narrowed it down to 95% of a single planet!
JimVanDeventer 20 points a year ago
The peninsula is considered the north side. So the location of the shipwreck is south of South America.
Kraven_the_Hunter 2 points a year ago
You're looking at it from the South Pole, so there is no West, only North.
JimVanDeventer 2 points a year ago
then_three_more 12 points a year ago
It literally says beneath the Weddell sea.
anonymouse2 6 points a year ago
But where is the Weddell sea?
lvxferre 5 points a year ago
Yeah... probably "between Antarctica and the South Atlantic" would be the best reference here.
[Now it's probably not the time for me to ramble on how the Atlantic should be considered two oceans instead of one, right?]
ohulancutash 2 points a year ago
The location is being kept secret to prevent looting.
Kusimulkku 1 point a year ago
It is helpful in that it gives an idea of what sort of waters it sank at. Being close to Antarctica my mind immediately goes to heavy seas with cold weather.
wander1236 25 points a year ago
Yeah, the Weddell Sea is basically in Antarctica
captain_aggravated 11 points a year ago
Yeah even "near Antarctica" narrows it down to the South Atlantic, South Pacific and South Indian oceans.
FiskFisk33 8 points a year ago
if we suppose "just" means near in this context, "Just north of antarctica" and "Near antarctica" has exactly the same meaning.
captain_aggravated 3 points a year ago
It still narrows it down to about 1/8th of the Earth's surface area.
recently_Coco 2 points a year ago
Fun fact: I have never actually seen a clip of this with audio, so I always give this guy the Skeletor voice in my head and I just realized he probably doesn't sound like that.
monotremata 2 points a year ago
I looked it up. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XdWlWUUYejc
pomfegranate 34 points a year ago
We don't talk about what's South of Antarctica
sp3ctr4l 23 points a year ago
Mark here either has poor reading comprehension, or is intentionally being a little shit by cherry picking part of the title and not reading the whole thing.
The location specified is not 'north of Antarctica'.
It is, 'the Weddell Sea, north of Antarctica.'
Giving 'the Weddell Sea' as the location is actually decently specific, and the 'north of Antarctica' that follows is modifying / adding to the description of 'the Weddell Sea'... not the entirety of the location description.
I would snarkily, rhetorically, ask if people are even taught how to diagram out a sentence structure anymore, but I already know the answer is 'not really, no', because the average adult American literacy level is that of a 6th grader.
Mark, and anyone else who also finds this to be a funny, poignant zinger, need to go back to middle school and relearn grammar.
drosophila 17 points a year ago
It should probably say, "off the Antarctic coast", or even "X kilometers off the Antarctic coast".
SloganLessons 34 points a year ago
Or - bear with me here - it’s just a funny detail and people are laughing about it. Because any sea is obviously going to be north of it
KingPorkChop 1 point a year ago
I see you've bought into the globey lie of a round earth.
SloganLessons 5 points a year ago
Uh?
jj4211 32 points a year ago
It is still valid to point out that "north of Antartica" is a silly phrase in context, even though it's fine given the more specific Weddell Sea information. If you did want to help readers know the story based on a more well-known landmark, a less silly phrase would have been simply been "Weddell Sea, near Antarctica".
blackbrook 1 point a year ago
I'd go with "the Antarctic's Weddell Sea".
Tja 26 points a year ago
Nope. You could as well say: Mediterranean Sea, north of Antarctica.
I have two dollars, less than infinity.
The temperature is pleasant, higher than absolute zero.
Doesn't add anything. There are no seas south of Antarctica.
Nalivai -4 points a year ago
It adds something, it specifies the nearest location, if we assume the basic sanity of the sentence. Mediterranean Sea, north of Antarctica would be insane thing to say. Mediterranean Sea, north of Africa however is a proper signifier.
FelixCress 2 points a year ago
Is there any Mediterranean Sea south of Africa?
LotrOrc -18 points a year ago
The map he linked literally shows the Ross sea south of Antarctica.
Also since its earth is spherical and its near the south pole you can really go any direction and find a sea... that just becomes a matter of perspective.
In this case, specifically, the wedell sea is to the north of the continent
lennivelkant 11 points a year ago
Tthat's not south of Antarctica though. It's below, in terms of the map's perspective, but "absolute south" is the middle of the picture. Anywhere outside Antarctica is north of Antarctica.
Squorlple 3 points a year ago
The perspective of a map does not change how the cardinal directions relate to each other. You may be confused about how in slang, “south” may mean below and “north” may mean “above”, but that slang usage does not apply with geography where these terms are rigidly defined. The South Pole is categorically the southernmost point* — there is no location more south than the South Pole. The South Pole is located within Antarctica; ergo, there is no location more south than Antarctica.
*it’s beside the point to distinguish between the Magnetic South Pole and the True South Pole for this discussion but I figured I’d mention it
LotrOrc 1 point a year ago
Yes i get that
But we also live on an oblong sphere, which is 3 dimensional
The axes of north and south, east and west, are two dimensional
If you have a ship that can sail through anything, with infinite provisions, and you sail past the south pole, you will end up going north. That doesnt suddenly discount the fact that up until a certain point, you were going south. If the sea is immediately around the island, which it is, and is on the opposite side of the exact point of the axis, i wouldnt call that a misnomer.
When you are in that area you're essentially sailing south until you're sailing north. If we came at it from the other side it would likely be called something different.
bitchkat -4 points a year ago
No. There are parts of Antarctica that are north of the sea. That is, you can be in Alaska and travel south and hit the sea. It really depends on where the two points are.
SLVRDRGN 12 points a year ago
I would snarkily, rhetorically, ask if people are even taught how to diagram out a sentence structure anymore, but I already know the answer is ‘not really, no’, because the average adult American literacy level is that of a 6th grader.
I agree with your overall statement. Just wanted to point out that there are a lot more people than Americans out there.
rumba 8 points a year ago
Yup, by naming Wedell, they located it quite well; there are 13 small named seas completely encircling Antarctica. By naming any of them, you can reasonably locate (to any point that matters to dear reader) the wreck
Wolf 8 points a year ago
Sure, if you happen to already know where the Wedell Sea is or if you look it up it you can reasonably locate it, in which case adding the "north of Antarctica" part is superfluous. But if you don't already know where the Wedell Sea is, adding in the "north of Antarctica" part doesn't actually narrow it down any, which is why it's a funny thing to point out.
If they had wrote "just north of Antarctica" or "off the coast of Antarctica" or "near Antarctica", that would have narrowed it down significantly.
Now that I have thoroughly explained the joke, I imagine it's much funnier now.
I'm sure that "Mark "Three-Jabs" Newton" and the rest of us who found this funny were able to deduce from the context that is actually what the writer meant . That isn't what they actually wrote though so "sp3ctr4l" is not only incorrect in asserting that Mark has "poor reading comprehension", he is also wrong that 'reading the whole thing' would have clarified things and was extremely condescending about his incorrect statement at the same time, which makes him kind of an ass imo.
He was correct that Mark was "intentionally being a little shit" so 1 out of 3 wouldn't have been so bad if he weren't such a douche about it at the same time.
rumba 1 point a year ago
It's much funnier now
Nah, It was rather self-explanatory, I believe most of us read it is more of a pedantic thing than a joke. Sadly, explaining the pedantic thing at length reinforced that substantially. :)
frostysauce 7 points a year ago
You're not wrong, you're just insufferable.
_stranger_ 14 points a year ago
Nah, spectral IS wrong. The "complaint" isn't arguing grammar, it's explicitly pointing out that there's a very unhelpful couple of words in the sentence.
The sentence "I live north of Antarctica." gives you basically zero information but is perfectly grammatically correct.
The line may as well have been "The weddel sea, which is made of water,..."
andyspam 1 point a year ago
The Endurance has been found, 3000 metres beneath the Weddell Sea, [which is]north of Antarctica.
RedAggroBest 1 point a year ago
I'm wondering if you fail to realize that the entirety of the antarctic coast is "north of Antarctica" which makes the description a virtually useless modifier.
Nothing wrong with the grammar, just the logic.
JcbAzPx 0 points a year ago
It seems they forgot to mention it was on earth. They really should have indicated it was within the solar system too. No mention of being located in the Milky Way galaxy or the known universe either.
QuoVadisHomines 1 point a year ago
A 6th grader’s literacy level means they can write a book report.
Hobbes_Dent 22 points a year ago
Baby don’t hurt me.
Grandwolf319 19 points a year ago
Here I’ll help, it’s also south of the North Pole.
Stalinwolf 16 points a year ago
Was Ernest okay?
I_am_10_squirrels 4 points a year ago
A bit damp, but no complaints. Considering a new career distributing swords.
glowing_hans 16 points a year ago
I can construct a weird true statement from this: All continents besides Antarctica are located North of the South-Pole.
JargonWagon 6 points a year ago
That's a good one *takes notes
Poem_for_your_sprog -2 points a year ago
The earth is a bit lumpy, so chances are that was a lie and he was actually lost and couldn't figure out how to get everybody else out of the car so he could go on a trip to get milk.
NikkiDimes 2 points a year ago
*Directly above the gravitational center of mass of the Earth
Sheeeeesh, happy?
Poem_for_your_sprog 1 point a year ago
I should've put "ackshually" and /s
NikkiDimes 1 point a year ago
I guess I should have too, I was playing along with you :P
ILikeBoobies 2 points a year ago
Top left corner is the Weddell Sea so we know it’s somewhere in that direction
LordWiggle 11 points a year ago
I can specify: south of the arctic.
UnrepententProcrastinator 13 points a year ago
No moor
ryannathans 8 points a year ago
Might as well just write it's north of south
NigelFrobisher 6 points a year ago
Near the British Empire then.
A_Chilean_Cyborg 6 points a year ago
most probably between southamerica and antartica.
rockstarmode 5 points a year ago
asshat with a scuba tank
3000 meters beneath the Weddell Sea
Good luck
ILikeBoobies 5 points a year ago
From what I’ve read, billionaires need more private sub trips
squaresinger 4 points a year ago
Better north of antarctica than north of arctica.
TheOctonaut 4 points a year ago
Are kids today so Vine-brained they don't understand headline syntax? The Weddell Sea just north of Antarctica.
raltoid 16 points a year ago
For further clarification:
The Antarctic Peninsula(the long bit sticking out) is the furtest part away from the south pole in the antarctic and is thus the northernmost part, and is generally considered to be the "north" when using cardinal directions there. The Weddell Sea is off the coast of the peninsula.
meeeeetch 1 point a year ago
If you leave Antarctica, you're heading north. Is it North of Antarctica toward Australia, South Africa, Patagonia or some other northerly direction from Antarctica?
That's the ambiguity inherent to the headline.
TheOctonaut 2 points a year ago
Where else would you succinctly say the Weddell sea is?
MonkderVierte 1 point a year ago
Headline syntax sucks.
AnalogNotDigital 2 points a year ago
It's like a basic reading comprehension thing....
The ship is located in the Weddell Sea, which is north of Antarctica.
garlicandonions 2 points a year ago
I appreciate the "perhaps", like, the headline qualifies how annoyed they are at imprecision.
LovableSidekick 1 point a year ago
TBF it's also south of the Arctic Ocean.
ZombieMantis 1 point a year ago
I'll have to use that one.
SkunkWorkz -2 points a year ago
Of course they aren’t going to give the exact location. That wreck would be ransacked for scrap metal if it isn’t resting too deep. Like in Indonesia several WW2 shipwrecks have gone missing.
isolatedscotch 21 points a year ago
a fun fact about this, by the way
the reason we scavenge steel from old shipwrecks is because all modern peoduced steel is contaminated with a miniscule - but still present - amount of radioactive isotopes, incompatible with some incredibly precise scientific instruments and other nieche, but essential applications, that not only require old steel, but old steel that wasn't exposed to all the radioactive fallout during the nuclear tests in the cold war, hence why the sunken ships.
adding a personal note here, if some nuclear tests around the world contaminated everything THIS MUCH, what will we say about microplastics in a couple decades? just food for thought
_stranger_ 2 points a year ago
You can't see radiation filling up a bird's stomach. People are, ultimately, very bad about dealing with things we cannot see.
chiliedogg 14 points a year ago
3000 meters is pretty fucking deep.
Like - 6 times deeper than the deepest hardsuit dive in history.
There's only a few ships in the world that can salvage at that depth, and they're not fly-by-night pirate operations.
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