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tabris 257 points 4 months ago

“I guess apparently they had made a pledge to the public at large that they would make their club a safe space for all people, and that they would ban anything they deemed transphobic,” Chappelle reacted on his “The Midnight Miracle” podcast at the time. “This is a wild stance for an artistic venue to take, especially one that’s historically a punk rock venue.”

This guy doesn't understand any subculture, does he? The punks are, historically, very anti-fascist, and the ones I know are also some of the strongest queer allies I've ever met. And this guy is surprised that they didn't want his bigotry masquerading as humour.

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FartMaster69 147 points 4 months ago

And it’s not like you can’t make jokes involving trans people, just don’t make jokes at the expense of trans people.

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Naich 78 points 4 months ago

Humour doesn't punch down. That's just bullying.

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petrol_sniff_king 26 points 4 months ago

I feel like this punching model is like Newtonian physics. We do have relativity now, but you gotta take a higher-level class for that one.

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homes 2 points 4 months ago

Waka waka

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homes 23 points 4 months ago

Humor doesn’t HAVE TO punch down. There can be good LGBTQ+ jokes that are inclusive and sensitive, and, yes, actually funny while including the community and everyone in the humor without being hurtful.

It takes skill and craft to create them, and to deliver them, but, yes, they can exist.

Edit: a big part of comedy is commenting on things one observes. And there is lots to observe and comment upon with queer culture. The key is to comment and observe without being a bigot. Sooo… with a queer eye, that’s fertile ground, and one can do much with that.

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ech 11 points 4 months ago

If he talked to that "trans friend" he definitely has, maybe he could find out what being trans is actually like and incorporate meaningful material about it. But no, he's just another bigoted rich asshole now. All he can see is his own "struggles" and that the world is "out to get him".

*I was morbidly curious and looked up the transcript of his bit about her ('cause fuck listening to him) and wow, how does he think that is remotely supportive? He says the "magic" words ("trans women are women"), then spends the rest of the bit critiquing how well she passed, comparing her genitals to imitation meat, and lauding her for taking his and other people's abuse "well". Her only value seemed to be what she could provide to him. Also found out she committed suicide two years prior, so he's using a person as a shield/punching bag that can't even speak for herself. What a classless fucking move.

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scarabic 14 points 4 months ago

I think one of Dave’s mistakes is in thinking he didn’t have any “down.” His humor is brilliant and searing when it comes to being black. He’s done skits where he’s a slave. He sees himself as the historical victim of the ages and never imagined that anyone could take what he says as coming from above. Classic privilege blindness, and a great illustration of what that means intersectionally.

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wesdym 0 points 4 months ago

@Naich @FartMaster69 Well, it CAN. He's right about that much. An artist is free to make whatever choices they want. What he seems not to get is that everyone else is also free to judge you for the choices you make. You have a right to make fun of anyone you like, any way you like. But you don't have a right to have those choices admired or rewarded, and not criticized. And he's free to ignore the criticism, but he's not. He seems to want it both ways, and that's unreasonable.

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searabbit 26 points 4 months ago

But also, he needs to make jokes period. I saw his last special. If there were any punchlines following his ranting about the mean trans people bullying him online, I totally missed them.

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Epp 14 points 4 months ago

Right? I finished it sincerely wondering if it was intended to be comedy or not. There wasn't a single coherent joke in ninety minutes. Unless I was supposed to laugh that he bought a fire station and turned it into a club?

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Katana314 4 points 4 months ago

The best comedians can roast a president right to his face. The best presidents can hear the roast and laugh at it.

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homes 74 points 4 months ago

The punks were are extremely LGBTQ+ acceptant, even as far back as the 60s and 70s

Queercore

That’s part of what made makes them so fucking hot… all that leather? Are you kidding me?

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crandlecan 7 points 4 months ago

🤯 I was today years old when I learned that...

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NostraDavid -17 points 4 months ago

If punk was "extremely LGBTQ+ acceptant", then they did they have to create an offshoot? 🤔

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homes 18 points 4 months ago

I don’t think you understand punk

There’s no “have to” about it

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NostraDavid -1 points 4 months ago

I don't, which is why I posted the question.

edit: I don't understand punk, to be clear.

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Oyml77 13 points 4 months ago

If television viewers were accepting of cooking then why did they have to create a subgenre of cooking shows?

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homes 7 points 4 months ago

Stop it with your relentless “logic”!

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NostraDavid -6 points 4 months ago

That... doesn't make sense. Viewers don't make new shows.

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paper_moon 55 points 4 months ago

After not having a great time towards the end of highschool, I ended up spending most of my free time.between classes, in classes, and lunch, etc with the punk kids and the potheads. And they were some of the nicest and coolest fucking kids I've ever met. Super glad I had that experience because it definitely broke that propaganda fueled view I had of those two groups, for when i entered adulthood.

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Azzu 12 points 4 months ago

Kind of similar for me, except that even the punk people found me too weird/boring/annoying. They were nice about it but definitely not interested in spending time with me, just taking pity on me.

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petrol_sniff_king 5 points 4 months ago

Aww, haha.
I guess I can't really help, but I appreciate you. :p

Also, I was looking at your comment history because I was curious what kind of person you were. That guy activating his yugioh trap card and calling you a pedophile because you flippantly said 12-years and not 19 or whatever he wanted is so fucking funny. It didn't even make sense. That was like watching a bird glide into a glass window.

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Azzu 3 points 4 months ago

Haha, yep, I got a lot of joy from that, too. Guy must've never heard of when puberty starts and what it's for.

Thanks for the kind words :) I'm alright now, but that teenager time was definitely quite wild/painful for me. I'm glad to have met so many amazing humans and appreciate people like you, too.

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ech 0 points 4 months ago

There's propaganda against punks? I mean, I know the mild "troublemakers" label most get, but that generally applies to teens/YA in general.

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paper_moon 6 points 4 months ago

Yeah, the trouble maker part. Or people that are violent, etc. Going to punk music shows with mosh pits, etc..

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SparkyBauer44 21 points 4 months ago

Thank you! A friend tried that shit with me. "Why are you so against this, you hang out with racist skinheads!"... Face-palm. Amazing how one movie painted a whole anti racist subculture into boneheads. There are very few racist skinheads, FYI. It's a very working class pro Unity subculture. IT WAS JUST A MOVIE!

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orlyowl 5 points 4 months ago

Which movie are you referring to?

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tuck182 13 points 4 months ago

I'm going to assume American History X. Though it's certainly not the only movie to depict the neo-Nazi subculture, it's probably the most well know.

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SparkyBauer44 5 points 4 months ago

It is this one. The most popular, and the basis for the rest. Was this stuff happening? did it happen? Sure, but few and far between. Once AHX gained popularity, all of a sudden every skinhead is a nazi skin. When, in reality, it is a small, problematic number in a sea of mostly SHARPS (skinheads against racial prejudice).

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tpyo 3 points 4 months ago

Wild guess because I like guessing: American history x

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scarabic 13 points 4 months ago

I’m so sick of people trying to hide hate speech behind free speech, behind tolerance, behind pluralism. It’s hate. It’s hate. It doesn’t need to be protected and included. This is very old news. All they do by quibbling about it is broadcast to the world that their intellect is about 100 years behind the rest of us. Fuck you, Dave.

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FudgyMcTubbs -10 points 4 months ago

Wrong. Hate speech is deplorable, but it's not up to the state to decide good or bad speech. How long ago was it that queer advocacy would have been seen as bad speech by the government? I would assume that drag shows were not illegal thanks to the protections afforded it by freedom of speech, during times when the government and the people would have been more than willing to ban them. Would a government attempt to flag atheism as hate speech if enough evangelical protestants held office?Speech is speech (hate, good, bad, whatever) and the government should not be able to limit it whatsoever.

If you dont like dave, dont spend any money with him or anyone/any business that supports him.

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scarabic 10 points 4 months ago

I agree the state should not infringe speech. You are free to blow more word count than is actually in the First Amendment on reminding us that it exists, and you did. I get it.

But we can hold the belief that the state should stay out of it even while we personally shit on assholes spewing hate and crying “free speech” when they get a reaction to it. They have free speech - they cry about it because they want it to be guaranteed bandwidth / freedom from consequences. Fuck them and fuck that.

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FudgyMcTubbs -3 points 4 months ago

You are free to blow more word count than is actually in the First Amendment on reminding us that it exists, and you did. I get it.

Sorry about that. I just assumed you were dumb and irrational because of your take. My bad.

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DrivebyHaiku 3 points 4 months ago

As a counterpoint laws around hate speech do and have existed in Canada since 1970 and they are specific. We as a country also are more progressive than the states.

The way it works interfaces with the idea that some speech can call for violence or genocide against other geoups and can be liable to be charged under law UNDER SPECIFIC CONDITIONS.

1 - It has to be public - ie one is playing to a crowd. This covers things like making speeches over a microphone, or broadcasting propaganda through print or recording. This law does not apply to private speech. Amongst your peers in a social setting you can do or say whatever you like.

2 - It must regard the call for killing members of an identifiable group (ones outlined in the charter of Rights and Freedoms), or inflicting conditions of life on a group which are calculated to bring about the physical destruction of the group.

3 - It holds other protections- Laws that cover other rights like religion do allow religious views to be expressed or ones that pretain to a legitimate concern of public welfare. These however require citations from legitimate sources. If you are quoting a true historical event or a scientifically proven fact in your speech that actually happened and is documented by historians or scientists - there are protections. If what you are saying is provably untrue then the law takes into account a certain level of flexibility to sentencing based on a good faith understanding that a certain level of deviance from fact can be present as a matter of someone being ignorant.

4 - Like all laws it is a sliding scale. Like you can call the police for someone being a public nuisance by yelling their heads off at 3am - Most of the time this doesn't end in so much as a fine. In a non broadcast recording setting the cops basically tell the person to stop and only if they persist can they be arrested and even then they might not be charged. Nobody really has seen prison time under this law. Just fines.

A recent amendment to the law specifying holocaust denial has seen people sent to prison and even then it has only shut down those doing it persistently online because that specific rhetoric is historically documented as coming from a movement with clear intent to promote genocide.

The imagining of laws as not being capable of having balance with civil rights activism is a sham and it ultimately hurts minorities. Advocating for better rights or social acceptance cannot be punishable under these laws. Heck advocating for the decriminalization of hate speech is protected speech because there are laws REGARDING protected speech. If someone is calling to kill or inlict utter undeniable misery then they can do it without the benefit of a megaphone. It won't stop all speech, and it shouldn't, but if someone is trying to incite actual violence by documenting themselves advocating for actual demonstatable violence then society can have tools to make the cost of that higher.

However - Americans have an entirely different situation. Canada does not have private prisons that provide more pressure to incarcerate more people. We do not elect judges and the only way you can become one is to be a lawyer in good standing for over 8 years. Our documents regarding rights and freedoms is in modern language and not archaic text that requires historical scholarship to contextualize and deconstruct. There is no doctrine in Canadian law to protect the anachronistic interests of long dead founders of the country.

Law in America is much easier to use as tools of oppression. Your paranoia is not unfounded but it is a product of legally speaking coming from a broken home. Laws can be narrow and specific scalpels and not hammers. If they are made in the spirit of protection from violence and narrowed to that purpose they can be good. The rallying cry of "Freedom of speech" is already not absolute and has reasonable limits. It can and does have reasonable limits and those limits are protective of truth and the bodily safety of your fellow citizens who deserve to not be attacked and killed by other citizens radicalized by rhetoric made into weapons.

Keep your mind open.

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Katana314 1 point 4 months ago

I genuinely get how it can be a fine line, but people are at too much risk to allow poisonous words to go too far. We saw how powerful such lies can be in 2025, from people who literally regard the entire trans movement as terrorism.

Nazis can be allowed to state any thought that falls under basic logical/philosophic debate. That, to their minds, doesn't go very far. Once it becomes any form of grouping by identity, by circumstances of birth, by sexuality, it's just their incessant, generations-old obsession with hatred and is useless for any and all human discussion of progress. There is no grace in protecting it.

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BehindetheClouds 2 points 4 months ago

That's the first thing that jumped out to me as well. He doesn't understand punk rock or punks.

By Chappelle's standard it's perfectly okay to have a former pedophile doing stand-up at this venue. Now, who in the right mind would allow that? Other than you know who lol

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eestileib 1 point 4 months ago

Oh yeah punks would never take a punch for or be outcast for hanging out with trans people, Dave definitely knows his history.

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quick_snail -4 points 4 months ago

Yes. And there were a lot of Nazi punks too.

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Sgt_choke_n_stroke 168 points 4 months ago

If he did one special about a trans joke and apologized I'd feel different. He did 4 specials bashing trans people. Now this rat fuck is trying to "redeem" himself. He can go fuck himself. Just another rat fleeing the sinking ship. Don't forget he bought out elon musk and everyone booed him.

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Duamerthrax 97 points 4 months ago

And he called his audance poor when they booed Musk.

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BarneyPiccolo 35 points 4 months ago

He's poor, compared to Musk. If the Sociopathic Oligarchs had their way, he'd survive their purge, but not because he's rich, but because he'd be their dancing monkey. The moment he stopped being funny to them, they'd just send him off to the camps, and keep his paltry fortune.

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aesthelete 8 points 4 months ago

If the Sociopathic Oligarchs had their way, he’d survive their purge, but not because he’s rich, but because he’d be their dancing monkey.

Which is supposedly what he was refusing to be when he quit his show so long ago.

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Duamerthrax 1 point 4 months ago

Maybe they did get rid of him and what we're seeing now isn't the same person who ran off to Africa way back.

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VerilyFemme 41 points 4 months ago

Yeah, I feel like the first special was harmless.

All he really did was point out that trans people have a longer path toward acceptance than gay people.

But damn, did he quadruple down. Of course it's the Republicans' fault now that it's time to pay the piper.

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aesthelete 24 points 4 months ago

Dave chased "controversy" (aka bigotry) to stay relevant. Now he's somehow surprised that it was insincere culture war bullshit used to distract people the whole time? Fuck off.

The other thing is that his timing on this is opportune as well. He waited for Trump to become extremely unpopular before coming out with statements like this.

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HazardousBanjo 18 points 4 months ago

"Hey guys I just realized I allied with a bunch of fascist pedophiles and now the only people who want to associate with me are the same people who unironically called me the N word my entire life.

Can y'all just conveniently forget I did that and give me more money again?" - Dave Chappelle

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BehindetheClouds 3 points 4 months ago

Agreed.

I always make this comparison with Eddie Murphy.

The long and short of it is

Eddie Murphy did some gay jokes in his stand up special Delirious. He then references how gay people were angry at him and his next stand-up special Raw.

It takes up a minute and a half.

He never references again and the rest of the special is mostly about men and women, Johnny Carson and his family; with some small jabs at Michael Jackson and Italians watching Rocky.

And of course a fantastic bit about Bill Cosby. I think it's worth a watch just for that, considering everything that he has done.

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homes 115 points 4 months ago

That is absolutely what you were doing, you bigoted fuck bag. Don’t blame Republicans for laughing at your horribly bigoted jokes.

You engineered them specifically so that your bigoted fans would laugh at them, you piece of shit. Then you played the race card to try to get out of it, and it didn’t work because your bigoted piece of shit fans didn’t like Black people either.

And since those are your only fans left, you are left with nothing, and that’s all you deserved. Nothing.

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Tollana1234567 9 points 4 months ago

Dave dint have a problem going to Friday festival in saudia arabia

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homes 7 points 4 months ago

He didn’t have trouble selling out for a huge paycheck

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Tigeroovy 98 points 4 months ago

Remember when you prematurely ended your show because of some white guy laughing a little too hard at some of your racial humour in a way that you didn’t like? Well guess what Dave, that’s your fuckin audience now after you quadrupled down on your trans bullshit.

These are the people who you chose after you were politely asked to lay off the trans thing and you refused.

Too much of a disconnected rich guy now to give a shit what the poors think I guess.

Did the Saudi money already run out? You don’t get to cater to these jackals then claim innocence when they run with your jokes.

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aln 16 points 4 months ago

Iirc that was Bill Burr laughing at him during the taping of a sketch he was in

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Tigeroovy 1 point 4 months ago

Honestly kind of hilarious if it was Burr. I definitely always just assumed some random extra or something.

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Airfried 66 points 4 months ago

Let me guess he doesn't like Republicans because of their racism against himself specifically but he's totally down to hating other minorities all the same.

Newsflash: Queer rights are human rights, smart ass! We're in this together. Well, not you. You can eat shit, Dave.

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mattyroses 23 points 4 months ago

Ironically, Dave's entire argument has always been an idpol one. You can't criticize him, because as a Black man (even a millionaire) he's more oppressed than any other group.

And, like always, idpol over intersectionality is used to maintain the existing hierarchy. Guess what Dave, the leopards did eat your face.

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cenariodantesco 59 points 4 months ago

well as a black man I say Dave is weaponizing being black. he's trying hard to deflect the Saudi money and avoiding responsibility for the trans jokes. If he made one show, just one where he would express being sorry for the enablement of aggression he provided, sure i would look at him at a different light. claiming that people are being hard on him for being black, kneega please

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tempest 33 points 4 months ago

Listening to him say essentially " I can't be racist I have a trans friend" was wild.

I watched part of the special after that where he followed it up with more unfunny takes and tapped out.

He is also one of the comedians who would get on stage and complain about "being cancelled" because 10 people on Twitter told him his jokes sucked and that is such hack and unfunny.

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MachineFab812 -6 points 4 months ago

That's not what he said. He said that friend told him he should use those jokes in his show, after laughing heartilly. You gonna tell him he needs not just more, but specifically better trans friends?

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tempest 10 points 4 months ago

"my one black friend was cool with me using the n word so now I drop the hard r all the time".... You see how this is a crazy take.

He basically said they sucked opening for him and the rest of the story felt very much like he wasn't aware they were being deferential to a person who could make or break their career.

Plus he was doing all of the above while being entirely unfunny which is I think the cardinal sin of comedy.

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MachineFab812 -4 points 4 months ago

Yes, he had a problem with them being deferential in their stiff-ass performance as well.

He would have preferred if they were honest with him and funny, even at his expense, just like me and my queer friends would prefer most of the trans people in our community hadn't fled to San-Francisco to then base their on-line personalities almost entirely around bashing not just our town, but its queer community specifically.

Say it to our faces so we can laugh at our own expense with you - its one of the favorite pass-times of our Mid-western, historically-gay town, and many minorities, like Dave Chapelle.

How can you watch someone who ribs on themselves and everything about where they come from like that, and be afraid of and deferential to him? Will Smith was in the audience; he wasn't the one with the self-awareness to take the stage and say a bald woman looked like a badass. What did the comedian who could have beat Will's ass five-ways-from-Sunday do after that punch?

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Lucidlethargy 56 points 4 months ago

"I did, however, thoroughly enjoy the taste of Elon Musk's Nazi billionaire weiner in my mouth just before I brought him on stage at my show."

  • Dave, probably
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Tollana1234567 2 points 4 months ago

and then going to saudia arabia to have MSB oil billionaires wiener in his mouth.

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ExLisper 54 points 4 months ago

I've installed "Highlight This!" Firefox extension and added all the comedians that went to Saudi Arabia there. Now whenever one of them pops out on any site I know to just ignore it.

spoiler

Dave Chappelle Kevin Hart Aziz Ansari Pete Davidson Andrew Schulz Jo Koy Bill Burr Jessica Kirson Jimmy Carr Louis C.K. Sebastian Maniscalco Maz Jobrani Tom Segura Whitney Cummings Jimeoin Russell Peters Andrew Santino Bobby Lee Chris Distefano Mark Normand Gabriel Iglesias Hannibal Buress Sam Morril Jeff Ross Omid Djalili Ali Siddiq Zarna Garg Chris Tucker Ben Hart Jim Jefferies

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TachyonTele 23 points 4 months ago

Burr was hardest to hit when that list first came out. Dudes funny and always seemed to have a good head, (as redheaded as it is). Talk about a career ending decision, yeesh.

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gibson 17 points 4 months ago

talk about a career ending decision

Sadly I don't think many people care outside of the internet left bubble.

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TachyonTele 12 points 4 months ago

He cares and he knows his fans care

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oldwoodenship 11 points 4 months ago

I was really disappointed by that one. I’ve loved him since his first special but after taking blood money from the Saudis I just can’t watch anymore of his shit.

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TachyonTele 7 points 4 months ago

Old' Billy Bloodmoney

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Tollana1234567 4 points 4 months ago

He probably expected future gigs and payments from the saudias

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TachyonTele 2 points 4 months ago

If they had done a world tour thing, even just a couple more spots, that would have been different.

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Tollana1234567 2 points 4 months ago

i expect chapelle and the other people who went to festivel to live there permanently eventually.

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RaoulDuke25 3 points 4 months ago

He's still pretty sexist.

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DontRedditMyLemmy 2 points 4 months ago

How did he rationalize it? Does it hold a drop?

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TachyonTele 12 points 4 months ago

From what i know it's he defended the tour with the same PR nonsense all the others gave, like they agreed on reasons together. They claim it's racist to not do a show for the Saudi people. That completely disregards the fact they performed for the Saudi family. Beyond that i haven't listened to him at all.

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WhiskyTangoFoxtrot 7 points 4 months ago

Kinda disappointed about Jimmy Carr. Don't really care about the rest.

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TranscendentalEmpire 21 points 4 months ago

I mean..... It does fit his persona, dude will do anything to fund his endeavor to not look old.

Plus he has a history of tax fraud.

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prole 3 points 4 months ago

I stopped listening to Bill Burr's podcast and sent an email telling them why

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Tollana1234567 1 point 4 months ago

Bobby Lee went to the festival, I can seem him doing that. He apparently was pretty destitute in his career after madtv

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ech 54 points 4 months ago

Right, he was "only" targeting transgender people for money. Way better. /s

Get bent, Dave. You became the thing you used to mock.

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southsamurai 52 points 4 months ago

This fucking quote

Everything seems absolute, and any opinion I respect is way more nuanced than these binary choices they keep putting in front of us. I don’t see the world in red or blue.”

He just doesn't get it

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VerilyFemme 21 points 4 months ago

Nonbinary Chappelle???

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crandlecan 3 points 4 months ago

Is it cause he's black? 😇

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Katana314 0 points 4 months ago

I'll grant that the most common opinions in America tend not to match up with what many believe to be "the extreme end" of red and blue. I'd even say Russian bots have spent time falsely convincing us of what most Republicans are like - to try to manufacture more rage and hopelessness.

In Chappelle's case, I predict it's basically just enlightened centrism. Could be cured by playing Disco Elysium.

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Triumph 49 points 4 months ago

That's not what he thought he was doing, but it's absolutely what he was doing.

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ivanafterall 21 points 4 months ago

He knew what he was doing. He's not dumb. Well, anyway, he knew what he was doing. He just doesn't like seeing the paychecks dry up, poor baby.

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Tollana1234567 4 points 4 months ago

Seems like joe roegan, Caitlyn jenner is seeing which way the wind is blowing the shit smell and trying to flee, they cant be forgiven for fomenting and actively recruiting people to the right wing

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Amnesigenic 8 points 4 months ago

He knew, he's lying

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HeartyOfGlass 41 points 4 months ago

He stopped making money on the trans-bashing & now has to backpedal for a better paycheck.

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Retail4068 -76 points 4 months ago
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petrol_sniff_king 52 points 4 months ago

He said that he was on team terf, like JK Rowling, because trans people were too annoying not to be.

Look, I get it, Dave Chappelle was cool circa 2000, but he's fucking lame now. I'm not going to pretend that this cowardly, always pissing and moaning about cancel culture, has-been comedian is worth spending any of my time on. If he wanted to come back and be as well liked as he used to be, he should have been funny.

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Duamerthrax 38 points 4 months ago

He made 4 specials bashing trans people. He didn't fail a purity test. He failed the thoroughly mixed test. Between the trans "jokes" and calling his audance poor for booing Musk, he's clearly a class traitor.

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prole 30 points 4 months ago

Yeah no, this isn't a leftist purity test.

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MachineFab812 -5 points 4 months ago

They said "progressive", not leftist.

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sen 9 points 4 months ago

I love hearing people bash progressives for arbitrary tests when the standout feature of the right is false piety.

Pretend to pray super hard or you're in the out group.

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lobut -1 points 4 months ago

I agree with in principle but I don't think Dave Chappelle is the example that you're looking for

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Duamerthrax 4 points 4 months ago

The only person I can think of who deserved people backing off of was Stephen Fry when he "defended" Rowling. Really, he only asked people to back off of her and didn't comment on any of her ideas. He had too much of a history of political commentary and activism that carried more weight then a comedy show. I decided to sit on the fence regarding Fry.

Last year or so, he commented that Rowling was a lost cause. I'm guessing up to that point, he had been trying to reason with her because he knew her personally. He's never not been an alley.

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commander 40 points 4 months ago

Dave Chappelle the older he's gotten, the more he's punched down. It's not like he wasn't doing that when he was younger, he just got worse and worse over time. Then he tried to be one of the good ol' boys and just wasn't rich or influential enough to fit in and now he wants to pretend he isn't a crappy person deep down. It's a bit hard to make it far in entertainment if you aren't pretty self-centered and opportunistic. He just unmasked to the crowd that weren't his audience and now he wants back in with the younger crowd again

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null 6 points 4 months ago

Did the money get to him? Was he always like this and not having fuck you money kept him in check?

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commander 10 points 4 months ago

He was probably always like this to a degree. Thing to keep in mind is that political alignments when it comes to voting blocs aren't all or nothing. Even if historically Chapelle has voted democratic, that doesn't mean he cared for everything equally or at all and this applies very much to black people and racial minorities in the US and western European countries and leftist parties as those parties are seen as less racist parties so you really don't have as much leeway to vote for other issues when your safety and basic rights as a minority group are more of a concern over stuff like economic/immigration/healthcare/sexuality/gender/etc policies. Like Chapelle will dependably care for politics that are pro-black Americans but any other race, I'm skeptical he actually cares and very likely doesn't care for matters of gender and sexuality. In regards outside of social black american policies, he may very well be firmly conservative. It just wasn't good for his brand earlier in his career

Similar vein would be like the past decade of popular rappers being way more embracing of the republican party than in the past. Like Snoop Dogg, Lil Wayne, Nicki Minaj. Like do Beyonce and Jay-Z really care about the working class or other races. Jay Z was a crack dealer and in the Epstein papers and Beyonce has consistently made use of sweatshop labor and been ruthless with her touring employees. Social progressives in regards to the what they identify with, conservative in regards to their money and possibly other identities.

Racism is still a problem but this isn't the 70s. It's not that surprising considering how mainstream homophobia a lot of rap used to be up to the early 2010s. So as multiculturalism continues to become more and more normal, I have expected for a long time for left/right voting splits by race to trend towards 50/50. In the past openly conservative actors/musicians/comedians/entertainers/etc were a lot more common. I'm guessing the civil rights movements going mainstream is what changed that. Then as the civil rights movements that had huge swaths of people could identify with starting passing some good enough threshold, demographic based civil rights becomes more niche and parties have to experiment with messaging and being a conservative entertainer/artist stops being career suicide

I think there should be some healthy skepticism for actors and their actual political alignments. It's been practically required for public relations for entertainers to be seen as leftist but at the studio executive and I expect at the funding source producer level, there's always been a high percentage of conservative representation. And publicly rich leftist, I've never seen them as eager to fund leftist political causes like publicly rich conservatives. Well known advocate for victims of sexual abuse, Ashton Kutcher, was quick to defend his close friend and serial rapist from that 70s Show. Stories of him and Wilmer Valderrama make them both sound predatory towards young women/girls.

Like their shouldn't be any genetic reason why white people should be more conservative across the board of polices. The same really for LGBTQ people being progressive which is why I'm never surprised about the existence of conservative people of LGBTQ backgrounds. People always mention how western European politics are so much more leftist than American but to me that only really applies to the social safety net but that doesn't apply to overall policy in regards to capitalism, immigration, foreign policy/imperialism-racism outside of their own borders. As non-white populations in European countries increase, to me it looks like race politics and racism have become more and more reflective of the US. I have doubts the social safety nets in Europe would have ever been passed if at the times their populations were as racially diverse as the US was in the 50s-80s

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JennaR8r -1 points 4 months ago

Sounds like you haven't heard of the "Dave Chappelle was murdered & cloned" conspiracy theory. I recommend going down that rabbit hole.

According to this theory, the last time the real DC was ever seen was on the Oprah Winfrey Show a couple decades ago. Around that time the entertainment industry moguls were dangling a multi-million dollar offer in front of him but he saw right through it & saw the manipulative corruption in the stipulations proposed in the contract and he declined the offer.

He left on a solo vacation to Africa to escape the public eye & clear his mind, and when he came back he allegedly quietly went back to revisit the multi-million dollar offer but still wouldn't conform with their demands so...

here's where shit gets weird, consider yourself warned:

They took him down to an underground cloning lab, harvested his DNA etc to create their idea of the ideal Dave Chappelle who would appease both audience & industry, for purposes of financial gain for entertainment industry moguls & to keep audiences complacently entertained. Cloning complete, they murdered the original Dave Chapelle.

The DC we see now has a deeper voice, ripped huge muscular body, makes less controversial comedy than before, while still captivating audiences* & bringing in revenue for the entertainment industry moguls which is all they want him for.

*His most intelligent discerning fans know this isn't the real DC, and those closest to him, friends & family & close colleagues, have repeatedly reported that the current DC is NOT the same person they used to know. Literally a completely different person.

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null 4 points 4 months ago

The most sane and reasonable explanation, yes.

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yakko 39 points 4 months ago

Hey Dave, what did the five fingers say to the face?

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iltoroargento 19 points 4 months ago

"Unityyyyy!!!"

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tacosanonymous 37 points 4 months ago

Even if that was true, it's not, he'd still be a NIMBY piece of shit.

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MachineFab812 10 points 4 months ago

NIMBY Chapelle is a new-one for me. Whatchu got?

Holy fuck, okay, that was easier and shittier than I anticipated by-far. Blocking multi-family housing? Wow

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Tigeroovy 7 points 4 months ago

Yep, he really went out to advocate for not letting poor people move into the neighborhood.

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Tollana1234567 4 points 4 months ago

He became the white people he joked about

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Ibuthyr 35 points 4 months ago

I used to like him somewhat. But I put on one of those Netflix specials with him and tuned out around 10-15 minutes in because he was just unfunny and hateful. Same with the British bloke, who's name I forgot. He was pretty based when he called out the actors being friends with Epstein during the Oscars but the latest gig was just "haha, girl with a cock, hahahaha lol, man with tits". It's just not funny. If you make jokes about minorities, at least have them be funny and not hurtful. It can be done, just not like this.

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Senal 21 points 4 months ago

Condensing english prick comedian?

Probably Ricky Gervais

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Horsey 11 points 4 months ago

Ricky Gervais is who you’re thinking of. He’s essentially an insult comedian who became famous on a radio show ragging on his costar. In context, he’s just doing his thing…

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insaneinthemembrane 8 points 4 months ago

Didn't he become famous for The Office?

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Horsey -3 points 4 months ago

Both happened concurrently, but the radio show lasted well beyond the office. It was the most downloaded podcast in 2006, and got him a show on HBO. He’s absolutely not known for the office.

https://en.wikipedia.org/...

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mojofrododojo 14 points 4 months ago

He’s absolutely not known for the office.

do you have any idea how big that show was in the UK?

holy shit mate

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Blackmist 6 points 4 months ago

He is absolutely known for The Office.

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mojofrododojo -14 points 4 months ago

insult comedian

lol, someone's upset. was it the criticism of religion? probably

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Horsey 0 points 4 months ago

Upset about what? I fuckin love Gervais

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mojofrododojo -20 points 4 months ago

dude's a genuine comic's comic, he's funny in all circumstances, but to you he's just some insult comic who got famous "on a radio show ragging on his costar."

like, that's petty levels of dismissive imho. the kind of shit I expect to hear from whiney zealots pouting about their invisible friends.

haha lol found the whiney zealots pouting about their invisible friends!

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DavidDoesLemmy 1 point 4 months ago

Oh yeah, and also that other comedian I've forgotten the name of. What a dick.

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Adulated_Aspersion 33 points 4 months ago

Backpedal much, David?

Now that the powers are slipping, assholes like this are going to do a bunch of "it totally wasnt me" activity.

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itisileclerk 32 points 4 months ago

Does Dave Chappelle know he is a dick?

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W3dd1e 10 points 4 months ago

I doubt it. Dickheads are never self aware.

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SaveTheTuaHawk 6 points 4 months ago

He lives in a bubble of people telling him he's great, like most dicks.

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CultLeader4Hire 5 points 4 months ago

That’s the weird part, I’m pretty sure he does

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Goferking0 3 points 4 months ago

Does Dave Chappelle know care he is a dick?

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winkerjadams 2 points 4 months ago

Nah he has fuck you money

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inb4_FoundTheVegan 31 points 4 months ago

Desperately rewriting history after not wanting to play conservative crowds anymore. Fuck off Dave. If he apologized and changed I MIGHT hear him out, but all he is doing now is shifting blame.

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eestileib 31 points 4 months ago

Fuck you Dave Chappelle.

FUCK YOU.

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corbindallas 28 points 4 months ago

Inhuman fuck. Take your fame and fortune and go fuck off in a castle with jk Rowling.

Garbage. Fucking. Human.

If you can target marginalized humans, MAKE FAME AND FORTUNE OFF OF THAT, you can target any human. You're no better than any other bigot or racist. You showed your colors. Fuck right off.

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NostraDavid 5 points 4 months ago

You showed your colors.

I know! He's black!

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Tollana1234567 2 points 4 months ago

Isn't black absorbing all colore

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NostraDavid 1 point 4 months ago

Yeah, black in colour-theory is technically a lack of colour, and white is the most colourful, as it's a combination of all colours (or at least red, green and blue).

Skin colours are weird. I'm not white - I'm like a peach colour. But it is what it is, and I've not found better names, without sounding like a pedantic asshole.

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GreenKnight23 -12 points 4 months ago

yes, get mad at the comedian that has made an entire career on racist jokes and tropes.

it was funny when it wasn't about you, but now it's just a bridge too far.

not supporting him, but certainly pointing out the hypocrisy in drawing attention to his behavior now after 35+ years of allowing him fame and fortune.

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Tronn4 28 points 4 months ago

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Katana314 9 points 4 months ago

I wish that skit was just comedy sketches. White supremacist (billionaire) propaganda is so effective there really are some terribly racist black people out there.

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ech 5 points 4 months ago

There's always been self-hating members of the oppressed, ranging from true believers to those that think being "one of the good ones" will save them.

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Jestzer 26 points 4 months ago

I’m not even mad [people] take issue with my work. Good, fine. Who cares?

The classic words of somebody who deeply cares.

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Dead_or_Alive 25 points 4 months ago

Yeah fuck that, if you lay down with pigs don’t get upset when you wake up covered in shit.

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quick_snail 4 points 4 months ago

Pretty sure pigs wouldn't be covered in shit if they weren't locked in a small pen

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LaunchesKayaks 10 points 4 months ago

Wild/feral pigs still intentionally cover themselves in mud and shit. To keep cool and protect from the sun.

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Tollana1234567 0 points 4 months ago

They also spread disease through their shit too

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PhoenixDog 6 points 4 months ago

You spread it through yours as well.

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LaunchesKayaks 4 points 4 months ago

So do people

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BeardededSquidward 23 points 4 months ago

He punches down at every opportunity, he's a perfect right wing comedian because that's all they do too.

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JustTheWind 20 points 4 months ago

Sounds like someone's having a little bit of buyer's remorse, huh? This is why you never drink the Kool-Aid

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minkymunkey_7_7 13 points 4 months ago

He sealed the deal when he invited Musk on his stage to suck him off. He showed the world who he really was at that point, make no mistake again.

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Bakkoda 20 points 4 months ago

" I'm monetizing them. "

• Dave

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Star 20 points 4 months ago

You helped cause this, dummy

Learn and make up for it, then you get forgiveness

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58008 19 points 4 months ago

Has he seen his own comedy specials?

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Epp 3 points 4 months ago

They haven't been comedy in a long time. Just "special."

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crandlecan 18 points 4 months ago

Too late. And to me, that was exactly what you were doing.

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curiousaur 16 points 4 months ago

What an odd thing to say.

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null 16 points 4 months ago

His set list of punching down on trans people ain't hitting like it used to and it's affecting his money.

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webkitten 15 points 4 months ago
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wampus 14 points 4 months ago

Dude waited until the republicans became super unpopular to come forward and feign concern. Dave's got some funny material, but this is pretty blatant pandering.

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Tollana1234567 2 points 4 months ago

Also he went to the ridayh festival which dint help him

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wampus 2 points 4 months ago

Helped his bank account balance...

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BurgerBaron 13 points 4 months ago

Narrator: That was in fact, what the Elon Musk fan named Dave was doing.

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TotalCourage007 13 points 4 months ago

Dave Chapelle is what I like to call a Comedian Bro, sister to Podcast Bro. Having money doesn't always make you a classier person.

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verdi 13 points 4 months ago
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ASLWriteFan 13 points 4 months ago

thats exactly what he was doing. Now that there is tangible real world legislative harm happening in his own state even some of his starry eyed supporters, ticket buyers, even family are turning on him. So he wants to pretend he was doing something else. Not to mention the things he said about people over reacting to Louie CK's harassment and gross behavior with other female comedians, and that fact he kept bringing CK to perform at his events.

When you tell the world who you are, and in doing so you contribute to people getting hurt, everyone should believe you the first time, not the second where you try to back pedal. I hope that entire little town he's trying to turn into a playground for the rich spits him out, but they won't because people love being near celebrity.

And the celebrities around him, they know he's shit. I'll bet Michelle Obama said something to him about his image and impact when he brought her around his mama, and now he's trying to pretend like he's not culpable for hurting so many trans people in his state alone (you should see the law it just passed).

He's a dick and like JK Rowling no one should support him and no one should let him pretend he did anything but stab trans people and women in the face.

Fuck that guy.

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Tollana1234567 1 point 4 months ago

you see, hes also not apologizing for saying transphobic jokes, just that "other people made me do it"

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resipsaloquitur 11 points 4 months ago

This is the guy who complains about affordable housing, right?

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frozenfoxx 10 points 4 months ago

Fuck you, Chappelle

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Duamerthrax 8 points 4 months ago

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LogicalFallacy 6 points 4 months ago

Speaking of, does anybody still listen to what Bill Burr has to say?

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buddascrayon 13 points 4 months ago

You mean ever since he sold out and took Saudi blood money?

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LogicalFallacy 7 points 4 months ago

That is the exact thing I was referring to. I hear he still does podcasts but my algo dropped him faster than I could.

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beejboytyson 6 points 4 months ago

Nah it was. Beta male cuck out here playing both sides like cuck Rogan.

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obvs 4 points 4 months ago

If you want to know how horrible of a person Dave Chappelle is, he thinks that this is redeeming for him.

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badbytes 3 points 4 months ago

THEY

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gravitas_deficiency 1 point 4 months ago

The fuck you say, Chapelle?

You absolutely helped to weaponize the right’s agenda against trans people with your rhetoric. It’s one of the primary reasons I refuse to watch your content anymore. Fuck all the way off.

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VitoRobles 1 point 4 months ago

Fuck you Dave Chappelle. We appreciate what you did for black and Asian folks. But your treatment of LGBTQIA makes you a piece of shit. So fuck off.

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FatVegan 7 points 4 months ago

Even people who say that it's just jokes, hontstly i just thought it wasn't even funny. Like it wasn't even worth saying it for the bit.

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vantablack -1 points 4 months ago

i wish that person who had attacked him onstage a handful of years ago had finished the job

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corsicanguppy 0 points 4 months ago

Who taught you violence is a good thing?

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AlecSadler 7 points 4 months ago

France

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sin_free_for_00_days 3 points 4 months ago

History.

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altphoto -3 points 4 months ago

How about jokes about guys with enormously long penises? Eh? Long enough to tie them in a bow? If I could tie mine in a bow I wouldn't but I also wouldn't be out of the house.

Not without a short firehouse that is stuck to my pants.

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DioramaOfShit -15 points 4 months ago

Has anyone here hating on Dave actually watched his stand up?

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Epp 14 points 4 months ago

I watched his newest Netflix special coincidentally last night. I didn't laugh once. I'm not even certain he was trying to be funny honestly. It seemed like just a ninety minute monument to his ego. Watched the entire thing, start to finish, and the credit sequence was just a series of pictures of him with famous people.

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athatet 13 points 4 months ago

I saw the bit where he said he was team terf and on jk rollings side. Don’t really need to see anything else do I?

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TachyonTele 8 points 4 months ago

Have you?

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ASLWriteFan 2 points 4 months ago

yes. and it sucks.

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sin_free_for_00_days 1 point 4 months ago

I was a huge fan back when he was funny.

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DavidDoesLemmy -17 points 4 months ago
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thatsTheCatch 21 points 4 months ago

He literally said "I'm team TERF"

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Tigeroovy 9 points 4 months ago

Nah, his jokes used to be funny. Now he’s just an out of touch old bitch who complains all the time and calls it jokes.

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youcantreadthis -21 points 4 months ago

Dave chapelle has always been technically brilliant.

Bravo, sir. Bravo.

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ivanafterall 7 points 4 months ago

tips hat

m'sir

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youcantreadthis 2 points 4 months ago

Not one of those, but im buying an annoying hat just to steal this.

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FudgyMcTubbs 4 points 4 months ago

I saw Dave's live set in Ann Arbor circa 2003. It was very good, and his crowd work was second to none. I dont think he told more than 5 bits. Instead, he spent his time interacting with the audience. Ive not seen his new material, really. I prefer to remember him by that live set 23 years ago. Also Half Baked was great.

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youcantreadthis 1 point 4 months ago

This bit is up there. Im kind of loving it.

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Retail4068 -43 points 4 months ago
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petrol_sniff_king 26 points 4 months ago

Why did you post this twice? It was just that good?

I'm sorry that your favourite comedian is unlikeable. Better luck next time.

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crandlecan 11 points 4 months ago

Update: it, in fact, was not so good...

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prole 18 points 4 months ago

This reads like someone who wants to keep using "purity test" here incorrectly so that it loses it's actual, valid, definition.

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