Sure, but that's not what the policies are for. If/when someone gets injured on the job the policy is standardly they require you to take a drug test then. If you fail you were breaking policy and the injury is deemed your fault, thus taking all responsibility of paying you workers comp off the table. Happens every day across the U.S. (that said I believe you can fight it, as you aren't always automatically eliminated if you fail the drug test, you will have an up hill battle though)

To be fair, America initially lost the war on terror, then switched sides, so they’re technically winning.

Because their leaders are idiots who think attacking the symptom will eliminate the cause.

And Vietnam. And Iraq. And Afghanistan. And koreas. The US is just terrible at war tbh.

Abstract concepts dont tend to have the capacity for surrender, after all.

Losing the war in Iran.

The pay is what doesn't add up

They can't find enought workers that will accept shit pay and 0 benefits, but they don't like saying that.

AI sucks at screening. But everyone is doing it.

For us it's an issue with marketing the position in a manner thay doesn't result in 5,000 automated applications from an Indian headhunter firm that blindly clicks everything.

I've had a job opening at my city for weeks that pays higher than any other city in the state does for the same position, and we've had a grand total of one applicant who wasn't qualified.

Well there actually isn't anyone looking at the applications! That would cost someone $20 a hour!

Most job applications are just data farming now. They aren't for jobs that exist.

I'm 36 and have been drugs tested once. They reckoned they'd seen me drop a gram of coke on camera so I got 6 weeks paid holiday.

I live in Germany, and over here unless your employer can present a damn good safety critical reason for why you must be sober at work (e.g. operating heavy machinery) it's not even legal to randomly drug test employees.

For your standard office job, or McDonalds cashier, or even high level office positions it would all be illegal for the employer to (randomly) drug test you.

As long as you're not operating dangerous machinery, it's none of your employers business what you do off the clock at home, even if that's consuming illegal drugs. They can (obviously) ban you from being high at work, but they would reasonable suspicion to accuse of you violating that, and potentially trigger a test (which means effectively the thing that is banned is for your performance at work to be impaired by drugs. If you work equally well high as sober, and don't reek of weed when you walk in, you can pretty much just work high without risk of much consequences)

Yeah, most restaurants dont test for drugs for a reason.

On the flip side, I've had to take a drug test for every single job I've ever had. Most are sales related. But I travel for work so I kind of understand the need 10 years ago when everything was illegal. Now that weed is mostly legal everywhere its pointless to even test for it.

Im 46, and I've only had one job that didnt do a pre-employment drug test. But most of my jobs have involved machines that can hurt people if not handled right.

I have told prosprective employers to fuck off over:

take a drug test

Take a psych test

Unlock my credit for credit checks

Take a full face scan

Register with id.me for the application process

a handful of my jobs they knew i was heavily medicated and were offering me more drugs (part time office work in between surgeries)

I've been tested only twice in my life (I'm nearly 60), once while in college for an engineering internship at IBM and once five years ago when I started driving a school bus. I actually failed the IBM drug test (for marijuana) but they just told me to "clean up my act" and gave me the intership anyway. I'm kind of OK with drug testing school bus drivers only because there's not really any way of testing whether or not a driver is currently high. On the other hand, they don't regularly test drivers for alcohol and it's more common than most parents would want to know for drivers to be drunk.

And to feed the prison industrial complex, of course.

The war on drugs is an excuse to criminalize being black, poor, or some other flavor of undesirable. Then the police round you up for drugs and put you in prison. Then the three strikes laws came and if it was the third time they got you, it was a felony and you got even more prison time. Add private prisons into the mix and you get judges being bribed to pipeline people into prison, along with prosecutors and police incentivized in other ways to put people in prison and the result is the American prison system, with a higher percentage of incarceration than any other nation in the world. Yes, including the 'repressive' states like China and Russia.

I quit vaping wax recently because I was tired of goldfish brain and, on top of my memory returning, the most noticeable shift was the return of dreams.

I actually dreamed that I ate an edible and freaked out, only to realize I was in a dream. It's the closest I've come to lucid dreaming in a very long time.

Sooo vivid. Like too vivid. Like scarringly vivid. Be careful easing off the pot, that's all I'll say.

the only thing I noticed was the return of dreams

Same thing happened to me. I quit wake-and-baking about five and a half years ago because I felt it had just taken over too much of my life. Shortly afterward I became a school bus driver, which requires an initial drug screening and then you're subject to random tests thereafter. I'm a little pissed that I've never been selected for the random test, which means I could have been happily puffing away for the last five years.

The dreams are insanely weird and happen every time I sleep, even just a short nap. Most of the dreams are about me messing up driving a school bus and losing my job; one dream was me driving through high school hallways with kids scattering in all directions while thinking I really shouldn't be doing this. I never dreamed at all when I was smoking.

Those unemployment statistics often lump in people who can't work (disability) or aren't looking for work (like a stay at home parent/caregiver). It's rarely just people actively looking for work and not finding it.

You really have to dig into how the percentage is calculated to get any real value out of it.

My company is hiring and I don't think we drug test at all. If anybody in Los Angeles wants to make sheet metal, PM me.

Health care should be one of the top 3 places to test. But having worked in healthcare for 20+ years a doctor could come in for the drug test, do a rail in front of the tester, make the hold the cup while they piss all over the place and walk out smiling, and admin would think nothing less of it

It'll never happen as long as Republicans are running the show.

I mean, you'd have to be on something to take a job like that.

I've never understood the fight. How could no drugs ever hope to beat yes drugs?

I don't even bother studying for drug tests anymore. If they care about weed and mushrooms then I'll work elsewhere.

Yea safety, but what the fuck does the things I do in my free time have to do with work? Are the bosses also testing for alcohol and drugs? How do we know they aren't doing drugs that metabolize faster than can be tested? You want me to not do drugs pay me on my off time as well if not get bent and I won't work there

They still do it in healthcare. I can't imagine the absolute fiasco that would happen if a doc does a knee replacement on the left knee when they were supposed to do it on the right and turns out he pops positive.

I also worked in construction for a short time and had a machine operator damage an existing building. He went straight to be tested and I don't even remember if I saw him onsite again