Climate change is not boding well for Mexico unfortunately. You can expect severe water shortages in the coming decades.

Fucking colonizers, man.

if you want the lifestyle. areas with many expats have higher prices. lake chapala area is one. speak spanish

Impenetrable!

That’s true. Unfortunately, calling it free is often used by people who want to paint it as infeasible, and is used as an excuse to cut funding—even when data shows it’s an investment with human and monetary rewards.

Yes I mean nothing is free if we try to be strict about it. The word would have no meaning. I think we all understand “sold at zero price” but there are always people in the crowd who want to pop up and say “it’s not free! someone pays!” Typically their next move is to start breaking down who pays and why it’s unfair. I have no patience for them.

That's a thing in the US too, by the way. You can walk into a pharmacy or some grocery stores and get cheap/free vaccines for the current flu strain as well as the standard immunizations for a bunch of common diseases.

Most people don't take advantage of it.

Careful what you wish for. I don't want them in my country, even if they bring money. They fuck everything up. I'm not anti immigrants and refugees, they are welcome, they should be treated better, like equals which sadly isn't always the case in my country. But Americans are a different story. There are some proper Americans, I have a few American friends that are proper, but in general I don't like to have Americans around.

Even their money can fuck everything up. Like raise property prices so locals can't buy property anymore. Same with groceries etc.

It's better to keep them isolated in their own mess. Otherwise they will leave the mess they made to create more mess where you live, then to go somewhere else after that. Irresponsible and selfish people will only bring misery onto others.

In the movie Team America they have a nice saying. "There are pussies, dicks and assholes". Right now Americans are the assholes. They need to get fucked "otherwise you will have all your pussies and dicks all covered in shit."

I'm sure it will persist, as it primarily services Americans. And their money is still good.

If anything, we'll see the Mexican health care system expand in order to absorb all the domestic residents who can now afford the same care

Wel now it will be called Los Aldogones

In some countries they don't even have the financial infrastructure to bill patients, so injured tourists get free health care. A big chunk of American medical bills is due to the cost of billing.

We have free at point of service health care in Canada for those signed up to the plan. You don't have to be a citizen just a resident and wait your 2 month grace period. For tourists and non signed up folks you pay the costs out of pocket, but they are reasonable compared to USA. A coworker wasn't here long enough for the signup and dislocated his shoulder. Hospital visit, xray, sling, etc $400

Kaiser was excellent when they only provided service to kiaser members. When the government stepped in, the whole system went to shit. They still have the same amount of doctors so the only thing that happened in now everyone gets shitty service and long wait times.

Sometimes the government getting involved isn't a good thing.

Mexico has around 25 Doctors per 100000 capita. That is lower than almost all European countries that averaged 40 Doctors per 100000 capita.

When it comes to nurses, the comparison is worse. 29/100000capita in Mexico and over 100/100000capita in Norway, Finland, Sweden, Iceland, Denmark, Germany, Austria, Ireland, Switzerland, Belgium and the Netherlands. With no EU nation falling below 40/100000capita.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/...

America does. They just suffer from capitalism.

Well their original comment alluded to people not being able to get care because there aren't enough medicines, doctors, or hospitals.

I hope they answer you, because I know nothing about what's going on there, but I'm fairly certain that was their point.

Because healthcare has been free in Mexico for decades. This seems like the usual political posturing. Saying "healthcare is free" is an empty statement if people are turned away at the point of service because of a lack of medicine or service providers. Give them three months and then check again. Then you'll know if it was a shallow gesture or not.

I'm with you. I'm glad I pay taxes and they should make everyone's life better. The thing is we already had a good enough public healthcare system, but at the moment is falling way short of what it should be. It is worse than before, and there is an issue when critical medications are not in supply.

The issue won't be under control anytime soon if ever, public healthcare has just been declining for the past two decades in Mexico and this won't fix anything in practice, just in paper

Obviously I can only speak for myself and my perception. If reports are to be believed, I live in one of the most dangerous regions in the world. You can google el bajío or guanajuato. Day to day life is very good for me. I have a good enough job and my city is cheap compared to Mexico city. Distances are short and walkable. I have kids and there are many public places for them to play sports or just hang out.

Hard violent crime has slowed down. There were many drive by killings, at least 2 or 3 a week just a year ago, but now I hardly ever hear gunshots or news about new deaths. The main issue at the moment is paying for "protection", its happening everywhere and some business cant afford it. Despite of it, many new restaurants, cafés and other small business are opening.

As for healthcare, which was the subject of this post, I can get a private appointment with a really good doctor in less than a couple of days if not urgent, and it costs from 800 to 1200 pesos. Medicines go from really generic cheap, think about 200 pesos, to 3000 depending on what is needed.

If you have any more questions for anything that may tickle your curiosity Ill be glad to answer as best as I can.

Exactly.

You can just look at the experience of creating the National Health Service in the UK (there's a bunch of documentaries floating around) to see how it's an overall positive for Society by a large margin, not just directly but also indirectly because for example when people can go see a doctor for free they are far more likely to end up being treated for sickness early on (which its cheaper and easier) or to get treatment for debilitating but not life threatening conditions which in turn even gets reflected in higher Economic outcomes because healthier people are more productive.

Universal Healthcare Systems only "don't work" for those who are fatcats getting a slice of that sweet sweet 13%+ of national GDP (about 18% in the US) that goes into Healthcare in the average country.

I first saw that shit when I lived in Britain a decade ago, already at the hands of he who Thatcher called her "Greatest Achievement" (Tony Blair, who pivoted the Labour Party hard to the Right and away from a party representing the working class) and later directly at the hands of the Tories (Conservative Party).

Now that I'm back in my native Portugal (which also has a National Health service), the current rightwing government here is trying to do the same thing, tough not quite yet at the same point as NHS sneaky privatization was in Britain over a decade ago.

By the way, Mark Carney, now PM of Canada, was placed by and served as head of the Bank Of England for the Tories back when I was there, during which he was a great friend of bankers and presided over an economic period when in real terms the income of the lower 90% by wealth of the population was falling at about 1% per year, whilst that of the top 10% was growing at around 23%.

So, yeah, it does not surprise me at all, in any way form or shape, that Carney is working to make the fatcats fatter - same as he did in Britain - not for the good of most Canadians.

True. But it only matters if you are alive. Look, I'm not trying to be cynical, we have both systems in Mexico, and I've experienced both as a client. I'm all for public healthcare, but if it doesn't work, it's only a pretty idea. On the private side, yeah it's fucking expensive, but it kind of works for the ones who can afford it. Just to be clear, we agree.

Dr .Simi login.... (Very cheap Mexican drugstore chain, med labs and MDs consultation, even veterinary services on some cities)

Mexicano Tijuanense aquí, I concur

Although the voter ID registration for existing and new phone numbers is dumb as shit. Complete erosion of privacy.

I'm okay with both opinions of capitalism as evil or not. The American healthcare system is, sorry, it is dogshit. No one should be living under that system, it's only better than nothing at all, I guess.

yeah it's funny they come with some bs everytime and forget about it later

remember those stands outside of hospitals that were supposed to supply meds? or that 'mega' pharmacy?

USA! USA!

They probably still will…

If you seriously don’t think Mexico has healthcare you need to take a step back and check your biases.

one joke.

You're a dick

And Mexico makes that easy in a lot of border areas. You can throw rocks between dental offices and pharmacies in Palomas. Walk across the border and not even show ID, until you to come back.

Can Ada what?

Just don't go for Duolingo

I don't see how that's an argument for not doing this.

2/10,000

not even a start, we already had free healthcare programs not tied to employment before

No no no, the firefighters SAID they are connecting their hoses but in reality there are no hoses, they spent that money for the hoses on something else and people have to put out the fire by themselves

There is a difference between putting something in paper and actually putting policy in action

me sorprende la autoridad con la que vienen a hablar los extranjeros de nuestra situación. entiendo que en lemmy muchos somos de izquierda pero si realmente creen que el gobierno actual de México ve por los intereses del proletariado pues están bien pendejos y probablemente lo sean si son gringos