My main issue with it is that often it cannot find the street/city I'm searching. That's why I don't use it all the time.
Are there any good google maps alternatives?
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Contributing to OSM is the best way to give yourself and others freedom from Google. It's very easy to do through StreetComplete, which is a gamified system that updates the map as people complete quests.
My issue with OSM is that i need an account which may potentially contribute to leak my identity
I was also worried about this, but if you make your changes wide reaching enough and don't use the same username as everywhere else (honestly, this is a good practice for all accounts), it shouldn't leak your identity.
Not really fixing the account issue, but can you use an email alias? I use one for my account.
It can't find the entire city on the map, even though it's on the map? I've never experienced that, I'm not sure how that's possible.
This is a real problem. Search on any OSM app is not the same as GMaps or the other mainstream map services. Contributing to OSM through EveryDoor or StreetComplete in your area will definitely help improve this but as a stop gap I use an app called GMaps WV. It loads Google Maps in an isolated web browser, which allows you to use their search and once you find what your looking for it has a share option that copies the coordinates to the clipboard which you paste into CoMaps and let it take over.
Have you downloaded the map for that area?
Cartes is probably the closest thing that I've found (besides Apple Maps or Bing Maps).
It's a French project, I guess it's translated in French before English. Non-English speakers are used to seeing snippets of English in translated UIs but I understand the other way around is unusual
Clearly the French have their priorities straight.

Croissants clearly need to be before any meager restaurant or coffee shop.
Omg why haven't I heard of that one before ???
Looks great but the lack of mobile app is a deal breaker :/
Thanks it sounds really good
Is this web based only or is there a android app, can't seem to find it on any app store.
Web based. You can "install" the Web App, but it doesn't seem to allow for any additional features that I can tell.
For offline modes, CoMaps and OsmAnd+ are my go to.
If it meets your requirements, try Vela Maps which is a degoogled Google Maps.
" A degoogled maps & navigation client for Android - what NewPipe is to YouTube, for Google Maps. Open vector tiles for the basemap, the device itself scraping Google's public web endpoints (per-user, no backend) for the things only Google does well: POI quality, routing, and traffic-aware ETAs. Built to run on GrapheneOS and other no-GMS ROMs. "
I think it's a fairly new product and seems to be rapidly improving performance with quite a few updates lately. (I have discovered some glitches but they seem to be addressed as soon as the app updates the next time.)
It might meet your requirements because it's not Google Maps.
It might not meet your requirements if you want a truly no-Google product, because it uses a few Google things anonymously in the back end...
Super cool. had no idea that existed
Openstreetmaps
Android app OSMAnd+
No android auto support though..
You can run android auto through graphene.
@duckshuffgoose
Android Auto work with the FDroid Version
Say what? Is that new? Maybe I used obtanium for it initially. thanks!
Funfact: it is one map - the data is universal. That's why it's called OpenStreetMap
Osmand is free on fdroid. Comaps is probably a better google maps substitute for most people though. Osmand has deep features but is comparitively a bit clunky.
https://itsfoss.com/news/organic-maps-fork-comaps/
Despite being advertised as a community-driven project, key decisions, including financial management, partnerships (with Kayak, for instance), and the inclusion of proprietary components in the code were made by a small group of shareholders, often without input from the broader contributor community. These shareholders have reportedly used the project’s donation funds for personal expenses, like holiday trips, raising serious concerns about financial transparency.
Which is why they forked CoMaps.
If you listen to the CoMaps developers’ perspective, they’re naturally going to talk up their competitors at Organic Maps. In any case, Organic Maps another open-source map, free and open to everyone. And new features are added much faster than in CoMaps (public transportation, hiking style, alternative routing). Try both options and choose the one that works best for you.
Organic Maps is also technically committing tax fraud by paying the owners dividends but no salaries. They're making quite a bit off the donations too. All of which was pocketed.
Co-maps generally works good for me, bht the bjg disadvantage is it has no traffic data (I think this might be inherently incompatable with standard foss, would love to be wrong though). So my go to when driving is HERE wego, which works well and is up to date (and not evil as far as I know)
CoMaps is good if you already know where to go.
I use it in conjunction with GMapsWV: look for a place, copy the coordinates with the share button and paste them into CoMaps.
Never missed an address and I use it quite a bit.
I contribute regularly with Street Complete
It's also better if you know how to get there, its directions are typically very poorly optimized (although you'll get there eventually).
Quoting their github page
- Clears private data on close
- Blocks access to Google trackers and other third-party resources
- Restricts all network requests to HTTPS
- Allows toggling of location permission
Thanks for the recommendation for GMapsWV. I didn't know about that, and have always felt very uncomfortable when using Google Maps to find restaurants and such that aren't always listed in OSM.
I had this talk with a friend the other week, but I can't recommend enough that if something OSM based isn't showing correctly, you can always add it in once you find the right answer. For example, if it doesn't have hours listed for a business, I'll go to their website and copy that data in, or if the address doesn't show up right, I'll edit the building with the correct address. I found the other day that the address for my apartment was listed over a garage up the street instead of my building and I just removed the one and added in the other.
I completely fixed my neighborhood of 800 homes. took me a week. I drew in the house shapes and the heights, turned the row home blocks into individual linked blocks with exact addresses and accurate sidewalks.
If OSM isn't good enough, make it better.
truth is OSM has proven to be more accurate in areas I frequent vs Gmaps. We've got into multiple "situations" because of Gmaps
like leading us the wrong way. Or completely ignoring existence oh our house.
Sure, let me just fly my drone over everywhere in the world...
I was using organic until CoMaps forked it, now CoMaps is the way. It's open street map so you can sign up and fix whatever you want, pull down the next version and it's there.
I do miss street view, voiced street names, and really miss cowdsourced hazards from waze but it's worth it if you're not on a long high speed trip.
edit: turns out you can turn on tts street names
I use both, but I use OSMAnd~ for mobile mapping, and CoMaps for navigation.
From my own recent tests, Maps.me is good for finding businesses, citymapper is good for public transport, and TomTom is good for driving directions with live trafic.
OSMAnd is amazing, customisable, can do everything (I use it for hiking, saving locations, and topography) but for things you'd use google for (finding businesses, driving, street view) google does those things much better.
And PSA for those who don't know, Waze is owned by google and maintained in Israel.
Gross thank you for that PSA, will swap.
Waze is my Achilles heel when it comes to degoogling. I use OSMAnd~ frequently and love it (even considering getting a lifetime license), but with the multitude of options it has it's missing a dedicated way for community driven police reports when driving. Absolutely essential feature in daily commutes for me. And not to mention I have to often find a location in GVmaps and manually input it to OSMAnd to be able to navigate to it since it's missing so many.
CoMaps, which uses OpenStreetMap. StreetComplete gamifies adding data to OpenStreetMap.
Sometimes Magic Earth.
The only time i use google is when i want street view.
deflock Half joking
I wish there was a way to export a pre-calculated route from deflock to CoMaps though that would just be the bees knees
No clue
Hmm. That doesn't seem to address what I'm after as it looks like just another app that doesn't let you export a route. Also I noticed that its routing algo is worse/doesn't allow fine grain control of the dodge distance. Also also absolutely proprietary. Ty tho!
Doing God's work. I am sharing the fuck out of this.
I love Organic Maps. Works on Android and IOS. Fully offline (maps predownload at first run) and all route calculation is locally computed so it's especially good for hiking or where signal is poor.
Only thing I miss is live traffic updates but for me that's an acceptable tradeoff for the ultimate offline privacy as far as a digital map can do it.
The voice it uses is whatever's built into the phone's accessibility features so on some devices it sounds a bit janky, but on Android at least you can install different ones if that bothers you.
Check out CoMaps! Essentially the same.
good or better then google maps, no, they're are a trillion $ company with major resoirces
I use OSMAnd+ its a little bit shit but ot gets me by. I also edit a little bit of Open Street maps in my area to help
It's primarily an issue of getting the necessary tools to be able to drop the bastich in the first place, and then figuring out when to do it, because now is absolutely not the time in the southeastern United States.
I've just started using MapQuest like many others since the lake ontario thing. It's been pretty good and I find it a lot more functional and accurate than the Foss options at the moment. It's not perfect but it's also not Google or apple.
I found when I typed in locations by name or even lots of street addresses to OSM it would often give wrong results or just say cannot be found. Haven't run into that at all with MapQuest, every address I type in has come up on the map. Type in company/business names and they pop up. Had trouble with that when I tried osm
OrganicMaps: https://f-droid.org/packages/app.organicmaps
I heard of issues* with OrganicMaps not being fully open source**, I switched to CoMaps instead. Still use OSM and seems to function pretty well
Edited spelling bc I was typing too fast and didn't proof read.
Sorry, typed too fast and didn't proof read...
More context https://itsfoss.com/news/organic-maps-fork-comaps/
Great Open-source map. Fast and effective. I use it all the time
Here Wego is proprietary and corporate, BUT it's non-USA and it has live traffic
edit: to clarify, non-USA ownership, but usa roads and traffic data are available
I had been using them but just checked and they went MAGA recently. Looked up their history and... ofc they're owned by BMW/Mercedes. So No more Here WeGo.
MapQuest is a perfectly reasonable commercial alternative that has all of the things you'd expect - dynamically-loaded map tiles, turn-by-turn nav, etc. If you want to look at options that use OpenStreetMap data, I've found CoMaps to be very good. The biggest drawback is that you have to download maps (~100-300MB per geo area) all at once, which can be a problem if you're on the road and don't have great signal strength.
Holy shit im impressed by this project! Vela is degoogled gmaps, like newpipe is an alternative for youtube. Mighty impressive what they have done so far, seems like a new project, keeping my eyes on this one!
Edit: lts ofc entirely AI generated...
If you use live traffic re-checks, it pings google every few minutes, providing your updated position. And when it's off, I think it still sends Google your initial position and route? But I'm not sure that can be turned off completely.
Yeah, it pings Google for almost all of it. But for a quick "where is X store" and traffic if, for example, going to the airport and my wife made us late (it never happens, it's just an example 😏), I'm not too concerned. I have been using OSMAnd+ exclusively for a few years now, but this is something very useful for my needs.
I'm guessing that, since I'm on GrapheneOS, there's not much, if anything at all, that they can tie to my person.

sorry man, this is my best guess. herewego has not much local business data and rating. comaps is only good for biking basicly. osmand has no traffic data.
my biggest problem with vela, that tge gmap links my gf sends, wont open on lineage.maybe it does on graphene, cause the project priority is that platform.
I use that too! Kinda clunky but does the job. I prefer CoMaps - it seems smoother - but it doesn't have all the actual addresses for the little towns I pass through.
They recetnly went MAGA maps. Sad to say. But seeing that they're ownd by BMW I guess it makes sense. =(
i know =(
I wonder how magic earth is doing the traffic information. Are they extracting it from Google maps?
I use CoMaps for walking and for searching around, but Magic Earth's been better for driving. It's genuinely pretty good, but it sucks that it's closed source and proprietary, I'll gladly replace it with CoMaps or another FOSS alternative if one catches up.
for basic things openstreetmaps based ones (comaps organic maps), for anything else no.
Is there a difference between OsmAnd+ and OsmAnd~ ?
I can never find anything on OSM based maps by themselves. My current method is to search via the Apple Maps web beta then use geoshare to copy the location to CoMaps for turn-by-turn. I have magic earth installed as a fallback if I have problems with comaps.
Oh wow that's an excellent app, now I don't have to suffer when friends send me google links
No. Most aren't able to do basic navigation to addresses of people. I'd like it to be different but for me CoMaps and the other ones aren't useful (yet)
I've generally been able to with Organic Maps. If the street address won't get me exactly to them, I'll add a mark right at their place on the map and route to that. That almost always works.
Roads work but I do prefer entering a destination instead of going to a city and then having to figure out where the street and streetnumber are.
Especially since I only use navigation if i don't already know where something is.
Which map is good depends largely on your needs, I think. Do you need it for car navigation, walking, biking, or public transport? OSM maps are better for pedestrians and cyclists in many regions, while Google Maps is more designed for car drivers.
I use CoMaps and Vela Maps.
I use CoMaps when navigating: https://www.comaps.app/
I also recommend Obtainium for installing it: https://obtainium.imranr.dev/
I've tried several over the past few weeks. There aren't any that can even do the basic job of mapping from point a to b consistently for some reason. Mapquest came the closest, but 3 issues.
I like the interface, it looks nice, but it's missing key map things, that should be the basics over things like a unicorn icon, which is cute, but useless.
I'm not sure how it stacks up with the rest, but for web: https://mapcarta.com/
"Explore the globe with Mapcarta—the open map that unites the world through the collective knowledge of OpenStreetMap, Wikipedia, Wikidata, and other open projects."
No but I use comaps anyways
I tried most of the ones mentioned here but they rarely include any ratings or additional features. For me what comes close enough to a Google/apple maps alternative is mapy.com . Its not Foss and some features are behind a subscription. But its European and 19€ a year is OK with me. Some features that might be interesting:
I love Osmand+. it's so much more than just google maps. it also has public transport, but it's in beta state right now.
I pay to use Sygic for turn by turn driving directions and it's been worth it. Can even pay through their website and bypass paying through Google Play, which I feel is a big blind spot for a lot of these services.
Also it's a euro based company, so data sovereignty is possible.
I use Comaps on my phone and OpenStreetMap data on a Garmin Nuvi I got from the thrift store for $8.
They get outdated when names change, detours are required, anywhere they don't exist, lack public transit, don't have live traffic info, and don't even show you where you are.
Who cares? Most of that list is negligible and the rest is a specific real-time occurrence that may not even be updated in a timely manner on the tech side. The underlying geography and major routes don't change. Grab an old map and hit the road, you'll find it's mostly correct but you do need illumination if operating it in the dark.
I'm sure this is safe to do while driving
About as safe as staring at a fake road on your phone screen ? You’re not supposed to look at the directions for too long on your phone just cuz you can put it at eye level now, that’s still distracted driving. You remember what turns you take and if you can’t do that you either pull over and look or you have someone that can navigate
I actually think Apple Maps has gotten pretty good. I think they are better than Google at directions, Google is better at discovery.
I know that’s probably not the alternative you’re looking for, but it’s something.
I just wanted to add here that Here WeGo is owned by BMW/Mercedes (according to wikipedia) and they just changed GUlf of Mexico to the trash. So ... no Here WeGo.
@InterestingUsername +1 for #CoMaps and #OSM . Also started using #NuNav as a replacement for Magic Earth for Car Navigation. It also uses Maps from #OpenStreetMap .
Does it work with android car? Nunav I mean.
@mfuhrmann yes, nunav works with android auto
@mfuhrmann @InterestingUsername Sorry, im on #GrapheneOS and I don't use any Google Services. So i could'nt test that.
It is a pity, that there is no open interface between cars and #AOSP based Smartphones...
The car and streetmeasure are the only reason i have Google added Ingo my graphene... 🙈
A good car phone stand/Mount could be an option... For the car problem at least
It does btw. I've just tested it.
Seems to do a good job. Some hiccups here and there. But minimal.
Do we know how much data they collect, track or sell 🙈?
@kallekn @InterestingUsername Yes, unfortunately... Maybe they resist enshittification?
I really appreciate mapy.com. They are european (Czech) company. Outside of Czech Republic they base on OSM and have very pretty and useful rendering of "outdoor" map, especially with hiking trails and point of interests almost like on paper map.
They also have their own system of posting images and commenting and have some noticable community, yet much smaller than on google. You can also contribute to map content, yet I am not sure if they contribute upstream to OSM.
The killer-paid-feature for me is vector offline maps in the "outdoor" flavor, which saved me many times on trips with poor internet coverage.
I hope they survive long before someone buys and enshittifies them.
It's OSM, if you're talking about the built in map card.
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I’ve been using CoMaps for a while as my only map app and I’m very happy with it.
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