I don't understand the dbus.

I've tried.

But I just don't get it.

"What's a file anyways, more than a bunch of bytes in a specific order?"

guy over here trying to start a war

yiff*

Now I just wanna know whether GNU is Guh-noo or Juh-noo or Gee-en-yoo

The linux is silent

Gah Nuu plus Line-ucks

except it's derived from Linus's name, which in finnish is pronounced as Lee-noos, so technically it should be Lee-noox.

In reality tho? Nobody cares

Loon - icks

That's the thing, his pronounciation there is eerlie similar to what I'm used to spanish (where it is pronounced just as it is spelt) that my ol brain kind of does a short-circuit and can't assimilate the fact that it's just kind of the same thing in both languages and if it's in the middle of a sentence I have to go back to speaking my crappy non-native english

It is pronounced like that but they don't rhyme at all

So many factors at play.

The number of packages installed, the use of externally unsupported repos, the distro you use, reliability of their packaging system, how much you deviated from the baseline customization, and probably more.

Keeping track of everything off what and how much you changed may prove difficult. But it helps taking notes of how you solved the more complicated issues.

With time you learn to live with the inevitability of something breaking. You update less often, and only when you really have to. Repairing stuff becomes less overwhelmeming with time.

If you are happy with the distributions you use, there is no need to try Gentoo.

In my opinion, as a Gentoo user for the last 20 years, Gentoo is the most flexible distribution there is. Gentoo can be as stable as Debian or it can be as (or even more) cutting edge as Arch. Or it can be anything in between and you can even mix and match as you like.

The cost you pay for that flexibility is the compile time it takes to build the packages. And Gentoo is even providing you with prebuilt binaries for a very large amount of packages.

Honestly as a not-used-Gentoo person recklessly throwing around my opinion on the internet...

It sounds like either it can be "Really optimized and crazy performant if you know what you're doing."

Or "It's a fun hobby because you think operating systems are fun."

Personally it seems cool except I think I'd start to burn out fast if every package install means having to read compilation instructions and edit configs.

Maybe because my experience compiling stuff is always like "What's your problem this time?! Okay where do I find that package version?!"

EDIT: I love all the educational, reassuring, and enthusiastic responses. This is what makes Linux cool. :D I should give Gentoo a try...

Not sure if you’d gain all that much with your level of experience. LFS might be a better starting point. However, after suggesting doing a stage 2 to a few that were eager to learn more (even though they’d been using it for a very long time), it was generally a positive experience. If you go through the guide I’m sure you’d be able to tell quickly whether it would be useful.

You should be at the point where you just want simply and easy. Because you have reached the point "I'm tired Boss. So tired." When it comes to an OS.

So maybe Mint or a Fedora Atomic spin.

I have somewhat similar experience (with far more recent kernels tho, 2.6 and newer) gentoo has some gentoo specific things, it won't really teach you a lot when you have a certain level of knowledge, and how most parts interface with each other. It's a fun exercise if you have time.

Hahah. At least you learned some things. Took me a few goes after thinking I was slick having stage 2 down pat. Then tried some BSDs and was humbled again.

honestly just installing Gentoo is a great way to learn various aspects of linux. It's a process, a lengthy one, but if you manage to install it successfully you can pretty much install any distro or BSD with absolute ease and not even think about it.

Still buffering, give it a minute. It's gotta squeeze through the tubes.

Good for you, stay where you are

So are you immediately trying to pull the conversation away from ethics, because you know Microsoft has no leg to stand on in this regard? Who cares that the founder of MS is heavily implicated in the Epstein files if you (supposedly) save a little time, right? Or I guess it doesn't matter that that same company is actively providing surveillance tech support to Israel in their genocide of Palestine? That they censor their employees emails from speaking about the very atrocity they're complicit in? Or that the same surveillance infrastructure is being used at home in service of an authoritarian regime?

That's not even getting into all the gritty details of all the little annoyances and rights abuses - which have been accurately predicted by free software advocates for decades now - that inevitably stem from proprietary tech companies like Microslop, which collectively we are now calling enshittification.

But even ignoring the massive pile of shits about Microsoft and Windows to address your argument in a vacuum, does Windows respect your time? Really? Does Windows respect your time when it forces you to go online and sign up for an online account, and login to that account to enable their at-home spyware, just to install their operating system? Does it respect your time when you have to go through a potentially hours-long painful update procedure on a fresh install? How about when the OS runs awfully sluggish even on great hardware? Does MS respect your time when you have to go out of your way to research and install multiple tools and scripts to try in vain to gut all the spyware, AI garbage, adware, and bloat, and run 3rd party system tools to suppress other elements of the OS just to make the damn thing halfway usable and have the illusion of being something that can be trusted?

Even on your own little point, where is this superior documentation you speak of? Because every time I've run into a problem on Windows, their support pages have only ever given me the most generic troubleshooting answers that have been completely unhelpful. Please show me documentation that comes even close to the thoroughness and quality of the Arch Wiki.

Assuming any of what you said is even in good faith, and that you're not just a shill or simp, here's what you need to consider: Windows is something that most people have been using all their lives. When you've been operating something that long, it feels easier. You're more able to ignore the pain points because habits are already deeply settled, and you know your way around. That's the biggest reason Linux feels like such a hassle at first - learning new things takes time, and is always frustrating. I know this experientially because at one time I struggled to use Linux systems too, but now I have the reverse problem. I've been using Linux long enough, and Windows has devolved and changed enough, that on the rare occasion I try to use that piece of shitware, it is the most frustrating thing in the world. Windows 7 was something I was used to. But Windows 10 and 11 are new and unfamiliar to me, and consequently feel damn near unusably bad.

Does Linux have things it needs to improve? Of course, but at least it's something worth improving. You're trying to compare imperfect, yet a remarkable collection of software, to something that is literally just malware at this point. If anything, virus scanners should be adding Windows to their definitions lists.

I think M$ has had a lot to do with it recently, although lemmy certainly offers a helping hand

because Lemmy creates those guys

I confess, I'm perhaps complicit in that.

Also I believe the whole "violates unix principles" thing. the one in question:

Make each program do one thing well. To do a new job, build afresh rather than complicate old programs by adding new "features".

systemd just acquires more and more features. But then that was written in the 1970s. Things have changed, we have so much more going on in our computers, it's easier to delegate a bunch of housekeeping work to a single, more centralized tool.

Using OpenRC or another init system instead means you get more fine grained control, but it also means you need to choose a bunch of utilities, whereas systemd just has a lot of them out of the box. And at the end of the day that's just for power users to worry about, I suspect many end users will never be able to tell the difference between an OpenRC distro and a systemd distro given that both configure everything they need to use it.

Most of the hate came from people that don't even read logs nor know what they talk about. You can read journal with strings from binutils, you can forward to syslog server and store it in whatever format you prefer, you can do a lot of things with journal tbh. (Journalctl is horribly slow, that's true)

it's still present on a few distros but 10-15 years ago, some existing ip and new /iproute2 came along made better the interaction.

It was a shitty, yes. I probably would have said "it's like asking how food works" if I had been eating when I wrote it

Nah, the installer is much more tame than it used to be. I just like to poke fun at ye olden times.

I did make a huge recent mistake by using an NVIDIA GPU on Debian. Every time it updated was playing Russian roulette with "is this gonna break my system and send me into six hours of troubleshooting?" Til I finally said fuck it and swapped it with my brother for his AMD card. And I haven't had a single issue since.

I like Debian, but NVIDIA drivers just refused to play nice for any extended period of time.

Idk, I've tried throwing it on some machines and every time it's just not worked

The people who reference Dunning-Kruger often vastly overestimate how competent they are at statistics.

It tends to explain why entry level programmers act the way they do. Like when I graduated I was definitely on the peak of mount stupid but as I learned more I realized how little I knew. I did not externalize this as I was just trying to make iy through my days, however I have seen some entry levels absolutely fuck things up because they thought they were geniuses. It was exactly like that bell curve where idiots and experts do the same simple thing but mediocre people do the most complicated thing possible with 5 layers of abstraction.

If it can't do everything your main machine needs to do, it can't possibly become your main machine.

My PC just programmed all the units in my mesh in around 5 minutes. It would have likely taken longer trying to fix the USB connector. I should figure out how to fix this edge case so I don't have to take my old PC out again.

udev? WATCH -N 1 CHMOD A+RWX /DEV

What they are talking about is an open source piece of software (Meshtastic) that's using a well-known (if specific to Chromium) standard, WebUSB. It's a genuine pain point, and stuff like this needs to work out of the box, no manually written udev rules required.

Whoa man. You ok?

gay furry nerd

You rang?

Ding ding ding! We have a winner, folks! 😁

Why would a file not be deletable while in use?

Apple even went so far as to develop their own processors to try and stop people extending the life of their products using Linux.

Shared drives are a massive pain in Linux actually. If you have three SSDs installed in your PC where one contains Windows, another contains Linux, and one is a shared drive for large files, Linux simply doesn't auto-mount that shared SSD. You have to work around that and even when you configure it to auto-mount, small things like lock screen wallpapers would reset to default on every startup if the image was placed in a different drive.

Linux does not play nice either. Windows, MacOS and Linux have different file systems. And you can do whatever you want on a Windows computer, MacOS is a bit restricted/limited but the sheer power, nicer interface and amazing capabilities make up for that. To be honest, Linux is useless in my workflow because Linux simply doesn't support my use case.

However, I love how lightweight Linux is, especially the Fedora KDE Plasma. I use it just for fun and to stay in touch with Linux because I had a spare SSD lying around and extra ports in my PC baseboard. From a personal usage and work usage standpoint, Linux is of no use for my use case.

Damn it. No

Touche

Great comment, took me back to computer architecture. Not sure I can answer. Just a postulate, is it because the electric forces are a billion times stronger than gravity so they both neutralize quicker, but also can more reliably and precisely cause electricity to flow because when you do disturb that balance, it's much stronger than the interactions with massive systems we're used to visualizing?

That, as well as how computers will run the same computation multiple times and select output bits by majority rules to correct errors from say cosmic rays causing some bits to flip part way through one (but not all) of the fault tolerant circuits?