Somehow USB disks are still the easiest and most reliable way

2 years ago by renzev to c/lemmyshitpost

TheImpressiveX 164 points 2 years ago path: 0 11357394, hotness: undefined, score: 164, children: 10
IronKrill 14 points 2 years ago

Sad that this XKCD from 2011 is still just as accurate today...

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tatterdemalion 6 points 2 years ago

Only because IPv6 and self-hosting are not mainstream yet. But if it were commonplace for everyone's home to have something as simple as a public file server or SSH server, then this problem would be trivialized.

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dan 4 points 2 years ago

Opera tried to make self-hosting mainstream back in 2009 with Opera Unite, but regular people just weren't interested. It was a web server built in to the browser, which had a few apps like a whiteboard, a way to write notes, file transfers, etc.

Also, IPv6 is already mainstream in some countries. In the USA, several of the mobile networks are IPv6-only, using 464XLAT to allow connections to legacy IPv4-only servers. Comcast/Xfinity was also the first ISP to roll out IPv6 at a wide scale, and the majority of their customers had IPv6 connectivity way back in 2014 or so.

Globally, around 50% of traffic to Google and 60% of traffic to Facebook are using IPv6.

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anivia 4 points 2 years ago

Not quite, we now have options like wormhole that make it pretty simple

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Eheran 3 points 2 years ago

Just send it over telegram. Even Whatsapp allows that size I assume.

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IronKrill 1 point 2 years ago

For sure, let me just make an account, install the app, find and add them- wait, he drove over with a USB? Jokes aside, thanks for the recommendation, but it's not any simpler than the 2011 solutions if you haven't set it up already.

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Eheran 1 point 2 years ago

Who is not already using Telegram and/or Whatsapp?

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xavier666 2 points 2 years ago

HCTP: Hypercar Transfer Protocol. Someone make an RFC

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mvirts 108 points 2 years ago

Kde connect all day erry day

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Jumuta 42 points 2 years ago

kde connect and syncthing both just work, and it's amazing

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Duamerthrax 4 points 2 years ago

I haven't been able to get Syncthing permissions to work. The frustrating thing for me with Android has always been inconsistencies between vendors and weird permissions issues.

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ogeist 17 points 2 years ago

Localsend is also a thing

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MHanak 5 points 2 years ago

I personally find localsend more reliable and easyer when it comes to sending files

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ChilledPeppers 4 points 2 years ago

Came here to say this

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kspatlas 6 points 2 years ago

KDE connect is gold

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TheFonz 2 points 2 years ago

It times out for me every time. After ten or so files just gives up.

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OfficerBribe 2 points 2 years ago

It is alright, but SFTP transfer broke for me some time ago. I think it is related to changes in Android, but surprisingly there were not a lot of posts about this issue last I searched. Using Android 13 / Samsung One UI 5.1 with Windows 11.

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Ghoelian 1 point 2 years ago

I use Material Files (from f-droid) as my default file manager, which includes support for mounting FTP, SFTP, SMB, and webdav shares. It doesn't handle the connection getting interrupted very well, so if that happens i have to restart the app. Other than that it's been working great for my SMB share.

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BeardedGingerWonder 1 point 2 years ago

Solid explorer seems, pretty solid

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franklin 64 points 2 years ago

Syncthing is amazing though.

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renzev 17 points 2 years ago

It's pretty good. Definitely better then self-hosted stuff like nextcloud, because you don't need to maintain your own server. But sometimes it takes a while for two hosts to discover each other on the same local area network.

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untorquer 9 points 2 years ago

I've never noticed any delay after first discovery. But i only use 3 devices so 🤷

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Ghoelian 2 points 2 years ago

I think they're both good for different use-cases. I use nextcloud myself on a truenas system. I sync things like my pictures to nextcloud, and delete them from my phone after I've sorted them into the correct folders.

This way my data isn't clogging up my phone and other things, is still available from anywhere (as long as my home internet doesn't go down), and it's still safely stored on redundant storage.

This does take a bit more setting up than something like syncthing, though it wasn't very difficult at all. Basically install the docker image, tell it where my data goes, and set up a new dns record if you want it publicly accessible. I personally run it through a zerotier network so I don't have to do that.

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GFGJewbacca 2 points 2 years ago

I like Nextcloud on my TrueNAS scale setup, but for photos I've started using Immich. It works extremely well, and does automatic backups of specific folders from your phone. The interface looks nice too.

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Ghoelian 1 point 2 years ago

I'm actually using Photoprism on the same truenas system to view my photos, I just already had nextcloud for the rest of my files, so I'm using that to upload. They point to the same datasets, so they share the image data. I believe photoprism is pretty similar to immich, but i haven't used immich myself.

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Kalcifer 56 points 2 years ago path: 0 11361784, hotness: undefined, score: 56, children: 17
feddylemmy 13 points 2 years ago

This is why I love lemmy. Bookmarked! Thank you.

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Kalcifer 4 points 2 years ago

You're welcome 😊

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meliaesc 2 points 2 years ago

Anyone have any other cool crossplatform tools to share?

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naught101 5 points 2 years ago

SSH/SFTP?

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pipes 5 points 2 years ago

croc is great, works even when devices cant find each other on the network, or with gigantic folders (I use it between computers).

Or Simplex chat, I dont use it to chat but only to quickly share between phone and laptop :)

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1stQ 7 points 2 years ago

The only thing is that both devices need to be in the same WiFi net. But it also works on the road when the laptop uses the phones Hotspot.

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alteredracoon 6 points 2 years ago

Love LocalSend! Have been using it almost daily since I found it.

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DogWater 3 points 2 years ago

Is safe?

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Kalcifer 2 points 2 years ago

How do you mean?

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DogWater 1 point 2 years ago

Is it vetted by someone reputable?

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Kalcifer 2 points 2 years ago

I am unaware of any independent audit. That being said, it is opensource. Given that and its popularity, I am, personally, quite confident in its safety.

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Xttweaponttx 2 points 2 years ago

Shiiit dude thanks! Installed - definitely a keeper

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Kalcifer 1 point 2 years ago

You're welcome! 😊

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tatterdemalion 1 point 2 years ago

So we're reinventing scp now?

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Kalcifer 1 point 2 years ago

For what LocalSend is designed, imo, it is more convenient to use than scp — by quite a large margin.

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JackbyDev 47 points 2 years ago

The amount of times sending myself an email is still the quickest thing is insane. Sure I could try to use notion or keep to send myself some random string of text but am I logged in on my desktop? Idk. Just use email.

Also there are so many things like air drop, nfc, etc, but so many of them are so specific to certain devices. Maybe one day we'll figure this out lol

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garbagebagel 7 points 2 years ago

Glad I'm not the only one! I am extra old and use my Hotmail too...

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PythagreousTitties 3 points 2 years ago

Most of my emails are to myself going back and forth between PC and phone lol

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nepenthes 2 points 2 years ago

You don't even have to send it, you can save as draft.

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PythagreousTitties 2 points 2 years ago

That's brilliant. Thank you

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dantheclamman 2 points 2 years ago

Haven't had to email a file to myself since I set up syncthing

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tobogganablaze 46 points 2 years ago

Or just use a USB cable.

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renzev 74 points 2 years ago

For phone-to-computer it works fine. But double-sided boi will still win if you need to send files to a dumber device like a printer -- those don't typically support MTP or whatever iphones use. Unless you have an ancient android phone that gives full block-level access to the internal storage/microsd card through usb cable lol. I really miss that feature.

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steersman2484 19 points 2 years ago

I just add the printer on my phone and print over the network

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saltesc 9 points 2 years ago

So many people on here always talking about printing stuff in 2024. Is everyone a lawyer?

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tourist 3 points 2 years ago

Some banks and other places like that still require physical documents for stuff like proof of address, affidavits etc.

Even though they're going to fucking scan it into pdf anyway

I use my printer to print silly stickers, because I am a manchild, but I don't think I am using the correct ink or paper, because they fade very quickly and smudge sometimes.

Also use it to print graph paper to doodle on.

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CapeWearingAeroplane 3 points 2 years ago

I can't post my memes on the much room bulletin board for everyone to see unless I print them :/

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Fisch 2 points 2 years ago

No, I just live in Germany

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Honytawk 2 points 2 years ago

I transfer data by printing it and then scanning it when I get to the location.

I just like the artefacts it leaves behind.

If it is anything other than text or a photo, I compile the file into a QR code and print that.

A Windows 10 installation iso is about 1499639 QR codes

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idunnololz 1 point 2 years ago

When I cook I like to print out the recipe. It's annoying to have to touch ur phone when cooking because you might be handling raw meat so it's annoying to have to wash ur re-hands whenever you need to check the recipe. Plus using a phone when hands are wet is also annoying.

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steersman2484 1 point 2 years ago

Sometimes I need to print out stuff for my grandmother

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MudMan 6 points 2 years ago

Wait, what feature? You can't access the phone's storage? I'm pretty sure I can access my phone's storage.

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renzev 11 points 2 years ago

Old android phones used to emulate a USB mass storage device when you would connect them. To the computer, the phone would appear as a usb stick. Modern android phones, on the other hand, use a protocol called MTP (Mobile Transfer Protocol), which is completely its own thing.

The reason they switched to MTP is that the old approach gave the computer complete control over the phone's storage; the phone would become completely unusable while connected in this way, and would just display a "connected via usb" splash screen. With MTP, the phone continues to be usable while connected via USB. But it has the downside that MTP is a much less widespread protocol than USB mass storage. On personal computers it should "just work", but on stuff like printers it might not.

Personally, I think they should bring back USB mass storage emulation as an optional feature. Heck, it can still be done, but you need to compile your own android ROM with usb mass storage drivers, which I'm not nearly skilled enough to do.

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MudMan 6 points 2 years ago

Old USB implementation used to be a finicky nightmare, though. You make it sound like it wasn't changed for a reason, MTP connectivity on Android as it is now is so much more functional, as well as safer.

In any case, that solves the misunderstanding. I thought you meant you couldn't directly access phone storage anymore, which isn't the case.

The printer scenario seems like an edge case to me. I mean, MTP has been the default for what? Over a decade? If you have a recent printer you're probably fine (also, it probably has wifi and a dedicated mobile app or at least enough third party support to be used from your phone regardless). If your printer is older than that you're probably better served by going through your PC first anyway. Sure, you don't get direct USB access to printing photos, but now we're talking about a very specific feature that was in use for a very specific sliver of time, and it requires you to be tethered to a device anyway. I don't think that's enough to justify legacy storage support on phones.

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Jimbo 9 points 2 years ago

Yeah, double sided boi looks like a great way to ruin your phone charging port if you don't have a usb slot pointing straight up

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Tangent5280 12 points 2 years ago

I dont think you're supposed to connect to both devices at the same time.

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tostiman 12 points 2 years ago

Oh, it's a USB stick. I thought it worked like a cable.

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Wilzax 13 points 2 years ago

Cable with a really big delay but a REALLY big buffer

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uis 43 points 2 years ago

I use KDE Connect

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roguetrick 13 points 2 years ago

KDE Connect

Why isn't it Konnect?

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androogee 11 points 2 years ago

Multiple Ks in a row gets risky fast

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uis 3 points 2 years ago

Right, merica stuff.

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uis 9 points 2 years ago

КDE Кonneкt.

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booly 4 points 2 years ago

Yes, that's in the picture.

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PeriodicallyPedantic 39 points 2 years ago

Can you not just plug your phone into your computer, and then use your computer's file manager to drag it from your phone to your computer? It's this not a thing anymore?

Why the extra step of writing it to thumb drive?

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todd_bonzalez 23 points 2 years ago
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olutukko 5 points 2 years ago

remember when it was somehow trendy to take a picture with snapchat and the screenshot it to it shows the tools on right and post that on instagram? that shit was stupid as hell

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explodicle 3 points 2 years ago

I still do that all the time. I work with a bunch of different computers and it's easier than sending a file or writing the info down.

I get that there's device to device file transfers, but it's slower, and other employees would undoubtedly fill my phone with garbage screenshots, if not virus furry porn.

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PythagreousTitties 2 points 2 years ago

I shamelessly take pictures of my screen all the time if I have to.

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Takumidesh 6 points 2 years ago

That's not a USB drive, it's an adapter.

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dual_sport_dork 8 points 2 years ago

Nope, it's a USB drive.

Quite a few of the usual memory device manufacturers make drives that have a Type A USB plug on one end, and either Micro USB or Type C on the other. They're specifically meant for one end to easily plug into your PC, and the other end to go into your phone. Not, obviously, both at the same time.

Example: https://www.pny.com/...

Or: https://www.westerndigital.com/...

I have one sitting in my desk that's so old it still has a Micro USB connector on it and is therefore not terribly useful in this day and age.

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PeriodicallyPedantic 4 points 2 years ago

Male to male?
People are going to plug their phone directly into their computer without a cable?

Edit
The title says it's a USB drive, not an adapter

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Tabula_stercore 7 points 2 years ago

Ha gayyyyy

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fishbone 3 points 2 years ago

The adapter shown is functionally identical to a usb 2 to usb c cable. I believe the meme is essentially suggesting the same thing you did with using a file explorer.

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PeriodicallyPedantic 2 points 2 years ago

Kinda... But who the fuck has a male/female USB or usb-c cable sitting around???

One of the ends of this adapter should be female, or this should just be an A/C cord. The fact that it's not made me think that this is actually a thumbdrive, not that I can confirm if it actually is or what OP actually meant.

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Blackmist 3 points 2 years ago

They are, but I don't recommend it unless you want at least one of the ports to snap internally as it hangs out the front of the PC.

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Empricorn 1 point 2 years ago

Somehow USB disks are still the easiest and most reliable way

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majestictechie 5 points 2 years ago

I would do this before using a double sided USB

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Emerald 2 points 2 years ago

Can you not just plug your phone into your computer, and then use your computer’s file manager to drag it from your phone to your computer?

That's right, you cannot. Well, sometimes you can. MTP is quite an unreliable technology, at least for Linux users. Sometimes you'll plug in a device and it'll work fine, other times it won't even show up.

P.S. and yes I have enabled MTP on the android device

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PeriodicallyPedantic 2 points 2 years ago

Idk
I just plugged my pixel into my Ubuntu laptop, and tapped on the USB charging notification on my phone, selected "more options" and changed the selection from "no data transfer" to "move files".

Then my Ubuntu file viewer could see all my files. Or at least a lot of them.

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Empricorn 1 point 2 years ago

My employer encrypts external drives, including iPads and phones.

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Matriks404 1 point 2 years ago

Except that if you connect your phone to a computer using USB, it will transfer files using MTP and it's pain in the ass, as it's slow and unreliable. Sending files over Bluetooth is better (but not much) over using USB connection.

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marcos 1 point 2 years ago

Almost no phone would allow that nowadays.

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PeriodicallyPedantic 2 points 2 years ago

No phone allow which? Writing to a thumb drive (I believe that) or connecting to a computer directly?

Just tried connecting my pixel 7 to my Ubuntu laptop and it worked. Im pretty sure I've done it with windows too, on previous pixel phones.

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kungen -1 points 2 years ago

Maybe not trusting their computer having full access to their phone's files?

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PriorityMotif -2 points 2 years ago
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Evil_Shrubbery 36 points 2 years ago

IR data connection.

Print out on paper & scan it into the computer.

Copy the data into the computer in binary with an electron gun directly to SSD.

Recreate the data from scratch.

Install desktop os onto your phone & use it as your main rig to eliminate the need to transfer data in the first place.

Use an USB cable to connect the phone to a floppy drive & copy the data to floppy discs. And enjoy the asmr sounds as you do so.

Bluetooth if all else fails, but using a2dp dial-up frequencies.

Accept that there is no convenient way to transfer data & just live without it.

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DaCrazyJamez 6 points 2 years ago

Place phone on scanner and scan each screen

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Evil_Shrubbery 3 points 2 years ago

Oh, that's a good one, high tech, no need for extra data conversion on the PC, works for transferring videos as well :D

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01189998819991197253 4 points 2 years ago

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Scubus 3 points 2 years ago

Take your phones hard drive out and add it as an external hard drive

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Evil_Shrubbery 2 points 2 years ago

Nokia N91 actually had a hard drive (like literally a spinning hard disc drive).

So the method is valid, albeit a bit easy.

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MonkderVierte 1 point 2 years ago

SD cards are still a thing.

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Natanael 3 points 2 years ago

There's gigabit IrDA these days FYI, if you can find the adapters...

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Evil_Shrubbery 3 points 2 years ago

... oh, TIL.

Outside of regular simple-command remotes I only ever used IR data transfer between my PC and Nokia 3650 (bcs the proprietary connector had shitty contacts).

And it was slower than any of other methods previously listed.
(I don't actually remember, but less than 100kbps I think, about half the theoretical max iirc, some of which was the phone and the memory cards fault too)

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swag_money 26 points 2 years ago

or just a normal ass USB a to c cord

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simplejack 8 points 2 years ago

The real gangstas are living in the C to C future.

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Crafter72 25 points 2 years ago

https://github.com/localsend/localsend

I used localsend on desktop, laptop and my phones to sync stuffs between OSes and phones. What I likes is that it support multiplatform out of the box and works flawlessly between Windows, Android and Linux distros (tried both on Ubuntu, and LM without problem). It's just SHAREit without any stupid weird stuffs on it.

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Swemg 5 points 2 years ago

This is the shit

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kamen 22 points 2 years ago

Syncthing ftw. As soon as I plug my phone into a charger, it starts syncing everything to my NAS. Even if it's not charging, I can override the rule and force it to sync.

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Xylight 20 points 2 years ago

Can't you just plug your phone straight in and transfer the file? I still prefer KDE connect though.

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marcos 3 points 2 years ago

KDE connect only works painlessly on phones that allow you to use your files... As weird as it is, that's not most of them.

But you can still move them around somehow and force it to work. Also, the same works for syncthing. USB drivers haven't been the easiest option for a while.

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lengau 20 points 2 years ago

KDE Connect or Nextcloud. My phone has USB 2, but I can easily top 1 Gbit/s over wifi.

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Yerbouti 3 points 2 years ago

Nextcloud "Carnet" is the solution I had been waiting for for years. Instant uploads to my instance, I can access the files from any computer. Boom.

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BeardedGingerWonder 2 points 2 years ago

I'd add SMB as well, I use KDE connect for 1-2 files, nextcloud for photo backup and SMB for bigger transfers.

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funbreaker 20 points 2 years ago

I don't even need a double-sided boi because my dumb ass got lucky enough to pick a cheapo laptop with a USB-C port. The little sandisk drive is probably one my best investments into the phone besides the case.

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lud 5 points 2 years ago

Pretty much all laptops have USB C these days.

I also got a USB C flash drive and it's indeed incredibly convenient.

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remotedev 4 points 2 years ago

Even my desktop motherboard has a USBC slot

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lud 1 point 2 years ago

Yeah, most motherboards from the last 5-6 years (or maybe even longer) likely have USB-C.

Newer motherboards usually have an internal port so that you can get a USB-C front panel connector. I recently replaced my case for primarily that reason.

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Sam_Bass 18 points 2 years ago

I usually just plug my phone directly into the pc and copy the file directly

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pyre 7 points 2 years ago

me too. the double sided thing looks awkward.

there's also localsend if you prefer over wifi for any reason

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tuoret 2 points 2 years ago

Someone pointed out it's actually a usb stick with two different ends, which sounds pretty neat. I also thought it was like a cable without the actual cable part so your phone would just be dangling there awkwardly

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pyre 2 points 2 years ago

oh that makes more sense, yeah it looks like an adapter which feels terrible to use. but also if you need a quick transfer, doing it over a cable or wifi is still better since you only copy once that way.

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baltakatei 2 points 2 years ago

The USB Type-C is useful for sharing files offline between smartphones while the USB Type-A is useful when you want to backup files to a PC at some point.

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MystikIncarnate 16 points 2 years ago

One thing that really got me while working on computers and networking right as LAN networks became a thing in the late 90s and early 2K years was.... I'm connected to this switch, and so are they. Why do I need to burn a CD/use an external hard drive (later a flash drive), to move data?

Took me a while to figure out SMB/cifs, and when I did .... Game changer. Since then I've also learned all I can about storage, networking and file sharing. Most of my USB drives sit on my desk and don't get touched. I couldn't tell you what's on most of them. I've picked up a few thinking that I'll use it, but the most useful thing I've done with flash drives is to move data between computers when upgrading other people's computers. For me, I just make sure everything is backed up/synced to my local NAS, wipe the system and reinstall without a care in the world.

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Steamymoomilk 3 points 2 years ago

SMB shares are Peak. I got one setup for my home network I haven't used a USB since.

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Teppichbrand 2 points 2 years ago

Please share your setup

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Steamymoomilk 4 points 2 years ago

Its a CM3588 NAS board from friendly elec running openmedia vault Debian 11 with home-manager for nixpkgs. I run nextcloud for backing up my phone storage every night. And have SMB share setup for all my laser cuting files! Originally all my files for my business where running off a 4tb USB HDD which was starting to fail. And yes there was no backups. So after I made a little money selling my laser cut goods. Bought the CM3588 nas board with 2 one terabyte sata m.2 ssd's which are in raid 1 for redudancy. Also have a off site backup on the computer that runs the laser. And another tid bit all the computers I use are exclusively linux. The computer that runs the laser is zoron OS. My main rig runs nixos, my LAN gaming machine runs gentoo aswell as the laptop where I do most of the fianaces and designing. The laptop is a t440p which is librebooted and runs gentoo :D.

Hope that's enough detail!! Lmao

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vox 14 points 2 years ago

or just plug the phone into the computer?
and use either adb pull or mtp (adb is more reliable from my experience)

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Pika 14 points 2 years ago

I use KDE connect...

But my grandfather does the ol reliable method for image upload, which is:

  1. emails it to himself
  2. prints the email off
  3. scans the printout into his computer again
  4. uploads image to faceboom Facebook

I typo'd Facebook originally but thay was too good to get rid of so I just strikethrough'd it

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Lemminary 4 points 2 years ago

scans the printout into his computer again

Your grandpa got the memo that *inhales* IT NEEDS MORE JPEG! And took it one step further.

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ICastFist 2 points 2 years ago

Sounds eerily similar to what my mom does to save receipts, minus the facebook part

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umbrella 13 points 2 years ago
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RaoulDook 2 points 2 years ago

It's really not if you have the right setup at home, instead of using somebody else's servers. Like nobody has a NAS or their own servers?

It's much nicer not worrying about who can get to my files in the cloud, when they're not in the cloud.

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EvacuateSoul 1 point 2 years ago

I do, but I VPN in, so it would be a pain to talk someone through that and send them their key.

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umbrella 0 points 2 years ago
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antihumanitarian 12 points 2 years ago

KDE Connect and Syncthing do the trick for most stuff. For all else, all hail the USB C M.2 NVME enclosure.

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n1ck_n4m3 11 points 2 years ago

In Android just selectively enable wireless ADB debugging and then use ADB Explorer. Easier than plugging the phone in, wireless, and allows access to all folders on the device (including /Android/data/* which is blocked from being accessed using on-device file explorers). Turn it off when you're done. Boom, wireless data transfer to and from an Android device at way faster than cabled SMB speeds.

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aBundleOfFerrets 2 points 2 years ago

Faster than a cable, unless your device has usb 3.xx

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n1ck_n4m3 1 point 2 years ago

IDK, have you tried to copy files over USB-C/USB 3.0 to a phone? I similarly thought it was going to be much faster than it actually is, but it's still mind bogglingly slow using MTP -- especially with file creation operations. Want to move 5,000 small text files totalling 20MB? You'll be there for 8 hours, haha.

In my experience ADB is significantly faster than a cable (even USB-C+3.0), even when ADB is connected wirelessly. I typically get 20MBps-40MBps using ADB regardless of whether I'm writing large files or a bunch of small files, where at best I will (and a cursory google search sems to indicate most people will) see 8MBps-10MBps over the cable for large files, and when I'm copying small files (e.g., game roms for ScummVM or something), I will get maybe 1Mbps at the top end. Results are consistent between computers I use to copy, cables I use to copy, and phones I've copied data to.

I'm honestly surprised that in 2024 copying data to a brand new flagship phone using a USB cable is as poor of an experience as it is.

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Emerald 1 point 2 years ago

That would work great for me if it had a linux version. Theoretically someone could just use fuse for it

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n1ck_n4m3 2 points 2 years ago

ADB Explorer is really just a wrapper for adb-pull, you can use that manually on Linux but without the GUI it's true it's not quite as seamless.

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RomenNarmo 11 points 2 years ago

Kde Connect

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mlg 11 points 2 years ago

Nintendo DS wireless file transfer lol

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androogee 4 points 2 years ago

Gameboy color infrared is all I need

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Underwaterbob 3 points 2 years ago

Bangai Oh! Had custom levels you could load by playing a sound file into the mic on the DS. Wild stuff!

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thorbot 10 points 2 years ago

SMB has entered the chat

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simplejack 10 points 2 years ago

Wireless file transfers over the LAN. I ain’t got time to find my damn thumb drives.

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gentooer 3 points 2 years ago

Long live netcat

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todd_bonzalez 10 points 2 years ago
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Cryophilia 12 points 2 years ago

Pfft I've bet you've never even tried cross-pollinating a syncmap blockchain to your distributed SM-IP 42G node

Noob

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Ghoelian 7 points 2 years ago

I'm pretty sure the average user doesn't even know what a "server" really is, let alone know how to set up an FTP server.

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lud 1 point 2 years ago

Imagine not adding every single way to transfer a file to a simple meme.

What is the world coming too‽

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fury 9 points 2 years ago

Sharedrop

Open source. Works about as good as AirDrop when that isn't available.

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patak 9 points 2 years ago

Localsend ;)

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hungover_pilot 8 points 2 years ago

Localsend!

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Trilobite 8 points 2 years ago

I just email myself

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variants 1 point 2 years ago

Yeah I email myself for work stuff since we aren't supposed to plug in our phones to our work computers.

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gazter 2 points 2 years ago

Is there a file size limit?

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variants 1 point 2 years ago

yeah but I mostly send pictures so if I hit the limit I just send them over multiple emails

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uzay 8 points 2 years ago

LocalSend does it best

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Lojcs 7 points 2 years ago

Mtp is so unstable in my experience that I try to use anything else available

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obsolete 7 points 2 years ago

From my experience, a USB cable is the easiest to find/use.

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lowleveldata 3 points 2 years ago

From my experience, aone USB cable boi is the easiest to find/use.

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ArcaneGadget 7 points 2 years ago

Send via Bluetooth...

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DJDarren 0 points 2 years ago

sad iPhone noises

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KoalaUnknown 2 points 2 years ago

Send via Airdrop…

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DJDarren 1 point 2 years ago

I mean, yeah, but only to other Applethings.

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Chev 7 points 2 years ago

Always have a tiny USB drive on my key chain. The digital space is so huge nowadays and they cost almost nothing.

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gandalf_der_12te 7 points 2 years ago

rsync

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nickwitha_k 2 points 2 years ago

Came here for this.

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9point6 7 points 2 years ago

I feel a bit like a bit of a fossil here, but why not drop the file into a network file share and grab it from there on your phone? No physical item required

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MudMan 2 points 2 years ago

Cx Expolorer on Android can access network shares and Samba shares like a desktop OS. It really isn't a particularly outdated option, it's so much less fiddly than direct drive access from a PC and it effectively works just like a USB stick, interface-wise, without having to do the whole "where did I put my thumbdrive" dance each time.

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Kolanaki 6 points 2 years ago

I usually just use Bluetooth cuz I'm only transferring an image or two over. But if it's something big, I just use USB transfer because when the phone is plugged into the computer, it appears as an external drive.

Using this double sided boy seems like it would be putting a lot of weight on the USB port... 🤔

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AscendantSquid 8 points 2 years ago

I think it's a flash drive; you plug it into your phone, load files onto it, unplug it then plug it into the computer.

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0laura 3 points 2 years ago

oooh that makes a lot more sense, thanks. I was confused too

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son_named_bort 6 points 2 years ago

I've been using floppy disks. You mean there are other options now?

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Facebones 2 points 2 years ago

I need a USBC floppy drive now. "Hey, can I get that pic you took?"

"Sure! Its on these 4 floppies!"

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a_wild_mimic_appears 6 points 2 years ago

I use the Signal "Note to self" contact for smaller files, or SMB if i have to transfer large amounts - no usb-sticks needed.

for other people i normally upload either to https://send.vis.ee if it's a one time thing, to https://catbox.moe if i suspect that i have to share it more often over time or https://litterbox.catbox.moe/ for 3 day availability.

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Siegfried 6 points 2 years ago

There is a little "most advanced transfer solutions" in your Spyware

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aeronmelon 5 points 2 years ago

I pick one device-to-device option and it won’t load.

I pick another and it transfers at the speed of EDGE.

I end up just emailing the file to myself because my email is synced across all devices and it takes two minutes.

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programmer_belch 5 points 2 years ago

Termux, rsync and SSH.

Add a VPN and I can connect everywhere to my personal PC.

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baltakatei 2 points 2 years ago

Termux, rsync and SSH.

Worked okay until I got overzealous and killed my battery from leaving Termux on for convenience.

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callouscomic 5 points 2 years ago

Attach it to a draft email. Log in on the other thing, go to drafts, download your file, delete draft.

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LMagicalus 5 points 2 years ago
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GTG3000 1 point 2 years ago

I used to use FTP for file transfer, nowadays I just start up a HTTPS server on the source machine and grab stuff from there.

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knight 5 points 2 years ago
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SupraMario 5 points 2 years ago

Is FX bad now? Been using it for nearly a decade and it works great for me.

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lightnsfw 4 points 2 years ago

I use FX too. 0 problems.

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Valmond 1 point 2 years ago

I have a file manager named FX on my android (costef just a couple of euros), is thatwhat you ate talking about?

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SupraMario 2 points 2 years ago

Yep, been using the pro version for a long time.

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Realitaetsverlust 5 points 2 years ago

Local send.

You're welcome

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Nikls94 4 points 2 years ago

iPhone and Mac be like:

Device one: copy

Device two: paste

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DJDarren 4 points 2 years ago

Right up until it doesn't, for no reason you can ascertain.

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baltakatei 2 points 2 years ago

Just, buy a new iPhone and Mac every two years.

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DJDarren 1 point 2 years ago

Found Tim Apple's Lemmy account.

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sag 4 points 2 years ago

My charger cable that's all I want.

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then_three_more 4 points 2 years ago

Solid explorer FTP plugin has always worked fine for me.

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ASeriesOfPoorChoices 1 point 2 years ago

me too. Fantastic, simple, fast.

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AceSLS 4 points 2 years ago

ADB via USB for speed, rsync via WiFi for everything else

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renzev 1 point 2 years ago

Is ADB faster than MTP (the thing that android does by default when connecting over USB)?

QRCP is also pretty neat. It boots up a local http server to send/receive files and shows a QR code pointing to it. Works on android via termux as well!

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HakFoo 4 points 2 years ago

MTP is awfully slow on my Nokia G20 at least. OTOH, it has a uSD slot so I could just pop it out and transfer that way.

$150 phones are better than $1500 ones.

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renzev 2 points 2 years ago

$150 phones are better than $1500 ones.

Couldn't agree more lol. fLaGsHiP phones are such a scam. I got my current phone for like 300 euro: It's built like a tank, has a headphone jack, a microsd slot, unlockable bootloader, no camera bump, and if the usb port becomes damaged, I can just order a new one from the manufacturer and replace it using a single screwdriver. Meanwhile mainstream phones focus on bullshit gimmicks that nobody cares about like 5g, more cameras, glass back, "AI", thinness to inflate the price tag.

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lud 2 points 2 years ago

The biggest reason for flashghip phones is the camera quality and performance.

Thinness is also appreciated by most even if I don't know if flagships target that anymore.

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AceSLS 1 point 2 years ago

Is ADB faster than MTP

Yes, at least for every device I had in the past 6 years. By a lot actually

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MashedTech 4 points 2 years ago

Localsend

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abcdqfr 4 points 2 years ago

SMB/NFS

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Eww 4 points 2 years ago

I just put it on an SD card and pop it in my phone.

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Rin 4 points 2 years ago
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John 4 points 2 years ago

I use syncthing for regular syncing of files and warpinator for single files.

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Jumuta 3 points 2 years ago

honestly though the cloud ones are so bad, their ui is so slow, bloated and clunky, and they take ages to transfer files with

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renzev 1 point 2 years ago

My experience with owncloud/nextcloud tbh. Same buggy sluggishness of cloud storage services, but hey, at least it's selfhosted!

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Thcdenton 3 points 2 years ago

Man wetransfer used to be dope before they enshittified it

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Feathercrown 3 points 2 years ago

Bluetooth file transfer my beloved

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db2 4 points 2 years ago

That only works if the target is near. You may as well have said semaphore or signal fire.

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potustheplant 1 point 2 years ago

It's also pretty slow

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Ghoelian 5 points 2 years ago

Also a lot of desktops don't have bluetooth

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amazing_stories 5 points 2 years ago

And even the Desktops with Bluetooth can often have in incompatible version for file transfers. Bluetooth is a mess.

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ThisIsAManWhoKnowsHowToGling 3 points 2 years ago
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Feathercrown 2 points 2 years ago

:(

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SSJMarx 3 points 2 years ago
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JusticeForPorygon 3 points 2 years ago

Google Drive might be the single worst website I have ever used. Idk why, but Everytime I have to use it it takes forever to load, even though I almost exclusively have text documents saved, and the goddamn download button doesn't even work half the time.

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renzev 1 point 2 years ago

Whenever I have to use a cloud storage service for anything, I just add it to rclone. Solves the buggy UI problem pretty well! Dropbox/google drive subscriptions are a total scam, you can just create a new free account when your old one fills up /hj.

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hperrin 3 points 2 years ago

QuickDAV

Super easy. Move entire folders. Free and open source.

Also, what’s a figther?

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steersman2484 3 points 2 years ago

I use a private room in my Matrix instance

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EvolvedTurtle 3 points 2 years ago

I used to go to a trade school where we were learning very basic app development

This was such a good tool to test it on my phone

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jurgel 2 points 2 years ago

Warpinator

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LordBelphegor 2 points 2 years ago

Pairdrop, send over wifi

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merari42 2 points 2 years ago

Seafile. It's already on my phone when I want it there.

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Foni 2 points 2 years ago

never underestimate the data transfer speed of a truckload of hard drives

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halvar 2 points 2 years ago

Syncthing if I have to sync regularly, KDE connect from phone to PC and magic-wormhole if I want to send something to a friend.

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WIPocket 2 points 2 years ago

Run a ssh server on the phone and rsync stuff over.

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wreckedcarzz 2 points 2 years ago

FX File Explorer + local servers = check and mate. If I need access to it immediately from a machine, put it on my /home/drive/desktop folder and it will sync to my computers in a few seconds, via synology drive. This also works over the internet, so I can move the files at home, leave, and power up my laptop to see them available, seamlessly.

I have a second server running Debian that does the first half, but not the syncing part. It's more for docker stuff, not personal files.

I'm disabled too, so the less I have to physically move around, the better. Having a server to just dump stuff on and access from anywhere is amazing.

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Jimbo 1 point 2 years ago

Ha, Debian? More like Plebian /j

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Prunebutt 2 points 2 years ago

No one mentioned wormhole yet, so I'm gonna.

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JASN_DE 2 points 2 years ago

Nah. Selfhosted Nextcloud is far more convenient for me.

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rickdg 2 points 2 years ago

old iphone: hey guise

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dumblederp 2 points 2 years ago
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FMEEE 2 points 2 years ago

For Shure my 1pb school nextdrive...

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MonkderVierte 2 points 2 years ago
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edboythinks 2 points 2 years ago

you joke, but I've got my most recent salvo of audio books sitting in a double sided flash drive on my desk, right now

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derpgon 2 points 2 years ago

The one thing Apple did right. AirDrop is nice, and I wish PairDrop worked for Bluetooth aswell.

I mean, we already have Nearby Share/Quickshare on Samsung, but it is still kind of finnicky.

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redditReallySucks 2 points 2 years ago

Quick share works on all phones now. Google's nearby share was renamed to quick share. And there's also a windows client now

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ColdWater 2 points 2 years ago

Back in the day I had to use CD-ROM to move files around

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zxqwas 1 point 2 years ago

I used some app that was basically a gui for ssh/scp. Works wonders.

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interdimensionalmeme 1 point 2 years ago path: 0 11355383, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 0
sweetpotato 1 point 2 years ago

Pairdrop/snapdrop is the answer, it's foss as well

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Zacryon 1 point 2 years ago

Bluetooth

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dan 4 points 2 years ago

I think Bluetooth is only around 2Mbps. For a lot of people (at least in developed countries) it'd even be quicker to upload the file somewhere then download it on the other device.

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FlyingSquid 2 points 2 years ago

Pretty slow for a big file.

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Cort 2 points 2 years ago

Quicker than using your zune to squirt a song over IR

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nickwitha_k 1 point 2 years ago

...rsync or scp, depending on mood. If there's a non-*nix host involved, maybe SMB or NFS but that's on the device owner.

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IsThisAnAI 1 point 2 years ago

I've never once in 10 years had any difficulty using one drive or drive.

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renzev 3 points 2 years ago

Congrats!

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dual_sport_dork 1 point 2 years ago

I just access one of my many network shares with Root Explorer.

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shneancy 1 point 2 years ago

if it's an image or something small i just send it to myself on discord

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renzev 5 points 2 years ago

I knew a guy whose "password manager" was a discord server with only himself in it. He would just send username-password combinations as plaintext messages, and look back through the chat history when he needed to log in somewhere.

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shneancy 5 points 2 years ago

👁👄👁 man trusts his one discord password, himself, and discord's security way too much

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JusticeForPorygon 2 points 2 years ago

That can work for most things, but if it's something like a photo, you have to put up with compression

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shneancy 1 point 2 years ago

yea i'm aware, i rarely need full resolution photos on my phone. And if i do i send myself a wetransfer link on discord

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lightnsfw 1 point 2 years ago

Where SD card?

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ThisIsAManWhoKnowsHowToGling 5 points 2 years ago
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lightnsfw 3 points 2 years ago

One of many reasons I haven't replaced mine.

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Natanael 5 points 2 years ago

One double sided USB SD card reader with adapter for multiple cards sizes

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SkyezOpen 3 points 2 years ago

I have a USB c multi adapter somewhere. Had SD, micro SD, USB a to put a mouse on a phone or a regular flash drive. It was nifty until I lost it. A lot of modern mobos come with a USB c port so it's almost a universal tool.

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boatsnhos931 1 point 2 years ago

I don't like figters, they smell funny

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Spezi 1 point 2 years ago

Self-Hosted Pairdrop is perfection for me

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fffact 1 point 2 years ago

pairdrop.net

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zeekaran 1 point 2 years ago

If it isn't big I just message it to my partner, download it, the delete the message

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BehindTheBarrier 1 point 2 years ago

Didn't want to install something to move stuff of my laptop yesterday. Took a USB which has both a boot partition and a data partition, which worked on my W10 computer and moved it to the W11 laptop and it wouldn't recognize it...

Long story short, I had to manual set the partition id for the data part using diskpart for the data partition to be recognized. But that was a lot more effort than expected to move a few files over.

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nicknonya 1 point 2 years ago

warpinator cos it came preinstalled in my distro

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Maggoty 1 point 2 years ago

Depends on your workflow. I'm usually in google drive anyways. And the file is usually there anyways. So it's just a few clicks away.

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Dr_01000111 1 point 2 years ago

I use a USB cable with file transfer. I also do phone file management like this because it's easier

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IkarusHagen2 0 points 2 years ago
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helpImTrappedOnline 0 points 2 years ago

I made a dump folder on sync thing. When I want to share a file or 12, move it the dump folder and presto - the files are moved.

But yes, a USB drive is still very good for transfer, especially lots of files to other people.

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stebo02 -5 points 2 years ago
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