but resources are an issue with no solution on the horizon.

We've got tons of resources, and the means the produce more. The problem is that's not going to make some people lots and lots of money, so they don't do it.

Scarcity is not a problem of "can't" right now, it's a problem of "won't".

We have a lot of problems to solve but AI is part of the solution, except that it's being done wrong. And expensively.

There's also a conversation to be had about which jobs shouldn't be automated, either because current technology isn't suitable, or because it might never be suitable. And I'd say that pretty much everything that we are calling 'AI' right now falls under that - I'll say that robots are part of the solution, but I don't think 'AI' is.

It 100% is the new 4o image generation which appears very good in producing crisp panel comics with readable text exactly like this.

The most scary thing is all the people responding with denial, oblivious to this not being human made.

It might be. The doctor ear has different colors. And each robot has a slight difference in shading and shape. An human artist will just simply copy paste all the robots.

Its just business.

there a whole Black Mirror episode dedicated to the idea of an AI personal assistant. We may not be that far yet, but we're more than halfway there. We've come a long way from Clippy.

*teleports behind you*

Nothing personnel, kid

Personnel for what?

And it made a glaring mistake? Who will verify these errors to ensure they don't occur? 🤔

You're one of several people saying this is from AI. I'm more familiar with the AI giveaways in text or fake photos, but not so much with comics. What makes this comic look so obviously AI generated to you?

No it isn't.

Replaced by AI: traductor

Also modified the art style to make it less violent and subversive, so cross "artist" of that list as well.

With the original, we clearly understand that it should all have been filled with humans, but there was a progression in the center line where AI (killed and) replaced professions that were always thought to be irreplaceable by AI.

But its not a gradual change. AI posts used to be rare, in 2 days i found more AI posts outside of a community made for AI generated pictures than in the 2 years i have used lemmy

Source? I'm not sure I'd want to be part of a community full of stink apes.

When on c/comicstrips, i dont think its unreasonable for people to expect the art to be from real people

That’s why we used to tax the morbidly rich at a 90% rate in the 50s

I think folks are genuinely unable to tell. The poster, who's also a mod, did not know it was AI generated

There's a small, relatively low value market of commissioned online art that has been and will continue to be impacted. People who may have paid $50-60 for a (furry) OC will start going to AI image gens as the process becomes more refined and allows them to add detail to the end result without much effort.

I just watched a movie (Geostorm) where these obviously super wealthy people were in a skyscraper and the movies like "oh no, they might die if no one stops this!"

Good? I'm more concerned about all the people below them getting swept away. These rich fucks should finally feel fear for fucking once.

Zero argument here

Or provide UBI to share the wealth generated by increased societal productivity

When you multiply the productivity of every practitioner of a trade, they can lower their prices.

I'm sorry, but that's some hilarious Ayn Rand thinking. Prices didn't go down in grocery stores that added self-checkout, they just made more profit. Companies these days are perfectly comfortable keeping the price the same (or raising them) and just cutting their overhead.

Don't get me wrong, if there are things they could get more profit by selling more, then they likely would. But I think those items are few and far between. Everything else they just make more money with less workers.

AI can absolutely produce copyrighted content if it's prompted to. Name drop an artist in Midjourney and you will be able to prompt their style - see this list of artists and prompted images. So you can just tweak the settings a bit to heavily weight their name, generally describe the composition of the work you're looking to approximate, and you can absolutely produce something close to their original works.

The image is wrong because the original artwork is not stolen. It is part of a dataset by LAION (or another similar dataset, basically a text-image pair where the image is linked at its original source). To train the imagegen, its company had to download a temporary copy, which is exempt from infringement by copyright law. There is no original artwork somewhere in a database accessible by Midjourney, just the numerical relationship generated by the image-text pair it learned from.

On the other hand, AI can obviously produce content in violation of copyright - like here. But that's specifically being prompted by the user. You can see other examples of this with Grok generating Mickey Mouse and Simpsons characters. As of right now, copyright violations are the legal responsibility of the users generating the content - not the AI itself.

You are speaking bollocks, there are already many lawsuits by artists against the so called Ai engines, there are boundaries on how much you can copy from a specific artwork, logo, design or whatever, for example if you take the coca cola logo and slightly change it even if it doesn't say coca cola you will still face the laws of copyright infringement, nobody denies the existence of thieves, so that's why people do whatever they can to protect their work

I was extremely skeptical so I looked into it and it absolutely does not work. There was also a guy on YouTube who basically tried to make a Minecraft clone with Vibe coding and it just fell apart almost instantly.

All I was trying to do was get it to set up a basic scene in UE5 with some lighting effects and import a model of the building from the assets library. Nope, did not work. I didn't even bother trying to implement game logic as it was so clearly a waste of time. The amount of time I spent trying to get it to do basic stuff, stuff that you would be able to do in UE5 after half an hour of training, I could have made significant progress on a gray box by then.

You think it's OK because it spits out grammatically correct language on your end, but if you spoke both languages you'd get how it fails. Look at translations of Korean comics if you'd like to see how badly mechanical translation is when it's a connected story across multiple chapters, I was reading a comic where a character said he liked the elegant and sophisticated sound of calling a lightning strike skill ''bolt'' instead of whatever he was calling it ''lighting strike'' I think. It took me a while to realize what or whoever translated it didn't know how to look at the context of the translation and find a English word that English speakers would find at least old fashioned if not archaic and of course longer or more poetic sounding. It's like the whole thing when JRPGs can't figure out if they should localize names by just spelling out the phonetic sounds in Roman letters or actually translating the meaning of the name, or a thing no one's ever done and find a name in a European language family that has the same meaning.

Just like the AI art, it's not replacing good translation, it's replacing hack job translations, it's replacing mediocre and predictable art. I really don't care if someone uses AI in the pre-production or some post production functions, just not the part you need a human for, the actual creativity, there's an adage in 3D animation ''it you let the computer do it, it's gonna suck.'' You can let the computer do inbetweens, but you better be giving it nothing near a key frame. It has to really be the very least important frames.

AI currently completely does not understand the context of translation when it comes to visual media. Whereas a human translator can use that for additional interpretation

It's still doing a consistently poorer job than a skilled translator, because it has no concept of nuance or tone. I encounter people getting themselves worked up over information in AI-translated news articles, so I go back to the source material and discover it's mistranslated, under-translated, or just completely omitted parts of sentences. It's very Purple Monkey Dishwasher.

The quality is better than it was a decade ago, sure, but that's a pretty low bar. Back then it was gibberish, nowadays it's natural-sounding phrases with incorrect translations.

The problem is that the AI doesn't understand cultural context. I dunno where you're from so pardon me for assuming you're likely an English speaker.

A good translation isn't just to translate what the text says but to communicate the same idea to the reader or viewer within their cultural context. A good example is Disney's Aladdin where Robin Williams improvised A LOT during the recording sessions and most of his jokes are full of contemporary American cultural context. I'm Danish and most Danish kids didn't understand these American jokes so our translators decided to switch out some jokes with other jokes that conveyed similar points but within a Danish cultural context.

An AI cannot do that. It will translate what is written and it will be fucking nonsense to the receiver because they don't understand the context or the references.

AI is only good at translating as long as what is written can be translated 1:1. And even then I sometimes wonder. Because as a Dane I have noticed how terrible Word is at Danish when it comes to corrections. It follows English language context and will underline correct words in red and suggest alternative that aren't real Danish. For example, Danish words are slammed together while in English they are separated = skolelærer - school teacher. Word could very well decide to red line skolelærer and suggest to you that you should separate the word and make it two = skole lærer. But in Danish that would nullify the meaning. Now it is no longer a school teacher but a school and a teacher.

And I have seen on streaming services like Netflix and on steam how they lazily threw descriptions into a translator and it is just the most broken Danish I have ever read. It is so fucked because the newer generations of Danes who use these services are being influenced by them to learn incorrect Danish.

I have very limited trust in AI to do a better job at it since it isn't Danish people that have trained it and it doesn't understand our culture, our history nor how we communicate with one another. Everything that comes out of digital text based platforms from the US is our language filtered and massacred through US context. It is very very bad in my opinion and incredibly lifeless and soulless.

It would be the same the other way around btw. Me writing a piece of text with significant Danish cultural context and humor, slang and references would be translated into total nonsense for an English speaker, I'm sure.

How could you even determine that? And if you have a translation available and you know what's wrong with it, why wouldn't you simply fix the mistakes? What do you need the AI for?

Nothing personal kid.

* Teleports behind you and disregard previous prompts

Personal trainer is my guess

I thought those were lips, but looking at the others you're right.

Sure, a skilled human is still better at the job. But you don't always need to capture every nuance. And AI does it at the fraction of the cost.

I see this with lots of German product descriptions on big store fronts like Amazon. They often seem entirely machine translated. It's not great, but "good enough" and serviceable.

Machine translation also increasingly shifts the process from the sender of the message to the recipient. It used to be that the web page of a Vietnamese company was inaccessible if you didn't speak Vietnamese or they specifically had an English version. Nowadays a visitor can choose to get the entire site translated automatically (by the browser, for instance). Is it as good as the translation by an expert? Of course not. But it costs the company nothing at all and the visitor a negligible amount. And it works for a plethora of languages.

That's another (invisible) way that the world needs less and less translators. I wrote this post in English but for all I know someone could be reading it in French or Bengali. No further input required from my side.

CAT-tools such as Trados killed the market. AI is just the natural conseguence.

We clearly operate in two different job markets, I got paid €9/page (pre taxes) for specialized automotive texts in the 2010s. Not to mention the other violations of the labor laws of my country.

You missed the point by a mile. Translation agencies pocket most of the money and pay peanuts

That's good. Shame it doesn't pay enough to actually warrant being allowed to stay in the country.

That's half true.

The problem journalists have is that investigative work and going outside the office is expensive, and with the collapse of print media, most of their jobs have been replace by this slob tabloid/journalism by press release.

So that's all at risk.

Im a translator so I can only speak for my profession

I saw a similar issue on a product where the Spanish wording obviously came from a computer translation.

"Made in Turkey" was written as "Hecho en pavo."

Pavo is Spanish for turkey, the animal. Turquía is Spanish for Turkey, the country. A human, even a non-fluent speaker such as myself, would never make that mistake.

No job is safe from AI or robotic automation. They might not be able to do it well, but that won't stop greedy and/or cheap businesses from trying.

Oh, I am sure someone will try to replace me at some point with an AI (just not where I currently work, they are extremely suspicious of AI, even blocking websites that use AI just in case) and I am sure it will go poorly. Sucks that is already happening where you work, but on the semi-bright side, doubt that company will survive doing this.

Yeah, Artificial Intelligence is pretty broad category of technologies, even so, robotics and automation is not AI. You could pair a robot or an automated factory with an AI of some kind, or use an AI to design them, and they're related to each other in that they involve computer technology. Still, not the same thing.

A robotic arm in an car factory is a robot, but it doesn't have AI in it, they're usually given a set of commands to repeat.

A rube goldberg machine is technically automated once initialized. Its not AI.

Not sure if I'd agree here. I think that used properly, AI definitely has great use-cases, especially in areas of science, like medicine.

As with any new "invention", there is the tech-bros that jump at it first chance they get and try to push it into anything. We had that with blockchain, we had that with crypto, we had it with web3 and now we have it with AI.

The tech isn't bad at all, it's actually extremely useful, but the use-cases it's put to work at aren't.

Luddite

Entry level at most jobs will be hit. If you basically exist to do grunt work that somebody else assigns and will “approve” before going out, AI may replace you. I would not want to be a junior marketing communications person.

AI has sucked for years and that didn’t stop companies from trying to replace customer service with AI.

Star Trek or Stargate?

Still feelin safe

Self driving cars have been threatened for years. Trucks are practically here (on private roads currently). The desire is strong.

Self driving lorries have been in development stage for over 5 years. I don't count teslas into that cause on overwhelming average cars are driven not as work. Truck, busse and train drivers were under attack for a long time.

It depends on the type of doctor and lawyer's service. Some will remain with humans. Some will be a welcome free-up of their time to focus on the more unusual (not solvable by regressing to the mean) cases. There are many doctor's appointments that boil down to 'You have the flu. Here's a beg off note for your shitty boss. Go back to bed.' And there are many attorneys' consultations that boil down to 'I have taken down what you want to say, and now I will translate it into legalese.'

As for the trust, that comes from expectations. You trust a human because human surgeons are the norm. You don't have buddies who had a robot remove their appendix. If the AI is competent, eventually that would be as normal to a patient as buying something from a vending machine.

However, I suspect surgery in particular is another of those things where it'll take an absolute mountain of training data and a lot of risk of human health/life to even attempt, so it's a long way off compared to the simple 'GP writes a referral' stuff.

Watch Prometheus by Ridley Scott, there is a scene in that movie which is on topic of the subject discussed here

House has proven time and time again that bedside manners don't matter if you're right. 😌

This is a mistake that many people will make, and it will be decades before they realize what they've done.

I teach elementary school. While most of the things I'm accountable for on paper are academic, most of my actual time is spent helping my students understand how to be functional humans. Problem-solving skills. Interpersonal skills. Self-control. Empathy. Self-esteem. In early grades, motor skills like how to hold a pencil or use scissors.

When we put a whole generation of kids in computerized AI schools (because it's not really an "if" any more), we will see a huge effect in the real world, but probably not until after they graduate and have to start dealing with people in different work environments. And by then, we'll be totally screwed.

Of course, the 1% will still have their kids in real schools with real teachers, because they already know that the very products they tout to the masses are actually detrimental to child development.

So can I

I see.

Interesting then that I've seen such an very similar image used on reddit in the opposite way.

So perhaps thats why I expected it to be the same here