Amazon: "We encourage expediency in delivery, so please don't stop to use the restroom. Just piss in this bottle."

Also Amazon: "We need you to arrive promptly, but also we expect you to work late. The needs of the customers come first!"

Finally, Amazon: "You're tired, you're hungry, you desperately need to piss, but we've decided the biggest risk to your driving safety is your dramatic rendition of Shake It Off by Taylor Swift, as you try to get your mind off the horror of working this dead end job."

Human conform to our half thought, low bid robot Overseer.

Amazon's solution: install another microphone in the car so they can hear that you're singing instead of having a conversation!!

I love that the solution to their shit detection is to make sure that there is nothing to detect.

Shit, how can we turn this into an interesting dystopia?

How does that freedom taste?

We should keep mouth movement to a minimum so...chew the rich with your mouth closed.

Starved even

Set the goddamn table!

After years of this sentiment being passed around online it's clear that shit isn't going to happen until we have a military draft/Vietnam War level incident. The pot is boiling too slowly for most of us to jump out. And even if we do try to organize a strike or civil disobedience, the government has gotten good at assasinating leaders that threaten the system.

Well if you're ordering food... I'd like to order one large Bezos with extra Musk, please. Wait, make that Buffet... no no, Gates. With Branson on half.

I'm sorry, that's too much mouth movement. You are now on probation.

You dont need to wait for everyone else to say grace, you can start now.

Just make sure you're either not driving or somehow learn how to eat without using your mouth.

Never. Amazon institutes slavery-like conditions, while people keep taking those jobs voluntarily. The same people then buy into BS propaganda about unions bad, so they don't even have a union in that voluntarily concentration camp.

Some techies who work from home, or walk dogs for living, or take money from parents, or whatever, then constantly circle-jerk on lemmy/reddit/(formerly)twitter about how they'll eat the rich. While virtually doing absolutely utterly nothing.

So the answer is never.

[Btw, posting trump bad memes 5 times a day on a platform that probably votes dems 99.9% isn't doing anything]

You wanna know what it means to be doing something? Read Lenin's biography.

If you're not in exile like Snowden, not dead like Navalny, not rotting in prison like Assange, you're not doing enough.

Only when everyone will be ready to go to jail for their vision of the better tomorrow will they not be able to jail you individually and instead will have to change the system.

So, start a local riot group, prepare for two years, kidnap Bezos, sign him up as an Amazon contractor and with a gun pointed to his head make him work the job for 5 weeks.

In the meantime, I will be living in a functioning developed country with a democratically elected government that has long time ago instituted a minimum wage high enough for you to comfortably live off it. I don't need to eat the rich. I just wish less people would vote far right.

You should almost never quit if you expect to be fired. Make them fire you and file for unemployment, then challenge them when they try to get out of it. The government tends to err on the side of the employee in my experience when things are unclear, and "We have a knowledge gap that prevents us from confirming whether or not you were actually violating policy, but you're fired anyway" is the kind of thing you can feel pretty confident challenging.

we’re adult fucking humans and we expect to be fucking well treated like it

Sounds expensive. You're going to hurt company profits with that attitude. Five Demerits on your Social Credit Score.

I've got a camera in my work truck. I hate it but I can't make this much money anywhere else. I was actually sent for a drug and alcohol test a few weeks ago because I kept dozing off while I was sitting in the truck on break. I passed because I was nice and charming to the young girl giving the test. The only thing I popped on was weed anyway.

The reason I was nodding off in the truck is I was fucking exhausted from making them a shitload of money.

On a side note, If you drove holding the steering wheel with your middle fingers out, what kind of punishment would that be?

Believe it or not, straight to jail.

This is on a different similar note. I work for a big hardware store that isnt home depot. My job trusts me enough to take home keys to the store, and drive a 10 thousand pound forklift whenever I want, but I have to use the worst safety box opener I've ever seen. Makes me so mad because it just doesn't work half the time.

Phillip K Dick would be out of a job in 2024.

20 years left to go...

I'd have walked out long before this point

If the driver put up with everything until this point, then they probabbly didn't have a lot of better options. It's easy enough to say stuff like this, but not everyone has the freedom to quit when unemployment means your family goes back to the foodbank or moves into the car.

No, the solution is to throw all that machine vision micro-managing shit away. It belongs in the factory sorting goods.

Exactly! In fact ENCOURAGE singing to get a better data set for fixing the software!

Uber's (and all the rest of the Silicon Valley illegal taxi racket) entire business model is "exploit humans until we invent Johnnycabs"

I think the only thing keeping them from going full auto right now is that humans keep accepting shittier and shittier conditions in order to keep the robopocalypse at bay.

I don't really like automated cars because I don't think they're safe, either for the passengers (who have at least accepted what they're getting into) or pedestrians (who have not), but I don't think that's ever slowed the "march of progress" before now.

Robot originally meaning "slave (free) labor"

They really do want them, humans are just still better at generalized tasks and finding new work for themselves but gosh darn are they gonna make us compete with to get as close to the first use of the word Robot and be unemotional perfect workers with no concept of self preservation until it can't be taken anymore.

Until we can make crossing those lines painful for those companies, they'll keep doing it. Unfortunately, I think convenience is always going to beat morality if you leave it to "voting with your dollar", we need actual regulations from our governments to combat this shit.

It's just that most people just genuinely don't care enough about what's happening to other people enough to do anything beyond just saying that Amazon is bad. On top of that as Amazon starts to drive other stores out of business it does start to slowly become the only choice for getting certain things. So with those two combined expecting personal consumer choice to really make a difference is not realistic, this is the kind of thing that needs the government to intervene on to force Amazon to unionize and to potentially break it up like is being discussed with Google.

Yeah, we should totally stop eating to show the grocery stores they can’t control their employees. /s

I bet you could trick it with a cardboard cut out

claim they aren't signing along to the radio

I mean...if they're signing along to the radio, I'd say that's really dangerous and needs to be cracked down on! Can't sign sign language with both hands on the wheel after all!

Singing should be absolutely fine though.

It's not dominant here in Estonia either, but neither is there a clear alternative. But maybe that's a good thing, you can still order your things from different online retailers rather than relying on just one

Allegro really is much better for many things. I find myself using it much more than Amazon nowadays.

It depends on what it says when they run the video through a lip reading program.

We’re not far from incurring debts from suicides that our families will have to repay.

They spent all that money union busting so they can do shit like this.

Not even blinking, this guy is locked in

Just tape a nice picture of you really focusing on the road to the camera.

Now you can even drive around hookers or be a getaway driver during a bank heist.

That's one reason I'm glad to work in a local public service position. They will never have the money to implement such a system, let alone be able to pay anyone to maintain or monitor it. They can barely keep the wifi working.

But we’re too busy stopping literal fascism and nearly every GOP-packed court will uphold it as perfectly fine and normal for everyone making less than 150k a year.

"Bread and circuses"

Don’t see this happening everywhere. This is being done to save themselves from liability in an accident. They don’t have cameras watching their warehouse workers although they have rules like no earphones are allowed which are typical for safety in a warehouse or plant. I worked as an Amazon driver for a month. Everything they do or say is to cover their ass from getting sued.

Maybe we should be trying to replace managers and execs with robots.

No. Fight these assholes passing these policies just so they can save a few pennies on insurance.

Wear a mask printed with your own face.

its much more efficient than pizza delivery though so not really a good comparison.

They are the size of a world power, and they have their hands in everything. They're not falling any time soon.

Jeff Bezos hasn't been CEO of Amazon for a few years. Now it's that bland twat Andy Jassy, who has all of the fascism but none of the intelligence of his predecessor.

Amen. If we could get a community against this going, it would be a first step. Would you like to help with such a thing. Lets be the change we want to see.

Definitely not normal in the US, either.

Exactly what I was thinking. I wish I was an extrovert. I enjoy the occasional phone call but mostly I just wish I could hang up, even with friends.

My main USPS worker talks on the phone at all times. I see her every weekend and she is NEVER not excitedly or angrily talking on her earbuds. I bet it makes work a lot better for her but holy shit who can just talk on the phone literally all day long.

Aren't the trucks independently owned, and contracted to Amazon?

Everything is legal in the usa for corporations and the rich. Just a little itsy fine to pay and then you never hear about it again, even though they don't stop

Did you really just blame the drivers for this?

A company having a policy because "the insurance company makes us" is no less evil than the insurance company.

That's not how insurance works. They monitor average speed, acceleration, and braking, if anything. There's no correlation between mouth movement and accidents. What if someone is chewing gum? What about adjusting dentures? What about drinking coffee while parked?

Show me an actuarial table that includes "mouth movement" as a variable or admit this is just a middle manager trying something stupid.