.

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14th_cylon -1 points a year ago

That’s less traffic, which is less ad money, which comprises the vast majority of their revenue.

and how many people do the same thing you do? they don't really care about 1% of dedicated users...

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Ledivin 6 points a year ago

...you're joking, right? There is not a company in the world that is happy to ignore 1/100th of their revenue disappearing.

Is it going to kill reddit? Of course not. Are they "100% unaffected?" Of course not.

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dil 1 point a year ago

the more technical helpful users are likely to do it, you think the vast majority of users give helpful comments?

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irelephant 4 points a year ago

Sure, but the users are.

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princessnorah 67 points a year ago

Good! The users add all the value to that site, moderate if for free and they couldn't even not be cunts about it.

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Tollana1234567 7 points a year ago

they want propaganda bots mostly now on reddit.

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Atomic 6 points a year ago

Good for whom?

There's been loads of times where I've looked everywhere for a solution, finally finding it on google page 10+ in an obscure reddit thread with like 10 votes and 4 comments where someone had found a weird, illogical solution to your exact problem, that actually worked.

It's a shame it went to shit. The real losers are us, we lost a lot of knowledge.

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princessnorah 4 points a year ago

That doesn't mean I think they should get to keep that stuff. Sure, we lost a lot of knowledge there, and that sucks. But the company lost out and pushed their IPO way back for it and I enjoy seeing Spez suffer after what he did to Aaron's legacy.

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Atomic 4 points a year ago

If that's how you feel, that's how you feel. But I personally doubt Reddit as a company have lost out. They still have all the data. And they still have a massive user-base. I'm sure Spez is suffering real bad with his hundreds of millions....

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princessnorah 3 points a year ago

I feel like they lost prestige more broadly but I'm obviously bias being here on Lemmy. We see I guess, I predict them tanking after their IPO.

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eager_eagle 66 points a year ago

good, but it's not enough

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Kolanaki 60 points a year ago

The comment says removed, but the user says deleted.

And because of the large number of people who not only left Reddit, but burnt bridges in doing so by using tools to delete or garble their entite post history, it's hard to tell if this was Reddit's doing or just that of a fed-up user who deleted their own posts when leaving the site.

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popcar2 70 points a year ago

it’s hard to tell if this was Reddit’s doing or just that of a fed-up user who deleted their own posts when leaving

The latter, Reddit doesn't remove your comments and posts when your account gets deleted.

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chiliedogg 38 points a year ago

I used a tool to overwrite mine right before the API bullshit went into effect, but searching for my account, it appears they were all restored.

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aramis87 28 points a year ago

I overwrote all my comments, then deleted them, and they've been restored as well. Anyone know a working tool to permanently delete stuff?

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Gullible 28 points a year ago

Give your account to a European user and have them order Reddit to delete everything via gdpr.

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Krudler 9 points a year ago

There is none.

I'm not going to post links and supporting evidence, I can't be bothered.

But creators and admins have gone on the record saying you never ever can remove or delete a comment, and every edit is saved. And furthermore, they just restore comments at their whim.

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NuXCOM_90Percent 9 points a year ago

They repeatedly restored deleted content during the "protests". Which is why most of us encouraged people to leave their accounts open to go re-wipe when Reddit corporate stopped caring.

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aramis87 6 points a year ago

I've gone back and checked a couple times, this is the first time I've seen them restored.

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chiliedogg 3 points a year ago

But now the API-based tool i used no longer functions

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Kn1ghtDigital 14 points a year ago

The former is data they can index for Google searches to make Reddit more valuable as a resource. Reddit will never remove your data.

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Tollana1234567 1 point a year ago

yea it doesnt, unless you were shadowbanned. if you got permabanned or delted your account your history isnt gone. shadowban however gets all posts hidden by other users, except yourself.

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Canconda 13 points a year ago

tools to delete or garble their entite post history

I had a 6 year account when the API scandal hit. Paid a small fee to deny reddit whatever 2 cents my comments are worth.

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VeryVito 21 points a year ago

13 years for me. I killed so much content.

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RickyRigatoni 4 points a year ago

reddit comments only say removed when the mods or admins remove it. maybe the dude used a script to make all his comments say "I hate Reddit I am going to mail a pipebomb to carlos mencia in retaliation" and reddit nuked them.

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WhyIHateTheInternet 1 point a year ago

What's wrong with doing that?

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RickyRigatoni 1 point a year ago

unfortunately some souls are lost and still think carlos mencia is funny

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WhyIHateTheInternet 2 points a year ago

SAD!

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friend_of_satan 3 points a year ago
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trk 58 points a year ago

I did the same.

Reddit showed it didn't give a fsck about my user experience with their banning of third party apps, but they still wanted to sell the content I put the effort in to providing.

Screw you guys. You want to make money off hosting my words, whatever. But don't stick a pineapple up my arse at the same time and expect me not to feel it.

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PalmTreeIsBestTree 2 points a year ago

I still use old reddit and I have an extension on iOS that modifies it to be usable on a phone. However, if old Reddit ends up getting the axe then I’m done for good.

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PlantPowerPhysicist 48 points a year ago

Thanks for getting me to finally run one of these scripts to scramble and delete everything in my old account. Fuck every American corporation and their user experience.

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poopkins 34 points a year ago

They restored all my comments a few months later, so I've tried it again by editing all my comments to gibberish.

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thermal_shock 6 points a year ago path: 0 18665568 18666111 18671387, hotness: undefined, score: 6, children: 1
poopkins 4 points a year ago

Exactly the tool I've used. I purged it about a year ago and randomly discovered that everything was restored about a month ago. I don't know when it was restored, though.

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eezeebee 44 points a year ago

Thanks, SPEZ!

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dohpaz42 21 points a year ago

Fuck that pedophile wannabe.

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AmbitiousProcess 8 points a year ago

Don't forget racist, too!

we didnt ban them for being racist - spez

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kaotic 42 points a year ago

I really need to go back and delete all my posts, I just dropped it and never went back.

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tama 22 points a year ago
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axEl7fB5 5 points a year ago

just say something that will you get you banned and they will delete all your comments and posts and your profile. they will appear as [deleted]. much easier tbh

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14th_cylon 7 points a year ago

they will appear as deleted, but they are not really deleted, they still have them in the database and still make money selling them 🤷‍♂️

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axEl7fB5 2 points a year ago

would redact solve this?

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Tollana1234567 2 points a year ago

make sense if reddit is a AI whore, and wants the money, what better way to have extra content from delete comments.

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QueenHawlSera 2 points a year ago

I had to manually delete my account when I got banned

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Karjalan 1 point a year ago

I do wonder how much they soft delete stuff, so they can keep the data to sell. Also if they keto a history, do even if you manually delete/edit, do they have a copy on a server somewhere?

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JcbAzPx 2 points a year ago

Not sure about edits, but its highly likely they still have every deleted post. Text is small and highly compressible, so there's no reason to delete it. So it makes more sense to keep it to sell later.

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beejboytyson 8 points a year ago

Does that help the fight? I was under the impression that they got to keep all the old info

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kuhli 21 points a year ago

They do, but it makes the site less useable for people, which is a win

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Tollana1234567 2 points a year ago

its pretty hostile to new users, since it sees a new acc as potential spam. reddits goal is to become like FB, just run by bots, but importantly propaganda bots, so less effor to deal with users.

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Iceblade02 9 points a year ago

What I did was mass edit all my comments. According to reddit customer support (about a year ago at the time), they do not retain old versions of edited comments.

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astutemural 7 points a year ago

I used Redact a while back. Super easy. First replaced everything with filler text, then deleted. Just in case mods have auto-rollback for deletion.

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Samskara -15 points a year ago

You‘re harming people looking for help and support more than you harm Reddit.

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JackbyDev 15 points a year ago

And Reddit took people's goodwill to give free advice their and generate revenue from it for granted.

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Shayeta 10 points a year ago

Which harms Reddit more than anything, as people will look elsewhere.

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NewNewAugustEast 8 points a year ago

Reddit already only allows Google to scrape them now, so as far as I am concerned it is a dead site. Removing my comments is worth it to not feed the monopoly that is Google.

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Tollana1234567 6 points a year ago

50% of the site is basically bots/propaganda bots. people dont realize they are responding to bots most of the time.

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MedicPigBabySaver 40 points a year ago

Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.

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SoftestSapphic 25 points a year ago

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SugarCatDestroyer 6 points a year ago
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REDACTED 4 points a year ago

What a spezhole

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PieMePlenty 37 points a year ago

Yeah.. I did this too when leaving. Made a small app to edit and delete every comment I made. I actually had a useful IT related self hosting post which was also nuked. I guess that's the price the whole community had to pay for reddits thirst for profit.

Although, long ago, I heard of a rumor; all of reddit was frequently backed up and available for download. Is that still a thing? Was it ever a thing?

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Ray3x10e8 7 points a year ago

Can you post your app on GitHub? Many of us would love it. (Especially now if I ever need to visit the US I would have to delete all my JD Vance couch fucker comments)

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PieMePlenty 8 points a year ago

Someone in this thread posted a similar thing that's probably better. When I left, there wasn't anything like it so I had to cobble something together.

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ChickenLadyLovesLife 5 points a year ago

I heard of a rumor; all of reddit was frequently backed up and available for download

I don't know about "available for download" (probably not), but: modern websites tend to have their content stored in a database, and databases are (or should be) regularly backed up to tape drive or optical disks or whatever. This means, fundamentally, that everything ever posted to a social media site like reddit or facebook will be in existence permanently, regardless of what efforts users take to subsequently delete their history from the current instance of the database.

The only way to truly "delete your data" would be to re-mount each old backup and delete the data in each of them before re-backing them up (or else destroying all the backups). No social media site does this or even could do this. Furthermore, when it comes to keeping your comment history out of the clutches of AI, I would almost guarantee that when a site like reddit sells its data to companies to train the AI on, they are selling old backups from before users started mass-deleting their posts.

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chicken 2 points a year ago

There was pushshift, but it's locked down since the API thing, there's pullpush.io, but that seems down atm. Also there is reveddit. I think most or all of these do not store content that has been deleted by the user though.

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Almacca 35 points a year ago

I wish I'd deleted all my comments and posts before deleting my account.

Don't forget they're also selling all your freely provided content to AI scrapers as well. Fuck Reddit.

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dickalan 5 points a year ago

I wonder what happens to your account when you get banned

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ohshit604 21 points a year ago

Believe it or not, straight to the AI farm.

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Almacca 6 points a year ago

From what I can tell, it continues to exist, but you can no longer post. They're not gonna just give up all that free data.

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Tollana1234567 2 points a year ago

shadowban will however keeps your posts hidden from the public, but not from reddit itself.

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Almacca 1 point a year ago

This post of mine still comes up.

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dickalan 2 points a year ago

Cool they can have all my toxic hatred against Republicans for their AI to learn from

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starlinguk 3 points a year ago

They will just put them back. Your stuff isn't really deleted.

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gravitywell 34 points a year ago

I made sure to remove all my posts before i left when they started blocking anonymous vpn users. 3 accounts across 15+ years all gone because of their stupid policies.

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foggy 34 points a year ago

Good.

They went public and made bank on free user input. Those users rebelled so the platform would suck.

It may still be standing but I feel we won over a year ago.

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cupcakezealot 31 points a year ago

stackoverflow be like

"hey i have this problem and i can't figure it out"

posted 10 years ago

"nevermind i figured out it so all is good"

posted 10 years ago

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piefood 13 points a year ago

Even worse is: "Here's a link to where I found the solution"

404

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MidsizedSedan 30 points a year ago path: 0 18687610, hotness: undefined, score: 30, children: 0
RagingRobot 28 points a year ago

Awesome!!! Post your questions here instead

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INHALE_VEGETABLES 8 points a year ago

What kind of a boy is spez?

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RedPostItNote 10 points a year ago

The fascist kind. A lot of high karma accounts got banned for no reason this last year. Destroying their own creation. Sad.

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INHALE_VEGETABLES -2 points a year ago

Cool it with the antifa remarks.

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RedPostItNote 2 points a year ago

The anti fascist remarks?

Do you have a problem with anti fascists?

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SippyCup 6 points a year ago

A reliable source tells me Spez likes to diddle kids and has a micropenis.

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INHALE_VEGETABLES 2 points a year ago

Psst hey kid he's also a lil piss boy.

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Jarix 4 points a year ago

A greedy little piggy boy

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Jyek 5 points a year ago

Why? so it can be found in search engines when people are looking for answers? Sadly, Lemmy is terrible for searching for answers. Lemmy will likely never replace the true benefits of reddit, search engine indexing for solutions.

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RagingRobot 2 points a year ago

Who cares about the search engines? Ask your questions here and get an answer. It just takes longer

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Jyek 2 points a year ago

Have you ever been on a forum? Like even once? Sort by New and you'll find dozens of posts where the thread is shitting all over someone for asking something that has already been asked before.

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RagingRobot 2 points a year ago

We are in a forum right now dude lol.

But yeah I know how it can be you just need to find a friendly place. Like here!!

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Treczoks 27 points a year ago

WTF? View removed comment?

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ChickenLadyLovesLife 8 points a year ago

Welcome to "soft delete", where database entries are marked with a "deleted" flag instead of being actually deleted. Makes it trivial to restore things a user has "deleted". Actually, even without soft deletes, modern databases maintain an audit trail which tracks all changes made anywhere, which also makes it easy to restore "deleted" items. And actually actually, databases are regularly backed up and when a user "deletes" their data the sites don't go into the backups and delete the data there, so everything anyone posts is technically in existence forever (not really because because backups won't last forever but they can last a very long time).

I'm sure that when reddit sells its data to companies to train their AI on, they're selling backups from before users started mass-deleting their histories.

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popcar2 5 points a year ago

It's for alternate Reddit front-ends and rarely ever works.

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sk1nnym1ke 1 point a year ago
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nightlily 27 points a year ago

They just added comment history hiding as well, so now you can’t even tell if some people are engaging in good faith anymore.

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QueenHawlSera 19 points a year ago

So I get banned for reporting trolls because it's an "Abuse of the Report Button" AND they make it easier to Troll? Do they just want people not using the site?

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quokka1 11 points a year ago

@QueenHawlSera @nightlily pretty sure that you just have to consider reddit as having been very much broken for a number of years now.
They erroneously ban good users and encourage the trolls.
The only way the experience is bearable is just to block idiots yourself and not engage.

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QueenHawlSera 5 points a year ago

I couldn't even get them to respond to appeals, so I just deleted the fucking account

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sqgl 5 points a year ago

I was a paying user who accidentally used an alt account a day before a ban was up.

The ban was ridiculous and unjustified but I understand alt accounts are against the rules. My appeal was rejected.

It was stupid if me to pay in the first place. My profile was linked to my real identity as result.

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quokka1 2 points a year ago

@QueenHawlSera lol. they blocked my account for having been created to evade a previous ban. Which was odd. First account there.
Figured it was some automated bollocks they'd be able to check.
Appealed, they reinstated it. Then permabanned it later same day for same reason. Gave up.

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Tollana1234567 7 points a year ago

you cant tell if people are botting/spamming

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octopus_ink 27 points a year ago

Fuck Spez!

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gravitas_deficiency 26 points a year ago

I love that people are removing the solutions, but keeping the “holy shit you just saved me 2-3 full quarters of work”

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dion_starfire 5 points a year ago

That's because the person who had the solution removed their comment history, but the person who said thank you didn't.

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UntitledQuitting 1 point a year ago

is this alt text

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Brett 26 points a year ago

I wish we were at the point where its applicable to every support question. fuck reddit. the company. not the knowledge base provided by its users.

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PMmeTrebuchets 25 points a year ago

How would I go about doing this? I want to nuke all my comments since I know deleting my account won't

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thermal_shock 14 points a year ago path: 0 18667358 18671346, hotness: undefined, score: 14, children: 1
PMmeTrebuchets 1 point a year ago

Thank you for the links, I think I will try the power delete suite you linked! I might do the same and just edit all my comments to be something like that before I log out for the last time. Sick of that website tbh.

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Jhex 12 points a year ago

There were tools to do it for your... but after the massive migration they blocked a ton (part of the API block that drove everyone away)

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ChaoticNeutralCzech 5 points a year ago

The API is still available in dev mode, just obtain the client ID and secret to authenticate the app. I used shreddit this way, it was more thorough than PowerDeleteSuite when I gave it the GDPR checkout. Both tools produce a log so you can refer to the posts/comments later.

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Upgrayedd1776 9 points a year ago

if you google how to do this, you can find some threads, i used a github library that did it pretty easily with a step by step walk through, some let you edit it and fill with quotes or advertising or whatever.

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PMmeTrebuchets 2 points a year ago

I will look into this, ty!

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Bruncvik 3 points a year ago

I personally manually overwrite my comments every few months. Be aware, though, that you can see only the last 1000 comments in your history, so you'd better do it frequently if you are very active. I haven't seen any of my comments ever restored, unlike what I hear from people who use automated tools.

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lemmyknow 21 points a year ago

fear apparatus rob nutty unique panicky fearless lip adjoining sophisticated

This post was mass deleted and anonymized with Redact

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MonkderVierte 20 points a year ago

Use bad words like sex, porn, diversity, gay, for maximum effect.

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some_guy 9 points a year ago

DEI, trans, equal rights, tump fucked kids.

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Blackmist 19 points a year ago

It's annoying, but it had to be done.

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ordnance_qf_17_pounder 17 points a year ago

I did my part to protest Reddit's awful policies by nuking everything I'd ever posted to deny their ability to give it platform. Less information = site less useful.

A drop in the ocean really, but a lot of people did the same which the Reddit admins did take notice of. Not that spez cared anyway because he's a cunt.

I like seeing blank comments on there now. It's often a sign of somebody else who got fed up with Reddit's bullshit.

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NJSpradlin 17 points a year ago

Remember, the capitalization of resources like this is a planned attack against the lower, middle, working class from uniting against the elite and capitalistic agenda. Reddit was a sharing of knowledge, and the control of knowledge, to the elite, should be solely within their control, and the sharing of knowledge to the aforementioned working class groups is a direct assault on their power.

That’s why they bought Reddit out and sunk it.

It’s not just ‘Fuck Spez!’, sure he caved and monetized Reddit, but his actions were just a symptom of the wider issue; capitalism is another tool designed by the elite to subjugate the working class.

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GoddessGundy 16 points a year ago

I have to say I was having issues using reddit on my browser, it was a simple html issue where I couldn't break paragraphs, and I went to the support sub and they fixed it within 2 days.

I've had mods ban me for visiting, not commenting or posting, just viewing a post from another sub. I'm sure I got shadow banned plenty of times. I left because of the users. I disagreed that someone should Go No Contact with their dementia suffering grandpa for being racist and I felt like I was going crazy with the commenters who tore me a new one.

I stayed for while after because fuck, I'd been on reddit since it had r/all and not much else. I blocked out the one that got me to quit for good. I don't even want to check back in for curiosities sake because fuck them. I wasn't wrong in the slightest.

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XM34 -15 points a year ago

And after that you chose Lemmy of all places? No offense, but the people and especially the mods here are even more batshit crazy when it comes to anything even remotely considered not left. 😂

I got banned from PoliticalMemes for saying that Hamas are a terrorist organization. Someone else got banned from the entirety of Blahaj.zone for saying that dragons aren't real. The list goes on. Reddit is centralist heaven compared to Lemmy! Heck, some of the mods are openly Putin and Winney Poo fan tankies!

That being said, there's still a lot of cool people and communities here that are pretty nice. Just stay away from anything even remotely political if you're not a downright communist/tankie. 🫣

Edit: The downvotes and comments below are once again proofing my point.

Edit2: Seems like I got myself another social stalker with this comment - CakeLova556@feddit.org

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OutlierBlue 5 points a year ago

Reddit is centralist heaven compared to Lemmy!

Reddit used to be a utopia like Lemmy before all the dipshits showed up. It was very left-leaning, and there's a reason /r/atheism was so prominent.

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Trainguyrom 3 points a year ago

Oh man /r/atheism was so bad for my mental and social health back in the day

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aeiou 1 point a year ago

let's not tell them about lemmy then

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CakeLova556 -1 points a year ago
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MonkderVierte -1 points a year ago

Someone else got banned from the entirety of Blahaj.zone for saying that dragons aren't real.

There's joke subs (i know of r/switzerlandisnotreal) with respective rules.

And i've not seen much right-leaning comments on c/all.

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MangioneDontMiss 16 points a year ago
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ook 12 points a year ago
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TankovayaDiviziya 2 points a year ago

Yeah, I get so pissed when people nuke their comment history. Why do that when you don't have too much of personal revealing information in that post or comment? Even one of the mods of AskHistorians expressed frustration of insightful posts and comments being deleted by OP. I did not even delete any of my posts before I deleted my Reddit account, because there are no revealing information, and I know some of my posts and comments will be helpful for others.

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GaMEChld 6 points a year ago

You may disagree with the net effect of the decision, but the decision is not hard to understand. The people that are doing it are placing a larger value on harming Reddit as a platform to hopefully force corrective change or encourage movement to competing platforms. You place a larger value on preserving knowledge.

You say you get pissed. My question is do you get pissed at the person who deleted it, or do you get pissed at Reddit for alienating it's own users to the point of deleting their own comments?

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TankovayaDiviziya 0 points a year ago

I have just read other people's comments as to why Redditors delete their comments. But even before the enshitiffication, I and others find it frustrating when comments are deleted.

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MangioneDontMiss 2 points a year ago
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MangioneDontMiss 0 points a year ago
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frog_brawler 4 points a year ago
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ChickenLadyLovesLife 2 points a year ago

I'm trying to get the image of spez wanking to that price graph out of my head.

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Tollana1234567 3 points a year ago

censorship and being censured as well.

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Asidonhopo 1 point a year ago

When Twitter went downhill, we got bluesky and mastodon. Bluesky works as a decent Twitter replacement and Mastodon is smaller and more fediverse-focused. Lemmy and Piefed are alternatives to Reddit but I wouldnt really say that Lemmy fully replaces Reddits functionality in terms of niche subs. That's why I've always been in favor of explosive growth here with each Reddit exodus, to have a forum within an order of magnitude or two of the size of Reddit to properly become a replacement.

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Hubi 15 points a year ago

Don't forget the random comments in other languages because people are not aware of reddit's shitty auto-translate feature when you come from a google search.

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knobpolisher 15 points a year ago

Are there any tools that can edit your comments to make the ingestion of your data into ai models less worthwhile? Eg. The comments are edited to not be random, superficially look like a human made them, but have very little value when sold by reddit

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bitwolf 9 points a year ago

I forget the tool but every once in a while you'll see a comment of gibberish words and it says "comment removed thanks to X".

The service edits the comments instead of erasing them.

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url 14 points a year ago

Good. Separately, I really wish we had a way to search for useful answers on Lemmy. I feel like much of the reddit was exposed through: "question/key words" site: reddit.com googling

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Tuuktuuk 5 points a year ago

I mean, you can do pretty much that by using one of the largest instances. That is most likely to have content from the largest amount of other instances.

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url 4 points a year ago

I get what you're saying it's just not as practical. Many won't look for the largest/most relevant instance for their questions.

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Samskara 1 point a year ago

Lemmy doesn’t even have a fraction of the useful information you could find on Reddit across lots of topics.

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finitebanjo 13 points a year ago

Good, fuck reddit, anybody with an account should delete all comment history.

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Saprophyte 8 points a year ago

I provided quite a few answers in Linux, UNIX, and programming forums. I had to delete my comments multiple times as they kept getting restored. I even had a script that I'd run in my browser that would go through and delete all my posts until a month passed with no restorations, then deleted my account. Reddit should never be a Google result for tech help to begin with. It should take you to documentation.

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Jiggle_Physics 7 points a year ago

yeah when I left I deleted everything. When I was talking about it to a friend who uses it, and knows my account, informed me that all my interactions with them are still there. Took a look, and yeah, everything restored.

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itsgroundhogdayagain 13 points a year ago

I know I deleted all my posts from multiple accounts before coming here.

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0li0li 11 points a year ago

For the record some of my deleted posts got reposted/reset by Reddit. I could see my old comments in a few sybs that absolutely purged as I left.

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degen 11 points a year ago

'23 is late enough, but it should be peppered with comments overwritten by 60 random words, just to make it worse

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jsomae 9 points a year ago

How is it possible to view deleted comments?

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QuestionMark 12 points a year ago

Redlib (alternative front-end to Reddit) puts a link to undelete for removed comments. undelete.pullpush.io

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jsomae 2 points a year ago

I didn't mean to ask how one can view the comments. I meant to ask how it's possible at all in the first place.

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rami 3 points a year ago

Iirc using the 'delete' button just does the equivalent of breaking the link to a picture. The data is still there.

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mic_check_one_two 3 points a year ago

This is why, during the mass exodus, many people were sharing scripts to edit your comments with random words before deleting them. Because deleting them leaves the content available in the database, but editing actually overwrites the data. So even if Reddit later decides to undo the deletions, (which they did), then they’ll just be a bunch of gibberish undeleted comments.

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QuestionMark 1 point a year ago

Oh right. Unless I'm mistaken, Pushshift was a data collection platform that provided an API for getting Reddit data, before the API change ruined it. When someone deletes a comment, it's still there in the database. Pullpush is a fork.

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Lumidaub 9 points a year ago

Remember to occasionally search for "site:reddit.com [your username]".

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muhyb 1 point a year ago

I did this and found this.

MemeReserveBot couldn't reserve shit, lol.

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SugarCatDestroyer 9 points a year ago
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StarryPhoenix97 6 points a year ago
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SugarCatDestroyer 1 point a year ago
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HootinNHollerin 9 points a year ago

Good

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aceshigh 8 points a year ago

… so now they’re linking to the deleted comments? Lol I guess they do need the users…

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usernameusername 7 points a year ago path: 0 18672050 18673126, hotness: undefined, score: 7, children: 0
dhhyfddehhfyy4673 8 points a year ago

Since apparently people still don't know this, it is unlikely that reddit has been restoring deleted posts & comments. Historically, there was a limit to how much could appear on a user's profile and even deleting stuff to back below the limit would not restore the visibility of items already pushed off.

They did relatively recently change this though so if you still have access to your account you can see and nuke the rest (although with the api lockdown and rate limiting shit nowadays it's not as quick & simple).

Another reason this how idea got started was during the api fiasco, a fuckload of subs went private so anything in said subs did not show on profiles during that time. As mods capitulated or were removed, subs went public again and hidden content showed back up; people who nuked their accounts, via user profile pages, in this period assumed reddit was restoring their deleted stuff.

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bitwolf 8 points a year ago

Whoa since when can you view removed comments?

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rozodru 2 points a year ago

libreddit instance allows you to do that. one I'm using right now: https://discuss.whatever.social/

note that you have to kinda bounce around from instance to instance as some will be great for a couple weeks then go away or crash and then you have to find another one.

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golden_zealot 8 points a year ago

Yea, this kind of problem is only going to get worse I expect.

I set up self-hosted linkwarden the other day to try to avoid this going forward.

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ohshit604 3 points a year ago
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KimjongTOOILL 5 points a year ago

Oh god it's happening here too

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Lemmisaur 2 points a year ago

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golden_zealot 2 points a year ago

Yea I have libredirect running to show me reddit stuff on alt front ends should I click a link that usually goes to it, but when talking about linkwarden I meant to make it in reference to preventing link-rot for anything in general on any site in the future as well, not just reddit.

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rc__buggy 5 points a year ago

lol, yeah. Ain't it funny?

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thespcicifcocean 4 points a year ago

good

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axEl7fB5 2 points a year ago

cool words very random ass nonsense this makes sense no kill alive

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frenchfryenjoyer 2 points a year ago

I'm unfamiliar with Reddit because I haven't had an account, but can people delete their account on Reddit, and does that automatically delete all their stuff too?

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stringere 9 points a year ago

No, you have to individually overwrite all your comments and then delete them to actually make them disappear. Even after all that workl some people have reported their comments returning.

Just checked my account and despite overwriting all my comments before deleting them...yeah, they're all back now.

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GreenKnight23 2 points a year ago

and this is why when I delete my comments on lemmy I edit them.

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Samskara 1 point a year ago

Lemmy deletes the posts if a user is banned from their own instance or you delete the account.

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GreenKnight23 1 point a year ago

that's cool. Reddit used to too.

I'm not expecting lemmy to be a dick about it, but call it insurance.

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Tollana1234567 1 point a year ago

no it doesnt, you have to use an extension or a script to delete it. only shadowbanning prevents another users from viewing, but reddit still has access to it.

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friend_of_satan 2 points a year ago

Is this post better suited for c/mildlyinfuriating or c/fuckingawesome?

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popcar2 1 point a year ago

I know it's great that Reddit is getting less useful but it's still infuriating that I can't find any help on very specific issues where the only answer was that one deleted comment/post.

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friend_of_satan 2 points a year ago

Oh yeah, I sympathize with that problem. I have no sympathy for Reddit though. We all should have invested our time in something that had the users' best interests in mind. Something like the fediverse.

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etherphon 1 point a year ago
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CmdrShepard49 1 point a year ago

I dont think its the same cause but I was looking for pressure washer recs a few days ago and came across a few reddit posts that had entire chains of comments from different individuals and every single one had been deleted. One of the posts wasn't even that old (pre API change or anything like that). It was definitely odd to see.

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dontbelievethis 0 points a year ago

🤷

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DesertDwellingWeirdo -4 points a year ago

Try AI tbh. It's saved me from tons of forum posts in pursuit of specialized technical knowledge, where I'd often be lucky to get a response at all.

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Serpent 3 points a year ago

You have downvotes because lemmy hates LLMs so much. It doesn't reflect reality or the general population. I'm not even critical of the hate, its the communities consensus.

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Korhaka 2 points a year ago

Are LLMs good or just everything else is so enshitified that they look good in comparison?

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DesertDwellingWeirdo 1 point a year ago

Purity test not found. It's a tool, it is useful to me and saves me time and trouble.

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Manmoth -5 points a year ago

I just use ChatGPT.

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Cevilia 5 points a year ago
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