RIP to Universe #342, hope they’re doing well without me

2 days ago by geekyfitnessfanatic to c/lemmyshitpost

Varesti 114 points 2 days ago

I actually think about this a lot.

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snoons 53 points 2 days ago

Everything that can happen, does happen. Everything, everywhere, all at once!

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prex 47 points 2 days ago

Anything that happens, happens.

Anything that, in happening, causes something else to happen, causes something else to happen.

Anything that, in happening, causes itself to happen again, happens again.

It doesn’t necessarily do it in chronological order, though.

Douglas Adams

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First_Thunder 13 points 2 days ago

Impossible since “Nothing ever happens”

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moopet 8 points 2 days ago

Nothing happens at all

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wonderingwanderer 6 points 2 days ago

I made a bagel. And put everything on it.

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snoons 3 points 2 days ago

oh no

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DmMacniel 3 points 2 days ago

And everything that had happened will happen again.

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TootSweet 2 points 10 hours ago path: 0 25354408 25354476 25383696, hotness: undefined, score: 2, children: 0
blarg_dunsen 65 points 2 days ago

Somewhere, somewhen, there is a version of me who made all the right decisions and is living a truly great life.

And everyday I give big props to them, while just doing the best I can each day and continue making questionable decisions sometimes.

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bitjunkie 20 points 2 days ago

There are also versions of you who made all the right decisions and are still living garbage lives because no decision in their control actually had an influence on the overall outcome. These versions are far more numerous.

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Siegfried 49 points 2 days ago

Quit the nonsense. It is plot armor

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Zephyr 4 points 2 days ago

The universe seems to be as far as we know now physically infinite and homogeneous. That means all possible arrangements of matter exits. In any direction you can point there would be an atom for atom copy of the earth and it's entire history including a copy ofe writing this comment as well as all others permutations. There's no need for jumping to new universes at all depending on the nature of consciousness.

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TranscendentalEmpire 23 points 2 days ago

The universe seems to be as far as we know now physically infinite and homogeneous. That means all possible arrangements of matter exits.

There's a couple assumptions being made here that allow for this hypothesis to be possible. We do not know if the universe is actually infinite, it's just a possibility based on what we can currently observe (around 93 billion light years). Even if something is incalculably large, it's still miniscule compared to the infinite that this hypothesis requires.

Secondly the universe is only homogeneous at a very large scale. The universe at a local scale is very diverse in its make-up, it's only homogeneous at a scale of hundreds of millions of light years.

If we disregard these assumptions is it possible that there are near copies of our perceived realities in other places in the universe, maybe......but is it likely?

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Zephyr 7 points 2 days ago

Most definitely. It's assuming our current understanding is accurate, spacetime is flat and the universe is at a large scale homogeneous. As of now those are the main assumptions given what we know and what we can measure. Any stories we make about reality including science are at most our current best bet and nothing more. We can always learn something new that will rewrite anything we know currently. Like imagine we prove last Thursdayism is true.

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EnchiladaRaisins 3 points 2 days ago

That depends on whether or not there was an infinite amount of energy in the Big Bang. Lacking that, you can't have infinite matter (i.e. infinite copies and possible configurations) even if you have infinite space to put it in.

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Wirlocke 4 points 2 days ago

When current theories say the universe is infinite they also mean an even distribution of matter in that infinite space.

And for something like the big bang, when theories say that the universe originated from a singularity they actually mean the infinite sized universe had infinite density at one instance, not that it literally came from one single point.

So there is technically infinite energy in the universe, but all that infinite energy is still experiencing entropy at on average the same rate.

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tetris11 3 points 2 days ago

CMBR isn't homogenous though within our bubble, how can we assume the universe beyond our horizon is the same. We are but fish in a pond

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Zephyr 3 points a day ago

It's more so about scale. If you zoomed out far enough the CMBR is homogeneous. You can zoom in to about anything and it'll not be homogeneous.

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tetris11 1 point a day ago

This map is covers the entire observable universe, it's as zoomed out as it can go and it looks pretty rough in patches.

Edit: Oh, unless by zoomed out you mean beyond the observable

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Malyca 2 points 2 days ago

I don't understand what you're saying but I believe you

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Zephyr 2 points 2 days ago

Imagine you have three coins, there's only so many ways you can arrange them in a line. It's essentially that idea but for matter

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bjoern_tantau 39 points 2 days ago

I sometimes think about this playing video games, especially Tomb Raider. The protagonist never ever failed. From their perspective they must feel invincible. Kind of explains Lara's cocky attitude.

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Nalivai 23 points 2 days ago

Game idea: narrative focused crpg, with a relatively straightforward plot, but the protagonist remembers every time you reload and his every death, progressively tries to figure out what's happening, all while trying to actually succeed the original plot because that also seems important.

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Buddahriffic 15 points 2 days ago

Some options I know of:

  • The Forgotten City
  • Deathloop
  • Stuck in Time
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Nalivai 3 points 2 days ago

All good, but not enough fourth wall fuckery in those time loops

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LucidNightmare 2 points 2 days ago

Maybe the closest that I know of so far: Rue Valley?

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BorgDrone 2 points 2 days ago

Returnal

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bjoern_tantau 13 points 2 days ago

Slay the Princess kind of goes in that direction.

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captainlezbian 7 points 2 days ago

I hear good things about it, but am not particularly one for horror, still considering picking it up at some point though

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GratefullyGodless 2 points 2 days ago

It is horror, but it's also not horror. StP brings so much more than just horror, it has comedic moments, romantic moments, thoughtful moments, and plenty of WTF moments. And, how it all plays out depends on what you choose.

Steam has a two hour return policy, so I would recommend getting the game, and trying out the opening to see what you think. It's not for everyone, but if you're the type who likes to think deep thoughts about the universe like OP posted, then you'll probably enjoy this game.

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Wirlocke 4 points 2 days ago

Undertale is this but it's not focused on too heavily unless you play multiple routes.

Deltarune I think (I haven't played it myself) has this kind of plot with the protagonist having an antagonist relationship to the player controlling them, but it's more focused on player-made choices instead of save mechanics.

I would also like to nominate In Stars and Time, which is about timeloops and is very meta but not in the fourth wall breaking way.

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JcbAzPx 2 points 2 days ago

Not a game, but I remember a choose your own adventure style video series on YouTube where if you choose some early bad ends, the main character will start acting more and more reluctant to follow your choices.

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okwhateverdude 2 points 2 days ago path: 0 25356919 25358541 25363276, hotness: undefined, score: 2, children: 0
curiousaur 29 points 2 days ago

This is too real, I absolutely ate it once in a hotel shower all alone. I was stunned and had the wind knocked out of me while getting waterboarded by the shower. I don't think I ever felt so helpless and actually started thinking this is how it ends.

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NakedNateRollerSkate 14 points a day ago

I had a good friend slip in the shower, hit his head, and die. He was 27. Life can change abruptly in ways you would never expect. Be careful out there please.

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atx_aquarian 4 points a day ago

I've been more careful in the shower lately, especially since ours is all stone tile. It's got good traction, but I keep wondering what happens when people fall in showers--whether it's usually a traction thing, or whether it's significantly an orientation thing (due to temperature change, scalp massaging , head angle, etc. affecting blood pressure and equilibrium...).

Every time I saw a roadway accident in bad weather, I thought of it like something that wasn't going to happen to me, until I had my own moment and realized my traction on fresh rainfall wasn't what I thought it was.

Showers seem like the next "oh, that can happen to me" thing.

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NikkiDimes 2 points a day ago

Have eaten absolute shit in the shower. I was young, in shape, just had a moment of complacency and slipped. Other than some bruising and scaring the shit out of me, I was fine thankfully.

My dad felt horrible and immediately bought sticky grip pads for the tub lol.

It can definitely happen to anyone, anytime. Be careful out there, eh

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NightmareQueenJune 1 point a day ago

The Problem with slipping is: it first feels somewhat grippy. But when you start to slip it's suddenly like ice.

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laranis 29 points 2 days ago

Crawling around a claustrophobic attic in a heatwave recently and I had a panicked moment where I decided I had better get out before hyperthermia made it so I physically couldn't.

Pretty sure there is a parallel universe where firefighters are cutting holes in the ceiling to extract my rotting corpse from behind an aging air handler.

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ApathyTree 21 points 2 days ago

Don't have this in the shower.

The stairs, however, have probably done me in dozens of times. I frequently say “how have I not died on these stairs yet??” As I nearly slip once more.

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bitjunkie 7 points 2 days ago

The cat at the top of the stairs

ftfy

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grrgyle 1 point 2 days ago

I think when a cat almost trips you they get to see your multiverse selves go tumbling and crumbling down the stairs.

Explains why cats are so smug too.

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LePoisson 5 points 2 days ago

If you constantly are pondering how your stairs have yet to kill you, perhaps it's time to do something different with the stairs? Like I know way easier said than done but even something like changing the railing or what they're covered in might be useful.

Wouldn't want your last moments to be you wondering why you didn't listen to yourself.

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ApathyTree 2 points 2 days ago

Thanks, but theres really nothing to be done about it short of rebuilding both flights entirely, and I’m not even sure that would fix them. The problem is the way they are built; the stairs to the second floor turn a corner, and the triangular stairs in said corner narrow to the point on the inside corner that it drops immediately 3 stairs down if you miss-step, and the miss-step is like a third of the stair. Incredibly dangerous, and I hold the rails for dear life every time.

The back stairs from the addition just aren’t even. They all have different rise because they needed to meet into three already-existing floors - main floor, back door at ground level, and basement floor, and they had to turn 3 corners to do that. I’ve tried to math out a way to make them even and I can’t. I’ll still have substantial differences between sections.

It’s a very old house full of very bad choices that can’t really be fixed without major overhaul. I’ll probably hire someone at some point to see if they can fix it, if I can ever afford that, but I’ll probably bite it on the stairs well before that happens :) I'm planning to paint the quarter rounds with glow pigment to help delineate the stairs in the dark, and add some glowing non-slip tape to the bullnose, but thats about the best I’ve got, and it won’t really help that much.

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LePoisson 1 point 2 days ago

Wow that does sound like a borderline purposeful booby trap of a design. Stay safe!

Legitimately sounds scary especially if you're fucked up - drunk me would be terrified lol

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laranis 3 points 2 days ago

I don't walk up/down stairs with my hands in my pockets anymore. Seems unnecessarily risky, like running out into traffic without looking or stepping into the ring with a hungry lion.

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Malyca 21 points 2 days ago

I used to want to be immortal. Now I understand those who don't want to.

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Notyou 3 points a day ago

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monkeyslikebananas2 17 points 19 hours ago

The thing about quantum immortality is that as you age and you start running out of timelines, the circumstances for you to still be alive get weirder and weirder.

Imagine you are 90 and are about to die in all other timelines and the only way you survive is for aliens to show up with a cure for death.

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TootSweet 4 points 10 hours ago

I mean, shit's pretty weird, though.

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Draegur 17 points 2 days ago

I've been leaving behind a few more dead timelines than usual lately. deja-vu-like flashes of mistakes I'm concurrently avoiding AND making at once. tripping down stairs that i actually made it safely to the bottom of. catastrophic car accidents that everyone actually ends up driving away from unscathed. I see it flash before my eyes and divert my course... I try to tell myself it's just experiential pattern recognition providing examples of what could go wrong, why to be cautious and take care. But... Yeah, this hits freaky

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Abyssian 6 points 2 days ago

Read Anathem by Neal Stephenson. Fantastic book that actually hits that topic, especially near the end.

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TheColonel 5 points a day ago

I’ve also had these.

Not always mistakes.

The one I had at the farmers market when I saw a flash and the entire thing obliterated by a nuke ala T2 was the worst.

So bad my wife noticed my expression change.

Had fun with that in therapy.

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NotASharkInAManSuit 5 points a day ago

Having literally just now finished re-reading If This Book Exists You’re In The Wrong Universe, I’m compelled to ask if you’ve come into contact with any thick black goo that seemingly moved on its own?

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CitizenKong 7 points a day ago

Nah, I just have this nasty soy sauce that constantly leads to weird out of body experiences.

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NotASharkInAManSuit 1 point 10 hours ago

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anugeshtu 2 points a day ago

I also got some Mickey 17 vibes. Nothing over the feeling of your bones getting crushed between some heavy machinery while nothing actually happened. But yeah, it's just "dreams", alright? 😅

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enphurgen 17 points 2 days ago

I mustve died many many times cause the universe im in now sucks

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voodooattack 15 points 2 days ago

Ok, but hear me out. What if the universe is the insides of a quantum computation doing a Levin search based on reversible computation? Aka every time you truly hesitate before making a decision you’re doing a quick-save?

Edit: oh, and it’d be lazily evaluated in this case

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okwhateverdude 7 points 2 days ago

Then who ever is playing this character is fucking dumb for even playing the game. Plz uninstall.

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humorlessrepost 6 points 2 days ago

I’m an Orc from Warcraft II who keeps getting clicked on until I become self aware and yell “Stop poking me!”

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Sabata11792 5 points 2 days ago

How do I reload an old save. I think I messed up my build.

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programmerlexi 3 points a day ago

Unfortunately the devs didn't have the budget to add multiple save slots. Your old save is long gone.

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musubibreakfast 2 points a day ago

Sorry, that's not an option but if you install the buddhism dlc then you can respawn with new specs. But don't kill yourself to re-spec because I'm pretty sure you get significant de-buffs for doing so. Your best bet would be to just wander into a pvp zone and hope for the best.

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NikkiDimes 2 points a day ago

So we're all just save scumming bastards?

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chiliedogg 1 point a day ago

If my life is the result of my successful re-loads, that's a really bad sign.

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rounding_error 9 points a day ago

My dumbass was a bitch at cycling and nearly tried eating a headlong collision to make a crowded left turn. I had dreams about what my dead body would look like. This is seriously no joke

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crashex 9 points 2 days ago

Ran from a wildfire recently when the wind turned suddenly. In a few universes I am now BBQ.

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ivanafterall 7 points 2 days ago

Yet in all universes, you taste delicious to me. ❤️

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Syltti 5 points a day ago

Calm down, Jeffery.

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enchantedgoldapple 9 points 2 days ago

This is me, but for every slight inconvenience that happened to me. I feel as if I am responsible for my personal holocaust 😔

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davetortoise 8 points 2 days ago

Damn I didn't realise other people thought like this

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HonoraryMancunian 13 points 2 days ago

Bold of you to assume other people exist

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Saledovil 7 points 2 days ago

As far as I know, there's no evidence of the many-worlds interpretation, which quantum immortality relies on.

Also, quantum immortality doesn't mean you can't die, it means you'll go to hell when you do. Eventually you'll be reduced to a state where you can only think, with no way to interact with, or senses the world at all, making you dead for any observer who is not you. And you'll stay in this state forever.

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crapwittyname 1 point 10 hours ago

There's no evidence for the Copenhagen interpretation either, it's just the most conservative.

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davetortoise 1 point 2 days ago

Did you respond to the wrong comment

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Saledovil 4 points 2 days ago

I was sort of still thinking of this quantum hell thought experiment, and wanted to write about it. I should probably have started my comment with "I believe the interpretation presented in OP's post to be false because ..."

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davetortoise 2 points a day ago

Fair. I mean, quantum immortality is dumb and wrong anyway so it doesn't really matter either way.

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MrNesser 8 points 2 days ago

Ever thought about the possibility that we are all moving through neighbouring quantum realities constantly but there was a point where the Mandela affect kicked in and a full branch of reality was lost.

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TheLadyAugust 8 points 2 days ago

Like layers of collapsing realities as the consciousnesses filter out to ones they're still alive in. Simulation is running out of wholly unique universes so it starts to let close enough do. Now we have to deal with Berenstain/Berenstein and people who have broken logic for this reality.

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MrNesser 6 points 2 days ago

Like when I before e except after c was correct except it never was and entire generations grew up spelling words incorrectly

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moopet 8 points 2 days ago

nciorectly

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redparadise 6 points 2 days ago

Don't follow that to its logical conclusion, you are fated to experience the heat death of the universe.

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Inucune 10 points 2 days ago

It is more like an interstate with many off ramps: the road ends eventually but not everyone makes it to the last exit.

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redparadise 1 point 2 days ago

Who decides where the highway ends? There's always an infitesimal chance that a branch continues just beyond.

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Grostleton 2 points 2 days ago

There's a short story based on this concept that I found awhile back: Divided by Infinity

It's a pretty fun read.

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Nalivai 1 point 2 days ago

Your eventual death of old age is inevitable in every multi-reality.

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redparadise 1 point 2 days ago

Except one multi-reality cured old age

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Nalivai 1 point 2 days ago

Not allowed by The Authority

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redparadise 1 point 2 days ago

The Authority was overthrown in another

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MousePotatoDoesStuff 6 points 2 days ago

it's more like "one of me probably just died out there" for me

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takeda 5 points 2 days ago

It isn't always binary (dead vs alive) you are more likely to slip, fall and become disabled. How does that fit the quantum immortality?

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Saledovil 5 points 2 days ago

As JcbAzPx said, you'll continue in all timelines where you're alive. No matter of how injured you are. Eventually, you'll be just a brain kept alive through thermal fluctuation. (Theoretically, entropy can spontaneously go down, the chances of this happening going down exponentially the more entropy we're talking about. Think about shuffling a deck of cards, and getting a completely sorted deck of cards. Certain at 1 card, 25% chance at 2 cards, and basically zero at a full deck, but still theoretically possible.) Eventually, you'll be a disembodied brain suffering for all eternity from phantom pain.

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JoeBigelow 4 points 2 days ago

My dude, you are just a cloud of random particles interacting in space whose unpredictable fluctuations have resulted in a structure exactly mimicking a human brain, complete with memories and knowledge of "the universe"

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Draegur 1 point 2 days ago

Boltzmann has entered the chat!

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okwhateverdude 3 points 2 days ago

Quantum Hell.

Thanks, I hate it.

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JcbAzPx 3 points 2 days ago

You continue in any time lines you're still alive in. Even if you don't want to be.

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ivanafterall 3 points 2 days ago

Relatable.

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the_q 5 points 2 days ago

Ah yes... The spiritualism of the intelligent. It's different than religious beliefs, right?

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Pudutr0n 5 points 2 days ago

Ah yes, the hubris of man. Cause we can totally prove logic works without using logic, right?

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Slovene85 11 points 2 days ago

Ah yes, boobies ...

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Pudutr0n 7 points 2 days ago

I too enjoy boobies!

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atx_aquarian 2 points a day ago

I'm amazed that so many people have thought about all this with a term for something I've wondered about, and yet I still think this is the wisest branch of the comments.

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the_q 1 point 2 days ago

Which is more logical: some supernatural, indefinable thing or cold finality?

You can't prove either, but one is foundational to shared delusions that drives commerce, hatred and war while the other is just peace.

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Pudutr0n 2 points 2 days ago

Fair enough. Logic is your deity. Not a bad one, either. :P

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the_q 2 points 2 days ago

Explain how it's a deity. I don't worship it. It doesn't give me purpose. It's not a comfort.

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Malyca 4 points 2 days ago

No

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dltk 5 points 2 days ago

Solipsism is real amongst the fediverse shit posters

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moopet 6 points 2 days ago

Yeah, we gotta stick together.

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grrgyle 4 points 2 days ago

Quantum foam makes me roam...

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tetris11 3 points 2 days ago

Quantum puns make me ...

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Zomg 4 points 2 days ago

Each breath is a whole different universe. Each version there's someone that just died last breath ago.

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Pudutr0n 3 points 2 days ago

I've parallel-universe-died like 4 times the past two weeks already.

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M137 2 points 4 hours ago

I had a few years where every time I was about to fall asleep I had that very immediate feeling of falling that wakes you up but it was 100 times stronger than I'd ever felt before. It went from "oh, I'm nice and comfortable and just drifting off" to "HOLY FUCK I JUST ALMOST FUCKING DIED" in less than a second, it was absolutely horrifying and took a deep mental toll during and for a good while after it stopped. I still think about it in the context of this post, just the idea of "what if all those times were some sort of universe switching?" (To be clear, not in a serious way, it's just a fun philosophical thing).

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Zephyr 2 points 2 days ago

In a sea of infinite realities and infinite timeline jumps which is the original?

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bitjunkie 7 points 2 days ago

This one.

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grrgyle 2 points 2 days ago

Wow!! What are the odds!

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zanyllama52 2 points 2 days ago

This seems like the premise to an anime I haven't heard of yet 🤣

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Inucune 2 points 2 days ago

in/spectre comes to mind.

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NOPper 1 point 2 days ago

Its the book Anathem's main plot.

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bonsai 2 points 2 days ago

Anyone else read dark matter? This feels like that and haunted me for days after finishing the book

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grrgyle 2 points 2 days ago

Sigh...

opens up tbr list

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YiddishMcSquidish 2 points 2 days ago

Too real ...

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distal 2 points 9 hours ago

I never bought into quantum immortality. Isn't it obvious to everyone that this is just circular reasoning?

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ThatGuy46475 2 points 7 hours ago

I want to know how it accounts for dying of old age

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Armok_the_bunny 1 point 7 hours ago

Any time I see the word quantum I am immediately skeptical. In this case a large part of the skepticism comes from the apparent assumption that quantum weirdness relies on or is in any way impacted by concious observation, when it definitely doesn't.

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WorldsDumbestMan 1 point 4 hours ago

I hope my body melted into nasty goop by the time they find me.

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Tudsamfa 1 point 9 hours ago

I once bit of a piece of sausage, quickly noticed it was too hot to chew, and decided in my infinite wisdom that the best way to handle this situation was to swallow the unchewed piece. It was too big to go down on its own, but whatever self preservation reflex kicked in also took forever to make it go back up, so I had enough time to decide I didn't want to make a scene at the dinner table, so I had to force it down by swallowing more and more spit to make my esophagus move the right way again. Pretty sure alternative reality me chocked on that.

Almost impossible to make a series of worse decisions in my lifetime.

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cantstopthesignal -1 points 2 days ago

That's not what quantum means.

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davetortoise 9 points 2 days ago

Theres a deeply pseudoscientific theory called "quantum immortality" which says that the many worlds interpretation is correct, and every time a probabilistic event possibly leading to your death occurs, your consciousness seamlessly continues in those universes/timelines where it does not end. Hence, you can never experience death, and will always improbably escape it unless there is literally zero probability of survival.

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HonoraryMancunian 2 points 2 days ago

pseudoscientific

I prefer the term 'metaphysical'. Makes me sound less quackish

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Sanctus 2 points a day ago

This is just how revives work in Destiny.

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